DO YOU NEED DSP? Audient iD14mkii VS Apollo Twin

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Do you need DSP on an audio interface? A comparison of the differences between these two, Best-In-Class Audio Interfaces: The $299 Audient iD14mkii VS the $999 Universal Audio Apollo Twin Duo.
What are the differences between the new id14mkii and the Apollo Twin? How do they sound? How do they perform? Find out in this, the ultimate audio interface comparison, featuring a converter test and all the info you need to know about the Apollo Twin Unison preamps and monitoring system.
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0:00 Audient iD14mkii VS Universal Audio Apollo Twin
1:00 Answering Your Questions
1:39 Desktop Functionality
2:42 DI Input Comparison
3:25 DI Input Audio
4:14 Unison Preamps
4:49 Which Preamps are Noiser at Full Gain?
5:10 Can These Devices Power an SM7b?
6:11 Preamp Audio Comparison
6:54 Advanced Monitoring
7:49 Can You Bypass The Preamps?
8:26 Headphone Amplifiers
8:58 Do USB-A or UAB-C Cables Affect the Headphone Amplifier?
11:13 Mixing Apps & Apollo DSP
12:35 Expandability
13:35 Converter Comparison Test
16:55 Analysis
17:23 Outtake
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@EdThorne 3 года назад

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@milankotevski1663 Год назад

I don't know about mic preamps, but I can confidently say that Audient id's instrument input is on par with some way more expensive audio interfaces. I've personally tested it against an 1500$ Apogee interface, and it's just as musical, and good sounding. It's crazy, but true.

@angrybalkon1471 7 месяцев назад

Looking for an audio interface. The main task is to record an electric guitar. I'm looking at the id4 mk ii, but a friend recommends rme Baby Face pro. In your opinion, does it make sense to overpay for rme? will I hear the difference? Thank you

@vp5209 11 месяцев назад

That 100 roundtrip test is insane! It multiplies the subtle differences and shows what’s actually is going on. Hope to see more of those on your channel

@KacyDennis 3 года назад

Very well done comparison. And thank you for taking all the time to do the 100 round-trip conversion/preamp test.

@EdThorne 3 года назад

You’re very welcome. Thanks for watching 🙂

@davidf8749 3 года назад

Thorough, no-nonsense review. Only recently found this channel. Really liked the idea of putting the audio through 100x to highlight any converter degradation which wouldn't have been noticeable on one pass. You put a shed-load of work into this. 👍

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Thanks, David. It was a lot of work but if people find it useful then it’s worthwhile 🙂

@jaovao Год назад

The question is in which situation would you record your audio this way?! 😂

@perrunarkrogster4974 Год назад

@@jaovao That’s not the point og the test.

@modernmusicstudio303 3 года назад

Very thorough comparison! Thanks for a great video! I really appreciate how you went through every feature on both!

@EdThorne 3 года назад

You’re welcome. Thanks for watching 🙂

@kumarlotus 2 года назад

The amount of work and editing you is huge. This is the video I was looking for. Thanks alot brother 😊.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Thanks for appreciating 😊🙏

@martinoplaya7805 2 года назад

absolutely crazy review, so much work put in. now I wanna get both products 😝🥂

@EdThorne 2 года назад

It was a LOT of work. But worth it for people I hope 🙂🤘

@onetwo3088 3 года назад

Absolutely great review!

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Thank you 🙂🙏

@theguitarclubonline 2 года назад

I just upgraded to the id44 mkii from the orginal Apollo Twin. My god! the difference is massive! Great video! Thank You ! : )

@Astro-by8gf 2 года назад

im going do the same i have a question converter wise is it a big sound difference ?? between the to

@theguitarclubonline 2 года назад

@@Astro-by8gf To my ears clarity of Audient is a standout and stereo width is bigger. Apollo still great though. At the end of the day it's all about the music. : )

@Astro-by8gf 2 года назад

@@theguitarclubonline appreciate the reply bro

@mikep6967 2 года назад

The recorded audio x100 test is a real testament to you effort as a reviewer. I absolutely subbed. Bravo sir. 👍🏻

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Thanks, Michael 😊🙏

@FUUUUU1111 2 года назад

yeah what a real life scenario...

@kenzorwings Год назад

You and Julian do the best things,tricks and tips for the studio gears! Respect for both!

@EdThorne Год назад

Thanks, Kenzor. 🙏

@kenzorwings Год назад

@@EdThorne This is the reality! You're very welcome like always! 🙏

@kenzorwings 5 месяцев назад

@@EdThorneAfter a year of purchasing an apollo solo usb I can say that it's a great interface even if it doesn't have enough dsp on the console or in the mix, but since with native I can say that it's better. I am satisfied with both it and the plugins, but I wanted it to work on mac as well. In the future I have to get at least a quad satellite. I think that for more versatility and a workflow without limitations, I have to buy an id14 mkii...

@AlexeySolovievMusic 3 года назад

Super awesome video bro! You are the best! 😀👍🔥🔥🔥

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Thanks Alexey. This one took a whike

@ddandrade 3 года назад

This is such a great review! Loving the Audient !

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Thanks maaaate! The audient is awesome. So good for the money.

@edvard-egilsson 3 года назад

Great information here, thank you!

@EdThorne 3 года назад

You’re welcome. I’m glad it was helpful 🙂

@juanreales986 3 года назад

Great vid! Thanks a lot man!

@EdThorne 3 года назад

You are very welcome, thanks for watching :-)

@JayTheLane 2 года назад

Great video comparison. This channel will grow.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Thanks, Jay! Appreciated!

@unstoppablemotivation777 2 года назад

Thank you! Amazing stuff. I had so much problems on the Apollo Twin X. I just returned it yesterday. It just was not good for my new Mac M1. Im going to get this one!

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Ah, I’m sorry to hear that. It’s a convoluted install method on M1s. I had to do it twice it get it to work. The Audient is much easier to navigate and still great 🙂

@unstoppablemotivation777 2 года назад

@@EdThorne yessir I look forward to it! Thanks for msg

@uniquetune0101 2 года назад

What a review !! GREAT :-)

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Glad you liked it 🙂

@jasonjohnson3577 2 года назад

Excellent, Ed!

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Glad you liked it!

@MaidenOfMusic Год назад

I'm currently in the market for a new interface, mainly for mixing clients' music, and the audio quality difference between the Apollo and Audient is almost imperceptible. I think I'll get the Audient and use the extra money to further improve the acoustic treatment in my room and tuning my monitoring system.

@KingK3ksLP Год назад

Smart move

@saxyrep1 Год назад

That's wise.

@isaacpezo7206 3 года назад

What a review!! this is gold! Im going to get the ID14 mk2. Thanks for your perfect speak english, im a Latin american person and your pronunciation make it very easy.

@jonathanlp64 3 года назад

¡Saludos cordiales! Disculpe la pregunta pero ¿de qué país es usted? Justo tengo una iD14 MKII a la venta y esta completamente nueva por si se encuentra interesado

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Thank you, Isaac. I’m glad it’s helpful 🙂

@isaacpezo7206 3 года назад

@@jonathanlp64 Chile!

@jonathanlp64 3 года назад

@@isaacpezo7206 Oh comprendo... Soy de Guatemala

@HarvinderSingh-yy8th 2 года назад

True very clear and understandable English.

@GranulatedStuff 2 года назад

I'm glad you mentioned the phase shift on the x100 Audient. It made me wince.

@marcelovins Год назад

its great, man!

@YajsiabGaming Год назад

After one year used Audient iD14mkii. I am very satisfied with this product but I want to try Apollo Twin too!

@elkingofficielchannel5265 4 месяца назад

Which is good now ?

@ididots 3 года назад

Awesome review with great production values. The only thing missing is a test of the Apollo headphone output. Rumor has it that it’s too weak to drive 250 ohm headphones and above. I know the Audient can deliver in that department (both via USB3 or the old generation w/ external power supply), but the Apollo Solo/Twin headphone output seems almost like a taboo topic with very few online discussions and no real consensus. I’d hate unboxing a premium interface only to find it barely audible in my BD DT-880 250 ohms, especially knowing the Audient can handle it.

@EdThorne 3 года назад

My comparison of the headphone outputs is at 8:26 in the video. There's very little difference and both can handle high impedance headphones well, although you will need most, if not all of the output. The Apollo headphone is not affected by thunderbolt power transfer because it is mains power supplied, so there's no need to do that test.

@jpm_drums 2 года назад

I can drive my 300 ohm HD650's

@dunar6772 2 года назад

Also nice the Austrian Audio OC818 pair ... Thank you for your review.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Beautiful mics! Thanks for watching 🙂

@trevfisher 2 года назад

When putting my latest studio together I could have afforded either of these. I chose Audient iD44. Similar sound quality, I was a bit shocked when I heard the dullness of both on the 100 times recording test, this should not put anyone off these devices. I actually preferred the sound of the Audient and it's a joy to use, doesn't try to lock me into a closed system plugin business model and is clearly head and shoulders above everything else in its price range and several hundred dollars more. The next step up from the Audient is not an Apollo or an RME, a step up from this interface is many thousands more, I believe the iD44 and the iD4 Mkii (which has very similar specs) are in the same bracket of quality of the Apollo and RME's but cost drastically less money. I paired mine with an ASP 800 and will eventually buy an ASP 880 to go with it. How good is this brand? I spend zero time worrying about upgrading my interfaces and won't unless I have several thousands (maybe tens of thousands) dollars spare. UAD seem to attract the same sort of fanboy loyalty that Apple computers do and I understand that, but the onboard DSP ain't a thing any more now the Mac M1 eats heavy plugins cross hundreds of tracks for breakfast. The Audients are not a step down in quality, check out Julian Kraus' bench testing. I can't wait for him to get the new UAD interfaces on his desk,I think we're in for a surprise, not in a good way. Pay close attention to the dynamic range in and out of the Volt. I love your work Ed and I hope you don't mind a fellow northerner putting his 2 penneth in.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Thanks, Trevor. Yeh the Audient stuff is great. I’m using two 880s for drum pres. the Apollo system isn’t necessarily a closed Universe but it is an expensive system I agree. Personally, I think it’s unrivalled in terms of functionality. Julian Krause’s review of the Volts will be interesting for sure. I believe I have a review unit arriving soon. PS, always good to hear from a fellow northerner. 🥳

@HarvinderSingh-yy8th 2 года назад

Audient interfaces are Industry recommended interfaces. So what's more.

@Mope333 2 года назад

@@HarvinderSingh-yy8th Well so is the competition lol

@lndndr18 3 года назад

Test aside, the guitar on the converter comparison sounds amazing wow

@EdThorne 3 года назад

That’s David D’Andrade on guitar (check out his Insta). You can hear the full track here: open.spotify.com/album/3WZWJfHlOkTDy9faRObW8j?si=02FUnYzVR8atC0PBXpB6SQ&dl_branch=1

@h1de 3 года назад

This dude on the RU-vid machine said I needed an Apollo to win a Grammy 🤣 so I'm gonna order the Audient.

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Which dude told you that? 😉

@Hrmnbeats 2 года назад

I have also seen that video. 5 things you need for home studio to win a grammy.

@Hrmnbeats 2 года назад

😂😂😂

@gutenberg117 2 года назад

@@EdThorne ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-10JpbHTWt8U.html

@gutenberg117 2 года назад

@@EdThorne and response : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aN1kfdik3cw.html

@gotyor 11 месяцев назад

I owned a studio in 90's and would make a good profit take out enough to pay bills and put the rest back into studio to keep competitive. So when plugins came about I got off the hardware train as soon as possible. And you nailed it with the comment about how skill set matters more than anything. Just master what plugins you have. With the amount you save on buying 1 piece of hardware you can buy most all the best vst plugins you will ever need. ( if you buy them on sale)

@LeonRikalo 3 года назад

Thats the funniest pronunciation of my name hahah😁 Thank you for comparing di inputs. Great review as always ☺️👍

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Aaah, I’m sorry, Leon, forgive me. Thanks for the question. How should it be pronounced phonetically?

@LeonRikalo 3 года назад

@@EdThorne its not wrong it just sounds funny to me😁. Im from Croatia and we dont speak English here so I dont hear english version of my name that much often. Dont worry about it ❤️😁.

@EdThorne 3 года назад

@@LeonRikalo Haha, ok. 🙂

@SirDolittle 2 года назад

Interresting how the apollo smoothes out the harsh signature of the music in the loopback test...the audient sounds very kitchen radio like, but the apollo adds a nice pillow effect. I actually prefer the apollo loopback to the mastered file, as it has way more soul and makes it sound much more interresting. Maybe 30-50 passes would make a good compromise of fidelity and vibe?

@EdThorne 2 года назад

This was 50 (or 100 passes, I can’t remember).

@paweplinta1565 3 года назад

Thanks for checking what I asked. Now, I can see it clearly, I should buy an apollo and an audient. Greetings!

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Thanks for the good question. I hope I pronounced your name correctly, forgive me if I didn’t 🙂

@paweplinta1565 3 года назад

@@EdThorne Perfect. Thank you!

@-LSTR- 6 месяцев назад

I think I need this, thanks

@marcoselmalo4470 3 года назад

Great job!!! I have my audient in home. Maybe I check the new generation of Apollos

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Thanks, Marcos. I hope I pronounced your name correctly, please forgive me if I didn’t 🙂

@marcoselmalo4470 3 года назад

@@EdThorne perfect pronunciation. Don't worry. Greetings from Spain

@IntheDAW 2 года назад

Wow the loop playback was very surprising.

@trevorhayden5288 2 года назад

Thank you very much...

@EdThorne 2 года назад

You’re welcome. I hope it was helpful.

@RTM97701 2 года назад

Secret to bypassing the preamp is xlr to trs cable and choose line in rather than mic on channel

@amonchhetri1053 Год назад

really?stil it will pass on to the pre circuit is what they say..

@handsdown5x 3 года назад

Almost a $600 difference for a Similar sound ! I’ll go with the Audient !!!

@lastWhiteKingdom 3 года назад

The preamp quality is almost the same on all audio interface currently. But the apollo is not only an audio interface it is mainly a power full DSP which handle in real time many power full plug ins. If you are not interest by UAD plugin for sure you better keep your money. But check the quality of the Bass amp or Guitar or reverb uad plug in, it can change your mind.

@nayuki2020 3 года назад

I'd say save up $1000 more and go for the apollo. It's more of an eco system than just an audio interface.

@seadffsa 3 года назад

ahh but if you're a vocalist you'd be missing out on the most amazing feedback of your life. real time autotuning and mixing is heavenly

@reddeadryan78 2 года назад

The Apollo is much better. Don't be fooled

@handsdown5x 2 года назад

I don’t use plugins . I use external for everything . I just believe the real deal sounds better than plug ins for my opinion. So I rather go for the Audient

@SuspiciousSalad 3 года назад

Just ordered the MKii yesterday (:

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Nice. You won’t be disappointed.

@fhdrums4872 3 года назад

Excelente...más vídeos ilustrativos en español.... Gracias

@MarcNevali 2 года назад

The specs on the chart are wrong Mic input dyn range: - Apollo = 118 db - audient =113 db Mic input Noise - Apollo = - 127 db - audient = - 129 db With Apollo you basically pay the software and the DSP capabilities.. But there is not much difference in the Hardware compartment.. Thanks for the video, well done

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Double check the labelling on the chart👌 (Also check which models you/I am referring to)

@petteriluukkonen3140 2 года назад

I noticed the same thing. Something wrong about those specs. Audient ID14 MK2: Mic input dynamic range is 113,1 dBu (J. Krause...), no 101 dBu as Ed said. But otherwise good info.

@sbbperson 2 года назад

this video is great

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Thanks. I hope it’s helpful.

@stevenz228 2 года назад

very very good video！thank you～

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Thanks, Steven!

@charlesbassiste 3 года назад

Amazing review Ed, thanks A LOT! Was just thinking of selling my apollo twin for an ID14... But after this I think I'll keep my apollo. Thanks for the guitar and bass recordings to compare !

@EdThorne 3 года назад

You’re welcome, thanks for watching. The Audient is very reasonably priced so you could get one and have the best to both worlds 🙂

@charlesbassiste 3 года назад

By the way, I think your specs are wrong Ed. The preamp dynamic range of the Audient isn't 101dB, that's SNR signal to noise ratio.

@EdThorne 3 года назад

@@charlesbassiste I’d say I’d double check and amend it... but I can’t 🤣 I’ll check and out a footnote in the description though. Thanks.

@charlesbassiste 3 года назад

@@EdThorne yeah I understand the pain of editing a video... However, these technical specs are always tricky to decode !

@HarvinderSingh-yy8th 2 года назад

For guitar buy cheap and best TASCAM celesonic 20*20HF. Watch ED'S review.

@MarcellVeldt 2 года назад

I ordered my audient id14 mk2 and after watching this video I think it was a great choice. Obviously Apollo is better but it's not necessary in your home studio. It's such a great alternative! I'm a little shocked how fast technology is going forward. Thanks Ed for you comparison. It was really helpful. Greetings from Poland! 😁

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Hi Marcell, the iD14mkii is a great interface! A sound choice and investment. Thanks for watching 🙂🙏

@HarvinderSingh-yy8th 2 года назад

Audient interfaces are Industry recommended. So you went right

@Mope333 2 года назад

@putalawea equisde you can make 20K a year and get that lol

@insertanynameyouwant5311 2 года назад

do you still use it with no problems? I want to get ID4 as I don't need more channels, but I`ve heard many people having different malfunctioning problems with Audient line and bad technical support

@deans.4705 2 года назад

Had an apollo but purchased an id44 later. I prefer the warmness that the mic pres add. That is confirmed in the 100x loop test here which would never represent real world situations. As well, I wouldn't ever describe it as signal degradation as the Audient pres are well known to add warm color which is something some people look for on a recording. I found the uad sterile without adding a unison pre. Uad is a money sink when adding proprietary plugs so i jumped ship. All in all, they are both great though. The comparison here is a little misleading. You can't really compare pricing as outlined as you will be spending much more on the uad for plugins to fill out its capabilities. The audient is a basic soundcard without the added expense. Great video. I did bounce back and forth between 15:50 and 16:30 and there really isn't that much a difference in sound between the 100 pass tests. To me at least. The audient really is a lot of bang for the buck.

@arupsircar4855 Год назад

Absolutely ! would certainly prefer id 14 mk2..a bang for the buck..

@cmb8240 10 месяцев назад

Excellent

@jasonscoggins01 6 месяцев назад

Thank you

@cesargonzalezbueno3359 2 года назад

I didn't perceive a huge sound quality difference between these two contenders. Either one will do the job.

@Mope333 2 года назад

I think that’s the point, Apollo Twin only cost more because of DSP and Functionalities + it’s an Apple device lol, so you know how that go but sound quality is about the same

@FelixMolano 3 года назад

Why haven't I hot the bell yet? Hitting the bell now. Ding Dong. Tinnitus here. lol

@theexile1155 3 года назад

You were predestined to be different(Romans 8:29), he who has an ear to hear, let him hear(Mark 4:9). HALLELUYAH!(PRAISE YE YAH!)

@godfreyassenga9958 Год назад

I could perceive the depth of the Apollo on the bass guitar test- more depth than the Audient, maybe not a deal breaker but if you listen close enough, you might hear- or rather, feel it.

@PalEllingsen 9 месяцев назад

Yeah, and the bus processed drums had much much clearer high end with the Apollo. You could really hear the hi hat come alive, as the audient sounded a bit more dead and sterile in the hi Department. Imo.

@ekkasmusic Год назад

Thanks ....

@EdThorne Год назад

You’re welcome 🙂🤘

@7AKV7 2 года назад

I have ID14 mk ll and it's amazing. Looked through the whole RU-vid to choose the best interface and didn't missed.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Good choice 🙂👌

@jensenames Год назад

Thank you! iD4 or 14 is the best one for price!

@EdThorne Год назад

Go by how many inputs/outputs you need over price.

@jensenames Год назад

@@EdThorne sure thing 😊

@lazyrobotlabs Год назад

Honestly the only way I could see myself going up from my Audient ID14MKII would be to go to an Appolo system - but that's not something I can justify until music is my day job and not my night job

@pinnacleren4389 2 года назад

When using Ableton Live 11, will the Apollo leverage the onboard DSPs for processing Ableton virtual instruments and plugins or are the DSPs only limited to processing UAD plugins? Thank you.

@ChannelForty2 2 года назад

I've been trying to decide what interface I want and well, I just can't find any reason not to pull the trigger on the id14. It's perfect for what I need and the price is right. Maybe someday if I win the lottery or something I'll switch to a UA environment. Lol

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Hi Kevin, the iD14 is my fave under $300 (alongside the Volt). The iD monitor app, assignable iD button, and ADAT expandability make it a highly functional interface!

@accentontheoff 2 года назад

What do you think about Antelope. They also have onboard plugins i believe. Thanks for the excellent video.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

I think the ZenGo is a fantastic interface, and serious competition for both of these devices. The preamps are probably cleaner, and the converters are very clean and detailed. You can use more plugins on each channel strip with the Antelope over the Apollo because their plugins are less DSP intensive when used as inserts. The Apollo has Unison technology which physically re-configures the impedance and gain staging of the preamps to replicate the analog hardware they're emulating - and it does this very well! The Apollo is still more advanced in terms of monitoring (although the Antelope is probably the second most advanced system I've seen), but the ZenGo allows you to record a wet and dry copy of each input channel which is awesome! I may do a full comparison video on all this.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

@BillyFreethought See here 🙂 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MV9Gz8m7hUc.html

@3nine2_edition 2 года назад

💯🔥🔥🔥

@Fistful0fSteel Год назад

Seems like 2 Hi-Z inputs of Interfaces like the Focusrite 2i2 is quite the killer feature for some. I don't want to go back to only having 1...

@f5770 3 года назад

Beautiful professional review, well edited and great audio and video quality! Good job man! Just a technical question regarding the dynamic range: On Apollo solo user manual I find 118db of dynamic range for mic input and line in, on page 250, in the video the DR is higher than that. Old version of my user manual? For the Audient id14mkii the user manual has only the SNR of 100db that I don't know if for a preamp it is equal to the dynamic range measurements, generally are quite the same thing, only the gain of the signal used for the measurements is different, but for mics it isn't for example, but I am not an expert. By the way there is no doubt about the more quality of apollo's inputs and converters, also considering that, probably, under 300 bucks it's very difficult to get better preamps and converters. But it is impressive how the Audient is not so far from the Apollo in the recording comparisons. Probably for professional use the Id14mkii could be more than acceptable at the beginning without a big budget. Thank you very much

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Thank you for the kind words Fp, I’m glad you liked the video 🙂 The Apollo Solo has slightly different converters to the Twins and the rack units. The Audient pres are great, it’s a fantastic value for money interface. The differences are very small but they are there if you listen very closely.

@f5770 3 года назад

@@EdThorne Sorry, you are right, the apollo twin is better than the solo on converters and inputs. Yeah I noticed the difference between the two (Apollo twin and id14mkii), if I had to consider to use that budget, I would have no doubt about the choice. In this case, this Audient convinced me a lot!

@HarvinderSingh-yy8th 2 года назад

Audient is industry recommended.

@randomname2914 3 года назад

It wasnt a rumor on the usb-c cable, it was not only confirmed by audient but you can test it with actual measuring equipment...

@EdThorne 3 года назад

What a relief😉

@davidk3872 3 года назад

very interesting video, can you please compare the apollo twin x with the apogee desktop and the RME babyface pro fs, thanks

@EdThorne 3 года назад

I’ll see what I can do 👌

@davidk3872 3 года назад

@@EdThorne Thank you

@EstudioNiguita 3 месяца назад

Thank you very much for the video, I will buy the Audient iD14. I will only work with mixing and mastering and recording vocals and guitar. I'm starting now and I think it will suit me very well according to your video. I really liked your image quality, which camera are you using?

@stanislasbeaufils683 2 года назад

You should try the Motu m2/m4, from what I heard they are very good.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

I‘be never been able get hold of a review unit for various reasons since they came out. And RU-vid is all about the brand new stuff 🙂

@demetrioerrigo6314 Год назад

Great video. I have a question (I'm a beginner sorry) if I need to send signal audio from my Strymon Iridium in Line mode to the interface, do I have to select something in the interface software for select Line input rather than mic? I need to use a 6,3 jack from my Iridium to the interface. thank you

@JuanManuel-il5qf 3 года назад

I had the USB (Windows) version of the Apollo Twin, which did not have any converter updates since its release (unlike the MAC version, with the Apollo Twin MKii), and I can tell you that my Audient ID22 sounds much much better than that PC version of the Apollo Twin. I never had the MKii Apollo, though, so I can not comment about how much better it is

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Hi Juan, I did not know that about the window version, interesting if that’s true. Strange how they’d neglect it though compared to the parallel Mac line.

@Nig6tWalker Год назад

bullshit

@maniacblvck5639 Год назад

Same here id44 mkii sound a lot better than my apollo twin silver usb.. also my speakers sounds better

@matthewwolf1793 2 года назад

Hey Ed. I've been comparing an Apollo Twin X Thunderbolt with an Apogee Symphony Desktop. As clean as the Apogee is, I actually quite like the slightly more open sound of the Apollo vs the somewhat 'squashed' sound of the Apogee (almost like a dynamic mic sound-at least to my ear). Plus have had the issue with the Symphony where sometimes when I unplug, and come back after a time, it fails to be read by my Mac and I have to restart the interface. However, my question is whether you know anything about the audible slight popping when increasing or decreasing the gain on the Apollo... seems to track exactly with each level up, and crucially it gets recorded! I searched a bit and see others have had this exact issue, with no solution. Sometimes I need to ride my gain while recording, so this becomes a problem. Wonder if you had any thoughts...? Cheers.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Hi Matthew. I know exactly what you mean about the squashed feeling of the Apogee interfaces. Re the gain popping, just out of interest, why are you changing the gain mid-performance? And, are you using a Unison preamp when this is happening?

@matthewwolf1793 2 года назад

@@EdThorne Hey Ed. Thanks for your reply. I do a fair amount of Looping/ADR work, which sometimes might involve a scene where we're shouting and then settle down to speaking level, etc... It's not often but happens on occasion. When you say about the Unison, isn't that the preamp that is inside the Apollo? Ta

@matthewwolf1793 2 года назад

Hey Ed. Sorry, in answer to your question about the Unison... NO, not applied... Just straight out of the interface as is...

@VentureNW 3 года назад

Great review. IMO... I would think the UAD Twin would be better compared to the ID44 in terms of pricing, where the ID44 has a lot more to offer, but with the same minuses that the ID14 MKII runs into against the UAD. Correct me if I am wrong, but you spend $1k on the UAD and then you also need to purchase the digital amps? Hehe.

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Thanks. Fair suggestion, but the point was to compare the two channel input versions, and outline WHY the Apollo’s are so much more expensive and what you get for the extra cash. This includes up to ten UAD plugins (which, now you point it out, I actually forgot to mention on the video 🤣🤦🏼‍♂️)

@VentureNW 3 года назад

@@EdThorne Thanks Ed... I didn't know they included 10, which is really nice. Any suggestions for a AI that has 2 headphone inputs with separate control? I was reading about one that would allow you to communicate with the singer (like in another room), but can't remember which one that was. This all started by looking for a Scarlett upgrade. LOL

@EdThorne 3 года назад

@@VentureNW You can route this with the iD14mkii. Outputs 3&4 can be used to feed a headphone amp in another room, or by the singer and you can set two monitor mixes in addition to your speaker mix in the iD Mixer App.

@garyspianocovers6684 2 года назад

I’m looking to upgrade my FR Solo for my live-streaming piano on twitch. I am overwhelmed and have thought about at least six interfaces but can’t make a decision. Looking for something wit midi, at least 2 inputs preferable more, sterling sound with good headroom that doesn’t clip. Hopefully this video might help me out. Watching now.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

The UA Volt might be of interest. Or if you need a LoopBack feature for streaming, check out the Evo by Audient - don't be fooled by it's price - it is one of the best performing interfaces!

@accentontheoff 2 года назад

Hi Ed do you recommend using a DI box with the Audient. Or is it fine without.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

You shouldn't need a DI box with an interface - that's what the interface is for.

@andreyandrey260 2 месяца назад

Great video, thanks! Can you please tell me how important it is to bypass the built-in preamplifiers? I'm going to buy some good expensive preamp, but my card has combined microphone and line inputs. As I understand from the reviews, there is no way to bypass the built-in ones. Should I buy a preamp or will the built-in one reduce the quality of the external one? I have an Audient ID14 MK2

@marcpeiron_studio Год назад

Hey great review. I have a doubt. You say to choose an interface with usb 3 to improve headphone monitoring. But the Audient one is only usb2.0. When you do the test you compare different cables, not protocols. So in conclusion, it's better to use the usb C cable instead of the usb A? Is that what makes the difference? Thanks!

@EdThorne Год назад

Yeh I tried a USB-2.0 and 3.1 cable and there is a power supply difference which affects the amps (only slightly but it was audible).

@marcpeiron_studio Год назад

@@EdThorne But a usb 3.1 cable into a USB 2.0 interface you mean? Is this cable included or you bought it separately? I assume they include two usb2.0 cables (one type A and one type C) thanks!

@EdThorne Год назад

@@marcpeiron_studio I had one lying around. Not provided I don’t think.

@stanz1n594 2 года назад

Hey is it because of how its played or did the Apollo sounded more expressive and better than id 14 in DI input test? this kind of worries me if i should get it or not.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Shrewd observation. The performances are virtually identical.

@stanz1n594 2 года назад

@@EdThorne Okay 😊 thx for the reply

@northerndarklight5305 2 года назад

I would love to buy the Apollo X4. Unfortunately, I only have a blazing fast PC with Thunderbolt 4. Although UAD claims their products are PC compatible, they refuse to address the ASIO/WDM mess that renders their product totally unusable for PC owners. And, only Mac users get LUNA - and it's absolutely free for them. I understand Mac is where it's at for music creators, but they're throwing away more than half their potential business by not addressing the elephant in the room. It's been there for years. Every other audio interface company has solved the ASIO/WDM PC problem. Why can't UAD? Heck, they should just ask Apogee. That's who UAD is trying to be (if they're smart), and they figured it out some time ago. I really wanted the Apollo, but I now have to settle for the Symphony. Change my mind, UAD.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

A fair complaint. I have no answers.

@ConfidenZeTheHumanTorch 2 года назад

Just get the twin and add third party mic pres to it if more channels are needed

@KivancKilicer 2 месяца назад

Hi, thanks for the great video. I am looking everywhere and can't find the answer to this question. I am using way too many VST instruments, have 6-7 Kontakt windows open along with Superior drummer etc. My question is this: Does the DSP in UAD Apollo or any DSP sound interface support the computer processing power while using VSTis, or DSP only gives support to CPU ONLY for the mixing plugins like UAD plugins?

@RodneyD 3 года назад

In short... if you have the cash the Apollo is the obvious choice. But you can’t go wrong with the Audient.

@FelixMolano 3 года назад

wait, can or can't? cuz They're both on par in my experience and Audient makes bigger boards such as what Warren Huart has in one of his studios.

@RodneyD 3 года назад

@@FelixMolano Typo bro.... “You can’t go wrong with the Audient” is what I meant.

@FelixMolano 3 года назад

@@RodneyD lol i know. I make typos all the time.

@EdThorne 3 года назад

Great summary 🙂🤘

@simonvandenheever8571 3 года назад

Or you could get an Audient asp880 which is their highend 8 pre version for even cheaper than the Apollo.

@staiain Год назад

I'm considering the id14, will i be able to apply mono so that the audio input in windows combines both microphone signal without having to use dsp or additional software?

@EdThorne Год назад

You can’t combine mic signals on any audio interface, that’s not how preamps work. You can link inputs to become stereo on the Apollo, but then they would be panned left and right. You need software at some point to mix the channels together for your output pathway (master bus, headphones, Loopback, etc).

@staiain Год назад

@@EdThorne I'm looking for a bit of a niche usecase where i want two microphones in two different rooms to be mixed together to a dual mono/mono configuration that shows up in windows sound devices directly via usb for use with a software that doesn't provide any setting to mix microphone down to mono. I tried the scarlett 4i4 but that sends the microphones to left and right, and if i choose 1 channel in the device settings, it only sends 1 microphone. Arethere no affordable hardwware that could do something like this in the audio space? I'm completely new to this so sorry if this could sound a bit dumb. tl;dr I want to record live vocieover of gameplay through a softwware called nvidia shadowplay and keep the centered microphone voiceover and not having to swwitch mic physically when i play on my tv or desk setup.

@EdThorne Год назад

@@staiain The Evo 4 has a Loopback function, but requires the mixer app to configure.

@faithhopelove6945 Месяц назад

Wonderful Review 👌, i would always go with Audient..."💫 Can U tell me where i can hear the complete Track od the Backgroundmusic? Thanks😃

@pr3lude2tragedy 2 года назад

It's between the volt 276 and the id14 for me. Any thoughts?

@cr4shtestdummy 2 года назад

Hey hello Ed :) I only do voice recordings at home and Im thinking about to switch my audio interface because Im not satisfied with my focusrite scarlett solo even if everyone seem to commend it (I need to turn the gain almost until the end to have a good signal but its still very low and if I turn it a little further the signal is blasted). Well, Ive watched your video and it seems that youve made a lot of experience in all the different kinds of audio interfaces :D ive also read of the audient id4 - is it comparable to the audient id14, do you know something about it? or do you know something about the motu m2 or motu mikrobook2? could you give me an advice maybe? :) would be great and sorry for my english - im german ;D Oh and if necessary: Im using the rode nt1a mic^^

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Sounds like you’re powering a dynamic mic and need a high gain interface. Try the SSL2 or M-Audio 193 (62dB input gain on both). The audient is great but not much more gain (+10dB of digital gain available however in the iD App but it’s not proper preamp gain).

@cr4shtestdummy 2 года назад

@@EdThorne thanks for the quick answer and advice! I'll look for these. And the rode nt1a is a condenser mic :)

@EdThorne 2 года назад

@@cr4shtestdummy Oh yeh, I glossed over that bit, sorry. How come you need nearly full gain (56dB) with a condenser? Sounds like you’re really far away from the mic…

@cr4shtestdummy 2 года назад

@@EdThorne Just about 20cm I guess (7.8")? I dont know, when I record its always that low. My techmate said that my interface is crap :D

@davidmarley8387 3 года назад

Do your prefer the mk2 interface instead ok x version of the Apollo interface

@EdThorne 3 года назад

These are two of my favourite interfaces but the reality is, although the Audient mixer app is fantastic, the Apollo monitoring functionality is far superior. The ability to monitor through UAD plugins AND print these to your audio with zero latency is unbelievable.

@lamasteve6905 3 года назад

UA, has a changeable mic pre effecting the mic, UA DSP powered plugin's are nice.

@lamasteve6905 3 года назад

Let the instruments and vocals do the coloring on the way in and record clean, then final adjustments in the box. Many of the old ways are just dead. Look at rap, a beatbox keyboard and one mic - Done

@lamasteve6905 3 года назад

Studio's are for PR and Show-Boating around ! Most recordings are done else-where ! A good room helps but great talent is the real key and they can record anywhere !

@EirikHasselberg 3 года назад

Thanks, I just bought the Audient iD14 for home use. I have 3 UAD's at work among them one Apollo X8p so I know what to expect from UAD. I am about to record an artist that hopefully will end up on the radio (as well as all the streaming platforms). I plan to record the vocals using the iD14 and a Shure SM58 (we usually go for UAD + Neumann). I will keep it simple and clean and see if the result will be sufficient or if we need to bring out the UAD and the Neumann. Thanks for a great comparison video!

@EdThorne 3 года назад

That’s sounds great, Eirik. Good luck with the recording. I’m using my Audient for home use and Apollo’s in the studio. Great devices!!

@undercovermc 3 года назад

Why did you decide to record with the iD14 and a Shure SM58 if you have the UAD and the Neumann at your disposable? And how is the recording process going?

@EirikHasselberg 2 года назад

@@undercovermc I ended up recording two songs with the iD14 and Neumann on that session. I have now recorded songs (we plan to do 12-15 in total) on UAD, iD14 and a Focusrite Scarlett. Some people might propably disagree, but I would say that the mic used is just as important as the audio interface. But what happens in post production is by far the most important thing. You can not tell the recordings apart in a blind test now. They are all good. One thing that I did not like about the iD14 is that I had a few clicks/pops on the recording that I did not have with the Scarlett and the UAD. So a major disapointment there. But two headphones out and all the other feats are very good on the iD14.

@thedude8463 2 года назад

@@EirikHasselberg Thank you for this comment. Can you also tell what do you feel about their AD / DA converts, the output monitoring? What difference do they make.

@arash5550 2 года назад

thank u for making this video !. i have a question if u dont mind me, when using the mk2 if i turn my pc into sleep mode or restart the pc do i have to re adjust the volunme knobe every time i turn pc on cause ive read that in mk1 you have to re adjust volume everytime u restart pc is it the same ,:( ? thank u for helping us !!!!!!!

@EdThorne 2 года назад

Good question. I didn’t notice this if it’s a problem with the mkii. But having your monitor output reset to zero every session is not a bad thing. You’ll probably gradually increase the volume over the course of a session and the next day get a shock at how loud it was when you left it the day before.

@realkizm 2 года назад

Audient ID + Waves Plug-ins = More Affordable Great Sound!

@ctrlaltcreate3827 2 года назад

Facts

@sikwitit773 2 года назад

I hear they break down or have problems with windows compared to a SSl2+.

@realkizm 2 года назад

@@sikwitit773 The audient? I’ve never had any problems. Had it since 2019!

@samueloluyinkaojomu6548 3 года назад

How would you compare the Audient Id14 MKi vs the focusrite 2i2 3rd gen in terms of audio quality

@Andersrain 2 года назад

audient its far better! but i prefer ssl2

@victoralexandersilva5212 2 года назад

i've heard that the Audient ID14mkii doesn't work on OS Big Sur.... is that true? i have a macbook pro M1 and i would love to purchase the device, it would be a pity not being to do it because of software incompatibility

@EdThorne 2 года назад

It works fine on Big Sur and M1. Software too 🙂

@noradrenalinrecords 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the great video. I interested about not id14 , id44 Audient and the original cables interfaces is 2.0 ...its better to buy other cable USB C-A 3.2 for a great quality ? Headphones Monitoring ? ( I used Beyeardynamic 700 pro X).. Its Amazing why originaly cable not a 3.2

@skateforguitars 3 года назад

Dang new camera lookin fresh

@EdThorne 3 года назад

New camera? New GoPros for the drum kit, yes, but I’m not happy with the GoPro Colour setting, it’s too oversaturated.

@Projamusic Год назад

Thanks for this video great work. I have a problem when recording gibson explorer with passive T500 magnets, my signal clip though no matter how I set the gain pots. This is not the case when I record Harley Benton P bass. Do you connect the guitar directly to the card or do you have some DI to reduce the input signal? Do you have this experience with any of your guitars with passive electronics? What pickups did you record with?

@EdThorne Год назад

Thanks, I hope the video was helpful. I don’t play guitar so can’t comment on pickups. Are you using the Hi-Z input on your interface for the Gibson? And are you using an amp sim before it?

@Projamusic Год назад

@@EdThorne Yes, I connected the guitar direct to the front instrument input. But the signal clips without any additions to the signal and without amplifier simulations.

@EdThorne Год назад

@@Projamusic The instrument input should have a Hi-Z selector switch to introduce a higher impedance circuit for hi gain inputs such as your guitar. A DI box can also do this.

@Projamusic Год назад

@@EdThorne This Audient Id14 dont have Hi-Z selector switch. Scarlet 2i2 dont have this issue. Bad for Audient!

@EdThorne Год назад

@@Projamusic The iD14s have a JFET Hi-Z input on the front panel.

@mark-ze4en 2 года назад

do you have any videos on copying a DAW to an external hard drive SSD for portability. I am using REAPER.

@EdThorne 2 года назад

No, but isn't that a simple 'Save As' (and change location) process...?

@mark-ze4en 2 года назад

@@EdThorne wTching the video it would seem like it but,,, not working for some reason.

@mghareeb1000 2 года назад

Can you compare with usb pre 2 and why the price is too high ?

@thefam9179 2 года назад

You couldn’t tell a difference in sound using your sennheiser 650? Would there be a difference if used an affordable dedicated Dac and amp?

@JoeyOuso 11 месяцев назад

I personally use the Id44 and I love it!! The plug-ins that come with it are so clean. Personally my favorite part is the talk back. That alone has cut my session times by 25 or 30%. Sounds amazing but it was $700! But I got mine used and the only reason it was returned because it didn’t come with side mounts to put them on a rack! Audient is the way to go!

@alphonso0077 Год назад

What specifically does the DSP do in the Apollo Twin? Does it also do noise cancelling and echo cancelling?

@EdThorne Год назад

It operates the Unison preamp hardware and software integration (emulations), powers the insert and aux processing, and manages all the communication between Apollo units under the hood. You can use the C-suite plugin for noise suppression. Noise cancelling is a matter of physics, not audio processing.

@piotrkolasa182 Год назад

So I have ID14 mk II and it’s connected via external monitor’s usb 3.0 hub. Therefore I looked for A to C cables and got ones with “3.0” specifications…nevertheless- I’m getting that distortion at max volume on my HD600. So I tested the ID14 connected stright to MacBook with a thick Thunderbolt cable- and distortion was indeed gone. Now - I would never need this much volume. Question is - does this distortion appears only when on max volume or it’s there even at lower volumes but is just harder to hear?

@Jstall7543 2 года назад

I went drone id14 to Apollo twin and WoW it’s way different! Not in sound quality but in use ability! Id14 is so much easier!

@EdThorne 2 года назад

The Audient is very simple to use, and the monitor routing is great. The Apollo is A LOT more complicated because it is so much more advanced, which puts a lot of people off. Both two of my favourite interfaces - hence the video :-)

@gaborkiss1425 2 года назад

@@EdThorne I got the Apollo Twin X and the Audient iD4 MKII. The iD4 MKII is heck cheaper, but somehow I lean towards it when playing back music? Could that because of the AKM chips? Or just some weird placebo? The Twin X has better specs on paper... On the flipside, the Twin X's input converters seem to smoke the ID4 MKII.