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Do NOT "ROTATE" your hips (Do this instead) 

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New trend in disc golf coaching is focusing on rotating the hips. Yes, the hips have to rotate, but rotating as a twisting motion is not a powerful move. Instead, shift your weight forward, keep you brace tight to move your front hip out of the way and let your back hip come around.
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@BodanzaDiscGolf
@BodanzaDiscGolf Год назад
This channel is a gold mine!
@smileyboy2700
@smileyboy2700 Год назад
English video, let's gooo!!! I see so many of your Finnish videos and I'm from Estonia myself so many words are confusing so I'm pretty much learning from body language :D
@RGMDG
@RGMDG Год назад
Love your videos. They have helped me tremendously. I still need to continue to practice, but the concepts are sound and I am getting closer to where I want to be. Thank you!!
@romanvigil6912
@romanvigil6912 Год назад
Greatly appreciate this, I know I am one who tried all of the above techniques but just stopping the momentum on the front foot and allowing the body to work itself out. Great work, thank you and take care;)
@YorikMayer
@YorikMayer Год назад
Thank you for your videos! You are most definitely one of the best teacher out there on the internet. Thanks to guys like you I've been able to progress from playing first time ever and throwing 10-15 m max to throwing 55-70m more or less accurately and more or less consistently in less 2 months. Surely not only thanks to you.. I had to dig a lot through the internet and found a couple of guys teaching disc golf the way that seams understandable, logical and most importantly - the way that works and brings me progress. But surely you are one of them. Please continue, maybe it is you who will become this first youtube disc golf teacher who can accumulate and give ALL the necessary information for guys like me to earn to play good. Good luck! Become that "subscribe-to-win" disc golf coach!
@Flakzor123
@Flakzor123 Год назад
Short and to the point! I am actually one of the guys that like to deliberately turn my back leg inward but just like you say deliberate rotation of the back leg by itself does nothing. For me it still serves a practical purpose on control throws by preventing the glute and hamstring from being misdirected off to the side. The reason I find it useful is that I typically initiate approaches with the back leg driving against a preset brace kind of "low-budget" mimicking the recoil an actual weightshift would provide which kind of lets me work around my temperamental right hip (some days it's a bit unstable which throws off my game, those days I can't even putt normally). On the good days when my hip isn't sabotaging my weightshift the back leg isn't really doing anything deliberate at all but I still like that the foot is closer to forward than backward so I can hook the posterior chains (leg+low back) together easier to make use of the leg as a counterweight for posturecontrol.
Год назад
Great video! Any chance of a video about the throwing arm, and what to do with it consciously, and what "just happens" if you let it whip?
@dgspindoctor
@dgspindoctor Год назад
Yea, I can. Thanks!
@Js-rq9uj
@Js-rq9uj Год назад
Thank you! I've been struggling with a knee injury and I think I injured it doing exactly what you said not to, pushing off the back knee and trying to twist myself with it and what's worse is the constant slipping. I've been practicing planting my foot more to prevent wipeouts, but hadn't considered going for more power that way. I'll definitely be working with this!
@DrDarkdog
@DrDarkdog Год назад
Love this, thanks for that Great video👍
@daven.5615
@daven.5615 Год назад
Please wear a cowboy hat and belt buckle for your next video. That last throw sounded like you were herding cattle with a bullwhip. Amazing. Thank you for the English video!
@lobsterknight4165
@lobsterknight4165 Год назад
This sounds great! My new mindset for sure.
@calebdyer6332
@calebdyer6332 Год назад
I’m curious how long you’ve been coaching. Have you coached other sports? Your ideas seem to be really good! I’m curious where you find the things to teach.
@dgspindoctor
@dgspindoctor Год назад
Playing since 2000, practically coached ever since, but professionally only for a few years. But I try to study baseball and golf, and fitness stuff also.
@axis_8
@axis_8 Год назад
This made "rotation" so much more understandable! Greetings from a newbie!
@NickCarroll
@NickCarroll Год назад
Great video! I'm subbing to your channel now. I believe the back leg will rotate naturally as a consequence of your hips also naturally rotating - but as you say it's not something you force, it occurs as a matter of course as you're moving forward towards the target.
@SamuelB-
@SamuelB- Год назад
Hyvä video Jaani, onko jatkossa enemmän lontookielistä contenttia tiedossa?
@discgolfamateur2175
@discgolfamateur2175 Год назад
And this ladies, is where I struggle big time! Especially when trying to throw far, it is unbelievable hard to start the throwing motion first and only when right foot is fully planted. I feel it is even harder than nose angles! And not sure, correct me if totayy wrong, but I suspect that getting the foot fully planted before throwing also gets your timing correct for rest of the sequence? Edit: and I think it is not only me, I have also seen pro players struggle a bit with this, starting the throw before fully planted.
@mattbroughton750
@mattbroughton750 Год назад
He starts his throwing motion at the begging of his X step.
@discgolfamateur2175
@discgolfamateur2175 Год назад
@@mattbroughton750 I'd say it is important to apply power first when you have fully planted right foot. Try to throw a punch with your left arm while right foot in the air - absolutely no power there when compared to right foot planted and possible to rotate lower body for "momentum".
@zyntax81
@zyntax81 Год назад
I didn't know Joe Lindner played disc golf :)
@calebdyer6332
@calebdyer6332 Год назад
weight shift drives rotation, rotation pulls the arm
@bcp5296d
@bcp5296d Год назад
how does weight shift without any twisting drive rotation? Ask any pro, rotation starts with the feet. The only way to push 500+ feet of distance is through footwork, not just straight feet moving up the teepad.
@dgspindoctor
@dgspindoctor Год назад
Something I never said...
@bcp5296d
@bcp5296d Год назад
@@dgspindoctor The title is do not rotate your hips. Which is bad advice. If it were good advice, there would be no need for an x step. Maybe the title was meant to just be clickbait, but if so, you have to expect this kind of feedback in the comments.
@dgspindoctor
@dgspindoctor Год назад
Your hips rotate without you specifically rotating them. Like in ALL sports. And no, I expect intelligence from disc golf community, so this kinda surprised me.
@adell6121
@adell6121 3 месяца назад
hip to shoulder seperation?
@dgspindoctor
@dgspindoctor 3 месяца назад
If you want to call it that, cool! The hips do rotate, but rotating them is not good. Pressure shifting is good.
@kappadg1355
@kappadg1355 Год назад
I dont think weight shift is back and forward its up and down. I do agree that rotation doesn't give us any power.We should twist our body not rotate.
@bcp5296d
@bcp5296d Год назад
I agree with rotation as a result of twisting. You have to rotate on your follow through unless you're trying to get injured. But I disagree that the back foot shouldn't add to the twist (and eventual rotation). It is the start of hip preparation and rotation (twist leading to rotation) for every pro.
@dgspindoctor
@dgspindoctor Год назад
It's fun that after all these years of sports science and studies, Disc Golf is the one sport that endorses the infamous Squish the bug. I don't care how you throw, but this is what I teach.
@HuckingPlastic
@HuckingPlastic Год назад
This is good but you already know how to throw. Take someone with bad form, ask him to do this and he will probably still have bad form.
@jimmyblundell7600
@jimmyblundell7600 Год назад
I mean, no one is fixing their form in a day.
@hairystyles333
@hairystyles333 Год назад
There are 20+ mechanical movements you need to focus on in order to have good form. This is just one. Chill
@Mellowyellow8888
@Mellowyellow8888 Год назад
alot of this rotational movement ideology can be looked at from other sports.. golf is one of them, baseball swinging the bat is the same.
@karl6458
@karl6458 Год назад
How much the Doctor can throw on a flat ground? :D just for fun. you seem to have quite powerful legs
@dgspindoctor
@dgspindoctor Год назад
Anything between 500ft-550ft.
@coryeklund7627
@coryeklund7627 Год назад
Reddit sent me here lol
@tonykaze
@tonykaze Год назад
Interesting seeing someone, point by point, explain that everything Paul McBeth, Simon, Drew, Eagle, and James teach and use is wrong.
@dgspindoctor
@dgspindoctor Год назад
You don't believe in weight shift?
@leksa5318
@leksa5318 Год назад
Ois kiva jos laittasit suomen teksit ni vois ymmärtää vinkkejä
@Pillunaamaripulireika
@Pillunaamaripulireika Год назад
Samasta asiasta on jo monta videoo suomeks...
@leksa5318
@leksa5318 Год назад
@@Pillunaamaripulireika aa
@Schwick-wc7uo
@Schwick-wc7uo Год назад
I disagree based on mechanical models and parallel sport examples; racquet sports, golf swing, baseball hitting, Olympic Hammer throw. Rotational transmitted energy movements. "Torsion". Most video coaches teach the current form that pros use. Where are coaches teaching new methods, out of the box stuff? Too bad rotation can't be harnessed, instead we all want to be James Conrad, but he has incredible rotation after his post-up. It's just so fast and we watch his arm and the disc flight. Watch his footwork, core, shoulders, elbow. Block out everything before and after. Repeat...
@devon3800
@devon3800 Год назад
You're absolutely correct. Hip/shoulder separation timing is the key to rotational velocity. Hence why small athletes can throw super hard/far and some big athletes do not.
@dgspindoctor
@dgspindoctor Год назад
Yes. It's just not done by "rotating" like I say. It's done by weight shifting or pressure shifting, which set the rotation in high speed and accelerates the hips, unlike "rotating".
@bcp5296d
@bcp5296d Год назад
@@dgspindoctor I think those who disagree with this video, myself included, are doing so because you might not be explaining this right in English. In your last sentence, you used the word rotate twice and assigned different meanings for both.....the user above that used "twist first, and rotate on follow through, was probably more accurate. Maybe the word you're looking for is twist?
@fullyawakened
@fullyawakened Год назад
But you CAN (and most do) consciously turn and drive their leg forward. It definitely does add a lot to your throw, same with your opposite shoulder drive it inwards while simultaneously pulling through with your other arm. You're just advising people to throw sloppily
@bcp5296d
@bcp5296d Год назад
I disagree but interesting video.
@jacobr4558
@jacobr4558 Год назад
Should have picked a windier day to film. Super distracting. Message seems good but I was very much side tracked.
@dgspindoctor
@dgspindoctor Год назад
Sorry about that.
@dgpower4543
@dgpower4543 Год назад
I want to begin by asking you for references in scientific studies or other data that backs up what you are telling people in this video. This is just too far out there. Can you please provide me with this?
@bcp5296d
@bcp5296d Год назад
He means that you shouldn't try to only rotate, you should get a weight shift going as well, a good tip for beginners. But it kinda sounds like he thinks rotating isn't helpful, which obviously isn't true. As long as you get the weigh shift, you definitely want to create twist from your feet up through your hips, and rotate on your follow through to ease the tension of the twist. Without twist and rotation, weight shift is useless. It just accelerates the twist and rotation.
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