Do Raiders Have Souls? - Rethinking Fallout 4 

That genuinely made me laugh

+Jackie Wilson Better dead than red.

+Jackie Wilson If its red its dead

+Jewmeat01 if it's yellow (NV) be mellow

+Jackie Wilson Tip my imaginary hat off to you.

+Epicleeb Dumbass.

+Epicleeb, He was quoting Stalin. The point isn't that it's true. Obviously it isn't. The point is that people's heart strings are pulled by narrative, by a face, by the hardship of someone they can humanize.

***** I didnt use the -Stalin for a reason

*****, I hate you for beating me to it. Now you get all the up votes. You're a monster, and I put a curse on you.

Except this quote was only attributed to Stalin. There's no evidence he actually said it.

If only there were a surrender system in fallout 4.

+Ciaran Brickles you can pacify lower level enemies by pointing your weapon at them

***** I know about that, But i mean when an enemy runs away you can tell your companion to not blow their head off.

yea i mean like in skyrim you got that thief to a sliver of hp and begs for mercy and you dont kill him and then he attacks you with his ho regenerated...

+Dog Bark sometimes if a gunner forge or raider sees you he will say "back off im warning you" or "don´t make me do soemthing i´ll regret" or "don´t come any closer " and they don´t atack you

I just spammed the fire button while holding plasma mines as soon as dialogue finished

I do that to

Got behind him with the minigun you get from Preston and VATS'd the shit out of his head

I kept bloody dying so I just thought, “FUCK YOU” and did the same. 😂

I did with my mirv big boy

+James Taylor This gave me fucking chills.

+Twenty-Something Nerd Well, it was almost a lot longer and a lot heavier. They were spot on with this video

QualityFaggot honestly? Yes. Most of the people we fought were forced in to it by the actual extremists. Most did it because their families lives were threatened. Even then, most never aimed. They would hide behind cover and shoot aimlessly, rationalizing it as "Gods will" if someone is killed. People are people regardless of where they come from.

it`s not that bad having a parent die

+Elliott Owsley Thing is, you kill the parent, his children will grow up twice as radical. I don't have any personal experience but I'd think that's how the concept of martyrdom applies to insurgencies.

yes !!! thank you someone agrees x ()

gave a settler a quad missile launcher and 50 gernades, got captured by raiders-- how?

+Tʜᴇ Sᴀᴠᴀɢᴇ Gᴏᴅᴅᴇss Sᴡᴀɢᴜʏᴀ Ōᴛsᴜᴛsᴜᴋɪ (大筒木カグヤ スタイルたぶん) just becuase you give someone tool to defend themselves doesnt mean they would. this is both a statement and a jab at current affairs.

Yeah, fuck em. I just use settlements as fast travel nodes because enemies don't respawn there

meow, or when settlers tells you not to cause them troubble.

civ and rome.. sir civ and rome. Not to mention 4X space games where youre wiping out planets. 10.000 million deaths is what happens when the gunnery serg eyeballs it with the Mass driver cannon. Im easily into the sextillions.

bigolbear the jammy dodger Yeah, but those aren't very "close" to feeling like people. They tend to be really close to just numbers in space RTS. If we only consider games like "age of empires", where units are undeniably humans, I might have killed over 1 billion.

i shudder to think how many times a radstag breezed past me attempting to flee before getting a flurry of plasma infused shotgun shells to the back of its heads, only for me to not pick up the meat because fuck the food im a stimpack man

+bobjim245 Always eat what you Hunt.

my average age of empires game had a casualty rate of over 5,000. In star wars empires at war i decimated galaxies of troops like i was mowing grass in a overgrown lawn. I think id be responsible for several trillion deaths in RTS.

Terrible in our world maybe?

+P1tri0t (spoiler) there's actually a spot by the grave yard in game where a raider is giving a burial to another raider and its crying why did it have to be you? my first time i walked up to check....the damn raider turned on me and shot. so i killed him.....then i dragged his body and put him in the same grave on top of his friend body.....i did him a favor by reuniting him with his friend in the digital afterlife :P

+Christpher Bryant huh, ive seen that but i must have killed him too fast to hear the dialogue

go to the north star ship. those "raiders" are actually just Norwegian pre-war sailers turned goul. the reason they shoot at you is because they cant speak english and you literaly charge into their camp. and when you kill them they ask you why you are here, and what do want from them. they also get pissed and yellnat you for killing their friends.

This is a pretty common things. Like in The Last of Us, MGS, or Wolfenstein. Games have been doing this for a while.

I can imagine that, walking into a raider base, killing all but 1, and a few days later, that same raider comes back with t-60 armor and a minigun, along with 6 raider veterans

***** Agreed.

Iosif I Oh damn, that'd be awesome

Iosif I good story + good game play + nemesis system = saving my allowance for a new game, haha or just waiting for Christmas or birthday...

Fighting the legendary nemesis Radroach would be so entertaining. Especially, if it gains sentience and comes at you with an army.

Yuu Neeq Fallout 5 need this Option

There are some pearks to pacify enemies

@@tandyVR Unfortunately, 'pacifying' them doesn't stop them, it just keep them from fighting _you_. They don't agree to join up with one of your settlements, hang up their weapons and become peaceful, nor can you convince a raiding party to just 'leave', even with pacification. Which is kind of sad. My headcanon says that most of the settlers in my settlements are former raiders that decided this was their chance to do just that, and I'm fine with that. :)

I use pacify perk

I have to agree with Corporal Betsy, killing drugged up feind girls and ganger chicks that have no idea what they are doing just sucks. Just because there wasn't a budget or time to give them the ability to do anything but attack like a rabid animal. :(

I think he was being literal.

He certainly earned the name "White Death"

@@nullpoint3346... But Simo Häyhä was *literally* the most deadly sniper in history, what do you mean when you say "Literal"?

Gary Cole he means his statement about the recoil of the rifle.

@@schizoidhavingagoodtime2837 more like 3-5 months

An eye for an eye snd the world goes blind...

Me: walks next to a raider with a double barrel aim at his head Raider: shoots Me: "he shot first"

@@mew2eight773 he did shoot first

@@DinoThatPlaysHaloQ it was supposed to be a joke... r/woosh..?

Thats the rule: They shot you kill them

That was a good one.

Oh yeah, I remember that one. I think you can hear that conversation near Hardware Town (a shop just south of Diamond City)

+thegreentaxi yeah that's the one

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yea hahaha I heard that story - by invisible raiders close to college square. they are truly invisible because u search the entire area thoroughly I checked vats no scan of life forms - and even checked my compass no blips

Michał Bukowiecki Welcome to the Brotherhood of Steel

That is retarded.

@@jerrymcghoulberry355 yeah who helps ghouls? kill em all i say!

@@notnice8 Feral ghouls are the only bad ones the rest are basically people that don't grow old

@@saiyanfang1047 ghouls are the greate enemy

+Teddy Julock while I've not played the game its the sort of system that I would love to see implemented

Owen Hall Give them a go, sounds like it's right up your alley really. The story is undeniably engrossing also.

Far cry 2, a game everyone likes to riff on did this exact thing. As you level up your reputation in game the enemies and friendly NPC's will react to you differently. enemies will yell out things like "oh god it's him! were all gonna die!" and in town people would freeze what they are doing and stare in fear as you walk by. Friendly NPC's would make remarks about "you don't give a dam about what's going on here" and things like that. And when enemies know you are around but don't know exactally where you are you can hear them talking to each other trying to overcome their fear and psyche themselves up to try and take you on.

Far Cry 2 kinda sucks regardless

This is definitely a necro but there are a few games out there which some of these systems put in. The two I can think of are Mount & Blade (warband specifically but most of the games have the same systems in place) and Rimworld. In M&B, these systems are embedded with companions and morale systems, where when you take "questionable" actions, some of your companions will confront you about it like Companion A takes issue with you razing a village (this does include you just having your warband kill tons of the villagers with very little resistance (since they have no armor, just using farming tools trying to defend your homes while you have your party who are literally armed for war just come down and stomp them into the ground just because they are ruled by some enemy faction) and if you have troops from a faction you are at war with, your party morale is dropped slightly since you are sort of slaying their people and with decrease morale you have chances of them just deserting you and maybe trying to kill you but I can't remember if that is from a mod or not. Then to Rimworld, there is very little in the mode of combat having moral implications unless the colonists have some form of relation to said person but the moral focused stuff is after the fight like, you have a dying raider. What do you do? Do you imprison them or just let just die from their injuries or die from exposure of the elements. If you imprison them what to do with them then? Do you just keep them there forever, release them, try to have them join your colony, or be a sick person and harvest their organs since in rimworld, you can do transplants and combat can damage your colonist's organs/limbs, so you have a colonist who is currently crippled because of the engagement with this captured raider's party and conveniently enough they have peg legs or some scifi robotic limb, do you harvest them to give to your colonist or do you just leave your colonist a cripple? Rimworld is just a great game for these kind of stories and I would highly suggest it even though its still currently in development however it can be a bit depressing at times since you are very likely to "lose" in that game. Honestly its strange since these systems can easily be seen as an obstacle of "fun" since you are bogging down the experience with these heavy topics and overthinking pixels (technically polygons if they are 3d models) and simple 1's and 0's . That is why generally in these kinds of games there are options or mods that sort of disable them but I personally like the idea of thinking of our consequences even in a virtual world

+ThePunisher1028 a good deed is still good even if done for selfish reasons

+Darrough Tock I'm a good guy. For myself. That's enough.

fair enough i guess.

+ThePunisher1028 Two games made me question my sainity: Soldier of Fortune and Deus Ex. The former was an uber violent FPS that was one of the very first to have locational damage modeling on its enemies, a fact that was trumpeted loudly by the game's developers and marketers and I as a gore obsessed teen at the time, playing an 18 rated game, revelled in getting to gut-shot enemies with a 45. handgun and watching them drop to their knees, screaming in pain and trying to hold their guts in. I started to pride myself on my brutality in this game. Then I played Deus Ex. This game did things I never saw in games before, dropping me little hints of what went on in the minds of my enemies. Oh, I was still playing as a cold blooded killer, this time priding myself on my ruthless efficiency and then I got to a part in an enemy base, reading emails on a hacked computer and it included one about the upcoming company picnic, reminding personelle to make sure they had all their arrangments for themselves and their families. And then in Paris, I meet the parents and little brother of one of the Doom Troopers I'd been killing with such cold contempt and suddenly I had to stop the game. I was thinking of my cruelty in Soldier of Fortune and other games I'd played, this wasn't long after the Columbine school shootings and I was genuinely questioning my sainity. Was I turning into some sadistic sociopath? Were these games really making me into a monster? I couldn't play another FPS for at least a month after that, untill I realised that the very fact that I was able to question my sainity meant I wasn't insane, not yet at least. I went back to my games, throwing myself in particular into Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind with gusto, but I never played games quite the same way. My breif brush with madness is still with me and actually serves as a comforting factor, letting me know I'm not a delusional murderer-in-waiting as the media seems to want to depict all gamers.

+ThePunisher1028 Also, remember Spec Ops: the Line? You know, where you just maw through a ton of soldiers to find out they were your allies all along it was just your hero being a crazy person? Some soldiers in that game had A LOT of dialogue between each other talking about how beautiful the view is and how they miss theit home etc P.S. And yeah, Deus Ex does it quite well too. In the first one they've even put a rat kill into the game and made it look really damn sad. In HR you can feel remorse even after killing supposed 'zombies' in the end because they could've been cured from that plague. Love this series of games.

I once ran into a raider.. I pinned his head to a tree with a railroad spike and removed his clothes then cut off his remaining limbs and put them in a stack

I dont think having a soul has anything to do with morality..

If it's hostile, you kill it... right?

well after nuka world does your character have a soul?

+enclave commander I wiped out the raider factions in Nuka-World. Made sure that every single one was dead. I was not going to be a part of something that would take pleasure in the pain of others, let alone be it's leader. The Enclave doesn't count! So, shut up before you start critizising it! We had humaity's best interest in mind, dammit!

Before you turn them into coloured rain

Yeah they put their heads on pikes

If they were truly just trying to survive, they would try to make peace with other settlements instead of mindlessly killing anything that moved.

volksdude1970 I know, right? Raiders are clearly not people we should sympathize with.

Let's be honest here. Megaton for example would look amazing with a raider style to it. Full of hooks and chains with bodies hanging from them. It's like a Hellraiser dream. I want a house decorated like that.

+Mista Steal yo waifu The only raider I can sympathize with would be Jericho, from Fallout 3. He used to be a raider, but he's seen the error of his ways and settled down.

+Al3Antar I must say that Hotline Miami's OST is pretty awesome as well

+Miguel Almeida never played it. I should though I've heard so much about it!

+Al3Antar play it! Get it on a steam sale!

Can you tell me which track is that?

+HaloFan117 Far Horizons.

Didn't he say he didn't feel shit when he killed someone? Sound pretty psychopathic to me

No the actual exchange went like this; "how could you kill so many people?". Answer; "Lots of training". You will find that most soldiers of WW2 do not feel that bad- at least not those on the Allied side. Some Germans, like Heinrich Severloh- who believed he killed 2000+ GIs at Omaha (but probbaly killed 500-ish and wounded 1000), feel/felt very bad for the remainder of their lives. Others repressed/justified their actions.

He said "alive"

Archer Noonan I missed that. But in my defence it is not too long since Simo died.

14 years is pretty long

30 synths? Are you with the Institute?

+Sam Krahn no - synths rarely go out. - heck I sided with the brotherhood and I only have 26 synth kills.

+Princess Celestia You guys just don't know the synth hideouts. Like University Point, or that secret military base I forgot the name of.

+PwnerPaintball I didn't even know synths had hideouts. well then I need to explore more

+Sam Krahn yes I did

dude that's pretty hardcore

genius

sir because of u pointing this horrible fact IT MADE MY MURDER SPREES A LOT FUNNER

Tyson Ellis you deserve a medal...

Those kids could grow up to be vicious killers, so it's better them than some poor settler right?

+Rednecksith5 I will somewhat agree on part of that- games in general need more moments where someone (or maybe many more) on the "evil" side are given chances to give up and actually be human. Like with a bit of advice for being a DnD GM I heard a while back: remember, these "monsters" are living, thinking creatures. They don't want to die (most of the time) so let them give up, let them run away, if it makes sense- and let the player decide whether or not they want to chase them. The way Skyrim did it always bugged me. I beat a bandit within an inch of his life, he kneels and says, "I yield, I yield!" I give him a moment to get up and run away, and... he immediately goes back to trying to kill me. That always bugged me. (of course I have so many mods installed I can't remember if that's one of them or the base game anymore)

+SippinonMickeys If it's anything like Skyrim people of high mortality are more likely to accept surrender, like guards or citizens. I've never tried surrendering in Fallout 4 yet so idk.

If I was you I would've pickpocketed him and if I had pickpocketing maxed up I would've put a grenade there too because really, when do you have tge chance to do that?

+Rednecksith5 I have to admit though, that when one of them yelled that they had kids, my character hesitated a moment.

I agree the voice acting and writing are horrible

Preston Garvey I've been through 18 playthrough of skyrim and I have still never killed parthunnax, I can't bring myself to do it.

Why are you here don't you need someone to go help out another settlement

Preston Garvey Pathurnax He was a liberal dragon, pretty much the dragon version of animal rights activists. Blades, though are utter Nazis. Pathurnax changed his course and redeemed himself. And without his help, the dovahkiin probably couldn't have killed Alduin.

I understand everything but, I have word from a settlement that may need our help, here let me mark it on your map.

Preston your in talking about the wrong game your suppost to be in fallout

That's why it's harder to be a sniper who gets the first shot. They didn't fire first.

there was a raider outpost in a beer factory and i slaughter them. then i found a raider outpost in a federal ration stockpile : i slaughter them too. and i found a computer in it and i found out that the boss in the beer factory was an asshole who kidnap the sister of the boss in the federal ration stockpile and she was trying to find her

BuBelzelù&SatanicArts Canedio Records. Yeah. Bethesda did a good job connecting the world and intertribal relationships.

***** True! But many are forced with no other choice (not an excuse for their crimes).

Remember the school? Quite a few people were kidnapped and tortured until agreeing to join.

+Terence Reuschel Well , if you gonna play it that way, you better gonna try FO 1 , 2 or New Vegas. Cause you are just ovethinking the new age equivalent of a post apocalyptic Hatred.

I've already played Fallout 1, 2, Tactics, 3 and New Vegas, but not yet from such a perspective. It's just not the same if you already know what's going to happen when you do this or that.

This post was very inspiring but i think I'd end up building a small shed and then be a farmer with a dangerous exploration-hobby.. I'd never accept quests that seemed violent and i would put traps all around my house and eventually accidentally kill myself in em xD

+Terence Reuschel if you can`t solve the problem..........kill it >:D

+Terence Reuschel When I got into the game on my first play through, I wanted to kill people with Grognaks axe.

That's how Duels worked in the old times.

i mean.. your wife

+nickblio sp your saying that as if Kellog purposely went into the vault just to kill the sole survivors wife. Kellog was ordered to go get the child, but forced to kill the wife due to resistance. Kellog was just a family man forced to become a cold blooded killing machine.

yea but it coulda been you on that job it

+spartan6518 She barely resisted. He just got impatient and shot the PCs spouse. Wouldn't an enhanced human have enough strength to wrestle a baby out of the arms of an unfrozen person?

+spartan6518 the institute didn't order him to kill anybody, he did it because he wanted, as well as the rest of survivors of the cryogenic machines

+RubberGently A lot of people get to thinking though, about what they would do in real life.

+WinterXL but the thing is, the raiders need to die so that we may progress with the story. they aren't real, and they hinder us. thus, we should and often do eliminate them without a 2nd thought

+RubberGently all the more proving this guys point

+ShoddyCast Will I have second thoughts before killing another virtual enemy? No. And not only 'cause it's not a human but also because that game simulates an extreme situation and that virtual enemy represents a threat. We (America-Europe) live in careless conditions but it's not impossible that we will be forced to fight for our lives against other people willing to come and kill us for what we possess. It happened at multitude in history so don't say it's impossible.

+ShoddyCast No. They're just strings of code. Though to be fair, I do pause to listen to the conversations of NPCs like Raiders and Super Mutants, which serve to humanize and give them personalities of their own. Then I blow their heads off.

+ShoddyCast I kinda wish you would have focused a bit more on fallout. :\

+ShoddyCast Play Spec ops the line. It plays with the idea of exactly what your talking about. Infact you would like it if you like to rethink things.

+ShoddyCast What up' with this Buzz Kill episode?

yeah. it's kinda sad, i don't get why things like that exist.

agreed... first persin shooters would suck if everytime you pulled the trigger you had a mental breakdown and ended up in a field hospital for ptsd

TheBoss Band of Brothers?

I'd say it depends, The Japanese in WWII were BRUTAL. They tortured prisoners "Because they are the enemy". The US however did the polar opposite to their POW's, the treated them fairly. The Russians were also like the Japanese, fucking monsters. They did DISGUSTING things. The way the Germans treated theirs is a mixed bag, on one hand they were treated like shit, on the other some were treated fairly. (Rommel during the African Campaign comes to mind) If you don't know who Erwin Rommel is I HIGHLY recommend looking him up.

+corn-dog “Corndog” lebron , There is kinda sort of is. But with you companions. Also why should you get punished in the public even though the way you did bad things were never seen?

+WOAW WOWOWOW Word of mouth?

Juancho Soriano Word of mouth?

WOAW WOWOWOW Like people seeing what the Sole Survivor did and spreading rumors based on what they saw.

Same could be said about real life, couldn't it? So that's a moot point.

+Epicleeb We are not denying that White Death is the deadliest sniper in history. But ( I'm not sure) I think he's dead. But now you are trying to compare like the cop with the most arrest against like Hannibal Lecter's gruesome killings. White Death fought against the Red's for the freedom of Finnland but Hitler killed millions because he didn't liked them. One is mentioned to tell heroism and resistance against tyranny whiles the other is mentioned to tell his gruesome acts so the chance of repeating stays quit low m8 :)

Snipers... psshh.. they're fucking campers! Spoilsports, the lot of 'em! ( lol i can't honestly find any admiration for someone who've killed people.. or dogs.. or cows.. or spiders.. or support the idea of it xD )

+RPGtalkout Paul Tibbets has the highest kill count.

+VJ89VJ Simo Hayha was defending his homeland from Soviet invasion. I don't care how you cut it, that's damned heroic. Yes, the Soviet troops were mostly conscripts, but that just makes them victims in the war as much as the Finnish defenders were.

Damn, I've never played a sneak character so I've never really heard their conversations

Still them. They probably killed a lot of innocent people for the sole purpose of cash.

Pastafarian Prophet That was you

To be fair hardly anyone plays the good guy in Skyrim. It's alright to be evil in games

They were the bad guys because they rob and murder innocent people. By taking them out you saved the lives of other travellers who would have been ambushed

Yeah, I liked how a lot of the raiders were done in Fallout 4. There's much more characterization there if you look for it.

XxDabAGAgxX are part of a complete breakfast

The thing about Dungeons and Dragons is that the option to not kill is even more prevalent than in a video game. In Fallout raiders attack you on sight, and the battle continues until either one side is dead, or you flee. In D&D as long as you can speak to the other creature, you can negotiate.

your a jerk

hahaha

Courtney Lyles I am not a contemptibly obnoxious person.

What depends?

CreeperDJ If raiders have souls

I don't know, the Raiders do seem to be making a come back.

+Bill Jenkins "Gameplay and Story segregation" is probably the best description for what happens. The story tells you that these Raiders are actually people and that you should feel for them. The gamplay tells you that if you don't fire back and kill them, you WILL die... or run away and get nothing but the cost of using healing items. It is really.... unfortunate that most games fall into doing that.

I like how you think. In fact there is even a raider encounter where a raider is burying an old friend and contemplating quitting. Hell, people like Jake Finch are just trying to help their families. It's things like these that made me get the intimidation perk so that I could spare them.

+Teddy Chang i got the perk so they could help me and then run them over in my power armour

+Jacob. there were none save abraham's familly which was spared, abraham made a deal with God that if there were any it would be spared and judging from the couple kilotons he dropped on the city.....

Jacob. a.) the angels didn't decide anything or destroy it, that was God b.) it wasn't a random bunch of rapists it was the WHOLE DAMN TOWN both young and old c.)God said to him if there were ten good people in sodom he would spare it...since there were no good people there he blew it up d.) if the women were good they would have been spared and all the kids would go to heaven anyway which I would bet is a lot better than living in rape city. e.) you did the :P face wrong and before you post a counter argument go read genesis 18-20 first

Jacob. a.) God is omniscient so that discounts the angel thing b.) there were different opinions about the after life but the concept of heaven did indeed exist at that point if imagined in a different way. c.) how is it a bad excuss? they go to an eternal paradise, if you look from a religious point of view it isn't bad in the least. Honestly would you rather them end up abandoned and die a slow and painful death. d.) its spelled angel this whole time you've been saying geomotry destroyed a city ;P

Jacob. no where does it say they were sent to judge only that they were sent to town they were part of the judgement but they did not judge. again there were different belifes about heaven there was not a singular imagining just as there is not a singualr imagining now. Besides this takes place before being Jew was a thing. if the killer is the guy who is perfect, created the universe and knows everything including whats going to happen in said kids life then yes it is justified...last I checked not many murderers met that requirement.

+Jacob. In my experience, Christians rationalize god's actions in an ad-hoc manner. If god destroys a city, for example, then it's assumed after the fact that god's actions were committed in a context that made them moral (i.e. every man, woman and child in the city must have somehow deserved death, even though there is no way we can verify that). Of course, the stories of fire and brimstone raining down in a precision strike on a city, not to mention the subsequent transmutation of humans into minerals, are ridiculous, unsupported claims that deserve perhaps the fleeting anthropological interest, rather than the belief, of anyone remotely intelligent.

+Kévin Joly No friend. I constructed a Dwemer Computer.

+The Ebony Warrior How about you survive until my time then fight me in the CommonWealth?

+Paladin Danse Fine Paladin. Just as long as you don't bring the Brotherhood with you.

The Ebony Warrior They already are with me, they've been with me. I'll be waiting...

+Paladin Danse I'm surprised. But I'll ask this. What do you think of Synths?

+Charles Lewis But.....Batman's one rule.

+The Borg this is a separate timeline, somethings have changed, welcome to the wasteland peasant

+The Borg. no batman kills people all the time

+The Borg you .... probably shouldn't go see Batman v Superman :P

Daredhnu Honestly, I did not plant to since Ben is the bat, but if people are getting killed, maybe it could possibly be worth throwing on the list? I know superman had no issue with destroying an entire city last time lol

+Koala Uprising same here

+Koala Uprising I deliberately picked female because my friend picked male so that we could compare potential differences, if there were any. Also I tend to always make female characters, but that's almost unrelated :P

+JetBalrog A reason to go female is that most of the raiders/gunners/ etc. are male, and you can get the 15 extra damage to male perk.

+The Borg One perk and 15 damage influence your whole game? Sounds like an excuse...not for me, I always choose male, but maybe for 1 of my 4 playthroughs, I'll choose a girl.

Koala Uprising An excuse? lol it's just a reason and a difference between the two. Nobody needs an excuse to choose a gender in a video game. Especially a single player one. Also. 15 percent is pretty significant to min/maxers.

Yea the AI its awesome

+Cam Philipse Good thing i just kidnap them

+Shantier Madani WOO DINI

i fulton extracted them. only killed if i needed to.

It just reminds me of Dishonored. I had played the game by slaughtering anyone who came in front of me. Spoiler warning. Then I got the high chaos ending telling me about how we will just change history to basically account for my murders. I felt horrible. The way the game made me feel about those people I killed, knowingly. I thought something was odd about the second to last part where the carts of the dead who I thought were disease victims were actually my victims. Games are said to make you turn into a psychopath, but then how could I feel this feeling from a game and not real life?

+Paladin Danse (Paladin Danse) I KNEW IT ! There is a reason I wiped out the Brotherhood ! Because your leader has a nice looking coat and your Boat Captain has a nice hat !

_+C Overkämping_ Bu-but... Captain Ironsides has a nice hat.

nah m8, take the coat and the hat and you feel like a starcraft 2 battleship commander. .44 gun necessary

Oh no... I guess this is the same guy who tried to be Preston.

***** The Danse above is a Synth, I escaped the Institute before it blew up, I'm at Rivet City now working as a trader again.

You have every right. If the idea of killing someone doesn't disturb you though, then it's better you just avoid people because there's something horribly wrong with you.

Ethan Stansmore dude I was in Iraq, killing people is something you can get used to. besides there is a difference between murder and killing. murder is the bad one, killing is fine as long as the reasons are right.

+clericofchaos1 "killing people is something you can get used to" well if that's not a sociopathic thing to say, I don't know what is.

ImmortalGirl88 well it was either get used to it, come to terms with it, go insane from it, or die because I couldn't bring myself to do it, either of the two first options were acceptable, but the last two I wanted nothing to do with.

+Heartless214 To be fair the entire fucking iraq conflict is a petty reason so you're pretty much defending killing the OP.

+Der Schweigefuchs MERICA!

MERICA FUCK YA thats right im truly american because i dont use punctuation no im serious im american

+Der Schweigefuchs Its actually because of the youtube rules

+Radical Lad Literally impossible. A streamer played the game where he had everyone else kill themselves for him and he broke the game several times playing it.

***** Where it's possible, I mean.

+Radical Lad yeah,,killing everybody make you a soulless monster from hell like chara :P

Undertale was such a fantastic game

PhoenixBB I wouldn't trade my time with that game away for anything except maybe a remake thats bigger and better

People are people. They have stories. They have lives and shit. If you kill them, even if you have good reason to, then you'll probably feel bad to discover they aren't blind monsters who's only purpose is to inconvenience you.

i will still mow down raiders becuase they will mow be down first. But the real feels i felt was (spoilers) The covenant. a ton of nice good people. and a slaughtered them Becuase they were an active risk to railroad. well really i didnt feel much not really feel more like "well damn it. i like you poeple but your a legitamate threat so i guess i must end you"

+Fenryr 3001 I believe its close to the museum of witchcraft but i could be totally wrong

+Michael Townsend I shot the guy as well. I then looted his body along with the person he was burying. I was kind enough to shoot both in the head to make sure they were dead and put his body in the hole as well.

Forgot about that guy! The "White Death" a true legend!!!!

how about let's not glorify serial killers well atleast serial has a pattern and maybe even a better delusion these miltary fucks are just what trying to pay for school they are both about equally "skilled"...

You pc bro.

+8bit Lost Those "Military fucks" are the brave people that protect your right to say stupid shit like that

+8bit Lost oh yeah Simo Hayha, a real serial killer, using his old outdated rifle to gun down the poor innocent Soviets who were just trying to protect themselves from the mean Finish farmers.

That and you got a better use of those resources. Like making your settlement able to provide for it's inhabitants. Along with being better able to protect said settlements, with bigger and better guns.

Deacon says I'm "too good at this". Whatever. Goodbye, Railroad.

I just used a mini nuke

Wow so mlg

lol the on ny first character i killed him using a mini nuke hated his bald ass head

Ah the easiest difficulty

+Blazer You should put out a series called "Overthinking, Overthinking Video Games", and than we can all overthink that in the comments section.

+Silver Rush Well now you're just overthinking things aren't you?

Trumpkins Revenge. That's the general idea, don't you think? Or should I rethink that.. Sorry lost my train of thought..

Silver Rush Train of thought, like an actual train? Or am I just overthinking things...

Trumpkins Revenge. Maybe in another reality it actually is a train and that's why we refer to it like that in this reality!

what in the goddamn..?

+TheRacoonGhost They're one of my favorite channels on RU-vid.