DOCTOR WHO | SERIES 2 THOUGHTS | Episodes 2x7 - 2x13 

Nearly 17 years since I've seen the Bad Wolf Bay goodbye scene and it still makes me cry so wouldn't worry about the editing tears 😂

David Tennant dreamed for years to be the doctor. He watched it as a kid. Thus was his dream role. And he totally settled into it.

Quick point. Pete's world would have been impossible to travel to and from if the Dalek ship hadn't broken a path through. Similarly, it wasn't that there was a gap that wasn't affected by the closure of the walls between universes, but that this one bit was still closing-- indeed it closed up while he was talking.

I think the way the Doctor brands things as "impossible" was explored really nicely in the Satan Pit. There's that bit where he's abseiling into the pit and talks to Ida about his beliefs and the rules people make for themselves. He says something about that's why he keeps on travelling - to be proven wrong! But even after everything he's seen, he refuses to believe the Beast when he says he was imprisoned "before time"...

I agree it'd be iffy for Yvonne to transcend Cyber conversion through sheer willpower but this has made me think: her tear wouldn't actually be a tear in-universe, it just resembles and represents one to us, which means that it's actually genuinely an oil leak, which shows that she's broken internally, hence why she's not conforming as she should. You could infer that her conversion was a botch job because of the unexpected kerfuffle going on with the Daleks. So, it kind of explains itself, albeit probably accidentally.

Crying and having real emotions is mostly the reason people watch reactions, because we all felt that way watching it too. Sometimes just the first time, sometimes every time. Never apologize for showing your feelings in reactions videos. There are certain episodes I watch multiple reactors react to just to have someone to cry with.

Something to note: there are some scenes in Doctor Who that will always make you cry, no matter how many times you've seen them. Good luck on avoiding spoilers. People seem to not be able to hold their tongues sometimes, so hopefully you don't get any huge ones revealed.

In case you don't know, Fear Hear aired 6 years before the London Olympics. I think it was written just after they announced the hosts for 2012.

Fun fact about that beach scene (if nobody has said yet), there was a poll for the SFX magazine one time (a big sci-fi centric one) about what the best scene in a sci-fi show is, and the beach topped it with over 100,000 votes. Considering it was a 2014 poll, I think Torchwood had already had moments that surpassed it for me, but I certainly can see why it won.

I love that when you talked about what you would have changed in Fear Her, (with the kid having loving parents but still feeling alone and with the idea of the kid putting her victims into a world in the wardrobe), you accidentally just perfectly described Night Terrors from Series 6😂

No spoilers here: Doctor Who has been very good at showcasing actors you may not have considered before, from hundreds of background parts over the years to some very diverse main characters. Catherine Tate is one who seems to play similar characters in everything she's in (mostly I didn't like) and many thought her a bad choice at the time, but I found her to work well as a counterpoint to David Tennent and a much needed contrast to Billie Piper's "Rose"... bear in mind Billie Piper was known as a teenage pop star with Doctor Who being her first significant acting role. So I hope you don't find Catherine Tate too harsh!

For the timeline on Love & Monsters on when the Doctor visited Elton as a kid, I like to think that the Doctor either follow the threat to his house and took care of it while Rose stayed on the Tardis sleeping or something (because the Doctor, I would assume, does not have the same sleep schedule) or the doctor may want to drop Rose off at Jackie's cause she misses her mom and will take care of small things on his own or they were site seeing and he visited his house and didn't feel the need to tell Rose about that sad thing that happened.

Fear her predates the 2012 olympics by 6 years

I have no issues at all with Love and Monsters, it's a great underrated story. Even better that it has ELO in it.

Jackie's escape might have been easy, but I think it is believable as she is in their blind spots - like the Daleks, the Cybermen can only see forwards.

When he says 'my world', I feel like he is talking about the entire universe rather than the Earth. The parallel universe certainly isn't his.

Just to your question about The Doctor's family background that's one of the questions as us fans don't ask we have never known in the last 60 years about his backstory and nor do we want to know because that takes away the mystery of the character its called Doctor "Who"? for a reason all we know is he's a Time Lord with two hearts who can regenerate when his old body dies or gets injured and that hes from gallifrey and travels in his Police Box and that's he's a grandfather that's all we need to know about him.

Would just like to say how much I love your review videos! Your thoughts are always so concise, nuanced and insightful and I genuinely enjoy listening to your thoughts on all the eps. I usually struggle with some reactors’ review videos because my attention span is just never there so I don’t watch many but I never find it a struggle to watch yours. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts going forward! :)

really enjoy the thoughts videos combined with the reactions really shows the complete whovian journey

"How do time lords procreate?" Oof you're opening a can of worms there. The novels established something, most of the time that gets ignored. Is it canon? Well we'll talk about that. "Is the Doctor Who movie canon?" No. Because there's no such thing as canon in Doctor Who. No one person or organisation can be said to own Doctor Who, including the BBC (they don't even own the daleks). As such, no one can decide what is or isn't canon. In Doctor Who, canon is whatever you want to consider canon. Which is a confusing idea, but there we go. What the movie _is_ however, is in the same _continuity_ as both the classic and modern era of the show. The modern show considers the TV movie as something that did happen to the Doctor. That does not mean, however, that every little thing the movie says matters to all of the showrunners who came after it. Some lore has been thrown out and ignored by future writers. Whether or not that lore is canon is, again, up to you. But no, it isn't about the Time War. RTD invented the Time War for the modern show (though it's based on some ideas from the books). Is the Doctor not always being right deliberate? Yes. I could elaborate on that but it would be minor spoilers so I'm gonna err on the side of caution and leave it at that.

Yvonne Hartman is a great instance of cyberconversion failing, because a strong sense of self/duty wins over the emotional inhibitor. You've also seen it in Closing Time with James Corden's character. I like the implication that the human spirit is difficult to suppress.

series 2 for me personally has some rlly high highs but some low lows either way i have a soft spot for it as i watched it a ton as a kid, and I really enjoyed watching you react to it! :)

Your thoughts about Love and Monsters made me happy. SEE -----> : D Anyway, I like how you still have a soft spot for Christopher. My eldest daughter feels the same, Nine is still her Doctor. Though I have 3 more daughters and a son, only 2 of them have Ten as their Doctor, one has Twelve and one has Thirteen. I think it's great this show can give different vibes to different people. Even in the same family! Cause in the end, they all really like all the Doctors anyway.

Series 2 was definitely the difficult second album - probably the most inconsistent series of the first RTD era. Series 3&4 are overall much stronger and more confident.

doomsday is one of those episode that will always make me cry. Rose always worries about the doctor being alone. She knows that he shouldn't be. She knows how lonely and sad he gets. It's not that she's worried he won't find someone else its more of when she found him he was very shut down and messed up because of the time war.

The reason why the Daleks keep coming back is because of a deal between the BBC and the Terry Nation estate (who own the rights/design rights etc to the Daleks). The deal is that the Daleks have to be used at least once a year - whether that’s a story or a quick cameo - otherwise the BBC lose the deal to use them. It’s been like that since 2005. In classic Who the Daleks would disappear for years before coming back.

The cybermen don't erase your personality, they bypass it with the emotion inhibitor. If that's damaged, removed, or (presumably as with Yvonne) overloaded, the real, original human being is still in there, tortured by what they've become It's established in Age of Steel. Maybe the episode before that?

THANKS for this!!!!!

I know you've watched the start of New Who and I would definitely count Susan as a non-human companion, so yes he does have non-human companions. I think the TV Movie is mostly considered as canon, even though it's not loved by many (I think it's better than it was originally received to be honest though).

In terms of the Doctors life on Gallifrey/family before leaving with Susan its all in the expanded universe + different takes so handful of salt (even more so, since this was in the 90s Wilderness gaps between Classic Who S26 & the 1996 TV movie & new who S1, when Doctor Who content was by fans for fans, yet only some actually got together and group pitched ideas) and an element of picking and choosing. in some books Timelord Gallifreyans reproduce the usual way and in other books everyone is more in line with being cousins who all give a dna sample (e.g Cotton swabs of grandparents, Great Grandparents, Aunts Uncles, Cousins, siblings as well as parents, which then collected together & then that collection gets loomed together into a new adult being). 1 book that goes with the Loom reasoning also says Susan isnt a relation of the Doctor but is at the same time (based on Susans actual grandfather jumping into a loom and later getting remade as the Hartnell Doctor from the same loom). But most stories have the Doctor be Susans actual grandfather. Susan's granny was a woman called Patience and in the stories where Susan is actually the Doctor's grandaughter & timelord reproduction is same as real life, the child that the Doctor & Patience had was Susans father (at least at the time of Susans birth) The Doctor also has a brother, called Irving Braxietel who was often on Gallifrey but occasionally ran a museum that a McCoy Doctor companion, called Bernice worked for. In the 60s Hartnell & Troughton Doctor comics The Doctor had 2 more grandchildren, called John & Gillian (though no 100% confirmation if they were Susans cousins or siblings), but in the 90s-2000s McGann Doctor comics, says John & Gillian were a dream the Doctor has sometimes but its possible they were real and were on Gallifrey and the dream aspect was able to travel with more of his grandchildren. But dont have a set answer about what happened the Doctor's family on Gallifrey after he left+ during/after the Time War.

Sorry. 2 more things 😝 1) I love your series thoughts even more than your reactions. Reactions are wonderful for seeing someone's thoughts and feelings in the moment, but I always wish they would say more at the end or would go back to how the episodes tie together or compare to each other. So I love that you have the immediate response AND then think about it and ponder it a bit, then give us THOSE thoughts. 2) I don't hate the episode Bitten because it's different. But my passion for Supernatural is the brothers. I don't even like when Castiel has a main story point that takes away time from them. And I love Castiel. But I couldn't care two figs for a single character in Bitten, even when What's Her Name came back. I was angry that time was wasted on people I don't watch the show for. 😜

Sometimes the Doctor says something is impossible, and it is. We just don't know which is which straightaway. It is also to say that the Doctor doesn't know everything.

The movie technically is canon or both Chris and David’s doctor would be different numbers… and even If I don’t think that film is very good, I like the doctor from the film. However I think most of it just gets ignored

If you liked Elton, you could try watching the BBC show Hustle, as the actor Marc Warren is a lead in it and a pretty fun character (and as a show it rocks)

I really don’t mind you drawing comparisons to supernatural! I’m not too familiar with supernatural myself but I understand the shows can be quite similar in format and tone so I think it’s a more helpful comparison than a serialised show or thriller and approaching Doctor Who like you would supernatural is probably a good idea.

I’ve always thought Tennant looks too young in series 2. The same way Pierce Brosnan looked a bit too young/less rugged until The World Is Not Enough. Tennant compensates for it by looking a bit sad or blank (the swimming pool face off with Mr Finch; putting the yellow necklace around Rose before she banfs to Pete’s World). There’s a point in the middle of series 3, when the Doctor has a conversation about the Blitz and mortality and facing/avoiding death. And then he finally feels the right age for the part.

Something you should know about The Doctor. Rule one: The Doctor lies.

But thle kids were in the pictures.

Sometimes you have to suspend your disbelief. One things thats not a spoiler is it's definately never the end of The Daleks or the Cybermen. I tell every reactor this never over annalyze the timeline of Dr. Who because it never makes much sense anyway.

Mickey has really grown. He likes Rose, but she's not all he's there for. At the start of series 1, we never imagined him pointing a gun at Davros.

I hope you enjoy the Cult of Skaro's story. I'm sure you will like Donna, even if not in the next episode.

You have to remember they are British so they kiss a lot more lol that probably why rose didn't react

I don't see how an episode being different from the rest makes it so hated. Window of Opportunity from Stargate is one of the most loved (and is also basically filler).

Wow. That is weird. When you said you would rather still have Christopher? I actually literally, no exaggeration felt a sick feeling in my stomach. I can't even explain it. It was like I felt that you just watched greatness, and couldn't see it. I am so disappointed. I'm not blaming you! People like what they like, but that really hurt me. When I watched the series the first time. I really liked Christopher. And I really liked the show. A lot. And I didn't want him to regenerate. David converted me in one episode. With one line "Why is there an apple in my dressing gown?" I completely fell in love with him in that moment, and became obsessed with the show because of him. I recently went back and rewatched from the beginning and thought, "Oh, I forgot how good Christopher was. Why did I forget that?" Then I got to The Christmas Invasion again and remembered why. 😂 People seem to pick "their Doctor" and stick with it (I'm the only one I know who switched), so you might never get over Christopher's version, but I hope you can at least stop missing him enough to enjoy the other Doctors without always wishing it was him.

Controversial opinion but what really annoys me about Rose was she was too over-confident and has so much of an ego i thought she can be at times selfish and i did not like the way she treated Mickey or the way she spoke to Sarah Jane and what annoys me particulary about most of the modern companions in general is there always so unafraid when ever you meet an alien or a monster or on an alien planet i think i reality you be scared for your life at times and that to me is unrealistic i just i don't know i feel they get abit too intelligent at times and it makes The Doctor less if that makes sense.