Do you need a Red Winches RR30 Bearing Ring? 

Not been to your channel in a while, but just wanted to say I am glad you are still going.. Keep up the great work..

Excellent work and description of results in the video.

Well done Robert; thank you.

Someone finally made my idea come to life.

Great information here. When I first saw a snatch ring demonstrated by bleepin jeep a few years back n they talked about the friction on the soft shackle I was like well it shouldn't be that hard to have one with a bearing in it. This is the first I've seen of one with a bearing n yeah I can see that one is huge in comparison n like you said it would only really be advantageous in a large rig. I'd also like to point out that snatch rings are what first brought me to your channel when you did comparisons between brands n broke down how to use them n identify what is a quality one n what isn't

Thanks Bud! Very informative!

great stuff , good laymans language

I almost would prefer the more weight, because if anything breaks, it won’t fly as far, not that synthetic ropes throw things that far

off topic: front winch used to winch back wards. Great info on forces and set up. BUT for those of use who are mechanically challenged ( dumb). could you demonstrate the travel of the rope. How much does the front rope travel in comparison to the double attachment rope at the back.

I made a comment on someone's video of the snatch ring awhile back (probably within the last few years) concerning the fact that it was overpriced considering what was necessary to make it and that for that price, I would expect something with an inner ring and a bearing. I was thinking that axle bearings are not that expensive, so it could be done relatively cheaply. Looks like someone did it, although most definitely not cheaply...

Sweet, do they make smaller ones?

Robert, your Videos are fantastic. Very informative and well structured. Can I buy the ring in europe too?

Thanks, Robert. I do wish, however, that you had included a cost comparison. Also, does the Bearing Ring have sealed bearings? A comparison might include use in mud. Is the Bearing Ring going to rust internally? How easy is it to clean or clear if debris clogs it? I like your lessons and comparisons, and have learned valuable facts, 1but need real-world info before I spend my money.

As usual another great posting. Solid sensible analysis and comments. Very nice looking bit of gear but why wouldn't I just go back to the old steel snatch block given the very significant weight saving of the alloy snatch ring is blown away?

Let's talk about how you are calculating your mechanical advantage after losses. I figure you're doing the following 2 / (1 * (1 + (2 * Efficiency))). I would propose that the calculation should be 2 / (1 * (1 + (Efficiency))). The anchor load is going to equal the load on the vehicle so the net mechanical advantage is going to be the anchor load divided by the winch output load, which is just your measured line load in the setup. The snatch ring losses show up as a reduction in line load going back to the vehicle (not measured) but those total losses still show up in the net measurement of the anchor load. I don't think there's any reason to double the % efficiency in order to find the final mechanical advantage. To summarize, the anchor load equals winch out line load plus winch return line load (which is smaller due to losses). Both of these tensile forces are acting equal and opposite against the vehicle and the anchor meaning the final mechanical advantage is just the ratio of your anchor load to winch output load. Have you covered your method in a video so I can follow your process? This all would mean the block, bearing ring, ring, and shackle mechanical advantages are actually 1.91, 1.88, 1.86, and 1.69 respectively.

I wonder if you get sand ,mud etc .if it would fail.

We don't give a crap with load counts either, just the best snatch block

$900 for the two is too much for what I do

My opinion when you are using solutions more or less built for jerk and snatch pulling you are defeating the purpose of the actual test.. something with weight tolerance of 4.5-7.2 ton or 4,500-7.200 kg as static weight load 9-13.5 ton 14.4-21.6 ton breaking on the cable ... noting i know of in synthetic ropes would rated for double to triple body mass of the vehicle whether you're pulling yourself out of bog hole winching your sorry arse up 25-35% incline understand what actual breaking strain on the cable you use has before using it Looking at the stretch flex in the entire you are only rated 1/3 of capacity in weight rating high poundage in weight can be very misleading when under constant load vs snatch 3-10 second exert force 1 will last a number of tugs and a number of outings..vs the reality of constant replacement after each trip the bush bashing you do... you know dead concept of a human being is???? do you also understand how this applies to motor vehicle and especially to 4x4-8x8 in a recovery process?????