4:45 to be fair, a skaven would feel rumbles of construction and think either A: the engineers are working on something new, or B: they murdered the maintenance rat and the platforms about to give.
Also, while we're talking about Skaven, they don't necessarily build cities under other cities, like they did in the Old World. They have one HUGE city situated in its own pocket dimension, that's somewhere between the Realms at large and the Realms of Chaos. They just gnaw holes into reality to get where they need to go from there. At best, the Skaven might burrow a tunnel to a mortal city, only to dig right into an Ossiarch vault. If the Bonereapers chilling there didn't think the Skaven were a problem, they'd probably just let them go without even moving. And in that situation, the Skaven would think "creepy-spooky tomb" and keep digging. If the Ossiarchs _did_ see the Skaven as a threat, the Skaven back home would find that part of the tunnel network collapsed and never hear from the tunnelers again. Simple as. (Frankly, "the tunnelers disappeared forever after a tunnel collapsed" sort of explains itself, and is likely a constant occurrence for Skaven that doesn't necessitate thinking about for longer than 5 seconds).
@@pancreasnowork9939 also remember that when you're building a city deep below an enemies city, would you expect someone else to build a city below your city?
To add to the lore chain, with the recent Ghur & Freeguild tomes it’s noted the Realms are crisscrossed with countless tunnel systems running everywhere due to the realmscapes shifting or innumerable giant creatures burrowing(which is why the Skaven don’t have a monopoly down there) It’s to a point that a growing number of Dawnbringer Crusades are just going underground to move farther faster or even set up entire free cities in tunnels. A recent one was a city under Hammerhal Aqshy that used to the heat from the magma vents to mass produce glass works they shipped to the top cities. A main commodity being glass bottles the cities store Aqua Ghyranis in to pay the crusaders.
I always compared the Bonereapers to a strange mixture of the Roman Legions and the Mafia: they’re conquering the realms and extorting the people for “protection.”
>They're like the Tomb Kings except not Egyptian. "Intriguing, tell me mo-" >They're also the IRS "I DONT CARE *_WHO_* THE IRS SENDS, I'M *_NOT_* PAYING TAXES!"
Okay, I HAD a comment to make. Echoing Heywoah's fantastic analysis, "You are not here for clever battle tricks or schemes. You are here to march slowly forward and cordially invite your enemy to care about objectives or go extinct." But I saw @24:55 and I've been laughing so hard I had to go back and doublecheck that quote.
Well I never thought I would actually finding a faction so cool that I would genuinely consider getting into the tabletop. But here we are, the Bone Reapers are so cool I am considering learning AoS gameplay and pricing some starter kits
I would check out the Christmas battle force which is still available online. It's insane value with buying one and a vanguard gets you to 2000 points for 300$ which in Warhammer terms is very cheap
The Christmas Battleforce box is genuinely phenomenal. You get your reliable core (Mortek Guard), 2 fast hammers (Morghasts), two support pieces that can dish out the pain (Gothizzar Harvester/Liege-Kavalos), and an objective thief with a good battle tactic (Kavalos Deathriders).
OK, I absolutely love the idea of the bone tithe. It's evocative and sinister and makes sense for a faction of skeleton warriors, but it's also extremely goofy in that special Warhammer way. Nagash crafted the ultimate undead soldiers, but they're still spooky scary skeletons who are here for the bone tax and won't take no for an answer.
Oh yeah. Meanwhile, there's an argument over whether the Kharadron Overlords are AOS Leagues of Votann or if the Leagues were ripped off of the Overlords.
@@discountplaguedoctor88no there's not, the khadron predate the leagues by quite a few years, and there desighn ideas are completely different beyond being short, the leagues barely have any dwarf to them
As a Necrons player and DND Necromancy advocate, the Bone Collectors are second only to Skaven in my heart. Also, the Immortis Guard are some of the coolest models I've ever seen, and I NEED to either own them or be them.
Love the Ossiarchs, my main faction in AoS, and I eagerly awaited your vid. Played a game recently, and had 5 Kavalos Deathriders hold a Great Unclean One at bay for 3 rounds. So good
Oh this would absolutely be the army I’d collect, but I’m currently not making money right now. In fact, I need to be focused on not spending any more money till I get a job.
Why no from butchers?? Also, heard from an engineer that depending on ground conditions, a person 4-5 times the diameter of a tunnel above it won't feel any vibrations at ground level and certainly won't pose a threat to buildings with slab foundations. Pile foundations are a little different but I would imagine the 4 to 5 times diameter rule is likely to still hold true.
In a way they are like the living embodiment of the concept of the tax collector. Utterly emotionless and will stop at nothing claim what they feel is owed. Now whether the payor agrees with payee’s terms is another story lol
this was so good, made whant to play them and the lore was great, I was wondering if you have a video like this but for Daughters of khaine. cheers and awesome content.
Even though they're not my faction, learning about these guys is great for adding lore to my own dudes. My (as you say) "good-ish" vampire lord now has a reason for her scared peasants to stick by her besides fear! What better way to make people feel like they owe you one than by rolling up on bone reaping day with a horde of skeletons and using them to pay off the ransom? "Sure thing humans! I'll save you from having your bones harvested by sacrificing some of my army. You're gonna pay it back in blood later, but hey! You'll be alive to do it!"
"Stop watching the video and start collecting." I just checked my bank account and my credit score and that's going to be a no from me, good buddy. (Seriously though, you Do or Don't really make me interested in giving tabletop gaming a try.)
I have a theory. Hear me out. The reason all the bonereapers returned to shyish on awakening is because Nagash noticed all of the stormcast had frowny face helmets, so he changed all the Ossiarch faces to smiles just to troll him.
The one thing I can’t get over with the bonereapers is well- all the bones. I definitely feel like this faction has crossed the hyper focused on one particular thing event horizon. An analogy to clarify, it’s kinda like that guy that collects anime models of all of his favorite characters a little too much compared to ‘*That* funko pop guy’ basically levels of excess that would have Slaanesh telling you maybe it’s time to reevaluate things. Sure skeletons is one thing I can get behind, but skeletons wearing skeleton armor all shoulder to shoulder to an entire army comprised solely of more skeletons wearing more skeletons feels like something I’ll never be able to get over.
the boooooooone tax the boooooooone tax you gotta pay the bone tax everytime you're dyin' when the bones get buried these skellies come a-lookin' the rules is the rules and the facts is the facts and when the bodies start droppin you gotta pay the tax the booooooone tax the booooooone tax the boooooooooooooooooooone taaaaaaaaax (oooohhh yeeeaaaahhh)
Their idea is really cool, the mini design is just a bit lacking IMO. It’s hard to say what’s not appealing to me but I guess it’s just that the models are a bit too generic skeleton man rather than sculpted elite bone warriors.
Nagash kept the Skaven out by putting a sign up that said: "Skaven welcome" because he figures the one time the Skaven won't show up is when he invites them.
Fun OBR facts: -The Higher ups of the OBR enjoy tabletop games especially their chess version Kingsgame (the chess piece are made of children finger bones ). The warriors cast enjoy setting up & participate in Jousting tourney and sporting tournament in their mortal vassal kingdom to scout out future OBR bones and souls -Arkhan leads the Null Myriad a small legion who bones are made up of a complex blend of nullstone (Anti-magic) & necromancy making them the perfect black-op legion to deal with demon incursions and other magic base enemies -The Pretirfiex Elites are a legion that made out of fossilized bones giving them nigh-invincibility and would construct colossal constructs station them across the land camouflage as mere ancient statues until the need to reactive and catch their enemies in an ambush -Crematorians are a legion of flaming OBR cursed by Nagash to blow up once their Balefire goes off making them suicide bombers which Creamatorian are scared shitless attempting always to figure out how to remove said curse. Due to this they "attempt" (doesn't work out always) to the least destructive OBR legion when conquering entire cities to plunder libraries and vault to find a cure. -Like all AOS factions the OBR take various influences from their Roman empire inspired thite system, Japanese samurai armor and philosophy code & their Assyrian brutality such as the display of decapitated heads or flayed skins of rebellious vassals and enemies leaders. The Lumineth needing to burn their dead something that is sacrilegious to the elves is also a Assyrian reference to their atrocities od cremate their enemies bodies which was sacrilegious in mesopotamian culture -The Mortek guard infantry like to refer to one another as Brother/Sister-in bones. I think that a funny
I love all these except the fossil guys a fossil is when bones are replaced with minerals their ain't no bones Left in em. Maybe their somewhere during the process or some such
@@goreobsessed2308 Perhaps in AoS those minerals are inhabited by the same death energy that was in the bones they replaced and that's why Mortisans can use them for constructs.
Bones are a cool horror vibe. Skeletons do not get enough credit for being pretty scary given their habit of falling apart and making Xylophone noises. But look at these guys, they are fucking scary. Really leaning into the "monsters animated by profane magic' vibe more so than pretty much any zombie.
@musicman24X and if ever there was a empire that would construct horrific bone monsters out of their own dead given the chance..... it would be the Roman's.
@@thatprofessorguy8316their whole thing was that they eventually didn't have enough soldiers to maintain the massive empire they eventually made, so they'd love having a bunch of skeletons hold down the border
You single handedly advertise AoS better than GW does. This is like the 5th faction where I am like: Yo this is sick, maybe I should pick these up once I have some time and money to spend.
This just makes me think of that "I Think You Should Leave episode" where the guy makes a country song about skeletons and says "The bones are their money, and so are their worms."
I love how AOS has a faction that will hold human villages hostage, waiting for them to produce more children so there is a bigger stockpile of bones to collect yet AOS isn't gRim DaRK EnUgh
i wouldnt say its not grim dark *enough*, but compared to its scifi counterpart 40k, its a fairy tale. but that is because 40k is absurd in its grim darkness. to me aos is just enough tolkien inspired fantasy and grim dark to be great for compelling stories.
I mean yeah, a single faction on a village scale doesnt really compare with the industrial prison complex mixed with the spanish inquisition turning skulls into computers on a galaxy wide scale being just a small part of one of the most simpathetic factions
Everything about this faction is awesome. Their name, their “culture”, backstory, design, everything. I think they’re the most creative take on an undead faction since The Scourge
In heroes of might and magic 4 the undead campaign has the player character creating a kingdom with many living within this empire. The idea is similar to the ossiarch with the living providing corpses and bone and generally run the economy while the undead build, serve and fight and make up the back"bone" of the empire. Well it's still a necromancer's empire but gauldoth is intent on keeping a balance between dead and living since previous fully undead empire tend to disappear on account of being cartoonishly evil. This is by far my favorite twist on the undead trope. It's just so interesting to imagine the possibilities and cultural practices that would develop from such a place Homm4's story telling was its number 1 appeal, gauldoth is just such a s tier character
Show respect to 2+Tough, he may not have Pancreas’ charisma skill set but he’s been carrying the Mortal Realms torch since the get-go so has endurance points to spare. ✌️
Pancreas doesnt do AOS coverage justice. 2+tough is the real main man covering the lore and hes a simple "Ironjaws lore" search away which means you either lack the briancels to use the search function or you prefer to remain ignorant of AOS lore and just HAPPEN to get the lore from an all around warhammer channel such as this which tackles AOS rarely
@@ce4879 2+tough has a way of telling that I dont really like, he interrups alot of the telling to explain stuff nonstop, he need to practice how to tell a story, to much inmersion breaking.
No. Every RU-vidr who makes money from advertising Total War will be ironic at best, and at worst will spread fake infos about Warhammer Age of Sigmar. This is business, nothing personal.
I like to imagine tons of Skaven all knew about the army of Undead napping beneath their feet, but no one told anyone else because they were all hoarding that information in case it became useful later on.
Fun fact its not just the living terrorised by the bone reapers. The bone tithe can be "requested" upon deathrattle kingdoms (civilisations ruled by wights and skeletons) and if youre nothing but bones youre low key boned
You forgot something about them that’s absolutely crucial: Ossiarch Commands. Healing in the movement phase, +3” of movement, -1 Wound when charged, chaining a second activation after a Hero, +1 to their Ward saves for an entire phase, and the attached UP TO 6 FREE COMMAND POINTS. They’re incredibly good.
I love the different flavours of it, You got the endless ghost tide. The elite skellitaxing. The classic vampires and undead. And last and thus best, Bretonia but fun.
The Morghasts do date back to Warhammer Fantasy. They used to be the angels of the great god Ptra, who sicced them on Nagash after the guy tried his whole "murder the planet" plan. Unfortunately Nagash was tougher than expected and after a battle that lasted 40 days and 40 nights Bone Daddy stood triumphant. But he didn't want to waste such good warriors so he resurrected them as his boney servants: half as his bodyguards and the other half as murder machines abroad. When the Big N got shanked by a Skaven blade the Morghasts went down, and such was the power of Nagash that no mortal necromancer could bring them back. But when the End Times hit Nagash put them into use again, which is when we saw their debut.
Seems like the Ossiarchs could benefit from setting up some Orc farms. Just grow them there in controlled conditions and when they're done, get some quality bones, rinse and repeat.
Looked forward to this. "Nagash's take on Stormcast" is a good idea. Also great how lately Archaon is messing with Katakros's mind. AOS, Broken Realms especially has this take on immortals and Chaos being saying "we have time to mess with eachother, but I can outhink your torment" ala Olyander and Belakor that Warhammer and 40K don't have as much.
Can you make a video on why star wars could survive 40k as a minor faction. You can just use the ROTS and Shatterpoint novels as sources, since both books were extensively edited and coowritten by George Lucas (Shatterpoint's prologue was written and signed by Lucas, and Mathew Stover himself said not a word written in the ROTS novel didn't go thru Lucas first) These novels have turbolazers exchanging fire from hundreds of thousands of kilometers away. Jedi blocking hypersonic bullets, Yoda and Sidious moving fast enough to make mini tornados etc There is multiple sources in Canon and legends that put turbolazers lazers at or even hundreds of times stronger than Tsar Bombs, in legends lone ships can glass entire planets The droid Army numbers in the Quadrillions in star wars canon (Star Wars, Allies and Adversaries) and it was an army made in less than 10 years
@@papapalps2415 Truthfully, it would actually be a major faction. The star wars galaxy made a Quadrillions strong droid army in less than ten years, and this is still canon. That's insane productivity. Also Star Wars ships can glass whole planets, have ranges in the hundreds of thousands of Kilometers. And star wars ships are made way faster than the Imperium, they change out entire galactic fleets every 4 years Their biggest issue is that they don't have anything out of a handful of characters who can match astartes
@@phil3751 In the old canon (and also just going by generalized estimates for droid production based off AOTC) it is/was in the quintillions. Which, hilariously, is probably as many or more battle droids than the total galactic population. As for Astartes, I fail to see why that matters, frankly. Marines can and are brought down regularly by overwhelming firepower even by infantry, and anything anti-armor grade or above will kill them quite convincingly. And even on an individual basis, again at least in the old canon, SW does have its own super soldier wank ala Dark Trooper Phase 3's (fuck, even the new canon Dark Troopers could likely put up by a fight, just by dint of sheer durability and physical strength, although they couldn't win), Yuuzhan Vong Hunter Droids, and of course, the myriad number of Dark Side fodder the Empire had floating around that should be well matched (ala Shadow Guards, Sovereign Protectors, Imperial Acolytes, etc, etc). And at the end of the day, the sad fact of the matter is that the Empire has the industry to sacrifice an accept a 1-to-1 ISD-Astartes conversion rate and still come out ahead.
