Very kind words, thank you! Yes that was my first video. I’ve learned a lot since my last upload, that is going to be put to good use! Watch for new upload coming next week!
Very solid! I’ve watched about a half a dozen en of these streaming light videos. Yours was the first one to actually deliver pro level lighting to your final scene. And even though I’m horrible at setting up lights, I’m a network tv showrunner, who is used to working with award winning lighting directors. So… I know what good light looks like! And you explained the product very well. Nicely done!
I'm surprised this channel doesn't have more recognition. I'll definitely support this :) Thanks for selling this product to me, I am gonna get it now!
A bit of character adds a lot to videos. There's so many smaller channels with people not using any hand gestures and just being a boring mono tone talking head. So thanks for breaking that mold, and thanks for the content. You made some really good points and I appreciate how you added info about your camera settings and how they were affected by changes in the key light settings.
Glad you enjoyed the review. And the price on these make them an even better deal! I’m still using mine daily without any issues. Congrats on picking them up and enjoy!
Thanks for this review. I'm about to take this lamp back to the store. I've spent an hour trying to get it connected to the wi-fi. I wanted to like this thing.
Sorry you had so much trouble with it. I found that my router wasn’t powerful enough to reach the light, without constantly cutting out. Which doesn’t make a lot of sense since my internet seemed to be fine. Solution: I upgraded my router (needed an upgrade anyways) and moved it into the same room as my setup. I’ve had zero connectivity issues since. Still, I know it’s frustrating, because you would think the light it wouldn’t drop signal like that.
I just did an introduction to the Key Light Air, but now I need to do a follow-up because I’m having the same issue with connectivity. It’s TOTALLY UNRELIABLE and so ridiculous for Elgato to pump this particular benefit, knowing this is a serious problem. Love your humor, by the way! 😆
Glad you enjoyed. I will say once I moved the router closer, I’ve had zero issues since. However, I will say that this is the first wifi item that I’ve had issues with due to the router being in a different room of the house. Closer is better for sure, but that doesn’t work for everyone’s setup.
It absolutely is. Better/newer equipment does not always equal a better result. Sometimes things like lights and settings make a better impact on your final product!
I have to say you are pretty funny. Great job here ( I have been toying with getting me a keylight air ). I am in a pretty small room and do not have space for some big ass softboxes or crap so i am thinking the key light air (as a key light) will be perfect for me with some other lighter/smaller lighting options to fill and give ambiance to the whole scene! you got a sub out of me buddy!
Thanks! Yes to change the color temperature of the white color, you’ll either need the Elgato Control Center App on your mobile or desktop. Both versions will communicate with your lights via WiFi though, so that’s a must!
Another awesome review and video, Cybr I appreciate the in-depth level of detail that you go into here. 😆 👍 👍 Personally, I'm currently debating and undecided as to which Elgato light I need for my set up that being said, I'm just happy that's there are options out there. Cheers to you, my man! 🍻
Hey man, thank you so much for this video. I've been trying to get some actually usable information about the real-world differences between the lights, and there was surprisingly little usable information available it. I'm glad I ran into you eventually as this was the most comprehensive comparison of these lights, with an actual real-world set build example. If you're reading this I'd love to know how you're finding these lights two and a half years on - are you still using them? Do they still work? Would love to have an update :) Either way, from one tiny RU-vid creator to another, hats off to you and I hope you get many many more subs, you definitely deserve it!
Hey there. So glad it brought you some good info. Yes, I’m still using these on a daily basis. Both as set lights, stream lights, and sometimes I point them towards the ceiling to give some more “daylight” lighting as my studio doesn’t have any windows. They are still holding up great and the only thing I would change is possibly adding a small soft box attachment for more of a “studio” type lighting in some of my videos. But I 100% recommend these. You can’t go wrong with them. Good luck to you in your YT journey!
The missing remote controls are a legitimate con. Especially, since you’re pretty much at the mercy of Elgato to update the apps in order to keep the lights alive in the long run. I cannot tell if the connection issues you face are due to I inconsistencies in the lights firmware tho. At least my regular Elgato Key Lights. Don’t suffer from it at all. Over the first year that I had them, I had to reconnect them just once. As for the WiFi connectivity: Well, you seem to be at full signal strength. So I’m not sure what’s the cause. As for the footprint of the light stands: That alone would draw me towards the real Key Lights, as they come with a desk clamp connections instead of that foot. On the one hand makes them less mobile, than the Airs, but since the power brick and cable lengths should be similar, I’m not sure if that is a real downside. What actually IS a downside is the small size of the Key Light Air. The smaller the light source, the harsher the shadows. So the big ones would give you even smoother shadow casting. What’s really informative to me, is how little light the cam seems to need. I am running my full size Key Lights at 32% / 60% to keep my Logitech C920 Webcam happy. And since the big Key Lights can output 2700 lm of light, while the Key Light air can “only” output 1400 lm, this gap becomes even bigger. Impressive. Thanks for the Video!
Great points! I found the connectivity issue was having the router too far away from the lights. Oddly enough, even though it had full wifi strength, it was the actual router’s capabilities causing my constant connection issues. Upgrading routers and moving it closer to the lights solved my connection issues completely. It was obviously an issue on my end, sure. But something someone else could still run into, so good to be aware of. The original key light still looks to be one of the best light output options you can get in the Elgato line up. But like you said, in certain use cases you don’t NEED high lumens to achieve the light you need. I have a small room, DSLR, gopro4, and TWO smaller lights. I have more lights than I need to light me up. The same may not be true for someone in a larger room with maybe more natural light and something like webcam. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Very true. And I have the stream deck. For those that don’t have the funds to purchase another full stream deck, could also use on stream deck mobile. However, still would have been nice for a cheap IR remote to be included for quick changes.
That warm light in the background no way is 4k, looks like 2700k (unless the camera is just making it look lower in the vide) Good video, I built my own soft box and 3 point system using rather cheap stuff, but thinking of upgrading to 2x Key light air possibly. I hear the network connection has issues though.
Since the video I’ve both upgraded the router, and moved it closer to the key lights. I’ve had zero connection issues since then. I’m unsure if it was due to the router or lack of wifi strength with the lights. However, I couldn’t be happier now, as they work flawlessly.
I'm going to be honest. I am not going to sub because this isn't my type of videos but I got this on my recommendations and I watched the whole thing! Dnt give up brother, I can see you growing 🙏
Just to clarify, are you asking what I filmed on that was showing the actual camera at 1:01 mark? If so, I believe that was on a iPhone Xs at the time of filming. If you’re just asking how I shot on the T3i, I just was recording to a SD card at 1080p.
These lights are highly recommended - work fantastically well. Also had that issue with the disconnection so hopefully they patch that. 100% get them though. Great vid ++
Thank you! I’ve seen to have had better luck as of late with the connectivity. After moving the router closer, they seem to be connected almost 100% of the time. I believe they just have a very weak wifi antenna in them.
Really good video and it was very helpful. FYI your shutter speed should always be double your camera frame rate. 1/40 really shouldn’t be used unless you were shooting at a strange frame rate like 20fps which... I don’t know of any camera that does that
Also just wanna say your presentation and quality punches FAR above your weight class. You’re only about 297 subs at the time of this writing and only 3 uploads. If you posted more I guarantee you’d have a much larger audience size very quickly. Keep going man I believe in ya :)
Much agreed on the using double shutter speed to frame rate ratio. The 1/40 was merely showing those who are NOT in the know what the difference will look like, and the preferred way to set it. But you’re spot on. Thank so much for the kind words! Always a scary step putting the first videos out there. But glad you enjoyed. More to come soon!
great vid. does it not blind you? i don't know how people with these big lights don't get crazy blind from it. i have bad lighting for video calls and wanna get one, but also don't want to be staring at this bright light all the time. any ideas? cheers!
Good thoughts. But I think the benefit is not putting it directly behind the camera. Keep it out of your line of vision. Plus they are not at eye level, rather slightly above. With good camera adjustment, you can allow for a brighter image with LESS light. It’s the best of both worlds.
@ Sorry to hear the costs are higher down there! Like other streaming/video gear, I'm sure there are alternative products and alternative options for lighting what you need. Really just comes down to your setup and what you're trying to achieve.
Nice review my buddy :) do you think one light will be enough be it the key light air or the normal keylight to light me and a greenscreen ? or will 2 lights be needed ?
I believe you could get away with one light to light you up pretty well. Depends on if you want the light directly in front of you or to your side. All depends on what type of look you’re going for. As far as the green screen is concerned, you’ll just want to make sure there is enough light thrown on the green screen behind you, so your software can recognize a consistent green color/hue, that you’re looking to replace. That light can possibly be the same key light/air, but you’ll want to make sure there aren’t any shadows on the green screen from you or other sources. Really depends on your setup, how it’s angled, what type of camera and ISO settings you have, etc. Any type of light shining on the green screen behind you should work, if you need it.
I know exactly what you’re saying, but I have yet to find the correct bolt needed to do so. It seems like you’d need a double sided male bolt (no head on it), to screw into the light pole and then into the clamp.
I wouldn’t say irrelevant. Shutter speed in video produces some noticeable differences in the overall look of a shot when it’s changed. Can you have an “incorrect” shutter speed in conjunction with the frames per second you’re trying to shoot in… I suppose not, as you’ll still have a video in the end. However there are some guidelines in relation to your frames per second (24 vs. 30 vs. 60, etc) that do make a difference.
@@CybrFox Shutter speed is the length of time the shutter stays open for still or single image. Let’s go back to film cameras to start with. Take an SLR camera. You press the shutter release. The mirror flips up, the first curtain slide across to expose the film. Then after the shutter speed length of time, the second curtain moves across to prevent any further light reaching the film. So shutter speed is not really a speed at all. It is an interval of time. We call it shutter “speed” for convenience. Now think of a film based movie camera. The shutter speed is determined by the number of frames per second. Once you have a camera operating at a certain fps, the only way to control exposure is by aperture. Each frame is exposed for as long as possible depending on fps. So if you are shooting 60 fps, each frame is exposed for almost 1/60th of a second. You could conceivably expose each frame for an interval less than this but I don’t know of any equipment that ever did this. The same applies to a digital setup. If you are shooting at 60 fps, the sensor is active for 1/60th of a second and then the captured image is stored. This is followed by the next 1/60th of a second. In theory you could make the sensor active for only 1/100th of a second, record the image, wait a further 1/40th of a second with the sensor inactive but that would be silly. You would be losing information. So, in movie mode, “shutter speed” is determined completely by the chosen frame rate. Changing the camera’s shutter speed will have no effect at all.
@@courageous-schools But it should have an effect. Think about what you were saying before when it comes to still photography. If you were capturing a moving subject, say at a sporting event, you may want a higher shutterspeed to help capture the subject. Or you may choice to decrease it slightly to add motion blur. When we talk about video shooting, the same logic applies... to an extend. While you may not get as dramatic motion blur from a slow shutter speed compared to your fps, you will in fact create a different type of video image. That's why certain "rules" apply when it comes to trying to create natural looking motion and motion blur in video. Mind you, rules are made to be broken (ie shooting slow motion, or action shots that are supposed to depict frantic movement). While it doesn't have maybe as large an effect as still photography, it still plays an important roll of the overall look of video.
@@CybrFox Sorry, it has absolutely no effect. Using your example, the only way to reduce blur for a moving subject is to increase frame rate. That is indeed what we do. We regularly use frame rates in excess of 100 fps for high speed filming. You simply cannot increase shutter speed to be slower than frame rate. If the frame rate is say 60 fps it is physically impossible to have a “shutter speed” slower than 1/60th of a second. If you had a shutter speed fast than 1/60th, you would end up with a jerky image with the fast moving object being in a distinctly different position between each frame. It’s totally constrained by physics.
Hi there. It’s only a plug with an AC adapter on the end. It does however come with different prongs if you happen to be in other countries. But there’s really no way to use any type of USB adapter to plug these in.
