The PRV DPS 2.8 is a nice DSP for sure. It's 2 input and 8 outputs. I like it because it has multiple remote outputs. So, it can turn on your amps when it has power. I seen it in action a couple years ago at Slamology and it performed well.
Good video but we the people would like to see more video on actual installation of DSP. Most ? Are how do you wire up DSP with stock radio or from LOC(line output converter). Step by step process . More newbies are watching your channel than any other .
Forgive my inquiry, but why would you make a hard cutoff for frequency handoff? Doing so leaves fidelity on the chopping block. Per your example (speaker frequency range considered), something more akin to acoustic nirvana would be represented as: 1Hz - 75hz (Subwoofers) 45hz - 650hz (Midbass) 400hz - 13khz (Midrange) 4khz & up (Tweeters) Sounds preform best when there's rolling transition from one to the other, much like when the baton is passed in Olympic Track races and the "receiver" has a running start... Your listing suggests upon getting the baton, the 2nd runner would be starting from a dead halt, which is hardly optimal. Additionally, this allows each speaker to fully perform how it's intended per its application. No offense meant, just trying to assist and explain.
@@RAW_Reality There is a rolling transition. For example, if my sub goes up to 50, and my midbass starts at 50 there is a very low Q so they blend together smoothly. If the Q was high, then it would be more sharp and less desired. Thank you for your awesome input though.
@@Bassotronics I guess my point is that there isn't a "blend", just a swap, like oil to water, whereas a blend would be more like one puzzle piece feeding into another. You're right about the point of not wanting a high Q, but that's typically expressed as the separation between frequencies not played, not as much so for overlapping ones. But I suppose I'm going by theory, as I've not heard/EQ'd a system that's processed and tuned as yours is.
@@RAW_Reality I’m not understanding the “oil and water” concept you are referring to when the sounds are blending like Red to Orange in a rainbow. I would understand if I’m trying to blend red and orange to make green which is not possible.
@@Bassotronics The "oil and water" analogy was meant to state that there's an actual separation between red and orange, like as if you're drawing with crayons. A real prismatic rainbow doesn't have "hard" separations between colors, instead having a gradual transition from one to the other. At the end of the day, as long as you're happy with it, that's all that really matters here. I was just trying to add in some perspective for those who might be curious about the subject from your original post. ✌🏻
The cap you show is the crossover (passive versus the amp or DSP units active - before the power crossover). Additional caps, coils (inductors) and resisters change the slope of the filter (how slow or fast the frequency falls off) They change the frequencies that are passed and can attenuate the actual output to better align it with the other drivers in the setup. Running passives and actives like you are doing is a form of a band pass crossover; it’s referred to as cascading the crossovers. DSP done correctly (mic'd up, using included software) WILL make the difference between a good sounding system and an incredible sounding system.
What’s nice is you can save like 10 full settings you yourself make for different playlists or moods your in. I have a Stetsom one that you can hook up 4 different amps to and I have another one I don’t use that can run 8 diff amps off of. Literally hours of fun/frustrating messing with settings
I run a helix mini and love it! Time alignment and 30+ source presets through the touchscreen Director remote. Lossless Bluetooth audio add on or wifi as options. Hook up your laptop to make adjustments or through wifi. Not cheap, but totally worth it! Sounds better in conjunction with my stock radio than any aftermarket headunit I’ve owned. And I’ve owned them all basically 👍🏻👍🏻
@nate0 I had a dm608 before this one and the helix is quite a bit better IMO. Nice warm sound and very deep bass. The bass augmentation is killer too. I hesitate to mention it anymore since some douche tried to say I was bragging because it cost almost a grand for the mini and it’s add ons. The remote is where they get ya @ $300. But it’s badass and the mini itself is the same price as the 608 approx.
@nate0 I hate my dqdx, it keeps adding ground noise. Changed ground 2 times, all ofc, wires no rcas near power, just don’t get why the dqdx is that way seen several complaints due to this
@nate0 I got stinger x3 rca cables so deff not From them, then have a kenwood excleon dmx706s head unit so don’t think it that, it didn’t start till dqdx was introduced, so I’m going to call audiocontrol tomorrow to see what they say. I’m about to throw it in the road ik that much, I agree on the noise part also. I’m thinking alternator may be on last leg also, I’ve ran it hard. Orion hcca 3000.1dsplx, ct sounds at125.4, secondary agm in the rear along with under hood. Plus it only A 90 amp Honda Fit alternator lol. That be taken care of along with lithium soon
100% same, I'm also trying to acquire a dsp currently... & that's soo weird huh... Idk if you thought same thing I did or whatnot(thought to myself hmmm that's strange, I watch all their videos and never seen anything DSP related whatsoever, then all of a sudden I decide 2 days ago that I want one and told myself that "I really, really do need it." And so that I should go and learn a little about them & how wiring goes... Then everyone started posting dsp content like wth 🤔
@@smetanavichlamanov8103 Becraft Aintloud posted a vid of him installing his PRV DSP 2 months ago. He has a killer system. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wLfNq2Lod6Y.html
Hey Parker, you didn’t actually set any crossovers. Yo set the parameters but left all of them at “off” on the “off” tab you can select the slope, and you have to select a slope in order for the crossover to actually activate. Maybe you did this off camera but if not, know that it wasn’t actually doing anything. Also on the amps you need to turn off crossovers and or set them to Full-Range.
Hello you seem very knowledgeable on this matter I have the same DSP and I have issues with setting the filters because there are so many. Can you help me out with this?
he didn't really show anything that a DSP can do, that a system without a DSP can't do. splitting can be done with a Y-cable (even tho DSP is a cleaner solution). crossovers for each channel can be done on most, if not all amps. turning off sound on channels doesn't even require a tool a DSP in a sound quality setup should be used to tune the sound in different frequencies, and if it's a good DSP, it should be possible to tune it to perfection, making the sound quality far better than it is without a DSP. proper DSP tuning requires a mic, otherwise it's pure guessing based on preferences and how you hear the sound, while the mic can measure each frequency with accurate data
I think deciding whether a dsp will make a big impact varies on the quality of music files it can handle and the control it gives you. I'm using a dm608 with the Bluetooth chip n though my headunit has similar features the dsp has more processor and DEFINITELY sounds better, also gives you a" bassknob" to control whatever channels you want with it
I have 2 15's in my trunk and one 15 in my back seat. They were cancelling out each other. When i changed the phase on the sub in my backseat I gained 25 db. I used to have PRV 2.8 which is the same thing with 2 additional channels. I stepped up toe the alpine PXE-0850 which has 31 bands of paramtetric EQ instead of 1 like these units. Eventually you'll want to upgrade.
If you have multiple subs in different locations you can probably get more output by using phase and time delay functions. These units don't have great signal to noise ratios but they are so cheap.
All I run is old school PPI and still sounds way better than the new school stuff,,,and people see my precision power sticker on my back window and want me to crank it, because they KNOW what it is....I love it!
Loved this video. Please keep doing a full range of car audio equipment videos bro please? Maybe even head units, more amps, wire, rca’s, how to install relays, more box building videos. Etc. keep up hard work
@@phenomfacemob1011that’s what I’m trying to figure out. I figured I can use this as an loc all in one worse case even if I don’t end up using the EQ settings lol
Any Pioneer head unit with smart sync for the cheap people like myself is the way to go. 32 band eq No need for this extra equipment save some $$$. Or if you want you can also go with the p80rs. I personally like my double din fhs52bt with a galaxy tab tablet as the main display. ✌🏽
I see guys on hear buying DSP with updated Touch screen radios like Kenwood/pioneer if your radio is updated . You should not need a A DSP that radio is well equipped with the technology to handle your systems need for Clarity!!! On Highs & Mids
They keep the dsp simple on aftermarket head units on purpose. More options to adjust is just more options to fuck. Most people don’t know how to correctly tune. Sure this taramps could have more but for the basic user it’s okay
@@ssjdavid most stereos do time alignment 31 band eq, crossovers, and input sensitivity, which is what most basic dsp have, with a spectrum analyzer mic your can basically tune it just like most lower end dsps
Awesome how-to video, I actually own this dsp but never got around to using it, mainly due to the nonexistent instructions that came with this - and so this video was definitely helpful - thx
That is not a DSP! One RCA input, really. A true DSP has 6 to 10 inputs and outputs, has high level, line level, coax and toslink inputs, you can sum the inputs into one output, has time delay, has phase shift of 180 degrees, has remote volume knob, has remote turn on, can start with signal sensing, and has high pass, low pass and bandpass settings, has 12 or 24 db slopes. WHAT YOU HAVE THERE IS MORE OF A CROSSOVER, NOT A DSP. CHEAP SHIT.
To oversimplify it... For each output, set your HPF and LPF surrounding the frequencies you want that driver (speaker) to have outputted to it. For example: If I wanted my door speakers to play everything above 70hz, I'd set the HPF at 80hz and the slope at -12, so the audible output of that slope would begin in the 70s, and not setting a LPF so it plays everything above that. For your equalizer, imagine a 🐫's back, only not as peaky. The middle "valley" being around 1000hz (1k). From there, tune individually to your ear's pleasure, but that's a good basis of representation on how music should be heard.
Taramps lets you run up to 6 amps. To do so lets say you have a sub,mid,drive and tweeter all running on its own amp. For all you can run an adapter that converts your dual RCA to a single RCA thats how you run only on one channel
These things have low voltage coming out of the RCA outputs. I've been battling with my MARTS dsp for a while because it causes a hiss in my system unless I turn down the master gain. Which kills the RCA output voltage down to below 1 volt.
HELP!! MY HIGH LEVEL INPUT AINT WORKING? is thier a SETTING in the MENU? rn im using my OLD ragged LOC thats total shit and im really wanting to BUY ANOTHER one before i mess up my Super Expensive Q Series L7
Easy answer. YES! If you want to get the most out your system for maximum listening potential. Now if you want a system that just sounds good enough to enjoy, then NO you don't really need DSP.
Quick question. I have two amps, one for my sub and another amp with 4 Chanel’s (Front and Rear speakers). If my front speakers are component speakers(speaker/tweeter) what output should I pick from the DSP. Mid or High’s. Definitely not sub output😂
6:22 Just got this DSP today. Unfortunately the crossover wasn't even used in this video because where it says "off" is where you select your filter type (linkwitz or butterworth). When it's set to off it's off completely. Thanks.
@@electriclightbulb1232 what do you have your sub channel and mid channel set to? If I have only one mid amp do I tune for the mids and let the crossover on the tweeter filter out?
I don’t have a head unit either but I have some nice amps that have lpf hpf I’m so confused that’s the difference between just tuning it on my amp lol unless it’s a dsp with a mic built in
I hope you have used that to Eq the sound and not just as a crossover. So many average speakers systems could be transformed with DSP into nice systems
yeah I run my mids and highs separately with my bedroom stereo system my speakers work perfectly when I do that yeah the speakers can’t work without running separately
Here’s a cool fact: Mazda 3s (gen3 atleast) have a digital sound processor built in it’s the USB phone charger port and the music it outputs sounds incredible if you guys don’t understand let me know and I’ll make a private vid and send you the link
Great review Parker!! You know if you can reach out to taramps it might be cool to have another model available with a rca out so you can hook up multiple crossovers if you have a lot of amps. 👍👍
PRV 2.8 is the exact same thing with 2 additional channels. Eventually you'll want something with more bands of parametric EQ. These only have 1 input and then 1 output per channel. More expensive dsp's have 31 bands per channel
If anyone who wants a DSP please get one with Bluetooth so you can adjust it with your phone it's way easier. I have both types in my 2 cars, one DSP you can hook up to a laptop, and the other DSP has Bluetooth which you can adjust with your phone. I like the Bluetooth version because I don't have to lug a laptop back and forth.
With the noise it might be as simple as the RCA’s are to close to a power source, lets positive wire is close to RCA. You might have to a ground loop or ground the processors, or even a name brand amp. Nothing against taramp but i had noise coming thru my stock unit, i was using a cheap amp in my highs, it went away when i put the skar 4 channel. So it might be as simple as running a good amp
That unit be better with taramp amps cause using a single rca cable would give you 6 channels or use a rca splitter to use all 6 Chanel’s or your stuck using it with 3 amps in stereo. If using Korean or amps with both rca hookup tAramps has the 4 channel model probably be a better option.
I have an old clarion 6 band equalizer in my truck looks like this has a few more features but would I gain anything really having this processor compared to a eq or they kinda do the same thing ?
Doesn't the head unit do most of this? I can set SUB and speaker crossovers on my cheap $60 pioneer head unit. And if you did a speaker/sub amp combo each of those have their own crossovers as well right? DSPs don't seem worth it to me.
This is for stock head units that have literally nothing included. Don’t expect much for sub $100 if you want a real dsp that’s $500 but I heard this ain’t bad I’ll report back in a week
Considering getting one of these. One question if I may...... Would it work to run an rca signal out of this unit back up to the bass knob at drivers seat then back to my amp? I don't wanna give up my bass knob. Thanks!
Hey Parker i know you have alot on your plate but maybe just maybe you could do a short video on what exactly us beginners can do or use with our stock battery and alts to help our electrical system? I recently got a nice system in my eyes but cannot get anything out of it due to my electrical system being to weak. I dont have the money for a high output alternator or a battery big as my subwoofer just didnt know if there was any cheap alternatives or tricks maybe that i could do to get a little extra juice, again im sorry i know your busy but maybe if you had some time or thinking of a video idea it would help me and im sure some of us beginners with limited budgets out alot. As always love the content keep up the good work man!
I'm in the process of purchasing a good DSP because my car a 2018 honda accord with premium sound system, and the head unit does a lot of bad things to the sound, So I need something not sure what to get yet. any recommendations?
I need some advice I have six rockford fosgate p3 12s and was wondering what would be a good bass amp for my subs?? I'm looking to spend $400 to $600. I have a 320 amp alternator extra battery and 0 gauge wire.
So its basically a cross over w an band eq and each rca has its own settings 🤔...tho I'm more intrigued on how it work w a factory hu setup w subs and rca line converter as my wife's car is line converter setup and my other 2 rides all aftermarket
Also there is “Routing” being that you can make each output be fed from either the left input or the right input or mixed L&R, these are actually very good and basic DSP’s that are very popular in the “Voceteo” community 👍🏼 Stetsom, Experts, PRV, DS18, And Taramps make these types of DSP, which are more handy for the diy being that you don’t need a laptop to program them. Fyi “Experts PX2 DSP” is also Bluetooth compatible, and allows you to make any and every adjustment via bluetooth and a App. Very handy. Hope this helps. 👍🏼
hey Parker The Bass head your mids and highs is running separately but how do you calibrate the mids and highs so the mids and highs is working togerther?
I that the number one thing is to get a electronic crossover for mid- high I'v been told that in the 80's this is why car's don't sound right 🤔⁉️ Fosgate power series 1
I have one of these, and my problem is I can't figure out where to mount it so that it's accessible and I can change things on the fly without having to crawl into the back seats. I'm very very open to suggestions cuz it's super annoying. I'd like to be able to change settings on the fly, test, tune, all that fun stuff
