This video is posted on my channel to lose their original post clicks because they made this stupid propaganda thing to beat the Vice documentary in views. It is also here specifically so members of the Facebook group “Defectors Support” can see it here without having to go to LLR’s channel. I am 100% against LLR and felt comfortable posting this here because of how easy it is to see through their lies. Almost everybody in the video giving “testimonials” are either the Brady-Stidham family members or are mentors in the company. The exception is the last woman they examine who has been in LLR for about a year and a half now. I posted a video explaining who every single person presented in the video is and their relationship to the family in an effort to further prove how full of shit and harmful this company is.
Yes, thank you so much for creating/uploading this. It shows why lawyers are reluctant to let witnesses take the stand! 90% of people can see how disingenuous this clan is.
I think it’s because mormon women are afraid of being shamed for working outside the home. Nothing wrong with working from home, I just wish there were better options then these predatory MLMs.
Naw, Tammy Faye actually had a heart. She hugged AIDS patients as she knew they were no different from anyone else. While I don’t admire evangelicals, I do admire her attitude.
Similar style and mannerisms, yes. However, Tammy Faye had a lot more heart. She got caught up with a bad crowd and made some terrible mistakes, but nevertheless dared to preach compassion for marginalized people like the LGBTQ+ community throughout her life. She was a vocal advocate for AIDS sufferers at a time when everyone around her was treating them like lepers and pariahs. That takes conviction and courage. Deanne, on the other hand, has shown that she cares far more about money than morals... like when she and Mark sided with that unfunny consultant over people with Down Syndrome.
Sooo they took advantage of a guy underselling himself at a swap meet, stole his idea, and then came up with an even worse get rich quick scheme. Nice.
Like Hell did she say, "oh, let me just have a couple of dresses" and he responded with "no, no, I insist you keep ALL the profits and keep doing these parties without me!" She's a monster.
She comes to any market in the north of England she’ll find stalls selling cheap clothes they’ve bought in from Bangladesh for pennies and sell for a tenner or less. What they did after that was the BIG con, the fact that it was ugly clothes was a side issue, the product could have been magic beans
Shitty patterns are a huge part of their business plan. Reps send them back so LLR can claim they donated them & they just keep reselling them over and over. And if you've only sold 50% of your stock you'll be manipulated into buying more.
Generally clothes sold in that manner aren't marked up as much as they are in a store. There's often more sizes and interesting colors/patterns available as well. Also, this was before online shopping was commonplace. It sounds like LLR started out with decent a business structure and products, but then they got greedy and turned it into a pyramid scheme.
It’s that weird comraderie thing of feeling like you’re in a club.... that’s why they SPECIFICALLY went after young mothers who probably don’t feel they have much identity outside of their kids and were craving to have something just for themselves. But as for why people go to the parties, two reasons, if you’re not an adult yet you’ll see but you kinda are made to feel like you have to go when people throw those parties. Like it’s cheap not to or something. And once you’re there, you’re like obligated to buy something. First of all. Second of all, as I said, these parties set up this weird club mentality and also a “everybody’s doing it” peer pressure type mentality. If everyone is saying something is nice and the leggings aee life changing, you can be the smartest person alive and you’d at least be curious you know? Then you get there and everyone’s acting like it’s rare or something lol (which it was probably since they only send the people like two sizes of the nice things and they’re like XXS and 4X lol). It’s all psychological manipulation. From start to finish. Hell, look at this video, from the music to the sappy stories to the crying.... it’s pure manipulative propaganda. Even if some of it is true.... it’s total bullshit. But it’s the same reason people who barely have money to eat still play lotto every week. When enough people act like there’s a chance they’ll win, when they see winners on TV, it makes you go “maybe I’ll win”. But then take something people rarely talk about, but that you actually can easily make (at least a small amount) of money on, almost guaranteed, with the tiniest bit of research, or simply putting it into the S&P 500 (in short those are the big companies that are pretty much guaranteed to go up so if you put money into the s&p500, maybe you won’t make tons (probably not since it’s a guaranteed “win” like when you bet on horses, you get less money if he’s a shoe-in to win) but you’re all but guaranteed to at least make a little, or at the VERY least not lose any bc if it does happen to go down a tiny bit, just wait til the next year.... it’s guaranteed money...... yet if most people win money or get a big bonus at work, or something like that, and you say “you should put half into the stock market” they’ll say something like “too risky”.... because there aren’t people clamoring at the bit to get into the stock market, talking about “hey did you hear it’s worth this much now?” (Like w lotto jackpot) and you only hear about the big business men type of success stories... so people feel disconnected from it even though it’s literally a BILLION times more likely to get you profit for doing nothing than the lotto ever would be.... weird example but you see what I mean.
@@Juwlz read the original comment.. the poster asked why someone would go to a party for Girls Dresses OR maxi dresses... I was addressing the reason for going to parties for girl dresses
I remember working at the warehouse for Lula Roe 3 years ago for $13/hr. I got fired because I didn’t check the right size in the bins that were going out for shipping. It wasn’t until I stopped working there that I questioned who buys these and wheres the actual store ?? Before Covid and online stores where big..
Camila Nieto I feel like LuLuRoe is laughing at all these people thinking “omg they are actually wearing them”!!! Like it’s an ongoing joke which designer can make the ugliest clothing
What they're not saying really screams out loud - there's no mention whatsoever about what on Earth is behind the bizarrely high demand for a) maxi skirts and b) leggings. It's an anomaly that's just ignores. MAYBE you could understand little girls' dresses because kids grow fast and their clothes need replacing, but seriously, how many maxi skirts and leggings are people going to get through? Even seen in its best light Lularoe doesn't add up.
Has anyone ever come forward as one of the original attendees of this dress party? As she says there was no parking for blocks so somebody has got to be around that attended this party and can corroborate that story..
Their own income disclosure tells you everything you need to know before signing up, It amazes me that these two scammers are "god fearing" people, I'd hate to see what they'd be up to if they weren't.
Because it’s totally fake man! It’s all her husband I guarantee it he seems so scammy lol she probably just sat back and drank margaritas all day ha ha
Anyone else find it weird that they were originally selling for $10 but then when it became big they were selling for $30-$50 for crap material and gross patterns? The solid colors always had some sort of defect in the material causing spots or darkened lines. The mismatched clothes thing was so weird. Oh, and I’m a size 0 and nothing ever fit me. It all looked like I was a kid drowning in their clothes. But the kids clothes choked me at the neck. I paid $30 for a top for my daughter and it’s so seethrough that she has to wear camisoles under it. The start up cost just to apply to sell was a hug “no thanks” for me.
I've heard her say very different versions of their "origin" story, like her making the skirt for her daughter wasn't that it went on Instagram, it was that girls in her high school wanted them. I wonder why she tells so many different versions? Could it be to scam people? Oh no, that can't be it! 🤣
I wouldn’t trust any business model that A. Asks me to invest in a whole lot of inventory to start up. B. Ask me to recruit friends and family. C. Has Titles at different sales levels even though you’re not an employee with no health benefits. D. Has no scalable strategy that prevents saturating the resell market. Long story short, these people (Diane and her husband) have zero experience running a franchise if that’s how they are spinning this as oppose to a pyramid scheme. So whether you believe it’s a pyramid scheme or an MLM the point is if I asked how many retailers there are and the number was over 50 and growing then you aren’t going to be able to sustain a living doing this because there are too many sellers. Doesn’t matter that there are lots of different fabrics and they only make 2000 of each fabric type. The point is there are only so many people in the world who will need tacky leggings and skirts. Also when you have so much surplus product on the market it’s like the Fed printing too much money….it loses value big time.
OMG. Her story about the $10 dresses is so fake. 😂 And can you imagine the quality of a $10 dress? This woman is such a quack. And all these lemmings fell right into her hands.
DoxyLady on the website it says, or used to say that she made 20 thousand maxi skirts in 6 months by herself. it takes about 2-3 hours for a good one, but let's say she was really efficient and it only took her one. there's 183 days in 6 months, which 4,392 hours. she would have to make 5 skirts an hour to meet that quota and i didn't even account for eating, sleeping etc.
It was a cute business, they helped ppl and whatnot, but they grew too big and adopted pyramid schemey tactics - intentionally or not - and ruined their business and legacy. For themselves and the ppl they dragged into this mess.
plasticdevil3 I don’t think they helped anyone. This bitch knew from the jump that getting people to take over and do the work for her would make her rich. These people are evil.
Stopped at several yard sales looking for craft supplies and everyone of them had totes full of these leggings and dresses that were so hideous they couldn’t get rid of them for as little as $3 a piece! 😬
I was curious and watched a recent video of a seller and she said if you think a pattern is ugly just wear it under your jeans or dress so you don't get cold and nobody will see the leggings. She corrected herself by saying there's no ugly prints like a robot.
Podcast: The Dream. About LulaRoe and YoungLivingOils and 31 and LipSense and all the women who invested in them and lost their money. It’s free, go listen to it.
It started out wonderfully but just grew too big. The one major flaw is not being able to pick what you want to sell. Those ugly prints did them in, plus their quality went to hell.
Lovin'Life2016 It’s a pyramid scheme, and one of the worst ones out there. There’s nothing good about them or any MLM ever. Please run from them as fast as you can. Lol.
Plus u also gotta realize they put so much pressure on the designers every day so it’s no wonder why the prints were so ugly or copywrited and stolen. If luluroe wasn’t so greedy in money they should have made the time to Make the company grow at a slower pace but still stick to the quality !
Right? What person with a brain thinks ‘oh, this random from the swap meet just told you to keep all the profits from the tons of dresses you just sold for him? Sounds legit.’ 🤦🏻♀️ Pay attention people.
Astrid Adele The husband, Mark, used to pick out the fabrics. Considering he has no high school or above education and became the CEO of LLR after having a failed contracting business that had something to do with cement, I have no idea WHY anyone would have him choosing prints.
@@SerenitySprings08 I'm not fan of this scam, and I've seen lots of people screwed from it, but whether you have an HS diploma has squat to do with having good taste in fabric. You either have good taste or you don't. They don't teach that in HS. I found this statement really offensive, bordering ignorant and I graduated HS.
"There were hundred and hundreds of people waiting" + "I cleared out my whole living room because I knew she was going to bring SO much stuff." = We sold like 80 items. WTF?
that cute little story about the little girl dresses was such bs, you haven't been able to get people to come to a selling party for about 40 years now, cause we got completely burnt out on them knowing that when you went you would be expected to buy something.
Could they have done this without being predatory, with quality materials and still be successful and make their consultants successful? It would be nice to not oversaturate the market by limiting vendors by zip code and allow the sales ppl to have a choice on what they order. I never understood why you wouldn’t identify “unicorns” and make more? I actually like wacky prints and would support local women in my community by giving them my business. It would be a nice excuse to get together with neighborhood ladies, have fun and shop without feeling pressured.
There's more money for them in an MLM structure, because the "consultant" is the customer, and unlike a real customer where you can only market to them, they told the consultants they had to keep buying and buying because "that's how you sell!" They could turn on the pressure from the uplines to their downlines making sure they were constantly buying more product, regardless of the quality or the resale prospects. All MLMs do this. The "sellers" are the real customer, not just for the products but for the catalogs, the websites, the business cards, samples, auto-shipments, etc. And the fees. If they don't buy enough, you take away their "seller" status from them.
I heard that as "when this falls apart and we're facing criminal prosecution, we're just going to drink that koolaid we've been saving for just this purpose!"
I want to know if the wet leggings issue was ever disclosed....how did product get shipped wet? Interesting that one retailer said it was "one" package and not the whole box....how does that happen? Did anyone ever answer or address that?
I watched another video where they interviewed a girl who worked at their warehouse and she said they would get in SO MUCH inventory that there was no where to put it so dozens and dozens of pallets of clothes in plastic bags would sit outside in the weather. I’d imagine that’s how they got wet and moldy and smelly… sitting in wet plastic bags then baking in the sun 🤮🫣
8:18 Oh, the spontaneity " - ... we started a conversation about don´t you think there's probably other women that would want the same opportunity you had to earn extra money while still having the freedom around their schedule to be a stay at home mom or take care of their kids?" Big product-honest companies never start with that idea in mind, and specially, they never start with the idea to appeal to only one gender of workers or representatives.
I ended up buying a couple of things from someone who got out of LuLaRoe (like literally the last few things she had) And she told me three dresses for a dollar and I only really liked one that others are kind of just like these awful ugly material so I posted one of them online on Mercury to sell and I could literally only sell it for like $2 nobody would buy it for anything else which is fair lol but man I was like Lord how do people sell these crap designs for full price with a straight face I will never understand lol
No wonder they have all the early joiners talking on here. The very essence of a pyramid scheme is that those at the top of the pyramid are the ones who make all the money
LuLaRoe is a scam but this video is really shittily made. It seems way more like an ad for LuLaRoe. If you want to make commentary about the company, you have to make the freaking commentary.
Don't worry, whoever came to Holly Smith's channel knows entirely well what this is about, and as anti MLMers, we're all watching this video in full cinicism mode.
Does she really expect us to believe the market guy brought enough stock to her house to sell 300 dresses? He would have taken 50 max, expecting maybe a dozen turning up . She's a liar .
Ok men crying doesn't bother me but COME ON!!!! Deanne looks like she could literally run over the family dog and not even blink and these guys are crying over the DUMBEST stuff...also the...."any family or retailer can be absorbed in the blessings" except Sam, Mark's 4 daughters who he abandoned for Deanne, Jeanne (Deanne's other daughter) and anyone who questions them or doesn't wanna join their little pill party.
I’m in the UK, so it’s possibly different here…but I had no idea maxi skirts were such a Thing! 😂 Who is wearing them?! I just think about Sunday school teachers and, ironically, women in super intense Christian cults when I think of maxi skirts. Also, leggings as pants? Leggings aren’t pants.
I don't get it. The clothes are hideous, the quality seems awful, the prices are way too high for what they are🤮🤦🏻♀️ and all these people here look like psychos trying to join me into a cult 🤨
This business model relies on the "retailers" aka "consultants" or sales people to buy their own inventory. What these sales people don't realize is that aren't business owners. They are the customers. All these videos show the sales people with tons of left over inventory that they can't sell. They became the consumer, not the seller.
Their clothes are awful! Even a blind person wouldn’t dare touch them! Something that costs them maybe $5 or less to make and they sell it for $50 no thanks! And their startup is $5,000 like what’s wrong with people?! Who invests $5,000 on their credit card in someone else’s business 🤦🏻♀️
Smoke and Mirrors. "Smoke and mirrors is a classic technique in magical illusions that makes an entity appear to hover in empty space" from Wikipedia. No more smoking mirrors for you! :-) (I'm paying this forward)
MILY BLANCH lol yeah I’m surprised bc I’m 37 years old and I even remember being to one back when I was a child with my parents and so that right their tells me that she must have been grown up and lived in the high class status !
@@whititah Don't forget that, as she stated, she had one kid on the hip, two kids by the stroller, one by the hand... for a second I thought she was gonna say she was barefoot, but leave those details to the motivational speakers :)
I can almost guarantee you (allegedly) that the one person who joined a year ago, is doing something shady. She may be filtering drug money thru the business, she may have a buddy who filed an illegal insurance claim, and I can think of a couple of other schemes which I won't plant in anyone's mind, but things aren't adding up.
So I seen that guy Mark's shirt, how the inside of his cuffs had a "LuLaRoish" design....Ive seen those same shirts on Steve Wilkos...lord I hope his wife/mom doenst sell this garbage!!!
“Knowing now what that did for our family”…….. what a pyramid scheme did for your family?!??!! 🤣🤣 ohhhhh this is GREAT 🤣🤣🤦♀️ bet sissy boy is crying real tears now
Amanda Gard Makeup I posted this here so LuLaRoe wouldn’t get the clicks for it. The main purpose was so the members of the Defective Facebook group could watch it without having to go to LLR’s RU-vid. There’s another video on my channel that shows who every single person in this video is so they can see that the only people willing to vouch for LLR are either related to the founders, Mark & Deanne Stidham, OR they are the first few retailers to join so make hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars in bonus checks. No one who actually lived through the real horror of LLR would ever speak highly of this company.
I'm no fan of Lularoe, but how is this video supposed to make me NOT want to sign up when it shows pro-lularoe media and doesn't mention the lies until close to the end of the video???
I came to this video because I started binging on anti-MLM videos. So, everything that's depicted in this video I perceive as phony and cynical, precisely because I know it's a pyramid scheme and how it works - The founders themselves are never clear about how it works, either. So, mission acomplished by Holly Smith.
First of all, who takes 2 small children while heavily pregnant to an early morning swap meet by themselves? I've always found that story to be absolute BS. If im wrong, im wrong; but I really don't think I am.
