DO WIDER TIRES MATTER? - Farming Simulator 19 Test Video 

I've layed awake in bed for many sleepless nights pondering this question🤔. Thanks for taking the time to answer!

Narrow tires are for spraying and weeding so if you have crop destruction on so I think they make a difference for the designated job

Now you need to redo the test using the _Added Realism for Vehicles_ mod. Then you can expand on it to see what a difference horse power makes as well as tire width.

I have wondered about this dilemma myself. I know that wider tires seem to hamper agility and sometimes top speed can be reduced but it totally makes sense that it would improve pulling power. I honestly doubted that it would make any difference but these tests were setup very well with very little room for error. Fantastic content! Thank You! I wish good health, happiness and all the best to you and yours!

As simple as it is, I think one of my favorite parts about your videos is your intros. "If this is what you're looking for, please stay tuned". Wholesome

Great test I’ve always been curious if it makes a difference now I know haha also if you still have that test saved would be interesting to see if tracks instead of tires would make any difference either.

I really enjoy your 10 second intro description on all your videos, and then proceed to explain everything further. Thanks!

This was riveting ! Top Gear has nothing on you ! I swore by the dual rears until I sent it on a courseplay course for a delivery. * traffic …… off *

Good test, exactly what I was looking for. I like the fact that you are a cop by the way. My sister is a cop in MN. Super proud to be her brother and I appreciate cops.

I wasn’t as scientific but came to same conclusion. Was plowing and noticed wheel slip on a 500hp tractor so put duels on. The wheel slip pretty much gone and plowing speed increased substantially

Your commitment to the scientific method is the best thing about this video

Great test and It absolutely matters. I noticed it just doing field work, much better traction and stability with wider tires or especially doubles. Also if I am using a front loader on a tractor it is more stable. I done a test a while back to see if axle count matters with trucks and it totally did. I tried single, dual, and triple axle trucks. With some heavy loads the single axle would hardly move it. The weight would push the truck down far too low as it would in reality. Plus stability was better with more axles.

Very informative, thank you for making this video. I have laid in bed, unable to sleep, wondering about this very question. You have solved one of the worlds greatest mysteries. I thank you.

Very helpful video, I never got "tired" of watching this :D

The game doesnt model tire friction the way you would think it would. This is how the game models the tires. Different mods and different vehicles can and will have different settings. I do know there is a mod that actually models dynamic friction depending on weight, tires, center of mass, and terrain. Giants base game doesnt do that.

I didn't think tires actually made any difference beyond crop destruction, cool test. Would nice to see soil compaction from tires added into the game as a stock feature

I haven't went this extensive into it but I've known it makes a difference for quite a while by watching my operational speeds on my implements. Weight and tire setup does make a difference for certain. Also the actual distribution from one tractor to another makes a difference as well. For example, in a flat field the 7 series (352 hp) John Deere will actually pull the largest Great Plains seeder/planter with duals and 1500kg on the front better than the 8 series (450 hp) with the same setup. The 8 gets a little closer if you go up to 1800kg on the front but the 7 will keep that sucker locked at 9mph all day whereas behind the 8 the speed wobbles a bit. I figure it must be that the 7 has nearly the same weight in the tractor but in a tighter package so it can really tuck in and pull it. On hills though the 8 series superior hp wins out over the 7s and the seven gets dragged down more. It's not super realistic but there is definitely a light physics dynamic for it in the game. It's actually like reality lite. The tires themselves also add weight as irl as well and ballast weight works against you on the hills just like irl. Love these tests like this though! Super cool and leaves no doubt! Well thought out!

You should use the mod "added realism for vehicles" & correct 'filltypes mass adjust'. then you see the difference between smal, normal, wide & double tires. + also slippage indicator on the hud is nice, and extra weight is taken into account.

Next one you have to compare Tracks to Tires. Keep it up!

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Hey buddy just wanted to comment your editing and audio skills used in this video are on par with fellas with many more subscribers such a Mr Sealy P and dj goham and now this is just personal opinion I feel your better than FS club just to be honest

I think the GPS mod could have helped by keeping the tractor's in a straight line, you wouldn't need to have such a wide hill, and you'd get more accurate information because everyone tractor would take the same path

I tend to use standard or slight wide tires, just seems easier to drop off goods to factories/silos/pens etc. Double wheels etc do look nice tho on the huge fields =)

This is handy for the fellsbrun map, it's expensive but if it will plow, cultivate, and put faster the seeds. That should be a win senario in the long run. Could you do some test with tire treads or rups tires ?

Would've loved to see the tracks and floater tires too! Good vid

Very useful research! Thank you. You give me answers to all the questions I ever had about the game. =D

While working on the ground it matters if you use a cultivator and you have narrow tires you will slip and if you use wide or dubble you wont slip at all

I don't have FS2019 yet; I have FS2017. Hopefully the results are similar. Thanks for the video.

Something interesting that I found (kinda ran my own tests) using the JD 8R (8400 and the 410) wanted to see what had better traction, as well as what would destroy crops (narrows and tracks). Found that on the 8400 the trelleborg triple narrows did not destroy the crops, but the Michelin triple narrows did. So brand mattered, but may have been a glitch. Also, I have the added realism which is nice because it’ll show you the engine load (percentage of strain) and percentage of slip which was a great tool. Food for thought!

Try again with a single tractor and place a workshop so it can be reconfigured in-place. This allows you to save the game with it configured the first way and time it, then reload to the exact same track and position, change the tyres, do it again.

Before watching: In my experience there is a noticeable difference in traction with weights, wides, duals, etc. But it's really great to see some direct comparisons! I think the pulling to the side is caused by tire slippage; I don't have that problem as long as I have good traction, but I do have it when I'm pulling something right at the limit or something too heavy.

You didn't include wheel weights, they make a big difference

i missed the weighted tires test in there cuz if the physics are well made to the point where weights help gripping to the ground, you could see how well weighted wheels performs compared to weightless

Hi Farmer Cop It's always interesting watching your videos I enjoy them I also noticed the smaller the tires the more wheel slip you had I have found the fatter the ground it doesn't matter the size of the tractor or the implement do you just not going to operate at the right speed but they will work

Wide tires or double or triple tires have to do with weight distribution keeping you from tearing up your field or simply helps from sinking in the mud it spreads the weight out

This was so much fun to watch! And thx for doing this. It helps alot.

In real life thinner tyres usually work better as all the load is on a smaller area, big wide tyres although more area on the ground the weight is spread lightly over a larger area, a bit like high heal shoes compared to normal ones, they dig in. I remember getting stuck in my 4x4 with wide tyres and a small fiat panda passed me no problem.

You should check if adding front weights and wheel weights matter, recently found the channel, love it

Thanks this is great information as I’m currently playing on south Brazil map which is loaded with huge hills!

I've also wondered about Trellborg vs Michelin. Any difference? (I think the Michelin's are quieter on the road, but I've only tried them once.) I'm curious about wheel weights too.

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And *doesn't cross the finish line* "beats it"! *crosses finish line slightly later. Lol. Love the test though!

Now test different tyres when compacting silage pits

Using the puma and roughly 15 meter wide windrower, I can absolutely see a difference in tires. With narrow tires the tractor gets pushed into a jackknife by the implement, with wide tires and wheel weights, it does not.

On the Puma, Michelin tire option is for the super-wide harvester tires/monster truck tires (I have a fleet of Pumas in various configs, and that's one of them). Think there'd be any benefit there? Also, the wider overall setups do in fact make a difference in lateral stability. Tight turns at high speed will far more easily tip over a narrow overall track width.

It is also affected by the tyre type. I suggest mitas on John Deere’s

It’s should be added that narrow tires prevent crop destruction when driving onto fields

ok standart and wide are the same, but i still buy wide ones cuz they look way cooler

I waited so long for this video - thank you so much! :D

If you want to really experiment use a high horsepower tractor. You will have more tire slip. Then experiment with weight as well as tire size. Weight is everything on a tractor.

very interesting test... couple of things tho. do the front tractor wheels have power to turn like the rears? If not then i would think that dual tires in the front would not matter. if they do have power then, yeah, maybe front duals are a go. if you want to have a very steady course up the hill why not use guidance steering. that should alleviate any off track travel. just a thought

Awesome video! I want to see more tests like this! Keep it up Farmer Cop😎👍🏼

If crop destruction is on the narrow tires save them. Wider tires obviously destroy more.

Loved the test but my i say with the uphill and the Load. Your losing traction on front tires. Please add weights to front.

Great test thanks for doing it BUT can we therefore apply Duels for actually working on hills...... ploughing, planting, because their a pain for travelling on the road🤔😁

So the more tire you have, the more torque and grip you have 👍 that means you can speed up faster and climb hills faster

If you want to grind fast get the modded diesel pick up truck ( tuned one )and cultivate, it goes 26MPH while lowered 😂

The first test was well-made, but the second one is worthless due to your making it too short. Good to know that the tires do make a difference though!

I think the front smaller tires started “skipping” cause they didn’t have any weight on the front end of the tractors and once you put the extra tires, they kinda acted like a weight along with more traction

do we get to see the different feald and roads tested . plowed v harvested v grass

Does Switch give options like this? I know on my Switch version I can’t grow sugar cane.

the thin wheels slipped at the end

The snow test would of been perfect for the weight test

In Scarok car mod and yellow black 4x4 and red white 4x4 double tires are more unstable. Just for u know

That's a neat test. Thanks for sharing

11:48 "... whatever the Case might be."

I Need to do the same test on normal ground as u did on the snow bc maybe it would still be the same time so the snow doesn’t matter

You should test this with tracks as well

👍. A bit board are we. Lol. It would be interesting now to compare between the enhanced vehicle mod. The one we’re u can turn 4 wheel and diff locks on and off.

Do you wider tires matter when you’re not actually using the cultivator in the dirt or actually seeding in the dirt? Yes 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

Do wider tyres matter ? That depends....what colour are they ??

I don’t know about in game, but in real life, wider tires and tracks can be used to minimize compaction of the soil.

Narrow tires won't destroy the crops though I think that is why they're in the game

That's pretty conclusive, ,,duels for my autonomous harvester then

The most helpful video in youtube 👍

good know I have a reason to run duals in stead of just looking good.

Loved when the dual tire tractors hit the nitrous and bounce to 8mph haha... great test because I thought tires were just a look customization... would be interesting to see 1200 floaters lol they thick haha #StaySafe

They do make a difference with crop destruction. Narrow tires to harm the crops but any other tire does

So more tire equals more traction. How about you do a test in a field where you plant strips with different wheel setups and see if tire compaction has any effect on production?

Anyone else impressed by his ability to back up like that?

I think it would have been a more accurate test if you paired a tractor with the appropriate hp. You’re looking for wheel slip, not top speed. I’ve played with and without the realism mods and it’s been my experience that it really doesn’t matter which tires you equip in the base game. Case in point. I have a modded trailer that hauls 500,000l In the base game using the base articulated tractors it pulls it at half speed but without wheel slip using singles on any surface. Using rea mod... not that’s a different story altogether. Triple 710’s will get me stuck in a hurry. Love the methodology, thanks for the vid.

Lol my obsession with duels pays off

I find that it is not always a problem of power it is more of a problem of traction

Great video. Next you could do manufacturers of tires such as Michelin, trellborg, Mitas etc.

I always have Wides with Weights. Or if im on a big open map ill get some Twins for the back but never double twins! looks stupid to me idc if it works better 😅🤠🚜

im late to the show, as always. what your tests proove so far..is that a stock Case IH Puma cant pull a disc up a hill that requires 400hp - didnt need a test to proove that..its obvious. Giants well informed us well in advance upon releasing FS19..that the game its self was a basic version and the game is going to rely on heavy modification by use of third party Mods. meaning..eventually you will have to start using script modifications to get the best out of your game PER your PC capability. with that said here is a forum piece that shines more light on the tire subject. blakeg88as has the best explanation as of yet posted 2 years ago; as far as the game goes it really doesnt matter unless you run the crop destruction mod, then you should use narrow tires to avoid crop damage. the different tires in game are really just for looks or to simulate whatever style of farming you are going for. in real life however, your goals dictate what kinda rubber you wana run. the point of running wider/ or more tires is to increase traction while reducing compaction, this goes for tracks as well. this isnt a hard fast rule but a general rule of thumb, in north america you tend to see tractors running duals/ triples because the overal width of the tractor is less of a concern, in Europe however you will see tractors running single wider tires more often than duals, because it decreases the overall width of the tractor which helps in the more narrow roads and towns of Europe. tracks are kind of the best of both worlds with great traction and lower compaction but they are expensive and can lead to lower top speed.

You should’ve done tracks I want to see the difference between tire and tracks but thanks for doing this👍

Danke very much

Great video, thanks!

Its not because of the power you bought wider tires. Its because how much preasure to the ground. Lower preasure with wider tires

Thanks sooooooo much for the help!!!!!

This is useful for when I do mowing with my mf on hills of slovania

I found this curious that it actually worked the bigger/more tires you went. I wonder if differential mod has any play on it as well.

You need to go up the same spot like you did in the snow test for the cultivator test.

On flat ground would be nice to see like with the dual tires if you can run a slightly bigger plow subsoiler or cultivator that can work near or at working speed where with standard would run a bit slower and with a tractor with a loader would rear wheel weights help in lift capability

Throw a weight on the front and test again

I recommend wides. :)

the speed increase, is when they cross the steep climb, and the equipment get out of the ground.. where the first tracktors had a more even climg, so it was in the ground all the way.

Great questioned answered!

Do a similar test with the tires, but add weights. The weight should add traction as well.