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just a random thought about the 73 yard perception filter thing... sutekh would've seen the doctor disappear in that episode (they weren't very far from the tardis when it happened). perhaps he realised that the tardis wouldn't be going anywhere anytime soon and decided to tag along with ruby instead (whether it was his form or some sort of avatar/drone/whatever). it's possible that having clung to the tardis for so long that he might've absorbed some of the effects of the perception filter so you could only see him once outside the filter's range. so perhaps ppl's reaction to ruby when looking at her after talking to old ruby was because they were outside the range of the filter and could suddenly see sutekh clinging to ruby. when she goes back to the tardis as an old woman, sutekh could've jump back over to the tardis, knowing that she was going to die soon and he wasn't gonna get the answers he was looking for... which would be why ruby never saw sutekh hanging off old ruby
Mrs Flood seems to be cosplaying as companions. She tends to wear a shirt and grey jumper identical to the one Clara was wearing when she died, and the white fluffy costume is very similar to the one Romana wore in her first appearance.
She wears all these outfits to get you all arguing over which one you think it is, its intentional to confuse you. It is none of these characters. Its purely to drum up hype. Don't fall for it lol, she'll be as disappointing as every "reveal" in this season
Ruby's story definitely isn't over, especially considering the snow. Even at the end, it was snowing when Mrs. Flood was on the roof, despite it being around June or July.
THANKS for this, Blind Wave!!! Finally, an American reactor who knows what the Memory TARDIS is, yay for Melanie!!!!! Thanks for being loyal Whovians!!!! "The TARDIS provides!" There were a lot of stretches in this one--such as Ruby's mother pointing to CCTV cameras. And if I have to figure that out it means the script is too wibbly-wobbly.
We have met most of the Pantheon already. We've met: The Trickster The Celestial Toymaker The Maestro The Beast (10th Doctor story) Sutekh The Mara (Fifth Doctor Story) There is still a few we haven't met yet but they may have been previously mentioned in the past.
when it comes to doctor who and most sci-fi franchises, I've always been a themes > lore type of gal, so this finale worked so well for me, as much of an anti-climax the ruby mom reveal was. this season really was a return to form for the series, really looking forward to more seasons with Ncuti.
As for next companions, we have answers. Not really spoilers but don't read further if you want to be surprised Ruby is supposed to come back later in second season, her story is not finished with snow etc and apparently acctress is already billed for it. Also that actress that played soldier in the war ambulance episode is apparently also next season companion. But we don't know whether she will play same character or someone else entirely. And I personally think they will go search for Rogue.
The Doctor definitely feels more human with Ncuti's range of emotions shining through, especially compared to previous Doctors that felt a little more Alien with less emotions or odd ways to reacting to situations that would draw out emotions in humans. Dragging the puppy through the time vortex felt very Doctor Who. Epic, but goofy. In the UK, anyone mentions 1066, you think of the Battle of Hastings. See you again for more Doctor Who in December for the Christmas Special, 2024. Unless you can watch the behind the scenes stuff from this season.
Wait, hold up. So Sutekh has clung on to the TARDIS since he met the 4th Doctor way back when. So... what happened when 15 split the TARDIS in two back during his and Tennants episode? Are there two Sutekh's now, or did he just correctly guess which on to hitch a ride on?
Toys and Music. Childhood is also filled with stories. UNIT has noticed an increase in the paranormal and that is the kind of stuff that stories are made of. Mrs. Flood talks about how this story ends and how the Doctor's story will end. Is she "The Storyteller", "The Bookworm", or some such thing? I am not familiar with such a character existing in the Whoniverse, but I only follow the television series.
Very mixed feelings on the episode as a whole, but the reunion between Ruby and her mother was really excellent IMO. The tease with Mrs Flood was fun too, I really hope she properly gets the chance to properly go all out in later episodes.
I just had a thought about this episode. There was one aspect of the tardis that was talked about a LOT this season. The perception filter. After all... it has a range of exactly 73 yards. Anyways, the Tardis was the one essentially filtering Ruby's mom's face. Why? Well, it was mirroring Ruby's inner feelings. Ruby felt cursed. Like she was destined to never know her real mother. Well... the Tardis just reflected that by erasing her mom from their perception. It just so happened that Sutekh also saw her mom's face being erased and was like "What the fuck? How can this be? I'm a God! There is nothing I shouldn't be able to see." So, all of this mystery surrounding her mom all stemmed from Ruby's trauma. Ruby's mom wasn't special... except to Ruby, she was. Thus, the Tardis reflected that and made us all see a mysterious hooded figure that pointed like a bizarre creep. It made us think she was special too. It messed with our perception. Ruby's feelings of being abandoned were so powerful that the perception filter even tricked a God. There's something kind of cool about human emotion being so powerful.
Overall, I enjoyed this season more than I have since 11 regenerated. I absolutely love Peter Capaldi and 12 but imo the writing overall was much weaker in Peter's run as The Doctor than we had with David Tennant or Matt Smith's eras. Ncuti is talented and charming and has really risen up my favorite Doctor list. Ruby Sunday is absolutely one of my favorite companions, I just wish we had more time with her and the Doctor together. The writing so far, is as good as Matt or David's eras. I hope the next season is as good or better than this one, if so, we'll have great one for sure.
Weird, I'm the opposite. Loved the season, mostly liked the finale, but hated the way they handled Ruby's ending. Her mother just being a normal human makes no sense given all the wibbly-wobbliness and mysterious phenomena around her and her mother's memory.
Whatever they decided to be with Ruby’s mum it was going to be mixed it’s was the same with river song and the Clara mystery some people are going to love it and some people are going to hate it. It’s impossible to please everyone
My wild guess is that Mrs. Flood is the pantheon of discord god of stories or something like that, and Ruby is her avatar. We know from Susan that the gods' avatars have entire lives and families, so the reveal that Ruby's mother is just an ordinary person is something of a misdirect. There's clearly something special about Ruby, otherwise how could it snow around her? As for why Sutekh was obsessed with finding out who her mother was, I assume he just sensed that something weird was going on nearby, and when he couldn't see her face he assumed that was what had bothered him, when in reality he had sensed Ruby herself - another god's avatar - but he couldn't tell that that's what had happened. Only that *something nearby* was bothering him.
The Time Meddler (1965) was set in 1066. The Meddling Monk was planning to eliminate the Viking fleet before they arrived, meaning the Battle of Stamford Bridge wouldn't happen, meaning King Harold would be ready for the Norman invasion and the Battle of Hastings, thus changing the course of history.
@@TheMoonRover 1066 was the Norman invasion. The vikings had been in England for several hundred years, and it was they who defeated the Normans in Stamford Bridge. It didn't go so well down south in Hastings. Writing this in... Stamford Bridge.
The mum reveal just came off a cop out. No. The audience never built up her importance. The series itself kept building up. The narrative falls apart when every character on the show gets involved in the mystery For comparison the reason Rei's parents being nobodies (at the time) worked was only Rei one who thought they were important. Never brought up by anyone else in the movies.
I think some people are a bit over dramatic, I wouldn’t have minded the revelation of Ruby’s mom if what led up to it was handled better not just in the episodes but on social media as well
I liked this season a lot, and even enjoyed this episode for the most part, but... the way they handled Ruby's mom was awful, in my opinion. I'd be fine with her just be a person if they hadn't hyped her up and wrapped her in all the supernatural elements, but they did. If Ruby's just a human and her mom is just a normal human as well, then why can Ruby make it snow? Why couldn't Sutekh see her face? ("Because we thought she was important"? Come on, everyone is important to someone, but no one else gets that magical camo.) And she was pointing to the Ruby Road sign to name her daughter? Except she *wasn't* pointing the first time, that was a changed memory -- HOW did it change? And who was she naming the baby to if no one was around? Just to the Doctor? And if she's just a normal woman in 2004, why would she mysteriously point instead of just saying to the strange man in front of the blue box, "Her name is Ruby; make sure they take care of her"? Either there's something supernatural/wibbly wobbly about her, or there isn't. Either is okay. But they tried to do both, and ended up just contradicting the entire season with that "reveal"... and that's what bother me. I'm really interested to learn more about Mrs. Flood, I just hope they handle her better. I don't want to go another season, only for it to end with, "Mrs. Flood is just a normal, kindly old lady, who seemed magical because we wanted her to be."
If Sutekh has been on the TARDIS all this time, he definitely saw Jack hanging on to the outside of it in Utopia and was probably having a good laugh. I’m sure he actually hates him though. Or may he loves him, because of the sheer amount of times Jack has died, he just doesn’t stay dead.
I know don’t many people like that but I like the fact Ruby mum is ordinary as it subvert higher expectations. Also the show never said her mum would be this ultra power being that was us the audience so like the show said we made her important.
The origin of Ruby & her temporary departure fell completely flat in my screening. The show expects investment into Ruby's character but it didn’t earn it. 8 episodes is not enough for me to feel anything at that end scene to feel anything for a friendship I haven't seen enough of on screen. In the cinema myself & my party of friends felt completely cold to it when I expect RTD hoped we would be close to tears. We really don't know Ruby enough to justify doing this sooo early in her run despite that lovely scene & it should have been saved for the S2 finale. It really makes me think Millie & RTD did fall out (or both realised it wasn't for them) now & the rumours were somewhat correct. Think about how much real interaction Ruby has had with 15 this season..When you do, you realise how often they were apart even when they were together in an episode 🤯 & yeah they had to fit around Ncuti's other commitments but then giving Ruby a family could have been delayed
Yeh, I just feel disappointed.. I don't feel like the acting is thaaaaat good, and the writing is almost cool, but just misses the mark for me. It is just so rushed, like all the plots are so quick because of it
If Millie and RTD did have a fallout They wouldn't attend the Who events at the US together. Just saying. We all know how to people who fell out with RTD behaved EHEM Chris Eccleston
@@MatthewCYN15 "I did say both decided it wasn't for them" as well. They also could have made up before shooting S2 & no one wants to jepodise Millies career but the wheels were already in motion, scenes had already been shot etc. Doctor Who is a gruelling shoot it has been said many a time, it's hard work
Bring too Hollywood is a good description. When I saw 14Tennent/Ncuti's TARDIS my first thought was it looks expensive for the sake of looking expensive. It's not really in line with previous designs in its scope.
So we have Mrs Mary Poppins-Flood dressing up as old companions (that white fur hood coat was like one Time lady Romana wore in her first episode with The 4th Dr). Apart from that, this was one of the worse episodes since "In the forest of the night" threw-up on our screens.
This has been my least favourite season of all time, it used to be series 12. Nothing has topped s1-4 for me so far Also it would be cool if you reacted to a key story from each Doctor
Series 2 was half garbage, and Series 12 was at least miles better than Series 11. If you don’t let the Timeless Child thing drive you mad, it honestly had so many great moments. Honestly kinda wild because (besides Space Babies and the few cop-outs in this episode) I think this has been the best season in a long time. For me, it goes 9/10 4/5 This season 4 1 and so on… But hey, everyone is entitled to their opinions. And in mine, one of the greatest things about this show is that every episode and season of this show does something different for each fan.
I was really enjoying this episode up until the end. The Doctor controlling the TARDIS with a whistle was a lot of fun. I like the solution of this episode and the idea of death of death creating life. I just didn’t like the end. Though the sentiment that something is important because we ascribe it importance is nice, it feels like such a cop-out. Her being just a regular person doesn’t make sense to me. Because then why didn’t Sutekh the name of anyone else who was in the same position as Ruby? I much rather would’ve preferred Ruby’s mom or even dad be some type of other member of the pantheon, making Ruby a demigod. And I’m really interested in seeing where the Mrs. Flood stuff goes. I’m glad they kept that open. And I am sorry to see the season end so fast. With the Doctor being in only the majority of 6/8 of the episodes, I feel like I barely know him. And while I love that we have an emotional Doctor, his crying every single episode really makes the whole crying thing less impactful.
i have to say this episode was a major let down for me. Disappointing at best, insulting at worst. I hate the commentary of "rubys mom was only important bc people said she was". its like they're saying fuck you for getting excited about the show. Lowkey devastated. Do better next season rtd
Oh & who in their right mind thought after a divisive Ruby reveal it was acceptable to have a Mrs Flood "Absolute Terror" mic drop to end without a Xmas Trailer to lighten the mood & create some buzz & excitement?? I cant help feeling I had been given the middle finger at 1am in the morning & the mood in the cinema darkened at that moment. This finale has really sadly not gone down well with the majority of Whovians especially in Britain
Was disappointed watching this finale. It felt unbalanced and hollow. Like the entire season was so inconsistent. There were some REALLY great episodes, but others fell flat. Legend of Ruby Sunday really built into something, and this episode felt like a damp squib. I’m fine with not all questions being answered, but the answers this episode did give were pretty lame imo. Why build up the mystery of the mom to make her just ordinary, makes no sense. After 8 episodes I still don’t have a read on who the Doctor or Ruby are. Pacing is off and stories are just too inconsistent. The visuals, music, moments are amazing, it’s just not all connecting. Also feel the better cliff hanger would have been dusting everyone instead of just ending they did do. RTD like to rush his endings and “it’s doctor who” is used as the reason for inconsistent story telling as an excuse too much.
Ruby is back as a companion with another yet to be named however the actor is the person who played Monday in Boom. Classic who ended in 1989 it returned with Paul McGann in 1996 and then the first RTD era started in 2005. Mrs Flood could be a TimeLord also on the RU-vid Edit you cut out her line The Clever Boy which was always said by Clara. The memory TARDIS was designed for the series Tales of The TARDIS its very timey whimy but tey not too miss the little gems hidden
A very underwhelming and nonsensical finale. Sutekh defeated too easily. The universe saved with rope and a spoon. Everyone is predictably brought back to life. The mother was a nobody and her pointing meant nothing. What about the snow? Mrs Flood's identity still a mystery. I could go on.
im my opinion i think sutekh is the oldest one not the one who waits because in the giggle toymaker saw sutekh in space and ran be we know that he was invisible on the tardis this whole time so also if he was on the tardis and the toymaker ran before he would of ran again??
I know many people don’t like that like the fact Ruby mum is ordinary as it subvert higher expectations. Also the show never said her mum would be this ultra power being that was us the audience so like the show said we made her important.
The Toymaker actually mentions “he who waits” to Tennant as someone he’s to afraid to play against. Toymaker saw him hiding and ran. So I’m guess Sutekh can absolutely dust other gods.
All the places that the Doctor mentioned having been to: 1999 in the TV Movie (1996) 1066 in _The Time Meddler_ (1965) 2005 in _Rose_ (2005) Venus, presumably where the 3rd Doctor learnt his Venusian Aikido. Telos, first seen in _The Tomb of the Cybermen_ (1967) Karn, near Gallifrey, first seen in _The Brain of Morbius_ (1976) The Ood Sphere, first seen in _Planet of the Ood_ (2008) Skaro, planet of the Daleks since 1963. Vortis, planet of the Zarbi in _The Web Planet_ (1965) Tigella, a jungle planet seen in _Meglos_ (1980) Vox... maybe keep an eye out for it in future? Messaline, in _The Doctor's Daughter_ (2008) Calufrax, a segment of the Key to Time disguised as a planet in _The Pirate Planet_ (1978) Spiridon, seen in _Planet of the Daleks_ (1973) Shan Shen, home of the fortune teller in _Turn Left_ (2008)
Small note: The first or second Doctor must have learned Venusian aikido at some point, but third's personality made him desire to use it more frequently. Three could never have gone to Venus, since he was stuck on earth (almost - the three doctors being an exception) the whole time.
Not all those places were infected by Susan Triads though. Only AFTER pyramids of Mars, which means... There's a servant of Sutekh in E-space, too. Maybe still lurking, not having got the message. Not to easy crossing over to that place, after all.
@AndrewHalliwell Nah, he's almost certainly visited all of those places more than once (not even bothering to check expanded media for that one). Everything has a sequel.
I reckon all those planets he would have visited before the events of Pyramids of Mars have probably all been revisited in audio dramas and later episodes. For example, Telos was visited by the 5th Doctor too
I’d like them to at least watch the episodes with the doctor in from Sarah Jane adventures there’s a two parter with David Tennant and a two parter with Matt smith
1066 is a famous year in the UK, hence why the Time Meddler used it too, because of the Battle of Hastings, which is noteworthy but perhaps overemphasised in our education, it's seared into all of our heads a significant year
It is more to do with the coincidence of 66 in English history. 1066 the battle of Hastings. 1666 the great fire of London. 1966 England wins the world cup.
@@OneTrueScotsman It's not as famous in Scotland? I don't know anything about how much it is taught about but I imagined it would still be well known north of the border.
It was Sutekh who picked up the 12th Doctor’s chalk and wrote the word “Listen” on the blackboard in the Tardis. He was the “silent passenger” the Doctor was theorising about. The mystery has finally been solved. 😊
So as someone has pointed out - Mrs. Flood outfits resemble stuff we have seen some companions wear - like Clara's outfit in Twice Upon a Time/Face the Raven or even Romana's white fur. I wonder if we could connect some other outfits as well. It could be a fun reference or just coincidence though.
It feels like RTD is intentionally trolling long time fans by giving Mrs Flood lines & costumes reminiscent of multiple old contradictory characters all at once
Cold logic = the Rani; dominate heaven = the Master/Missy; Clara callbacks ("clever boy"/"Raven" grey jumper); white parka = Romana. There may be others, but these were the most obvious to me.
They mysteryed up Ruby's mum a bit too much. Why was she wearing that hood. If it's supposed to be Manchester in 2004, she would be wearing a puffer bomber jacket, not a scottish widows hood.
That's your biggest issue? Why could Ruby make it snow? Why did no DNA exist throughout all time and space that matched her until suddenly it just did? Why was the Mystro scared of her? What was 74 Yards even about? Who was Ruby's mum pointing the sign out to and why does she point at things like such a creep? Also unrelated to Ruby, but if Sutekh's plan in Pyramids of Mars was all just so he could stop sitting on a chair, couldn't he think of a new scheme that didn't require he spend hundreds of years sitting on top of a police box?
I’m choosing to believe Ruby and her mum were caught up in a mega perception filter when the malfunctioning possessed tardis landed causing her mum to be hard to find the hood etc the point memory change was another image projected by the tardis as a clue and Ruby to manifest snow and music as a perception filter. The doctor travelling to the church to find caused the mystery in the first place wibbly wobbly. I’m coping hard lol
@@bobson3014 Apparently yes. The night she was dropped off on ruby road is a powerful and delicate moment in time, and the Doctor was able to identify it as such because it kept snowing. The DNA clearly existed in 2046. If you’re questioning how Unit was able to find her… they’re Unit. A TV show does not have the same resources as an organization called the Unified Intelligence Taskforce. Maestro was only scared of the One Who Waits. Upon hearing the music, Maestro says “He couldn’t have been there.” Which (as we now know) he was. Isolation, mainly. The Doctor, presumably. Or just herself being overly emotional as a 15 year old who is leaving her child behind. He evolved to Godhood, I’m pretty sure one tends to shift their priorities a bit when that happens.
I’m choosing to believe Ruby and her mum were caught up in a mega perception filter when the malfunctioning possessed tardis landed causing her mum to be hard to find the hood etc the point memory change was another image projected by the tardis as a clue and Ruby to manifest snow and music as a perception filter. The doctor travelling to the church to find caused the mystery in the first place wibbly wobbly. I’m coping hard lol
I dont think that could fool Sutekh. At that point he was super strong. He made a whole human being and used the perception filter itself. The whole issue is that sutekh himself with all his power couldnt see her face, there was no match for rubys mom in all the dna databanks until there was?, etc
@@JP-zb3yb as part of the tardis and perception filter the more sutekh brooded and obsessed over the myster the stronger it got to the point it was spread out through time itself like Susan. The implication is that they DID find a match for rubys mums dna but the perception filter again made it look like it didn’t even staring right at a match on a computer screen it would still look like nothing came up. Only Ruby herself could see anything on the screen and even then it didn’t make sense and she didn’t understand what it was saying, Only once sutekh was defeated was the filter lifted and unit could find her 🤷🏼♂️
@Look_Over_There then how do they find a match before sutekh is defeated? I dont think this is how the perception filter works at all, youre overestimating its power. Sutekh made a being in every space time named susan and used the perception filter to make it harder to notice, because thats what it does. It doesnt outright hide things once you're attention is on it.
The Time Medler is the first time we meet another Time Lord (though they weren't called that yet, they were just someone else with a Tardis at the time) It's also just an iconic and fun First Doctor story.
"And above all stands the Mother and The Father and the Other ..." in this I am pretty sure that Sutekh is considered the OTHER. Mother and Father representing birth and family , Sutekh as Death. . The one who waits is 1000% Sutekh because he was clinging to the Tardis for this entire time "waiting" LOL
The Other, huh? You know who else has been referred to as The Other? ... Well nobody I guess since that storyline was scrapped when the show was cancelled in 89, but it would have been The Doctor. So logically... Sutekh is... the Doctor!!!
Was excited to see your reactions for this season and I haven’t been disappointed! I’m not totally sold on the ‘mystery box’ style of writing for the whole season as I feel that some of the reasons and explanations for things that happen feel a bit glib and ‘shoe-horned’ in, but I have to say that some of the individual episodes have been some of the most interesting - and bravest ideas in recent years - Boom through Dot and Bubble particularly! I did find the finale a bit unsatisfying initially, but that’s really grown on me after a couple of viewings, although I LOVED the scenes of Sutekh mentally chipping away at Mel’s defences and The Doctor’s scene with ‘The Kind Woman’. I could be completely wrong about this, but I strongly get the sense that Russel T Davies has introduced many concepts this year designed to give the middle finger to the haters who have been loud in their objections to having Ncuti Gatwa as an openly Gay actor and also Being Black (Dot and Bubble being particularly forceful about this) and I applaud the programme for being brave enough to call out those prejudices. In that respect, it’s reinforced the show’s Credo from the very beginning - a ‘dislike for the unlike’ is never a good look! Thank you so much and can’t wait for next season!
Unlike Eric, the Ruby making snow thing did bother me cause it feels like such an empty tease. Good episode but so much of the finality of the mysteries was a letdown
The end of it with Mrs Flood .. Is gearing it up for a Christmas special ❄️. iI think she is the White Guardian.. The terror could be the Black Guardian.. This is from past lore
I get the sentiment of the whole Ruby mystery, and I do like the message it gives, but I feel like the only reason I thought she was important was because her being important was a plot point that was being forced down my throat for the entire season. If she was introduced like any other companion, I wouldn't have put any thought into her being special at all... I feel like there are still so many questions to ask about Ruby, none of which would paint her as "normal".
Agreed. Whether she's normal or special, either would have been fine, but they tried to do both somehow, and it just ended up a mess of contradictions.
@@Jim_The_Fish I agree with you. But trying to think about how RTD told that story, I think what matters is not that we, the audience, thinks she is important, but that the character in the story do think she is important. We tend to see it at a meta level, but if you take this plot as it is and withouth thinking about any commentary : the Doctor was wondering what pushed this woman to leave her child on the night of christmas. It intrigued him and by extension, it intrigued Sutekh. When the Doctor asks Ruby about her origin and her mother, this is when the snow stats falling for the first time. The Doctor gave power to that memory. And from there, all kind of weird things starts to happen, like memories are changing, or the mother's power by pointing to the sign made the priest think about Ruby for her name, etc.. Proof of the fact that the Doctor is the one giving power to Ruby is that in 73 Yards, when the Doctor disappear, old Ruby said "it never snowed again [since the Doctor left]". I pretty much think this is what happened, in RTD's head. But it still is clunky. (And I don't understand why the mother is wearing such a hood....)
@@Kwev Yeah but the character doesnt feel like shes important, all the way through the season. She only starts thinking shes special because all of the non realistic parts russel puts in there to make her special like the snow, like having her being all mysterious and invisible.
@@charg1nmalaz0r51 I'm not sure I understand what you mean or if you just didn't understand what I wrote. In context of the episode, RTD do not exist. The people who gave Ruby and her mother powers are The Doctor and Sutekh. By wondering why they are so special, they became special. Like a self-fulfilling prophecy. To tie even more things together : - The Doctor thought Ruby was important because he has a lot in common with Ruby AND the Goblins were after her. So if Ruby is important, he starts to ask himself why would she be ? And why would somone abandonned this important girl during Christmas night. At that moment, Ruby and her mother are nothing special, yet. They have no power at all. Because all of this was.... YET ANOTHER COINCIDENCE that Goblins like so much. But the Doctor doesn't know that. So, by thinking Ruby and her mother are important, it gave them power. If you rewatch the episodes, the Snow and Ruby's Power only starts to appear during Space Babies, when the Doctor asks Ruby why she is so special. That's the moment Ruby starts making snow and has power. That's the moment memory starts changing. But the Doctor thought she was special because of a pure coincidence.
I think this series of the show was let down more by it's briefness, it feels like there are missing stories rather than it being made to fit the 8 episodes it got, I'm not mad about what we got, it's all very Doctor Who, but there just isn't enough time with key plot points to let them sit or be fleshed out. I like Ruby's Mother being no-one of significance to the plot, but important to the characters enough that it seeps into the consciousness of a god and baffles him to such a degree he can't complete his eradication of all life until he understands why and that's our path to victory. But there are too many dangling threads that didn't get a resolution, maybe that'll be a next season thread, or even a few seasons later thread, gods know RTD loves a Long Game, I just worry the time restraints put on the show (if they keep that) won't allow him to play those out satisfyingly.
RTD has said Millie Gibson will be back as Ruby in the next season, but as @markdale4538 wrote earlier, there will be a new/additional companion played by Varada Sethu (there was a set leak last year). Varada Sethu not only played Mundy Flynn in Boom, she played the rebel Cinta Kaz in Andor.
I do wish that during the episode there was an offhand reference to Traken or another previously destroyed planet being back to leave the door open on what was fixed. (Gallifrey, The Flux, etc). It would have been especially nice since the Doctor's guilt over the Flux was so firmly established in the 60th specials.
i hightly doubt thats what happend, the Death to Death thing only affected things actually killed by Sutrekh, it didnt just completely remove death. that be starnge cause then everyone who died lives again
Goddamn I hope they didn't fix gallifrey or the Flux. Gallifrey because it was already destroyed twice, we don't need to have it back and it would cheapen the time war arc. The Flux for similar reason, it's the only other major destructive event we've seen and it shouldn't be cheapened. For once I wish the show would stick to the consequences of events.
At some point if RTD doesn't get the show cancelled first, another showrunner might pick it up or it could be in a book or audio drama, bit hold your breath to see anything soon. RTD has already dropped that toy and waddled over to the next thing.
RTD said they cut down to 8 episodes so that they can have yearly season releases!! so no more waiting 2+ years for the foreseeable future,, we’re gonna be getting consistent 8 episodes yearly, and then a christmas special on top of that
I feel like the Doctor HAS to go look for Susan now, right? Maybe for the Christmas special? They teased her so many times this season, and at the end when he told Ruby it would be best just to leave her birth mother alone, but Ruby ignored him and proved him wrong… surely that has to be a sign that he should also try to reconnect with his granddaughter! I just hope they don’t kick the Susan can down the road too long, Carole Ann Ford is already 84 years old…
i disagree, just let carol ann ford enjoy her retirement in peace , please dont let her final apperance as susan be asscoiated with tbe crappy disney brand dr who but rather be remembered by older fans who have fond memories of watching dr who in the 60's_
Is it possible Mrs Flood is somehow the "Master Mind" from the 2nd Doctor's story "The Mind Robber"? It's like she is telling a story about the Doctor, but Sutekh got in the way but once he was destroyed could go back to creating the Doctor's story. We have also had mention of something from each of the early Doctor's eras other then the 2nd. Susan and Celestrial Toymaker from the 1st Doctor, brigadier and UNIT from 3rd, Sutekh from 4th. I might be stretching things but I'm looking a little out of the box.
He was called The Master Of The Land Of Fiction, and turned out to be a random human who was freed. But also Sutekh wasn't sent into the time vortex at the end of Pyramids Of Mars and RTD just misunderstood the storyline, so who knows
@@strbourne it was actually a computer that had trapped the human in the Land of Fiction causing the human to mentally create things. The computer mind wanted the Doctor to take over because the Doctor could live for ever and the computer could bring what was fiction into the real world. So my "wild and probably not true" theory is when the Tardis in the Mind Robber was in pieces and wasn't put back together until the computer mind was destroyed. What if like malware the computer mind ended up being installed into the Tardis and when we had the creation of the two Tardises due to the bi-regeneration the malware "woke up" creating the memory Tardis where now it can capture the stories past companions and Doctor's are reminiscing about. So how would this effect Mrs. Flood? What if she's the first human to have touched the Tardis other then the Doctor "infecting" her with the computer mind of the land of fiction. When Mrs Flood wanted to know where this thing sitting on the sidewalk came from being nosey touched it. And being human can get dusted. I like the theory of Mrs Flood being the God of Stories but can a God become dust? So I'm just putting out another weird possibility.
I just wanna know why the memory changed in Space Babies. I’d be okay if she did the dramatic pointing from the start, but the memory changed, and she wasn’t pointing in the original one. So what changed the memory? And how does Ruby make it snow?
