Capaldi’s Doctor says to Clara at the end of his first episode - “You can’t see me. You look at me, and you can’t see me.” And that’s exactly how he leaves her - looking at her, and not seeing her. Every time I watch Hell Bent, or see a reaction to it - it just solidifies my opinion that it’s a masterpiece
Well damn it. As if the episode already wasn't a knife to the heart..you just made it worse for me lol (worse in a good way...since unlike the legion of Clara haters I like this episode, but more painful since I'd never realized that until you pointed it out)
This! The complainers in the main I think are salty because they wanted a gallifrey timelord centric episode instead, but I love this conclusion. The Doctor was broken and what we got is a much more interesting story to me.
It wasted the entire return of gallifrey. Suddenly it’s just there again. You can come and go as you please. And they ruined a perfect send off for a great companion. On top of one of the best seasons since it rebooted which only made the disappointment of this episode even more. Also the hybrid plot line made no sense
@@nich6200 I can see the frustration about the Gallifrey return, but when thinking about it, it would feel too cheesy to have a nice, warm welcome-back. I think because this was more effective because it was unexpected, but idk. I personally loved this send off for Clara over face the raven. The fact that he forgot about one of his most influential companions really tugged the heart strings for me
@@nich6200 The Hybrid plotline made perfect sense and tied in amazingly with the themes of the season. The Hybrid ending up being the Doctor and Clara's destructive and unhealthy relationship was the perfect way to cap off a season that dealt with that
When they told Clara how long the Doctor had been in there, Jenna really sold the nausea and heartbreak hearing something like that would cause, without overplaying the emotions. One of her finest moments.
yea but the problem with that is, he wasn't really in there that long it was in a loop and since the time relooped it didn't continue. Time didn't pass on the outside either so he relived the time over and over a different him each time a total of 4 1/2 billion years total, but HE didn't live or even remember that long, he only lived and remembered that one single timeframe. If you looped a day and it started over at the beginning each time and you were reset each time, you would only live a day/remember that one day, the other 4 1/2 billion days didn't really happen, that day just relooped itself that long, and you didn't experience 4 1/2 billion days.
@@eolsunder he did remember the 4.5 billion years actually. You are correct when you say that his memories were relooped at every teleportation, but when faces the wall, he remembers every memories of his past selves. It has been hinted in the episode that the doctor can create a telepathic link with objects, like the door at the beginning of the episode. Punching that wall for so many years must have left quite a trace in it. So when he faces it, everything goes back in his face, he even says it : "That's when I remember ! Always then ! Always then... always exactly then !" and it case you may still have a doubt, he also adds "But I can remember Clara. You don't understand. I can remember it all. Every time". He doesn't just figure out what is happening when facing the wall, all his memories come back and put him in a state of shock. When everything comes back he even makes a fist just by reflex. And the weight of all those memories coming back even knocks him out for a few minutes, which is why he ends up on the floor when the creature comes for him. So in the end, the doctor that ends up destroying the wall DOES carry in his head those 4.5 billion years of punching through it.
“I saw the birth of the universe and I watched as time ran out, moment by moment, until nothing remained. No time. No space. Just *me*” Rings of Akhaten
This arc is one of the best of the show cause its character driven. It's not saying a word over again like a game of where Wally in the RTD era. It's not anything too complex like Matt Smith. It's an ambiguous tale about the Doctor and his companion and the danger they can pose to each other and it's all the better for it.
“The Doctor isn’t half human” actually they tried to make the Doctor half human, wanna day it was the 8th doctor that makes a comment about a human mother but didn’t really stick after that doctor so oh well, your comment made me think of that. If the next reaction is to Husbands if River Song I will be VERY excited, the best Christmas special out there in my opinion
George Linford personally I forget to count the Day of the Doctor as a special, it’s such a big phenomena that I don’t think “special” covers it. So you’re right Day of the Doctor is the best but of the Christmas specials especially Husbands of River Song is best
A very satisfying conclusion I don't feel the Doctor could have handled losing Clara so the mind wipe to forget her was the only way this Doctor could ever return to how he was. How good was Season 9? One of the best in Modern Who. I loved Clara she was my favourite Modern companion
These kind of character pieces, where plot and story take a backseat, are pretty unique to the Moffat era, and i can understand why some have a hard time enjoying them. If you're not invested in the companion and don't really care about character development for The Doctor, there's not much for you.
I think this is a pretty astute observation that I'm kicking myself for not noticing before. They're pretty in-depth character pieces stuff to be fair which doesn't always make good casual TV, which is the one criticism I'd probably keep. Heaven Sent being perhaps the best modern Who episode is an example of that; yes it has great acting, directing and music, but where it really stands out is when you have that deep connection to the character.
@@gogogamma1186 You could possibly argue that Vincent and the Doctor was the first one, but it actually has some plot. Let's Kill Hitler, though, is pure character development for River Song and minimal plot (introducing The Tesselecta).
Can´t wait! I hope, he loved it, this episode has gotten WAY too much hate from the fans, but has developed to be in my top 3 most favourite episodes of all time over the years!
4, 6 and 9 are my three favourite seasons! What a great end for Clara this was. I still wonder how many adventures she went on between heartbeats with Ashielda. How many more lives she saved before going back to the raven.
I know her name was Clara. I know we travelled together.... She told me something very important, but I have no idea what she said.... how she talked. Or laughed.... There's one thing I know about her- just one thing- if I met her again, *I'd absolutely know.*
I never got the hate for this episode, but I am aware of it. Here's hoping it's just from a vocal minority, because I consider this to be Who's most underrated episode. I love it so much 😢😊
Oh thank goodness, you left "Clara who?" in the video. So many reactors leave that out. I know you have to leave out quite a lot but that moment just kills me every time.
When I first saw Hell Bent, I felt really underwhelmed because it completely undermined the whole hybrid plot and went back to the whole Clara thing, especially when you consider that it followed the masterpiece that was Heaven Sent. I was not a big fan of Clara, and the episode really annoyed me. But on more viewings of season 9 (hell bent in particular) and when you look at the subtleties of her relationship with 12, it makes sense why this was the right way to send off her character. Also, when you consider why he kept torturing himself in the confession dial, when all he had to do was tell the truth of what he knew and he would have been let off. He was doing all that, just to get leverage over the timelords and bring Clara back. That's why he kept going. That whole scene in the cloisters is what makes this episode great in my opinion. Yes, the episode sort of subverts your expectations, because you go into it anticipating a big showdown with the timelords, but it's about Clara. But if you just forget about the whole Hybrid thing and focus on the characters, the episode is really solid. Plus Heaven sent works as a standalone too.
I love it. Personally, just my own perspective, I don't usually care for the finales. They're usually a lot of what Shakespeare would call sound and fury. The threat is ultimately something that's what I call a non-threat. "The world's going to end!" No, it's not. "The Doctor's going to die!" No, he's not. Ultimately the show has to go on, so a certain status quo must be maintained. The Earth is not going to be destroyed, and the Doctor is not going to die, because there is going to be a next series, and the show must go on. Some people enjoy the _how_ of it getting resolved, but that bears little interest for me. I like stories about character. What I love about this three parter, and in particular this finale, is that it's entirely about character. It's about how much can a good man lose before he loses himself. The Doctor as a person can, and has changed, and the idea that he could become something monstrous has been with us for a long time. He's just one bad day away. And that is something that could happen. It _has_ happened. Those are very real stakes.
The diner they were sitting in was an actual diner in Cardiff ive been to, and its called bennys diner, and i sat in seat 11 where 11 himself sat in the impossible astronaut.
Aunchient Pistol it got shut down recently due to loss of money despite popularity, i could actually see the experience from the front window, oh and they had a Tardis door for the bathroom.👍
The whole "Why would you do that to yourself?" and "Duty of Care" bit hits me so hard now compared to when I first saw this. Not surprised that it's a polarising episode.
Did you catch how he closed the TARDIS doors with a finger-snap exactly how River Song taught him to before the end of Forest of the Dead? Acknowledging two lost loves in one fabulous final scene.
next christmas special is really something and then you're on to season 10 which i think is iffy but lots of people love so we'll see but keep up the good work
I have finally realized I don't actually hate all of the Time Lords. Only Rassilon and the Council of Karn(?) (Not sure about the name of that last one) Yes, it was Clara's choice to take that timer, but that timer should not have been used at all. And I feel like it was Rassilons idea. All he had to be told at that point was that he could go back to Gallifrey and he likely would have gone willingly. They didn't need to threaten someone's life. The only thing they accomplished using that method was killing Clara and making him very very angry with them. The storyline ended alright and we got the closure we needed, but I don't think I would ever be able to forgive Rassilon.
Just a few quick notes. The Doctor is technically still the president of Gallifrey and he saved it so I'm not surprised the solders would kill him out right. The 4th was elected but the console and 5th was still acting president before the time war. It's the first TARDIS! Think about this. The Tardis she is in now is the same one that she will tell the first Doctor to steal from Gallifrey in the past. Last thing, I still think Clara and River are connected and possible the same person. I just remember how River looked at Clara the first time she saw her and how she said to the 11th " how can she be dead if we are still talking. It's just a thought but I think Motif's plan was to go in that direction but that all change when he was replace and Clara stay on longer than was originally planned too. Love you reactions sir, keep up the good work.
Yeah you’re not alone in the frustration, calling this a cop out, but this does show a dark side of the Doctor that he doesn’t want to lose another companion
Series 9 is peak Capaldi. The first four eps of series 10 are very hit and miss. The season is quite inconsistent, but the last two and twice upon a time are incredible
I was in the unenviable position of having watched this episode when it first aired, and to this day this episode feels like a big "Fuck you" to many of us fans who were invested in the return to Gallifrey storyarc we thought we were gonna get. It remains a polarizing episode amongst the fandom.
All this time that the Doctor has been waiting just to save Clara is that men do it. The doctor is a gigachad yisus. The end is the best clara have all the time that she want is frozen
Season 8 doctor didn't know if he was a good man... season 9 he tries too hard to be a good man and it has its consequences.. season 10 he becomes a truly good man
I loved this episode. I love how well capaldi plays broken?? He really captures a similar energy to waters of Mars 10 but in an 'older' way if that makes sense? Less manic movement more deep rage
_Will you tell her, what you are going to do?_ _Of course!_ _When?_ _....now..._ THE MUSICAL CUE RIGHT THERE AT THAT POINT JUST *ALWAYS* KILLS ME!!!!.........
That part at the end where he says he'd know her if he met her... what a twist of the knife that's already been plunged in your heart. UGH that gets me every time. 😭😭😭 Series 9 ties Series 4 as my favorite of New Who. SOOO GOOD!!!!
It comes full circle here. When 12 and Clara first meet, He says "You look at me and you cant see me. Do you know how that feels" Now she is the one in that position.
When Jenna Coleman turned away from the camera at that moment, you can see she's wiping tears from her eyes... then turning back after she's composed herself.
The "cylinder" TARDIS is its default, base appearance, before the chameleon circuit is activated. You can see this form also in the "The Name of the Doctor" when Clara tells the first Doctor he's picking the wrong TARDIS.
Nice parallel with Clara's last line in Hell Bent being the same as the Eleventh Doctor's last line in Day of the Doctor, both of them saying they're going back to Gallifrey "the long way round."
@I Exist Indeed. It's just that I've noticed an overlap between a dislike of Clara and an exaggeratedly negative view of this story. I certainly don't think Hell Bent is a classic, but for some to call it one of, if not _the_ worst story ever is, I feel, entirely disporportionate.
Jenna Coleman was always a good actress, but Clara was written as way too much of a Mary Sue at the beginning, especially with 11. But her chemistry with Capaldi was there from the first, and I think writers responded by finally giving Jenna a character she could sink her teeth into.
I'm so glad that people appreciate this episode. It's really underrated, but it has some really heartbreaking moments. I think the reason I love this episode so much is because it adds so much depth to the 12th Doctor's character: That he would go to such lengths to save his friend, and the way he uses his grief as his weapon to do so. I think if you didn't already love 12, you definitely would after this 2 parter. I wish I could have a friend like the 12th Doctor! :D
Officially, the only three part story in NuWho is Utopia/The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords, even the monk episodes are officially considered separate, but yeah you can think of them like that if you want :)
Eh, wasn’t too big a fan of Doctor Mysterio or Season 10 (aside from the two-part finale, which is in my top 10 episodes for sure). Better than the ones following it sure, but my least favorite of anything before Chibnall’s era. Why do people like it so much? (Just curious, no offense intended.)
Noah Crook season 10 wasn’t exceptional by any means and had some really boring episodes. Buttttt when you go back over them there’s a lot of genuinely decent ones. Bill is a great companion and tbh the season finale two parter simply is one of the best of all time.
@@alexhodgkinson6718 no you dont. there are no good reasons to dislike it other than waaaaa it didnt go exactly like i wanted waaaa why dont i just have loads of shallow fan service like in series 4 waaaaa. you cant objectively criticise anything in hell bent. there are no actual flaws. the writing is flawless and incredibly thematically weighty. like saying oh they shouldnt have brought back clara isnt a good reason for not liking it. its a reason but its not a good one because objectively her story was most completed thematically by bringing her back (regeneration). so thats not a flaw or reason to dislike it.
@@alexhodgkinson6718 i doubt it dude, every complaint i hear about this episode is just whining something didn't go there way...this episode beautifully captures the doctors desperation for not losing another companion, clara may not be everyone's favorite (i quite like her) but you can't deny after the series of losses the doctor has been dealt with his past companions he wasn't ready for clara who is arguably the most important person in his life cause how she went into his time stream and was there since the very beginning. its one of the best episodes of new who, period.
@@dutchman8887 Nothing in art is flawless and there's always good reasons to dislike something. And yes, my problems are with Clara because she's an awfully written character. First thing we have with Clara is the Doctor being obsessed with her, and her being the most important thing to him. Then in Name of the Doctor, she saves his life over and over again, being embedded in his history at every turn and saving every sign me of his incarnations. Then she's the saviour of the day in the 50th, which I didn't mind so much. But then, in Listen, she literally makes the Doctor the man he is today. She's the reason he is the way he is, and her speech to him is a code he lives by. Thanks to Moffat, she is now the sole reason the Doctor is who he is. Then Hell Bent comes around and she's literally the other side to the doctors coin, apparently. She makes up half of the Hybrid, and is more important to him than any other companion, because he wouldn't go that far just to save other companions. He didn't break all laws and do so much to try and save Adric, or get back to Rose or give Donna her memory back. Now I've watched every single story of Who since it's inception, and Steven Moffat is my favourite writer the show has, but here I just think he really screwed up
I never got the hate for this episode. The people complaining about how Clara's ending in Face the Raven was perfect - that's exactly WHY this works so well. It ties so well into Husbands of River Song and season 10. The lesson of this season for the Doctor was quite simply "times end, because they have to". The way it was executed, and of course Peter and Jenna's chemistry, was sad. And it was beautiful.
@@oddjob5589 it was a joke. I'm sorry if it wasn't obvious. I do respect people's opinions and when my opinions conflict with others in RU-vid comments I have respectful debates that last hours. I understand why people don't like this episode and that is completely fine I just like to think I'm funny sometimes.
