Doctor Who: The Complete Story of 'The Master'

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@demi9571 4 года назад

Id pay money for a story where the Master needs to take over for Doctor and spends a whole season being the main character, failing constantly at being good, but failing with style.

@michaellooney7330 4 года назад

Like going through all the hassle and struggle to save some world, getting frustrated by having to deal with the "rules", then deciding that it was all so much trouble that the Master just destroys it afterwards anyway?

@emeraldkoala2 3 года назад

Get on it Big Finish!

@EvilGoat 3 года назад

We have the Lumiat, a "good" version of the Master, in the Big Finish Missy Serie 2.

@charlestownsend9280 3 года назад

That's basically the plot of the first series of big finishes war master series.

@the_blind_chick 3 года назад

There’s a really good fanfiction where this happens. Missy has to/chooses to take over in the absence of the Doctor.

@therealeikichionizuka 2 года назад

I well and truly believe that the story arc of “Utopia” is one of the greatest plot twists and TV setups ever.

@marcussterdy1702 Год назад

💯

@ddelarosa96 4 месяца назад

I was honestly super confused by how the people believed in Utopia existing and how it would have when the universe was done with, but I guess I must have just been the hope? But I am still left confused on how the Doctor believed in it at any point. Was there something I missed that explained its reasonability for potentially existing?

@yoweedmofo19897 23 дня назад

@@ddelarosa96 No; he only ever believed in it when he was in his human form. When his consciousness returned he was characteristically cynical about it

@mariodoomfist1049 3 года назад

So basically the master is the embodiment of "i DIED but I LIVED"

@WhitzWolf92 Год назад

"And then I died...I got better."

@gaminganimators7000 Год назад

Doctor: I thought you died? Master: I got better?

@Casanuda Год назад

The Master! But I thought you were dead! I WAS!!!!

@Atrus233 9 месяцев назад

The Doctor regenerates. The Master dies and then is reborn somehow. Both sort of cheating death, but one is doing it better.

@sethrowley8086 Месяц назад

The Master is actually the Courier from Fallout New Vegas?

@etherraichu 4 года назад

Time Lord 1: Hey, you know that amoral psychopath we have locked up for a really good reason? Let's release him to hassle the Doctor. Time Lord 2: That's the best idea I've ever heard in my entire life.

@joshuareynolds23 2 года назад

Yeah but, I can c0unt on one hand the number of timelords we have met and, most of them are amoral psychopaths.

@anhonkandae Год назад

This made my day lmao

@mpeladodo5080 Год назад

I can describe The Master's personality he's ruthlessly cruel, malevolent, megalomaniacal, mistranthrophic, insane, power hungry, psychopathic & wicked.

@NJ-wb1cz 17 дней назад

@@mpeladodo5080 if people can easily solve their relationship with themselves within like few decades, why can't timelords? It doesn't really make sense to have an old advanced being to obey their old emotions like they are a human child

@patchworkfellow 3 года назад

_“The Master took a different path to the Doctor”_ *Good grief, we’ve found a bigger understatement than the Titanic’s captain saying “That iceberg isn’t THAT big!”*

@MsCourier_ 4 года назад

It makes sense that shashas master comes before missy, the master says "dont even bother trying to regenerate you got the full blast" as hes crawling back to his tardis dying. He would the regenerate into sashas master while missy would be his last reincarnation.

@lawyerstuartloudon7316 2 года назад

I'd love Missy to be an early regeneration...

@jeffwalker7185 4 года назад

One problem with the Master (Sacha) being stranded on Earth after the Doctor outed him to the SS as a British spy is, he must have known many occasions when an earlier incarnation of himself was on Earth. For example, at Jodrell Bank in the 1980's when he was present for the fourth Doctor's regeneration. The Master has shown little regard for his previous incarnations and could have easily gained access the the Ainly Master's Tardis. He even mentions the Jodrell Bank incident to the Doctor (asking if he had ever apologised).

@SerifSansSerif Год назад

Outside of the obvious which comes from the struggle of multiple timelines in a show about constantly time travelling spanning multiple decades.... This was kinda shown with the master meets the master in various episodes

@tmntleo 4 года назад

The Master is basically The Doctor if they hadn't gotten companions to keep them sane.

@marknorth8904 3 года назад

If the Classis Series had gone beyond 1989, you would have found out the Doctor and the Master are step-brothers...

@CaptainGeronimo 4 года назад

So it all started with what Missy said " I need my friend back"

@HOTD108_ 11 месяцев назад

Not even close, but hey whatever.

@jhonmiths1344 2 месяца назад

⁠@@HOTD108_not even how you criticize someone, but hey whatever

@timrob12 4 года назад

The biggest twist with the current Master is that it turns out he directed the very first Doctor Who episode. But in all seriousness, I think that the Master will always keep on appearing, just like the Daleks. And we don't want it any other way.

@TheDidymusBrush 4 года назад

I still like to believe that the Sacha Master is actually pre-Missy, somehow, somewhere. The arc of Missy was a perfect end for the character, so I'd much rather one of the many holes in the timelines be where future incarnations are from.

@keelanbarron928 3 года назад

14:43 nice to know that they made the master look like Lex Luther.

@tintinbridges 4 года назад

Okay, the master is the doctors best and worst friend😂😂 like damn. The master is also really unappreciated 😂

@Dakham_ 4 года назад

Fr😂

@RD-uq4hg 4 года назад

There are so many different explanations to Delgado turning into crispy master idk which one is right, theres the Susan one where he was fighting her for the matter transmutor meaning crispy is delgado, there was the Doorway to Hell one where 12 defeated him and he ended up slightly burned and mortally wounded but started to regenerate (meaning he either attempted regeneration but botched it after the comic was over because h'd already run out and ended up in the decayed body or successfully regenerated and a later body became the crispy one or regenerated into crispy) and there's the Vampire Of The Mind one (on the Tardis wiki it states the Macqueen master burned him but idk if that means burnt to that point). But in any case I though the cause of crispy was he tried to regenerate when he had none left

@EditedAF987 4 года назад

The two masters actually suggested that Delgado and Pratt/Beevers were two separate incarnations as when we see the MacQueen Master burn his younger self on Terserus he’s played by Geoffrey Beevers

@joncarter3761 4 года назад

Going from Missy to the timeless child Master was a downgrade, really not enjoying the Chibnal era wrecking gold like Missy's character development from previous seasons.

@JEEEVANJOHN 4 года назад

Listen to the big finish missy chronicles series 2 and the episode, the lumiat and then you’ll understand how missy became the master.

@Jraff_97 4 года назад

Ok but let’s assume that simm regenerated to the spymaster and he was just like extra bad cause of what missy told simm, so that missy is a much future incarnation.

@RD-uq4hg 4 года назад

In Ravenous 4 Beevers master got killed by the Ravenous but brought back by the other Masters granting him more regenerations with a certain device used by Professor Artron, he regenerated into the Macqueen master though, meaning either the Roberts master was pre-crispy or Macqueen was Pre-Roberts

@EditedAF987 4 года назад

Roberts is still technically the crispy master, just possessing that body. In planet of dust the Beevers Master revealed that he eventually lost the Roberts body and reverted back to his 13th self

@blazepond5518 3 года назад

Story of Romana please!? soo good! thanks for explaining the transformation into Missy, great research skills, love it

@marknorth8904 3 года назад

Romana 1 or 2, or both?...

@blazepond5518 2 года назад

@@marknorth8904 i didnt know there were two! so both i guess hehe!

@gertchacowsongertcha 10 месяцев назад

Roger Delgado the one and only master

@lawrencelopez9839 2 года назад

I'm convinced the Master isn't really a timelord but some kind of reality bending creature that's like a Timelord but more OP. He would have been a better Timeless child

@Cheese_steak_ Год назад

I mean he could actually be the timeless child the Master is not known for being a reliable source of information. Also a large part of their story ark together is the master trying to get a rise out of the doctor

@kmw4359 Год назад

On some blogs the idea seems to be that yes there is “a” Timeless Child, but there were two children playing in that clip showing the Timeless Child and one fell … the fallen one could be the Master. (The inference being that he may also be a Timeless Child.)

@1990danyb 4 года назад

I like to think O's Master is before Missy. It doesn't feel right that we got all that character development simply tossed aside but then again can we expect that level of thoughtful writing from Chibnall at this point?

@ethancarpenter4401 Год назад

I think Davies will retcon it

@Shuffles_Art Год назад

In all honesty I feel like the entire era of Chibnall’s writing really doesn’t do the doctor or the master justice. The Master is just used as a 2 dimensional main villain for the doctor and all he ever really does is somehow manage to destroy Gallifrey out of nowhere and reveal the timeless child through the 10 minute monologue explaining everything. It all just feels really insulting to the material that came before it, and I hope that future showrunners will somehow be able to rectify it and redeem both characters.

@tardisglitch547 4 года назад

James Dreyfus is confirmed to be the first master and the other regenerations were unknown until Delgado as the final one of the first cycle.

@mattwho24 4 года назад

No, Geoffrey Beavers' incarnation is the 13th and Delgado is the 12th, as he is seen to regenerate after a conflict with the 12th Doctor.

@EditedAF987 4 года назад

Doctor_Who_Gaming actually Delgado hasn’t been specifically confirmed as the 12th. He could be any incarnation from 2-12

@tardisglitch547 4 года назад

@@EditedAF987 it is confirmed because they said in the deadly assassin that the master was trying to give himself another regeneration cycle, along those lines

@tardisglitch547 4 года назад

@@mattwho24 9h yeah, I forgot about that comic

@mattwho24 4 года назад

@@tardisglitch547 it's ok, and I really want to have that comic, it looks amazing!

@Bluthberries 4 года назад

So are we sure that Sacha Dhawan's Master is after Missy? It would make more sense character wise if he was before; considering Simm was still full of hatred for the Doctor when he regenerated.

@EditedAF987 4 года назад

Big Finish did introduce a new incarnation of the Master that comes after Missy so Dhawan makes a little more sense as a post Missy incarnation now

@HOTD108_ 11 месяцев назад

@@EditedAF987It's been confirmed on multiple occasions that Big Finish isn't canon to the show. It's basically just a form of sanctioned fanfiction.

@EditedAF987 11 месяцев назад

@@HOTD108_ confirmed by who?

@Prince__Teclis 7 месяцев назад

@HOTD108_ Sorry, but we have actual proper evidence Big Finish is Canon thanks to the Night of the Doctor mini episode where 8 becomes the War Doctor. He says this, "Good. Charley, C'rizz, Lucie, Tamsin, Molly, friends, companions I've known, I salute you. And Cass, I apologise." Literally mentioning his Big Finish companions by name.

@jzanimates2352 4 года назад

You deserve so many more subscribers

@bref.4340 Год назад

So 13 minutes into the video, when the Master is executed on Scarro, and he makes the request for the doctor to take his remains home, he most likely did this via a timelord confession dial. During Missy’s era, she explains to Clara that when timelords die, a confession dial is delivered to their closest relationship. The confession dial is a sort of will, stating the timelords last wishes. I wonder if all Galifreyans get this or if it’s just the timelords.

@Auron1Roxas2 4 года назад

There really is no proof that Missy is after saxton master, just like there's no proof that dhawan master is after missy. It's more than likely that Missy is the last incarnation of the master and is the end of the master completely(though that can also not be true but we don't know), and that the dhawan master is between missy and the saxton master. Or even before saxton, we don't know. Either way all those people complaining about missy's development being gone are really complaining over nothing.

@tardisglitch547 4 года назад

In the diaries of river song Eric Roberts was actually in an episode and seemed to be after the TV movie with the fact he is trying to escape the time vortex by building a tardis like machine

@BasicallyIIINobody 7 месяцев назад

Everytime I hear regeneration I think of the "I THOUGHT YOU DIED!" "I... got better?"

@LongingString 4 года назад

I love how chaotic the master is. He just dgaf.

@adamtimelordfishwick4003 4 года назад

Great video you did miss what happened in Mastermind but other than that great video 🙂

@R_SENAL 4 года назад

Oh yeah, I forgot about that, that is a glaring omission as well! Well remembered.

@TheVicarstownSentinel 2 года назад

Quite a good video- though there have been a few new Master stories since 2020, such as Masterful and MASTER! (Plus the ongoing War Master series)- but otherwise, marvelous!

@Sci-Fi-Mike 2 года назад

Great breakdown of the Master and his/her regenerations! I've seen a few other breakdowns with uncertainty as to which regeneration number belongs to each Master. It can cause quite the headache. 😀

@NobodyNobody310 Год назад

I would suggest putting a simple noise gate on your voice, or perhaps a DeEsser, so that inhales and exhales won’t be as distracting. Production notes aside, this is a wonderful biography of the Master’s life. I love this video.

@robgrant4857 4 года назад

The Master locked horns with the Doctor (Pat Troughton) in The Mindrobber.

@Super_Mario128 3 года назад

no, that's a completely different character.

@andreistoica2470 4 года назад

Even in this the Master mentioned both of him and the Doctor childhood because in similarity the Master sayed that he is booksmart like Twilight and Hermione he only mentioned that only in his 13th incarnation was like Sunset come to think he actually compared his other Doctor incarnation as a desguise to pretend to be a Doctors incarnation that was sayed by the 18 20th Master Samuel Anderson Simspon a name used as the rest of the name is a malezide version the name of Samantha Simpson from Totally Spies although no Anderson who this Master become Mayor in London UK returning to his former wife Lucy who was brought back by the 10th Doctor for the Master as he was oance married with her in saying Sound of Drums

@nightowl8477 4 года назад

Awesome video, guys! I love explanations of lore like these. I'm desperate to find out where Sacha's Master falls in the timeline.

@hichaelmartline 4 года назад

The BBC has, more of less, confirmed that he's post Missy when they did his Master History video after Spyfall part 1.

@Gazooka 4 года назад

id thought missy was permadead and john sims master regenerated into the timeless master?

@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914 9 месяцев назад

Darn.,... have you made a video with the rest of his story since ? The moment he was Rasputin... and then regenerated INTO the Doctor ? He was amazing as the Doctor !!! With Troughton's flute on the giant mushroom planet!

@Harold-Saxon 4 года назад

After watching how you show history of events and characters in their own respective chronology I would like you to make the stories of Clara Oswald (the impossible girl) and Riry Williams(his deaths always confuse me)

@thepolticalone961 2 года назад

The master of plot armour

@jinjaskillz2222 4 года назад

I love when you said I'll put a poll yeah they got rid of polls

@christopheranders6725 4 года назад

The top 3 were Rodger Delgado , Anthony Ainsley, Missy everyone else was ok and the worst was the last one 😁 my opinion

@anamartau4766 3 года назад

And i love Sacha aka the master

@andreistoica2470 4 года назад

His 18th incarnation changed bodied with Sonata 2 times and kissed the Doctor 2 times

@ethancarpenter4401 Год назад

I think the Power of the Doctor leans more toward Missy coming after Dahwans Master. She referred to being left for dead which she wouldnt be able to remember if she was talking about being Simm. But it would make sense if she was referring to Dahwan being left for dead on that planet after he fatally wounded 13

@robertcooper4th259 2 месяца назад

The master then fell in to an alternate universe where dragons were the superior beings on earth and renamed himself blister, pretended to be a woman and then he died and was used by Gerald Robotnik to create the ultimate life for on the space colony ark, then his remains were thrown out in to space and was found and resurrected by the toymaker and he begged to be put in the toy maker’s gold tooth

@andreistoica2470 4 года назад

While Sonata is a beautiful body not to steal he gave her body to the Doctor when he will die and the body of Sunset will be stealed by him after his 27th incarnation which will make Sunset the 28th Master and the last one similar on the Doctor incarnation 23rd will be his final incarnation and a possesed incarnation Sonata his 24th incarnation they will be both use this bodies to survive in which means Sonata will be the 24th Doctor and Sunset 28th Master

@mountaintiger6945 4 года назад

The next regeneration should have Missy becoming the next Doctor.

@georgemoore7998 4 года назад

You touch on missy killing the master but the master also shoots missy and evidently kill her so I'm confused

@EditedAF987 4 года назад

The Master has survived much worse than being shot by a laser. If he can survive being trapped in the eye of harmony twice, trapped on an exploding planet and burnt to crisp then they almost definitely survived that

@dodo1opps 4 года назад

Actually, the Doctor married the Masters sister, who bore a son, Adam, who fatherd the Doctor's granddaughter, Susan, who is the mother of the Doctor's great grandson, Baldrick... The Master didn't like the fact that the Doctor left his sister to covort across tima and space.

@chrismarkbicknell 3 года назад

I still think Darwan's Master is an earlier incarnation. I think he is the regeneration after Ainsley's but before Roberts. Of course, I could completely wrong 😊

@marknorth8904 Год назад

Don't forget that Ainley's Doctor was captured and "killed" by the Daleks, before transforming into the "snake" and escaping from Dr 7...

@matthewchurchyard8552 4 года назад

Tbh I prefer the idea that Sacha Dawans Master comes before Missy, hence her narrative feels more complete and she reached some growth and redemption before her actual death.

@torazely 3 года назад

Sp, here's my theory. The doctor isn't the timeless child, the master is. The untempered schism is where they came from, and the heartbeat was placed in the masters head by the timelords to stop the master from even being able to figure out the truth. "But wait, the master said he learned that the doctor was the timeless child." "But wait, what about the renegade doctor?" "But what about all those unknown faces?" Well, easy. The doctor IS the timeless child. But not the doctor we know. The master USED to be the doctor.

@marknorth8904 3 года назад

No, they're step-brothers...

@andreistoica2470 4 года назад

Thats what i did although in an unseen tv story of my regeneration as Tremas again

@TreyMcDonaldAnimator 3 года назад

20:23 Okay so I barely remember the plot to this one. Who was that in the cage again? Like I remember the Doctor being super old, Martha reiniting the world to do that... Peter... Pan thing, and the Master taking control, but THAT thing I don't remember.

@fellinuxvi3541 2 года назад

That's the doctor made even older.

@nightowl8477 4 года назад

19:31 *Jessica Hyde intensifies*

@JustinAshbrook 4 года назад

What led you to believe Sacha Dawans master comes after Missy?

@Pastafari4 Год назад

If we had kid Doctor, I'd bet money they get consequences for their bullying and the Doctor took responsibility as the Master refused such and charmed their youthful rebellious collaboratora

@MeBeMat 4 года назад

Hi, we've had a lot of fun here tonight. But now I'd like to talk to you about a serious topic: people who think that Sacha Dhawan's Master comes before Missy chronologically. These people are afflicted with a rarely discussed condition called Hyperactive Headcanon. It starts as simple nitpicking, then experimenting with fan theories for fun. Eventually they're expecting the show to cater to what they've reasoned out must be the story when in fact the creators mean something entirely different. If you see one of these people, tell them it's OK. Hand them your nearest copy of Lungbarrow and whisper "none of this is real" until they fall asleep. Then tag them in the app with your location, and a photo if possible, so that one of our Friendly Fandom Enforcers can attend.

@Squicx 4 года назад

I would kid to see an origin (THAT ISNT RELATED TO THE TIMELESS) And it sees a young first doctor being a troublemaker in gallifrey. And somwhere in the short film I see him take a short cut through the workshop and he feels something connect with him. And he passes his eventual TARDIS he will take

@hx823 4 года назад

You need to include the events of "Legacy Of The Daleks" where we find out what really happened to the Master and how he ended up on Tersurus to be discovered by Chancellor Goth. Excellent story.

@EditedAF987 4 года назад

Eh, I prefer the explanation that the Two Masters offered

@BestOfTsars Год назад

My theory is that the current master in the Jodi era is a version of the master from a timeline where he was never redeemed and was plotting a revenge

@CineScarborough 4 года назад

Missy is and always will be the greatest Master. Michelle Gomez was born to play that role.

@skolldrachen9058 11 месяцев назад

somehow. the master survived.

@muttleyjones2 2 года назад

This guy is harder to kill than Jason Vorhees and Michael Myers put together.

@justmadesomethingup 2 года назад

Amazing Timeline! Thank you!

@andreistoica2470 4 года назад

Heres a thing even 6th Doctor traveled with River now Missy and River reminds me of Tremas Master along with 6th Doctor

@darrenmurray861 9 месяцев назад

Maybe it’s my generation, but John Simm is by far my favourite Master. He plays the arrogance and smarm of the Master perfectly.

@hehehehehehehehehehe111 3 года назад

Favorite character of all time 😈

@imperadorsupremofonsecaex4623 3 года назад

You only forgot the Lumiat, a good incarnation of the Master that probably is set between Missy and Sacha Dhawan Master

@RR4711 3 года назад

I think this video was made before the Lumiat episode was released.

@sircampbelltenson7297 3 года назад

After some reading and figuring out I'm pretty sure that Susan is the lord presidents daughter(Presumably not Rassilon) due to what was said of those events in Hell Bent (I know many people utterly despise that episode and its most certainly not my favourite but it's not as bad as any of series 12) But basically it's said that he kidnapped the presidents wife and daughter but only returned the presidents wife, this is supposedly early in his life so I'm not saying this is 100% definite but I like to think that it's true

@Pastafari4 Год назад

Fluidlike snake reminds me of Jason goes to heck (HELL)

@timothylyons5686 11 месяцев назад

Why then didn't Delgado, Pratt, Beevers, Ainley, Roberts, Mc Queen and Sir Derek mention the drums??

@J_Isak 3 года назад

So "the master" is basically "because plot"?

@danflahertymusic 4 года назад

I really hope this is an accurate account because it seems so and I’m fully behind the mental headspace that Sacha is 20th incarnation and we can just keep counting from there 🤣🤣

@xedalpha1 2 года назад

The Master was never the same since the band he and the doctor were in broke up. The master originally was on the drums. Seriously.

@ChrisCreats 3 года назад

A bit of obvious now trivia the theme tune is a time lords heart beat lol

@meecrowavey 4 года назад

Hey missy you so fine You so fine you blow my mind hey missy Hey missy

@NotSoRadical_ 4 года назад

I count the Masters after Missy as non-canon lmao

@NotSoRadical_ 4 года назад

ayyyitsdanny honestly same.

@andrewfuller3319 4 года назад

But it is cannon.. 😂

@CalzaRage 4 года назад

@ayyyitsdanny same

@robo3007 4 года назад

The "O" Master was much more true to character than Missy though

@RR4711 3 года назад

The Lumiat came after Missy and she was still good. Missy killed her hoping she would regenerate into an evil version.

@seanembery9391 Год назад

Favourite is still Missy. She really needs to come back into the series.

@muttleyjones2 2 года назад

When they say that the two boys were inseparable, does that mean like last summer when my boy dog became "inseparable" with the girl dog from across the street? I only ask because we found that a bucket of cold water did the trick and separated them pretty damn quickly!

@Killrfc 2 года назад

U should do one on all know timelords

@christopherdunbar394 4 года назад

this a great story of the master

@chickenphat730 4 года назад

Story of the Daleks?

@chrizmartin9890 4 года назад

They need to make a time war movie or tv show with Paul a master before jacobis but also his one and should fix up all lore and cover flash backs to how the war started giving some big finish moments some light on the screen Also it should cover the ending but the doctor eventually just a figure due to John hurts death so his presence gives more of a feeling

@chrizmartin9890 4 года назад

Also flash backs to how the dalek upgraded and other things giving us some good Paul McCan moments I use to love this shit wen I was younger just good checking in on it time and time again

@danielsausaman9767 4 года назад

it's more likely that Os Master is after The Saxon master ,but before the Missy master , or The Saxon Master regination into the Os Master then regination into a yet to be seen Master ,then at some futher down the road finally become The Missy Master , what do you think??

@__tremas__8582 4 года назад

Daniel Sausaman no it makes more sense that dhawan!master is after missy and simm

@roberthicks1612 3 года назад

I think everyone is ignoring the obvious. Missy was killed in a way that should have prevented her from reincarnating, BUT she did it anyway. Imagine you are the master, and you die like this and then reincarnate anyway. Wouldn't you want to know why? So he goes to the matrix and discovered that HE was the timeless child and everyone of the time lords had a piece of him in them. That would seriously piss him off, and then he would think of his old friend that went to school with him but did nothing to protect him from the abuse he had experience under Tecteun influence. So the master would want to punish her more than others.

@alisonsmith4436 Год назад

Thank you ☺️

@TomWright025 4 месяца назад

Would have been nice if they were brothers

@Agent.RoboGamo Год назад

Hmm interesting the cyberlords where best thing of the era please bring them back

@LondontransporduckL99 8 месяцев назад

The guy with no hair in not the master he is a different Timelord

@Prince__Teclis 7 месяцев назад

Uh, no. He is the Master.

@kaynhuros2050 2 года назад

Can someone tell me the music that happens at 4:31

@grahamparr4710 4 года назад

What? No! How the? No way! Eh? WTF! Yes! No! What? Nooo! He never! Why? He did what? Why? Noo! She Did? No way! That's just not right! When? Nooo! Oh well.

@andreistoica2470 4 года назад

And Tremas one despite the 13th Master was similar with Ras al Ghul

@theimpossiblesomething6773 4 года назад

This was fascinating. So much I didn’t know. Thank you!!

@jagdeepsingh3280 4 года назад

After watching im so mad they didn't make the master the timeless child. Thats would have been perfect. He destroyed the timelords as revenge for operating on him

@bretlanier2304 4 года назад

Well in fairness, that could still be a possibility and just be Master fucking with the Doctor, making her think shes more important than she really is

@connorwood9211 4 года назад

I think it would had been better if neither were. The Master would still be pissed everything he knew was a lie and the Doctor would be conflicted on her Regenerations since it was stolen from a child

@willardsteele4857 4 года назад

Just an awful storyline.

@Cyber_Smoke 4 года назад

Because chibnall can't write clearly people like us could do a better job because that isn't a terrible idea and works better than that crap.

@Lior353 4 года назад

- Smoke - his stories are more like a above average fanfiction

@anthonyellis987 4 года назад

A universe without the Master is barely worth thinking about.

@daisybtoes 4 года назад

I may be alone, but I think the Master is a pain-in-the-butt

@thepopcultureenthusiast4146 4 года назад

For the Doctor and other characters in the show but the Master is one of my favourite villains in the show.

@andreistoica2470 3 года назад

That was Ainleys Master saying that

@mhoppy6639 Год назад

@@andreistoica2470 yes. Didn’t he say that memorably in the five doctors which is one of my favourite stories. Before he tried to out-Rassilon Rassilon! I’ve seen a lot of Delgado’s Master recently and his portrayal was magnificent. After Delgado died in that accident, such was the strength of his and Pertwee’s friendship that Pertwee came very close to calling it a day.

@jaziybabe 4 года назад

I still fully believe the theory that the newest Master is actually the incarnation before Missy. It makes sense that she did indeed die for good (but honestly who knows with the Master). After all the work Missy does I believed that she had changed and the actions and personality of the current Master doesn't make sense to me that they would have gone back there (then again he is completely crazy, so who knows). But for me, the actions of the Master in season 12 makes much more sense to me happening before Missy.

@chefychefy8749 4 года назад

i never belived that because that means missy new about the timeless child but yeah it is the master so

@BenNightHound 4 года назад

I have to disagree and say this is after Missy due to the Wicked Witch refrence and the refrence to being good before.

@tardisglitch547 4 года назад

I mean it's entirely possible. We might find out after the final lockdown watches where Sacha comes in

@jaziybabe 4 года назад

Ben Ben when does he reference being good?

@nathant7555 4 года назад

To me the canon is dead. The timeless child backstory has ruined the show's canon, and disgraced William Hartnell as the first Doctor, so I wouldn't worry, because they wouldn't just keep the Master good, because that would be a change and be good writing