Doctor Who Review - The Doctor Falls 

"The doctor's dead, he said he hates you" "The doctor's dead, he said he hates you" "Ye I heard it the first time"

I think the Master's and Missy's fate is the best part of the episode, it truly portrays the character for what it is, self-destructive and while I would've loved Missy working with the Doctor that truly was the perfect end to her arc as a character

I agree with a lot of what you said. This definitely held up as a finale. But I disagree with your point on Simm. At the start of the episode, he had a wonderful "Master" moment with The Doctor tied up that I don't think anyone else could have pulled off. A lot of this season is about Missy changing, Simm served as the antagonist there - like the devil whispering in her ear. He was just there to play The Master, which he did wonderfully. That, and it bridged the gap, filled in the blanks. I really think this episode would have lost out on an awful lot without Simm.

I loved the episode, but one thing my daughter was quite upset about...Missi at the end chose the Doctor, and to try to be good, but the Doctor never knew. That really upset her that he didn't.

Season 10 was absolutely brilliant imo. I wasn't too keen on the other 12th doctor series', despite loving the acting of Capaldi himself. I think it was something to do with the general writing of the show. But season 10 was a great up to end it on, and honestly I would consider it Moffat's best work on Doctor Who as a whole. Something to really remember a great Doctor by.

Sean Pertwee is Jon Pertwee's son. They look nearly exactly the same and he can do a fantastic impression of his father's doctor. He's also a great actor (see his work on Gotham) and if anybody would respect Pertwee's Doctor it's his own son. The Third Doctor is one of my favorites and I would love to see him interact with a modern doctor, especially because he's so 70s.

Nearly cried at Nardole's goodbye- I thought it was a great final episode.

The Master killing Missy. I think they came up with that one scene, liked it so much that they just had to squeeze it into the storyline somehow. And while it was a great scene, a high light of the show, I think both Michelle and John deserved more screen time to build up the story around it.

John Sim played a great role, it was the right decision, I don't understand your logic, John Sim could still come back as a all you saw was him going down in the lift, he may be able to hold back regen like Capaldi. This is what happens Chibnall will have a plan, the shows safe for next 5 years

It really was one of the best season in the new doctor series

I think John Simm's Master was included to show how far Missy had grown as a character.

I think the Christmas special is going to show capaldi and the first doctor saving Gallifrey in the Day of the Doctor. In the first doctor's regeneration episode, he was injured and sick for reasons unknown before he regenerated. This might be the last adventure for the first Doctor as well, if they have him regenerate as well on the Christmas special.

Something must've happened in Moffat's past to make him pathologically incapable of killing off any of his main characters (in Doctor Who at least) and letting them stay dead - he always has to find a way to bring them back, ruining the dramatic impact of the supposed death. The full horror of Bill's conversion was brilliantly conveyed in World Enough and Time but spoiled (IMO) by her "fairy-tale" departure. I was expecting The Doctor Falls to be a train wreck but I think Moffat just about avoided that and, overall, I did enjoy the episode, despite its flaws.

I enjoyed it, even though it had a completely different vibe than last week's episode. But I still have some issues that made me cringe in disbelief: 1. How the heck does the Doctor's body stay in one piece in the middle of an explosion that ripped probably hundreds of Cybermen to shreds (as we clearly get to see, btw.)? 2. If the Master and therefore Missy doesn't remember the whole ordeal, how come, she has a spare dematerialisation circuit? Personally, I didn't like the cop-out with the pilot saving Bill. Why does it always have to be an "everybody lives" thing with Moffat?! I would have cried buckets and buckets, if the Pilot (can't remember her name) had been some sort of hallucination to give a dying Cyberman-Bill a moment of comfort. That would have been heart-wrenching in a good way. But that? I was just like: Please, don't let it be the tears that save the Doctor! And, what can I say? They did.

I really really want McGann to make a return at some point for an episode or two.

i have to agree on john simm, it was funny to see him interact with missy but he didn't do anything, but i accept it because the previous episode was great and he had a major role in what happens there. i hoped we saw him became gomez but i get that moffat wanted to leave chibnall multiple ways to bring back the master so we see him laugh and nothing else and we see nothing of gomez after she "dies"

I enjoyed Capaldi with Bill and Nardole so much more than 12 with Clara. I wanted more, and I'm sad I won't get that, but I'm glad we had this season.

I dont think Missys final moment would have been quite so powerful without The master being there.

First Man to walk the moon was Neil Armstrong .

I love the way John Simm Master interacts with Missy, also as she remembered being shoved against a wall (but not the part where the Master gets turned on by his next incarnations) I think that she may have remembered shooting herself with the laser screwdriver and had a plan for survival eg: having some sort of shield and pretending that the laser affected her

Only other classic Doctor recast and return I want is Sean Pertwee as my favourite classic, his father The Third Doctor.

I've been looking for a RU-vid channel that has Doctor Who episode reviews and I like what I've seen here so far. I commented on "World enough and time" review about how I at the time thought it wasn't impossible for spoilers to be leaked and gave an example and you in a civil and polite manner pointed flaws in my example and things I hadn't considered. I find it so rare to have someone politely disagree (most people will add insults in a disagreement) with you in RU-vid comment sections. That's just a couple of reasons for why I've subscribed to your channel, you have a fan in me. Keep making quality videos and I'll keep watching.

I much preferred the Doctor Falls to World Enough & Time.

The holding back regeneration idea is annoying. The whole point of a regeneration is that it is the last thing a time lord's body can do when near death. Of course it started with David Tenant's tour of old companions but it has been taken too far with the four or five onsets being suppressed in one episode. The re-appearance of the Pilot was a good surprise for me. It not only solved the CyberBill problem but gave a further explanation of the character and capabilities of that entity. I was sad that Missy was "killed off", although the possibility of "I had an absorbing panel in my back all along because I knew you were going to do that" is still there. It was a shame that the Master becoming a Time Lady was presented as a "that just happens" regeneration thing. It would have been better to have involved the Sisterhood of Karn, especially as Missy says "welcome to the sisterhood" to the Master.

I honestly would have preferred it if it had been the 8th doctor for three reasons 1 . Paul Mcgann still looks the part 2. He didn't get enough time 3. he is the doctor most lost himself in regeneration

I'm torn on the Bill send off. On one hand, unlike Clara, her death wasn't her fault and she really didn't deserve to go, on the other hand, just like Clara, Moffat doesn't seem to want to actually kill off a character (Missy doesn't count, they can always pull some bullshit with the master and it's excusable because it's the Master and River doesn't much count, due to wibbly wobbly stuff, the doctor still technically can see her again, though I'm fine with her send off in Husbands of River Song), and it really makes the show have zero consequence. Everyone is saying that it's sweet that she went off with Heather, but we only had one episode with Heather, there wasn't much there for us to care about. Another thing that bothered me was how inconsequential Missy and The Master were to the plot. They didn't do anything to the actual episodes plot, only their own plot. Other than that though, I loved it. The Master and Missy's chemistry was ridiculously good, the plot was good. The way they handled Bill was almost perfect (with exception to her send off), and I'm very much thrilled that the note we ended off on was not that twee send off. Thrilled to see the Christmas special. This is perhaps only the third episode I actually cried (The Angel's Take Manhattan and The Time of the Doctor were the only other times I've cried during the show, but that is because I am a cold heartless bastard), Missy's demise was incredibly tragic and I didn't see it coming at all (unlike apparently everyone else, I didn't know she was leaving the show). Great episode, tragic, hopeful, suspenseful and maybe just a bit twee.

TBH I kinda feel like Capaldi should've regenerated this episode

this is the best finale i have ever watched

I feel there was a good reason for Simms to be there, Missy was faced with the 2 versions of herself that she could be either the 'Doctor' or the 'Master'. About the 'master' coming back, if Missy could remember to have the TRADIS part she could also remember killing herself so she may have done something to she did not die or could regenerate which I hope does not happen as she grew on me.

Moffat got a blank slate with his companions, so why shouldn't Chibnall as well?

I fr think that matt smith would be amazing in this again and to have him back for maybe just a few more years would be amazing. I love the whole bouncyness and childish feeling of him and when he got serious it fit soooo well. But i hope they bring back the 9th doctor again because hes probably one of the best and could do this again

Reinvention has always been Dr Who's greatest asset. Just look at the excitement(especially in the UK) over the choice of the new Doctor,only James Bond comes close to that. Watching new actors grow into the Doctor is the most interesting part of the show for me, it's a great part for great actors who get to play with all their tools. Casting the part in your head is such fun,just how interesting would it be to see Tom Hardy in the part ? Or....Emma Thompson...Hmmm...!!! Hugh Grant !

It's sad to see nardole and bill leave I really enjoyed their roles in this season, I would like to see them return one day

This 2-parter was the best finale since season 5, which is my favorite finale, in my opinion. Fantastic episode overall. Peter Capaldi peaked again before his end, which was amazing to watch.

I would be funny if the end of the Christmas special was him staring to regenerate for real but they didn't reveal the new doctor till next season

I cried too this was really good

I felt that John Simms was crucial to this episode because it was like missy's externalization of her feelings. I felt it represented her struggle between good and bad and how she's always suppose to be bad. Like, the master never assumed she would turn good and I don't think she did either. So i do think brining the master back was like her almost reviewing herself and her past, and how she came to the realization that in fact it was where she was always going.

In the episode the Master asked Missy are you my next regeneration? She says she is not sure, so the Master can come back as a regeneration between the two of them. 👍🏻 I would like this because why should the Doctor run into the Masters regenerations in order?

I love how the different time zones thing remained important in this episode, and meant the cybermen kept getting stronger over little time, raising the threat in a reasonable way

The final scene. This is just after THE Doctor leaves the Snowcap base after defeating the Cybermen in the 10th Planet at the south pole (set in the year 1986) and before he regenerates in his Tardis so we get two Re-generations in the Christmas episode.

I think the Master was their more as an visual representation of Missys inner struggle. Its in the most real sense it can get her past catching up with her, making her doubt herself and backstabbing her. It wouldnt have worked that well without Simm being there, so I think he was necessary for Missys Arc, even though I widsh they would have used him more.

I glad they retcond the cyber origins (even marinas)

I don't agree with Simmon's master being not needed. I think to really see Missy's nature we 1) needed a counterforce to the doctor, tempting her back into old habits and 2) a mirror to show well how far she's come compared to her old self. Missy's change wouldn't have been nearly as impactful or clear if Simmon's master wasn't there. Not to mention how wonderful it all ended with the master self-destructing, which is very much a core part of that character.

I know this was 5 months ago, but i'm just getting started with watching your channel. Great work, by the way. You have a very diplomatic way of presenting your thoughts without demanding a rally. But question: am I wrong in my understanding that the Master (Sims) was the one to create the Mondasian Cybermen? Didn't his character contribute that to the episode? Not sure if classic Doctor Who ever touches on whether the Master came across them, so I don't know if this falls into the Bootstrap Paradox. But, if the Master created the Mondasian Cybermen, then that gives a really interesting muse; did the Space Shuttle that this episode takes place on escape and allow Mondasian Cybermen to return to Mondas and lead into "The Tenth Planet"? Because that would mean that John Sims' master was really contributory.

So are you going to do a 12th doctor's top 10 episodes after Christmas special?

I feel like Nardole could've stayed if it weren't for plot-specific reasons. Just like Jack Harkness, Nardole would've had a much easier time dealing with the Doctor's regeneration and he may have even been able to smooth it out to the point where we could have the most easy-going post-regeneration period for the Doctor, so that he'd step into his new adventure in Season 11 already fully aware of himself instead of trying to recuperate and save the world at the same time. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that, it's just that we've gotta have one smooth regeneration someday. And Nardole himself would be accepting of regeneration (seeing as how he can sympathise with the Doctor when it comes to changing faces), and that _does_ need to happen someday. So far all of the Doctor's companions in the revival have had a hard time accepting the new face, and it'd be really nice to see a change in that department. Now, I thought that the Master was a welcome addition, because he was so funny! _His_ gender should be "comic relief". I suppose I didn't notice the fact that he really didn't do much because I was too busy laughing at his jokes. Honestly, I think John Simm was a much better Master this time than he was in all his past appearances. But the whole "Master kills Missy" thing was really silly IMO, because while it _is_ symbolic of the Master not allowing himself to stand with the Doctor even if that's all he's ever wanted, it mostly felt pointless because the Master got out of really hopeless situations before, so everyone knows that he's coming back. My biggest criticism of this episode is that "Moffat's Magical Omnipotent Space Water" was just too bad of a plot device. Unlike the vast majority of people, I liked Hell Bent more than Heaven Sent, mostly because Clara got at least a somewhat decent ending as opposed to just dying. But I can't look at that objectively because I'm a Clara fanboy, so any scenario that at least gives Clara a good life before her inevitable death is good in my book. But with this episode's companion resolution, I didn't like the fact that a)Bill's not dead and b) "Moffat's Magical Omnipotent Space Water" is *SO* omnipotent that it can undo cyber-conversion. But I'm not looking at it objectively, either, because I didn't like Bill and I didn't like the Pilot. I mean, my favourite part from that episode (besides Classic Who references and Nardole) was the Mauvellan cameo. Yeah. Otherwise I agree with everything you said! The Doctor Falls not amazing, not at all bad, but could've been much better. Now imagine someday in the future some space explorer is gonna call a waterfall on another planet "The Doctor Falls" in honour of his idol the 88th Doctor, without knowing that "The Doctor Falls" was also the title for an episode in the Early 21 century Doctor Who era.

John simm in this episode is more of to show the change in the character, the master, especially, when Pcap did his speech. Not only the attitude changed, it shows where/when did the master may have regenerated into missy.

I think that Simm's Master needed to be there to show Missy's change and growth. It's a comparison, to see how DIFFERENT Missy is from different her previous regeneration.

Liked your review. Sean Pertwee, son of 3RD Doctor Jon Pertwee, ( who plays Alfred on Gotham). looks and sounds just like his father. I would have no problem with him as 3rd Doctor...if it ever comes up.......thoughts?

When it was leaked that the first Doctor would return, the leak Christmas synopsis did include the Master. If that were true, then we may see Simm return.

This may be my favorite season ender of the Modern Series, and very near a Top 10 episode for me, simply because of all the excellent moments throughout. I tend to disagree with people who say that John Simm's Master is superfluous, because his entire role is really to compare and contrast what Missy is now to what the Master was. She's still cunning, devious, and fairly insane . . . but she also has that almost-good streak in her. The key moment is during Capaldi's epic Be Kind speech, when Simm clearly doesn't care at all, while Missy listens but still, initially, walks away. His appearance here helps us to see the character growth, and to wonder if that will stick when the Master makes the inevitable return. Plus - it was fun seeing the two of them together. They had some fabulous moments together. Very much looking forward to Christmas, though very sad Capaldi is leaving.

I think you can interpret the Master "killing" Missy as him doing so because he didn't like what he had become, and saying she was going to die was something he did out of spite. He's too much of an egomaniac that he'd ever want to kill himself in the future. He did so out of spite like he was shortening that generative cycle, or that this incarnation had grown too soft and the next one that would come after Missy wouldn't be quite so much, which has as future born out to be the case. Either way, I really doubt the Master would truly want to have killed himself because it just doesn't fit with his character that he would so something like that

Clever boy

4:55 "The Master's coming back..." Didn't think it would be that soon, though.

There are at least 8 version of the Master we never have seen in any media so it might be a much younget Master the 13th Doctor encounter in a future episode 😉

Do you go with Tesla, wanting to send electricity to a planet where they are short of supply? Wouldn't Tesla's real life character and work fit well into the creation of a regenerated Doctor Who?

return of moist girl

I've a strand for you which might be retained for their 11th season: Murray Gold composing the music. That's a strand I want to stick around for a LONG time.

I believe that with the return of Davros that it's before the creation of the reality bomb. Although I'm not sure I haven't watched the episode in a while. If anyone could mention something from the episode that says otherwise to this theory than please let me know.

Really good review! I feel you on many points, and I do hope the BBC will keep the secret about who's going to be the next Doctor.

And the two masters thing was wasted too. How could the Doctor be stupid enough to ask the younger Master to stay? He has to leave, to get away, to guarantee Missy exists. The dangers of meeting one's self is casually ignored. If the younger Master dies, Missy doesn't exist and kaboom - massive damage to the timeline. The kind of thing that is extremely dangerous (whenever the writers feel like remembering it is). Wouldn't it be better if they had actually gotten back to Mondas, and the Master/Missy did something as stupid as each killing the other which led to a timey-wimey explosion so powerful it wrecked Mondas's ecosystem and started it on its path out of the Solar System? Making the slow painful destruction of Mondas a Fixed Point in Time? THAT would have been epic and a gorgeous call-back to the original show. What we got was watered-down weaksauce.

Before I watch this, I gotta say that I can't wait to see your opinion on John Simm being brought back. Because in my opinion his return was wasted completely. I mean, he befriended Bill in a decade-long plan just so he could see the Doctor's reaction, and then once the Cybermen are turned on him like 10 minutes in, he just goes along with the Doctor and Missy without even *attempting* to kill him or sabotage his plans or *something*! That was such a disappointing end to his run. EDIT: You at least seem to agree with me on how useless his inclusion was, especially for something that was a multi-Master story. Also, I really don't think that parallel evolution theory holds up for the alternate universe version of the Cybermen given that we never saw them in this world before this.

I definitely agree on Simm. He felt too underused for large points of this episode. On the whole though, loved it. World Enough and Time was better, but that goes without saying. Feeling sad though that so many characters are going, it truly is the end of an era. I was sceptical about Missy (back in 2014), Bill and Nardole when I first saw them, but I loved them all and they will be sorely missed. But no one will be as missed as Capaldi. Bradley was phenomenal in An Adventure in Space and Time, it is in my opinion by far Gatiss's best work for Who (not a fan of Victory of the Daleks, Sleep No More, Idiot's Lantern etc) so I'm expecting great things. You are right though, I know my dad will be outraged if they cast any old guy as the Fourth Doctor

I agree with your view of the Master in this episode. I love Simm's portrayal of the character and was really looking forward to his return. Unfortunately his return added nothing to the episode and the character became so one dimensional and campy it was painful at times. Over all the episode was good but nothing I would rewatch.

love your vids do you think simm changed into missy?

Bill's 'end' was a cop out, totally, and it was pretty much exactly how Clara left at the end of 'Hell Bent' when she and Ashildr run away in a TARDIS to explore the universe together. Both this and that episode were both written by Moffat which just goes to prove it was time he moved on, he has been repeating himself over and over in the last couple of seasons. This episode also ruined the build up of Missy, the best character in this season. We know now she had changed, we know the Doctor succeeded in making her good, but for the Master to kill her and prevent her regeneration was a mistake. You do not kill a character as good as Missy (well unless Michelle Gomez didn't want to come back), especially when you already have so much emotion in this episode with Nardol leaving, the Doctor dying and Bill ... doing whatever it was that happened to Bill. They could of let Missy escape somehow, maybe join the Doctor and save him, something to keep her around. But The Master basically killing himself just showed what a complete psychopath he was ... although if he was so far gone he would kill himself then how the hell did Missy become good I wonder? The Cybermen, after such a big build up last episode are pretty much wasted in this one. They have no threat to them at all being blown up left right and centre and with the Doctor waltzing through the woods killing them off one at a time and none of them firing back. There were also, as per usual in this season, leaps of logic or ignoring logic altogether in this episode. The Doctor says if they take the lift to the bridge the Cybermen will have a thousand years to upgrade themselves due to the time difference, but if that's the case how have the Cybermen and the Doctor and Co. been using the lifts at all? Why didn't the Cybermen upgrade each other as they went along rather than some being old and some being new? That doesn't follow Cybermen logic which dictates they must always be the best they can be. How did they punch through the, what must have been, incredibly thick deck plates between levels so easily? If the Doctor and Nardol were using fuel lines under the deck plate to blow things up why didn't the entire deck blow? They are using FUEL lines?! And at the end, the Doctor blows the entire deck, everyone and everything dies, every Cyberman left ... but Bill survives? How exactly?

I feel like harold saxon killing missy was perfect. I like to think she remembered that being there as harold saxon and may have really wanted to stand by the doctor at the end, bbut know she couldnt. And head canon maybe saxon decided to blow up everyone making missy saving the day on some level.

I thought it was good, but not as good as the previous episode. And like you, I also think that the Master will be back eventually even though we've probably seen the end of his Missy incarnation. I also felt like Simm was a bit wasted here. I liked the way Nardol left, but I'm a bit conflicted on Bill's exit. On the one hand, I do like the way she left with Heather to explore the universe, and it left the way open for her possible return in the future. But on the other hand, it's a classic Moffat move- Kill off a companion without actually killing them off. Amy, Rory, Clara. Even River. He just can't seem to kill off his any of his characters. It would have been a ballsier move to just let Bill die as a cyberman.

Easy way to bring the Master back or another Mistress is make Missy not the next incarnation after Simms. Reveal there were other incarnations between them and they had run ins with future doctors.

really stupid thing for me to notice but the laser screwdriver also has sonic settings it shows that even though the master hatse the doctor he is still copping him and the doctor has copied the master by putting a sonic beam weapon in his screwdriver

I think they will solve it that way: since there is cry for a female doctor, and they force Bill to be the most liked companion, plus the line: I don´t want to live,if I cannot be myself... smells sooo much like Bill is going to be the new Doctor...

You see, as already said, I too believe Simm's appearance is a set up - that he will in fact, return to the series full time - the very fact you DIDN'T see him regenerate ;-)Guys I'm still confused as to why the original crew of 20 that went down just stayed down there rather than just coming straight back up? Maybe it was due to harmful effects of time dilation? Also, the ship was coming from Mondas, the crew were Mondasian -- so WHICH PLANET were they actually heading to, where colonists were....?

If they really feel the need to bring past Doctors back, I hope they get Sean Pertwee to do the part of the third Doctor. He looks so much like his father, he could pull it off. IMO.

A way they might work round the whole "dead master" thing could be that john simm has a couple more regenerations before missy. That could work but it would have to be a really good actor and a really good story. just thinking

it would make for an interesting regeneration story for the next doctor in where the doctors turns back then forward because of something

I enjoyed your review of The Doctor Falls, and agree with much of what you say. For me, World Enough and Time and The Doctor Falls were the best episodes of what I found to be a very average, underwhelming season. That being said, I know mileage varies for each viewer, and what I think was average, others will think of as outstanding. And I am very much looking forward to the Christmas special, which, for now, I will call The Doctor's Last Stand.

I really wish that they’d tried to hush up who would be playing the next doctor until the Christmas special aired. I can just imagine how shocking Capaldi’s regeneration would have been if I hadn’t already known that he was going to become a women, but I doubt that anyone had that experience and it seems almost impossible that a new viewer would be able to watch enough of the show for that scene to have meaning without also finding out who the 13th Doctor was at some point

My least favorite part of this episode was the part when Missy explains why she can't remember anything that happened. (I'm kinda hoping she used that explanation to throw her old self off the scent. Maybe she rigged his weapon so he'd use it, thinking it was lethal, but she altered its setting, while he wasn't looking?)

Here's is is a great recommendation if they need an actor for the third doctor. Sean pertwee, son of Jon pertwee. After what I've seen him do in Gotham he's perfect for the role. Just get him a wig.

12:13 that's why I don't really like the idea of the Curator. I'd rather think that a future doctor grew annoyed with humans and picked up the fourth incarnation as a companion. You could even give him a better death, and then send him back to his last story but this time we see shots of him holding back a regeneration.

I'm really happy that Bill got to end up with Heather, and I think that they executed it really well. Gonna miss her.

Did anyone catch how the Master survived the End of Time part 2? It's a question I've wanted answered for some time and I don't know if it was in this episode.

Missy could easily come back - she would have remembered the event and made plans to protect herself when it happened from her point of view. Easy!

does pjt anyone realise thst the saying where there's tear.... it is also a hidden reference to the ere doctors regeneration?

Thank god we don't have to worry about stupid nitpicking anymore!

It must be so hard to wrap a series up. It wasn't as good a the last episode but it was a good ending - and we rarely get them. I can't see them re-casting Classic Doctors except maybe Sean Pertwee as Three because I think he really wants to do it and like David Bradley, it'd be a respectful homage not a stunt.

I disagree John Simm is always a delight and him and Gomez together was fantastic. It was the perfect ending the past Master kills his future rather than stand with the doctor is so fitting of his Master. I do agree I am really gonna miss Missy though

I agree always move forward with the generations and I agree doing that with the first doctor seems OK but I couldn't see it with the other doctors

I actually would like for someone to come in to play the Delgado version of the Master for a future episode, perhaps a future Christmas special

Where can I buy that screwdriver????

there were a lot of things i did not like about series 10... but this was a nice way to end it and i can look back and be, "that was a solid season." i am very much looking forward to where the show goes from here. hopefully there is a companion i can care about a bit more. (i know in one video i mention how much i was disliking her character, but said she had sparks of energy, or something, she did very very well in this episode.) loved the tie back to the first episode in the series. i really enjoyed the simms part of the story. yay just being stuck somewhere!

Don't regenerate the current Doctor into past Doctors, as it is just a bad idea. But Baker's "You may find yourself revisiting a few, but just the old favorites, eh" and your worry now has me paranoid worried... Hopefully, he meant literally revisiting like we are about to see this Christmas with Nu1 Doctor. Hopefully.

I think John Simm's Master showed in real time, what an evil, uncaring, narcissistic jerk the Master is. For Missy to actually be so changed, that her "Master" was willing to stand with the Doctor, only the Doctor will never know, because the Master killed her before she could stand with him, is only evident when you see what a horrible jerk the Master has always been.. That Missy willing to stand with the Doctor is a huge thing, since it is a really big departure from the nature of the Master. For those who do not know the older versions of the Master, I thought it was a perfect play off of each other. And the point was for it to be a "Day Of The Master" kind of episode, to showcase the Master, period. And I think that Missy remembered changing form the Master to Missy quite clearly and that she knew all along she was going to cause him to regenerate into her. Or another version of the Master, since they hem-hawed around her being the next incarnation). She even said that bit about the scary woman telling him to make sure he had a replacement dematerialization circuit, implying it was her version of the Master that told his version of the Master to make sure to always have a spare circuit on hand.

On demand tv it's not watched the same these days, it's one of its biggest exports,, do you know about consolidated figures. The average audience in the U.K. Foe tv is 4-7 million Coronation street and Eastenders struggle to get 6 mill a week and they used to get 10mill plus a week. There are more channels these days it's on Netflix etc. It's one of the bbc s profitable. Programmers and I think considering they don't get a budget that a program like that deserves I think it does well

I am gonna miss the 12th Doctor. I hate what they did with Clara, it is the reason series 9 is my least favourite series. I don't want Missy to go.

Missy's storyline makes no sense, we're never given a reason for why she's captured in the first place and simply left to assume it. The Doctor is well known enough that no civilization powerful enough to capture a time lord would ever actually think The Doctor would kill her. Also her change of heart has no meaning because of this. Yes she claims she'll change to save her life and that is most likely what puts the idea in The Doctor's head but the only reasoning we get behind it is that she wants her friend back. But theres no explanation behind it. Why would she care if the Doctor is her friend anymore? The time lords are now more similar to her then The Doctor is. The origin of their friendship has been tied to the idea that they were similar. Both brilliant and both rebels against the boring time lord society (albeit in different ways). And while you could argue The Doctor's motivation in turning Missy to his way of thinking is based on her as a stand in for the corruption the Time War placed into time lord society and The Doctor having a chance to fix it; there is no reason for why Missy should seek his approval when she now has plenty of other time lords who think as she does. Also she never has a true moment where it would make sense for her to turn to his side. Any goodness she shows is motivated by either survival or her own greed. In the season finale she finally decides to honestly stand by him, not because she genuinely cares about the people who are going to die or because she's learned anything, she simply states its because "its time to stand with him". That is lazy and cheap as far as character development does. And while it is sort of funny that this sparks a murder/suicide event between them, that also makes no sense. yes The Master has always been sexist and the idea of him becoming a woman is probably disturbing to him not to mention the decision to join with The Doctor, which John Simm's character seems a perplexed as the audience as to why. Shooting him/herself makes no sense other then simply for the sake of symmetry. This again is lazy because it serves no other purpose then to create a moment without anything behind it. The Master values survival above all else. When he "died" in Last of the Time Lords, he had a backup plan to survive. And while Missy might, why would the Master risk it? And if he does think she has a way to survive as he always has then why do it in the first place? It becomes an empty move. Thats not to mention that the water creature suddenly going from monster in the first episode to rescuer in the finale is completely out of left field or how The Monks went from a terrifying force to just another invader or how one dimensional Bill was as a character, compare the amount of exploration she got with Rose, Martha, or Donna. Under Moffatt we just had "The Girl who Waited", "The Impossible Girl" and now Bill who just seemed to be whatever that episode of the week needed her to be... So yes I agree completely and I really hope Moffat does not return for the next season. A female Doctor needs to be done correctly and I do not think he has the skills to pull it off. Lastly, why did Bill fear Missy so much? When Rose feared the Daleks it made sense because she had been through some truly horrific events and she knew what they had done to The Doctor's people. Martha's hatred for The Master made sense because of all the horrific things he did to her and her family. But Missy never did anything that bad to Bill. Yes she was willing to sacrifice her but it was to stop an invasion. She never had experiences with her like Clara did who had real reasons to hate or fear her. It was so empty a statement because it was never earned at all. Some questions left to ponder: Why did Missy try to trick the Doctor into killing Clara if the whole point was to pair him with someone who would corrupt him by driving him to break all his own rules? What idea did Missy get from The Daleks on Skarro? Why was it never explored? Theres more but I think this is enough to make the point, let's hope the new crew can make a turn around.

Bill is returning for one last hurrah in the Christmas special.

I knew she wasn't really fixed and as soon as the woman backed off in fear I knew I was right. There's a lot of things I like about this episode. Missy's arc, the goodbye with Nardole, Bill all throughout, Bill and Heather coming full circle. The cybermen were boring, but in fairness they weren't really the point. John Simm's master's characterization was off to me. Idk what was it, even, was he not too crazy or was he just stubborn for no good reason? I don't even mind him being that way or what he did, just the way he went about it felt wrong and phoney to me. I feel like John Simm's master's arc was ruined by this episode, he was much better when we saw him before. Also, "I will never stand with the Doctor" makes no sense after we saw his previous interactions with the Doctor in series 4. I can still buy the Master shooting his future self in the back, but honestly this was just kinada meh to me. I 100% agree with you about the Doctor not regenerating into an actor that's already played the role. I'd love to see some of them in side role perhaps (and bonus, the Doctor going "you remind me of someone? oh, never mind, things to do!") but not as the Doctor again.

I wonder how many of the shows like Arrow,Flash,Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow etc run for more then 10 Seasons let alone 54 years. Walking Dead is probably the exception but even that's slowly going into decline.

12:10 how do you feel about the Curator then?