Do we need grammar? - native Japanese speaker uses bad grammar on the phone 

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Its easier to identify foreigners by "phonetic errors" than by grammatical errors

Im not that good at japanese but i somehow find a way to understand you ! Gives me a big boost of confidence in my japanese !

I was laughing so hard because that is DEFINITELY how I speak Japanese! 🤣 My reason is because (when) I don’t know how to properly conjugate it, I’ll just use the dictionary form. I just thought it would be less weird sounding than to improperly conjugate. Although, not being anywhere near fluent, I’ve no idea if that is a fair assumption or not. 😅 Anyways, thanks for this video! I will study the grammar more thoroughly henceforth! 頑張ります！

Your friend's reaction is brilliant 😂

日本で日本語を勉強して3ヶ月になるけど、このビデオで傷ついた(笑)。このチャンネルは最高ですよ、素敵な海の日をお過ごしください！

I often make grammatical mistakes during chatting with people in a game called VRC, but all of them are kind enough to correct me where i am wrong and i am very gratefull for that. Hitoki you really explained the whole scenario really well. Also what's the name of the japanese learning book you showed in the video ?

Well, in my experience, unless it's really broken, even if you're using the wrong grammar, Japanese people can fill in the blank. So far, i actually have more problems with garaigo/外来語, unless your pronunciation is the exact katakana, a lot of Japanese can't understand words like "rental" even if the garaigo is just rentaru

My mother language is German and we often make mistakes in our own language. Sometimes it's pretty obvious that you made a mistake but on other times you just don't realize it xD

I'm a native kadazan from East Malaysia and hearing the pronunciation, I laugh so hard that I started to remember how I speak to my family and relatives 😭😂 Sometimes my aunt correct my sentences but I keep messing them up lmao But some of them are fine with it, even my cousin does it (both of us are having trouble with our native tongue language mixing with malay words out of nowhere)

I freaking love Japanese language but after hearing you my inner self just wants to speak fluent Japanese like u.. 😅 Seems impossible to me right now but I hope one day I'll be the one talking fluently to u in Japanese 😁🤍

最近は日本語をもっと正しく喋るように勉強のじかんはないのですけど喋るや書く実習はいつも楽しい。非常に限られた知識でも。文法をゆっくりに習っていると気がするでも単語がたくさん知らない。もっと単語を覚えたら日本語を聞いてることはすごくわかりやすいになれると思います。 主題を変えるに、ひときさんはとても面白い。多分頻繁に言えましたけどこの男性のユーモアのセンスをよく楽しんでいます。

This is so funny, and your friend's reaction is great I never saw it coming. Both in Spanish and English whenever I am talking with friends or family we can make huge grammatical errors that of course are very identifiable but our humor is so weird we immediately know the other is just messing around because we tend to mess up grammar for memery.

I love that you make the videos entirely in japanese and the subs are nicely done, that was exactly how I learned english, now, lets learn japanese HAHA

i can listen to u speak japanese all day🥹it somehow feels so comforting makes me wanna start learning again:( if only i had time to learn…

I think over time you naturally learn a lot of grammar and also the key thing is to be understood and that's possible without being perfectly correct grammatically

Thank God you uploaded a video 😭🙏🤍 we missed you senpai 🥺🤍

説明の仕方がとても分かりやすくて、本当にありがとうございます!!日系アラブ人になるために日本語の勉強を頑張ります 😆✨✨

5ヶ月前に日本語を学び始めました。日本語で話す時いつも間違えます😅このビデオはとても役に立ち、励みになりました。アップしてくれて本当にありがとう！

That last part of the call was amazing lol

い形容詞に"だ"をつけるかどうかは間違っても普通に言いたいことが通じるけど、最後の電話切るのあれは文法だけじゃなくて、ことばの組み合わせ自体が謎すぎて脳がバグるも当然ですねw

Hi cutie. Love your videos! Great work. Now I understand that grammar must be correct when learning Japanese.

Please keep doing these videos! Great education with a great twist of humor!!! Along with real live results with someone. Great work!!!

Wow, thanks for the video! I've been learning Japanese by myself for only 1 year so I never know the right grammar is 可愛いよ and I've been using 可愛いだよ in conversation with Japanese friends 😂 Recently I also make a mistake of using 言わたくない instead of saying 言いたくない and they teased me a lot for this until I feel a bit embarrassed www I'm still a beginner so I'm going to study more and more from now on✨ *I told my japanese friends about 可愛いだよ and they just said it is forgivable if the pronunciation sounds like native ww (but I can't trust them www)

El amigo de Hitoki estaba más confundido por los halagos repentinos que por el pequeño error gramátical 😂

To me, it doesnt metter for a non native speaker either way they speak text book japanese or like others say the real japanese. Forget about that. It´s technicly a miracle that a foreigner can speak your lenguage even if it is just broken japanese or same applies for any other language.

omg i kept rewatching the phone call part and laughing so hard. I love the second hand awkwardness of watching these types of videos HAHAHAH.

pls the way u actually gaslit him into thinking his brain was processing ur words incorrectly had my laughing too hard my stomach hurts 😭😭

Many people want to learn a foreign language (in this case Japanese), but few people like to study grammar. So many think that it is useless to learn the rules for speaking a foreign language: after all, it is enough to listen to native speakers a lot and I can learn to speak like them! Yes like them, even with their mistakes (which still make the language very natural). Many students after years of grammar cannot speak the language of their dreams and become discouraged (understandable). Grammar is not enough but you have to start from that! If you are lucky enough to be born a native speaker (for someone somewhere in the world the fact that you are a native speaker will be lucky) then ok, no problem! Grammar doesn't help you much because you learned the language in a preschool stage by imitation and memorization. Children are a blank sheet to write on, but adults are a little different: adults have in mind the functioning of our language (which appears clear and logical to us), and our memory is not like that of a child. So you have to study grammar, vocabulary and at the same time train your ear to listen and your hand to write. No pain no gain! 😎

I like when you call your friend the reactions are funny lol

I love your phone calls to your friends and their confusion🤣Seriously your channel is pure gold among other Japanese youtubers. You're funny yet sometimes I learn more useful phrases from you than from my japanese teacher 🙃Last week I was in a Japanese restaurant and I ordered natto. And because I was sitting right next to the cook, who was Japanese, I said "すごく　ねばねば” his expression was priceless XD I got a free mochi and the cook was smiling at me until the end of the evening

This was a really interesting experiemnt, thanks for sharing and great video as always~

「…どっかの方言なんか…？」って思っちゃうw

こういう動画って面白いけど、こっちも緊張しちゃうんですよね😂 お疲れ様です！ そしてヒトキさん、動画で使われているイラストのコスプレ？？

このようなことをするのは 勇気が必要ですね。ひときさんは本当にかっこいいです！

わざわざ日本語教育の本を買って読んでくれていたんですね。　優しいだよね。（冗談です）

I learn the grammar then I learn native ways to say the sentences with the grammar I learned I learn native ways from movies and TV shows 😄🥰😎

Your friend is such a good sport for putting up with your "experiments". 本当に人優しいだよ。 (笑)

いいRU-vidだと思います。ゆっくり喋てくれて理解やすいです。もっともっと日本語勉強したい思いができますね～

Tal vez la gramática y algunos recursos para hablar japonés no sean tan necesarios con un nativo pero si quieres aprobar el examen de suficiencia en el idioma japonés tienes que saber lo jajaja

Maybe ask a Foreigner to use those weird/broken Japanese. That's where we'll get the real result!

Thx for video Hitoki, I liked ^^

Thank you!

Bro thank you! Topic about NA and I adjectives is really important!

発音がネイティブじゃなかったら (相手が意味を推測しようと注意深く聞いていたら) すること ある でんわ きる ある すること でんわ きる でんわ きる すること ある きる でんわ すること ある どれでも通じるでしょうね😂 「する、いけない」と 「しないといけない」ないは真逆の意味だからなかなか難しい

You literally made your friend go into Dial up mode, this was beautiful xD

ネイティブも文法結構間違えてると思うけど、非ネイティブとネイティブでは間違え方や間違えるところが違うなぁって感じることはありますね

اكتشفت انه هذي مشكلتي مع اللغه اعرف القواعد لكن ترتيب الكلمات حالة فوضى مقاطعك مفيده اشكرك وفيها ضحك وكذا نايس حبيت 👍🏻🤍

La gramática en el español también es compleja: si una palabra lleve acento o no, cambia totalmente el objeto. Por ejemplo, papá (dad) y papa (potato). Pd: me encantan tus videos y tu carisma!

I have watched a lot of your videos over the past few days and I am surprised that your friends still answer your calls. Lol

No Brasil é muito normal nem ligarem para gramática, falamos oq vem na cabeça e as vezes nem faz sentido

Me avergüenza decir que teniendo un N3 me he quedado media hora pensando por qué "Kawaii DA yo" estaba mal. Y cuando lo has dicho, me he hecho una bola en el suelo de la vergüenza JAJAJAJA

Thanks!

im glad i found this channel

I usually make grammatical and typographical errors especially when I write messages, but what I don't understand is, why when I talk to my friends the mistakes are minimal, but instead when I write comments on Twitter to one of my oshi （推し） I almost always get it wrong 😔 BTW, thank you for the clarification with the adjectives 「い」and「な」

めっちゃ面白い練習だった。 すごくいい勉強になった。 どうもありがとうございます。😂👏

Portuguese have this too, there is a grammatically correct way to say, but everyone on the daily basis says the wrong way and this is ok, some ppl uses the verbs on the wrong way. I love how use the word "mim" (me) wrong, You can't say "mim dê" (give me) you have to say "me dê", but everyone basically says MIM, ppl also switch Vir and Vier, Vier means to come and Vir is to see, and ppl mess with these two bcs whey write and speak kinda similar.

Not the super nice frnd thinking he kept mishearing him😭

I loved it when you said "Rolo It's Rolo" I remember a character in the anime Doctor Stone who used to say something similar

ひときさんのお友達はこの電話実験のシリーズのことが知っているかどうか、いつも気になっています :D

This gave me a really good laugh, thanks!

Thanks !!

اتمني حقا ان تصنع فيديو يتحدث عن (ما هو الأنمي بالنسبة لليابانيين؟)انا حقا متحمسة لإنني اظن في كثير من الاوقات ان الأنمي مجرد شيء استثماري لدي اليابانيين وانه مصدر اقتصادي للدولة وانه من احد السبل لنشر الثقافه اليابانيه فأنا اريد انا اعرف الكثير

めっちゃ面白い！🤣 That was sooo good!

I like your friend's genuine confusion at 4:00, like "bro... what?" 😅

I always get so nervous when you call your friend. I would never ahaha

i dont even know why this is so funny to me, i cannot speak japanease but i loved this video haha :D

3:04 how did you come up with that? *brain.exe stopped working*

Great vid!

Dude I was laughing so hard 🤣

It's like the way I chose Belong (with ) instead of Belong (to) in my English exercise just bcuz I trusted Taylor Swift who sang clearly "You belong with me " 😌

Some people who tilted their heads like you've said at the early part, suppose it is English language they're probally confused and maybe they want to comprehend, Sometimes because they are curious by nature. For example I recall a german who spoke English said when they do stare at other people because they are curious he thinks it is because they have experienced being spied by strangers in the past(East germany in the past citizens are usually being spied on and this past experience may have been still around 😆), but their curiousity means no harm and wishing to comprehend in nature! Probally the robot that was about to zap you just because it looks illegal wouldn't happen. Take it easy Hitogi!

good job sensi im from saudi arabia! 🇸🇦🇯🇵

このチャンネルは僕のレベルでちょうどいいですね。ゆっくりで話してくれてるし、難しい言葉あんまり使いません。 CCなしでも見れますので、ほんのすこーししかほとんど全部理解できるｗ、すごい勉強になります！ 便利なチャンネルを作ってくれて、ありがとうございます！

If a friend of mine would call me like this / prank me like this, I would probably ask if they are drunk 😂😂😂😂

形容詞を「イ形容詞」、形容動詞を「ナ形容詞」って言うんですね。英語の勉強を初めてした時英語では日本語の形容詞も形容動詞も区別せず形容詞って書いてあって混乱したのを思い出した。

私はアラブ人で、日本が大好きで、言語を学びたいのですが、多くのルールや漢字に問題があるのは日本に行くことです/ちなみにあなたの声はアニメの模倣者のように美しいと思います♥️♥️♥️

If I was your friend, I would probably not pick up the phone when you call ;'D

That was fun to watch :)

Native English speakers make all kinds of grammatical errors all the time and nobody really seems to care. A few somewhat common grammatical errors made by native speakers: 1. Confusing subject and object pronouns when using multiple in a sentence. e.g. "Him and I went to the store". This sentence uses the object pronoun ("him") instead of the subject pronoun ("he"). The rules for when to use subject or object pronouns doesn't change when additional pronouns are added. The vast majority of native speakers would correctly say "I went to the store" or "He went to the store". "Him and I went to the store" is wrong because "Him went to the store" is wrong. It seems to me that people tend to use "___ and I" when they are trying to sound more formal even if "me and ____" is the correct form. 2. Using past tense instead of past participle. e.g. "I've already mowed the lawn" In this example the verb is "to mow", the present participle is "mowing", the past tense "mowed", and the past participle is "mown". The present version of this sentence uses the present participle (mowing): "I am currently mowing the lawn" therefore, the past version of the sentence should use the past participle (mown): "I've already mown the lawn". 3. Using Woman as an adjective e.g. "She was the first woman astronaut" Technically the word "woman" shouldn't be used as an adjective to describe sex or gender, the word is only a noun. The correct word would be "female" which functions as both an adjective and a noun in different contexts. In this example the grammatically correct sentence would be "She was the first female astronaut" The word "female" when used as a noun most often refers to animals or plants instead of people, this means it can sound a bit sterile or rude when applied to a person. I think this is the reason this usage is technically incorrect but quite common.

everyone talking about phonetic errors but ive been told by japanese people that my phonetic is really good (because I speak spanish) but personally I cant make sentences, grammar is too hard for me and when I try to speak japanese is almost like I say words by themselves because I dpnt know jow to connect them with each other correctly lol

thank you

hahaha the friends of yours are really funny and quite used to your strangeness

if kawaii da yo is a mistake, then how about kawaii desu yo? i really often using that grammar and didn't know there is a rule like that 😆

やっぱりこのチャネルは日本語を勉強してる人に役に立ちますね。私も頑張ります。😗🤟

すげー！とても楽しい(だ🚫)よ！🤣 それを知りませんでした 🤭 新しい文法のルールを習いました！🙂👍 ひときさん、どうもありがとう！😁🙌

This tells us as long as your accent sounds native, and your word choice is native, even if you have some minor grammar mistakes, people may not notice it, and even if they notice your mistakes, and cuz your accent sounds so native, they might not think you are a non native speaker

教える方は　面白いし　簡単です　ありがとう　ございます😊

Thanks

つまりでね違法ですね - fell in love with that www

Aaaw that's scaredy cat level of noob grammar mistakes revolving around adjectives. You should have gone for: 好きます (Don't hit me for that, I actually saw someone using exactly that online. I wanted to scream at the girl "IT'S AN ADJECTIVE! YOU CAN'T USE VERB CONJUGATIONS FOR ADJECTIVES!")

i don't know that man you talked with on the phone, but his voice is attractive

笑笑　めっちゃおいしい!!!!!!! 何回見てもかわいいねぇ～って思う。もっともっとみたい😂😂😂

😂 very nice and funny video u awesome bro ❤️

I think we need to stop stressing out about correct or not correct.

Arkadaşına kendi ana dilini unutturdun,tebrik ederim Büyük bir basarı bu 😅

I wonder if this friend just always knows that Hitoki is going to mess with him when he calls lol

Grammar is important. However; when a native speaker learns their language, they do not learn grammar by the time they are "fluent". Their mom and dad aren't saying "ok, did you know that i comes before e, except after c!". One could argue that it just isn't natural. However; it is natural that one would learn grammar fluidly through massive amounts of input. Children are a great example of massive amounts of comprehensible input. One line of thinking is that adults can't learn like a child, which is correct in a way but not correct in another. It's incorrect to compare your language learning path to a child because most adults have life obligations (ie. house payment, car payment, school, a job etc) so as an adult we don't have the luxury of time to absorb massive amounts of input like a child does. On the other hand, adults have learned how to learn. Children can't understand abstract concepts and little nuances in language like an adult can. So where we lack time, we can make up for it in experience and age. In reality, adults have the capacity to learn much faster than a child the only thing holding adults back is discipline. There are no shortcuts to language acquisition. Videos on RU-vid about "how to learn faster" etc are gimmicks. The key is discipline. The person who studies 10 minutes a day EVERYDAY will always excel over the person who spends 2 hours a day 3 times a week but not EVERY week. 塵も積もれば、山となる。

It's pretty common for me to use 'bad' English as a joke. Very similar to this, actually. I'll say "funner" or "funnest" instead of "more fun" or "the most fun." Well, why not. It's clear what I mean and it takes less time; fun basically functions like an adjective anyways. No one even gives me any odd looks.

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