A side-by-side of the re-made sections of 1966's 'The Tenth Planet' in 2017's 'Twice Upon a Time. Some sections are animated as Episode 4 of 'The Tenth Planet' was wiped by the BBC in the early 70s, apart from the regeneration.
I did a quick google search and found that Eastenders has around 6800 episodes. Compare this to Doctor Who and you'll understand what the coment above meant.
@@Jordan_yiu Wondering if Chibnail stopped for one moment to considering that he is not the fandom and that even new who fans since got notion of the plot whole thanks to some RTD and Moffat stories due they had respected the ALREADY STABLISHED LORE of the classic series
@@plantainsame2049 As possible incarnations, that was the MAIN explanation. Books and everything else is a devious thing if they stablished that. Not to mention that IF those were faces.... moffat or davis would have referenced them.
@@tijera1234 No, in that episode they were Clearly explicit of what they were meant to be And one russell t davis and stephen moffa are both two nerds Who got old enough to be able to revive their favorite Show And two doctor who has no cannon The writers just simply do not give a fuck
'...709 Episodes ago' I LOVE that so much! Despite how they restarted the series numbering when they brought Doctor Who back in 2005, this caption makes it feel more like Classic and New Who are all one ongoing show that went off air for 16 years (apart from making a one off return in 1996 with the TV movie). Same goes for "The Day of the Doctor" marking the 50th anniversary and opening with the very first title sequence.
Thay restarted the numbering back in 64 for episodes Seson 1 ep 1 seson 2 ep 2 New who restarted the sesons numbering And I believe they should do away with that Like rename series one of new who the bad wolf ark And rename series one of classical the beginning That way, new fans don't feel so worried about starting a show on season twenty two Gives the impression that it's like power rangers which it is You can start either show with the start of any particular iteration and not missing anything other than a few references
@@johndoe35859 Do you wanna watch season one episode one season, one episode, one or the upcoming season one episode one Or do you wanna watch the first part of the beginning The first part of the bad wolf Or the upcoming the first part of the specials
There is also a scene where I noticed Bradley taking his time to form his lines, as if he's trying to remember what he is supposed to say, which would've been accurate for Hartnell at the time of Tenth Planet.
@@Yetaxa That's to blame on Rachael Talalay, she said that the actors could interpret the scenes their way and I was like: "No, only do it with the new scenes." That is my only flaw with the story.
So, if you watch the Tenth Planet, right at the end you'll notice you'll see the Doctor snap to attention, hear the door sound, see him collapse, and then hear Ben & Polly... which means the Doctor's final conscious act was to make sure his companions were on board before giving over to regeneration
It's really bad quality though, so I made the decision (which I would have done differently now) to use the animated version, which is still the same audio, framing and movements
blofeld39 they change the framing quite a bit for the animations just so they can make it easier for themselves to not have to animate in extra background movement or character leg/arm movement that was in the original shot
Yeah,but it’s easier to animate a whole episode than animate part of it and stick in minuscule amounts of footage here and there,the same reason why they didn’t use any footage for the Power of the Daleks animation despite around three and a half minutes of footage still existing,it’s just easier to include surviving footage as a bonus features than a unsubtractable add on
He was brilliant in An Adventure in Time and Space, but I was really disappointed in his version of the first Doctor. But only was the script completely off character but Bradley's performance had none of "The Hartnell Twinkle".
@@liamkrumnow8665 I think Moffatt made the assumption that everything in the sixties was sexist. The First Doctor always treated Barbara as an equal after their first couple of adventures. Everyone else, male or female, was his inferior, although he cared very much about them.
Let's just have more remasters like they've already been working on, and maybe some colourisations. The 1st Doctor hasn't ever been played with as much energy and charisma as William Hartnell gave to the part - he tends to get portrayed as older and slower than he really was (by both David Bradley and Richard Hurndall), and certainly Moffat didn't understand the character well enough to write for him.
It still pisses me off that the BBC just threw away most of if not all the footage from episodes in the '60s I know reruns weren't a big thing yet but still they should have saved every single episode put on TV after all look at how much of a following it originally got.
@@baggieboydan82 not the junked episodes. they don't exist in the BBC archives. As in there are literally no copies of them known to exist. I also think its unfair @logan 900, to criticise the BBC for not having the knowledge of hindsight that we now do. Today we know that home video, reruns and streaming took off, but you can't blame the BBC for not knowing that at the time
Seeing something like this, where they honor hard work that had been lost by recreating it and reminding viewers of the years of history that lies behind Doctor Who makes my heart warm. ❤️
@harryknapper1133 All TV companies dumped material. BBC actually stopped before others. Several ITV companies were still throwing stuff away well into the 80s. The BBC, being publicly funded were under pressure to keep costs low, but were also expected to produce a constant stream of new programmes. Letters to newspapers, Radio Times, and the BBC itself regularly included ones from viewers who had counted the number of repeats and demanding to know where licence money was going. I'm old enough to remember them being read out. Some would count the programmes, some would add up the hours of repeats. Both usually went on to work out percentages. Dr Who was just a children's show, nobody thought it would reach a tenth or fifteen anniversary, let alone a sixtieth. Dramas, documentaries, comedy shows, all were fair game to be wiped. And when people had spent a comparative fortune on colour television sets, there was certainly no appetite for black and white repeats. Even the broadcast of classic movies in black and white was criticised. Given the circumstances at the time, we're lucky to have as many episodes as we have.
Well......Not every Movevent, but he did a good job. Hartnell's choices were different and (in my opinion better) for "Have you no emotions...sir". (Little smile, which turns into a frown.)
@@AubreySciFi Have to agree. David Bradley acted the part well, but differently. His Doctor is much 'older' and less energetic and mercurial than William Hartnell's.
Sadly, there is no surviving footage of the second doctor's first adventure, Power of the Daleks. Only the audio survived, linked now to an honesty rather janky and at times lazy animation.
The animation was done very cheaply and on a strict tone schedule, not lazy at all. All the animators agree it wasn't their best, but that's all they could manage given what they had The new macra terror animation had had twice as long to make and four times the budget, so should be a huge improvement
There is like 30 seconds from right after he regenerated. The moments where Ben and Polly are like what the heck just happened, and right after he wakes up, takes his hood off, and says "It's over", while grinning like a maniac.
@@Phoenixifyable of course it does. Animation takes time, and the longer something takes to make the more you have to pay the animators. They were given a deadline, and the final product is what they could get done in that time.
Am I the only one wondering why they haven't recreated the lost scenes with these with these new actors? The just need to add some black and white filters over them and have the new actors lip-sink with the old audio if they want to go all the way.
For this cameo, it worked well. Though I was surprised to read that Rachel Talalay told them to play the scene in their own way. I was like: "No, play it exactly like they did it back then. How else will you make it be canonical?" But I loved the end result nonetheless and it's so minor you don't get bothered by it, I feel.
If only you could sad react on RU-vid. I still haven't got to grips with it and it's been months. I'm just begging the next showrunner retcons it back to how it was.
@@PoissonVisageStudios I know exactly how you feel. I hope it's forgotten about and never bought up, like how The Doctor being half-human or even that Susan was his granddaughter. At this point, I'm establishing my own personal head cannon: either the series stopped with the 8th Doctor or it ended with 12 choosing not to regenerate. Either way, I'm prepared to sacrifice huge chunks of Who so as not to even come close to that particular "reveal".
@@jasonknight8581 Susan's definitely his granddaughter: that's fundamentally a part of Doctor Who, although it is a bit strange how she hasn't been in the show since The Five Doctors. They've already retconned him being half-human though, so fingers crossed for The Timeless Child getting ditched too. Because this current era is so dreadful, I kind of just think of Peter Capaldi as still regenerating, because The Doctor hasn't appeared on our screens since then. Not even cos Jodie Whitaker's a woman, just because she doesn't have any personality and was happy to let Barristan Selmy die on Gallifrey to save the others, whereas every other Doctor would have saved everyone they possibly can, even if it meant they have to regenerate. I mean, she literally just found out she has infinite lives. If she isn't going to act like The Doctor, I can't think of her as The Doctor.
@@PoissonVisageStudios I had high hopes after The Woman Who Fell To Earth that they might be able to pull it off, but it's been a down hill slide ever since. I gave up after Spiders and only poked my head in to see Captain Jack and what the fuss was about Ruth. Jodie was horribly miscast as The Doctor, and that's a problem. Looking at Tom, Tennant, and Capaldi, they had some real stinkers, but they had a charisma to keep one watching. Jodie doesn't have that. She's behaving like a person doing a bad cosplay of The Doctor.
@@PoissonVisageStudios I think there may be hope; I saw a theory video from someone who watched Chibnal's other works (even outside of Doctor Who), and evidently Chibnall is the kind to intentionally lie to the audience. If you haven't seen it, this is the video I'm talking about: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-y5iM0xA2tII.html
There is an error in this comparison video at 1:38. The scene in The Tenth Planet where Polly and Ben are looking over the doctor takes place after the scene in Twice Upon a Time where the doctor is lying on the floor and the Tardis lands just before the regeneration. The scene where Polly and Ben look over the doctor lying on the floor is not rewritten by the doctor lying on the floor on his own, it is just a cutscene which takes place just before the doctor regenerates which they decided to cut to improve the moment.
I'm well aware of that, but I figured since he's lying in the same position, it would be interesting for the side-by-side to see how the two line up, whereas if I just played one then the other, it would lose that.
Missed the fine details, the controls aren’t moving by themselves and Ben and Polly aren’t in the TARDIS, and the Tardis would of taken off not arrived
Nexionic I think the only difference is there was more money put into remastering the footage for Twice Upon a Time, so the clip is clearer, so some of the more janky elements of Tenth Planet's production and budget become visible
Deathlygunn - You mean grading, not remastering. Nexionic - I think the main difference was it was slightly faster and made the misalignment look more obvious between Hartnell and Troughton.
You're right about the misalignment. This is made even more preposterous due to the fact the Tenth Planet footage is cropped considerably in Twice Upon a Time, so they could have fixed it quite easily.
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Why did you use the reconstructed footage from The Tenth Planet? All the original footage survived from those scenes as 8mm telerecordings from the original transmission. The picture's terrible but it still would've looked more authentic
I contemplated showing it as well as the animated version as a 3 way comparison, but decided that since the animated version copies the original one exactly and the original one is such dreadful quality, the animated version would look better in the video, but I've changed my mind since and wished I used the terrible quality original footage.
How are there two versions of William Hartnells speech on emotions? The part on the right before the transformation into colour is different ever so slightly.
Because it would be almost impossible to line everything up perfectly for a true transition, so they just lined William Hartnell's face up over David Bradley's, changed the aspect ratio, made it black and white and added filters. It never was actually the original shot.
They really should redo some of those older black and white episodes with Walder Frey. He did a good job and that way we can watch the full stories that have missing episodes instead of not being able to watch and enjoy them because there are missing episodes.
They couldn't afford to keep everything in their archive. I think they wiped part 4 of TTP by mistake since Blue Peter were borrowing the episode to show the regeneration scene (this is the reason it still exists) and that must have somehow caused a mistake in the junking process.
@@Wizardaron They should be ashamed for their neglect but I dont think they are. I think they care as much now as they always have about doctor who does it make money then we want can we sell it nope throw in the rubbish. They had calls for years of people finding recordings and tele snaps but they didn't want them probably all destroyed sadly.
Oh I thought they actually did a transition from Hartnell's scene to the new Bradley one, but it looks like they used a deepfake-style effect. Interesting...
Yeah, it would be too difficult to transition the background and clothing too, cos it would have to line up perfectly. The effect was done by John Smith on RU-vid and he basically cut out Hartnell's face and placed it over Bradley's, then erased and merged Hartnell's features in frame by frame, while he moves his head, to hide it a bit, until only Bradley was left.
The only part that I don't think works that well is the face that William Hartnell has about 3 teeth in his head, so he suddenly grows a full set in a matter of seconds.
@@TheMultiGamerOfficial Deepfake technology wasn't developed until about 2018/19, and even then it wasn't photoreal until about a year ago. This episode came out a little bit too early.
Seriously, just have David Bradley film all the missing first Doctor episodes, even film them in black and white to make them more authentic. If audio, stills and even animations exist of the missions episodes, I don’t see why it couldn’t be done?
i feel like im the only one in shock they got Hartnell’s TEETH right?! it’s such an easy thing to miss but bradley’s teeth look just like how Hartnell’s did way back then! the attention to detail is baffling
I wish they'd shown more of the regeneration scene at the end. Have the new Ben and Polly filmed banging on the TARDIS door, coming in and finding him.
Who would love to see an animated remake of completely lost First Doctor episodes, with Dave Bradley voicing and dynamic action animation? Maybe keep it black and white for the hardcore Whovians ;)
such a shitty thing to do to leave out the peeps who were there during his regen,they basicly reconed it so he was alone in that moment instead of being cared for
Doctor who Productions they didn't try to get rid of them. If you watch the Tenth Planet, you see that the Doctor ran off, leaving them behind and as the door opened he regenerated.
To be fair, I imagine that shot of the First Doctor on the floor in Twice Upon a Time happening just before Ben and Polly run in. I just put them side-by-side, because they were meant to look similar, so I was showing a comparison.
Michael McGrath Real mature just calling other fans dumbass. Im a first Doctor fan, and although it could have been more accurate in some places and less exaggerated in others, I absolutely loved this episode. Don’t be such a dick.
If they could bring Tenant's 10th Doctor back, I'd love for David Bradley's 1st Doctor to come back for a couple of special episodes as The Doctor too.
Can you Spot the Continuity Error? In Doctor Who the 10th Planet Ben and Polly was it they went to the Tardis they were Banging on the Door till they got in and they Rolled the Doctor Over to see what they could do for him and then he Regenerated, In Twice Upon a Time the 1st Doctor was in the Timestream heading back to the 10th Planet in the Time he Left he Collapsed and when he Got to the 10th Planet he Regenerated and he was Alone, Twice Upon a Time Changed Dr Who History his Personal Timeline was Changed.
He wasn't alone, Ben and Polly were just out of shot. You could say that Ben and Polly appeared straight after the bit where we see him laying down was shot.
Don’t really agree with the criticisms against Bradley and how they dealt with the first doctor’s character in this tbf, I think it was beautiful and aside from that one weird moment where the first doctor had outdated human beliefs from the 60s everything else was spot on
@@FlynnWho Yep, and sadly "The Tenth Planet" Episode 4 being one of them. Just glad the actual regeneration footage itself survived through Blue Peter.
-They don't count SHADA -They count Resurrection of the daleks as 2x45min and not as 4x25min (not really surprising but still) -They count the TV Movie
You know there is a part of me that kinda wishes they had remade the scenes from the tenth planet entirely, maybe reshot or reframed the regeneration to be more in line with the visuals we have now, but also the use of the old footage and the transition between the two makes this episode very unique and I am okay with that.
One thing I do hate is that they completely reshot the Emotions, love, pride, hate, fear scene. Sure it helps the fade act more natural, but it also takes away from Hartnell’s original amazing delivery of the line.
@@nathandompke4654 That's fair enough, but you have to realise they literally had no choice. Also, Hartnell looks like an egg at the end of the scene, they had to fix that.
Wouldn't it amazing to reshoot the whole story.No one can replace William Hartnell but the cold stone truth is Episode 4 is missing and the Serial is damaged.Animated stuff is ok but it would be better.
It would be quite interesting if they got a different cast. They did a similar thing with the 3 missing Dad's Army episodes and they were really good. I don't like David Bradley's First Doctor, though and the guy playing Ben was dreadful.
Part of me wishes they take advantage of the new actors and bring Ben and Polly back. It would be interesting to see the Doctor reunite with his old companions centuries after he left them when it's only been a few months or even weeks for them, especially since they were the first to experience the Doctor's regeneration
@@zyg9Surely the new Ben was worse, as he was visibly a lot taller than the original Ben, plus he gave it zero effort with the "wakey wakey" line in particular.
@@stephenmcconnell1000 Theyre both terrible, and the wrong height. I always noticed the new polly being way too short! And she just looks more wrong to me, i cant put my finger on why. Bad wig? The fact i'm madly in love with the original polly, so everyone is inferior to her?
@zyg9 yes, it's a very bad wig. I don't know why they didn't get an actress with blonde hair of her own. But the height difference between Michael Craze and Jared Garfield is extreme and laughable in that we're supposed to believe that they're playing the same character.
I just watched the 60th and I consider it a bit disappointing as a Special, the 50th wasn't the bets but it was outstanding, but after all this years I consider that this Christmas Special should be considered the REAL 60TH, I have nothing against RTD, Davud or Ncuti, I simply founded the episodes so weird and generic, while a simple Christmas special was able to celebrate the stpry of the show, or I even The Power of The Doctor that was a Centenary Special feels bigger that these 3 specials, anyway that just my opinion but I am very excited by the 15th Doctor and the adventures to come.
Makes me kinda of confused why they don't just put in the money and recreate the lost episodes in live action. You only need cheap sets and effects. The animations never worked for me.
Feels a bit weird to compare the live action recreation to the cartoon recreation, but that's fine. Still a great comparison video! Strange how every shot was perfectly recreated, except for the speech scene where it slowly becomes color.
Of course they remove the classic Radiophonic sfx with Murray Gold's crappy, cliche music and tarnish one of the most iconic moments by retconning in the yellow regeneration energy.
Herobrinedanny playz official Have you watched Planet of the Spiders, Robot, Logopolis, Castrovalva, Caves of Androzani, or Time and the Rani? Because I think you’ll find none of them use the same stupid yellow regeneration energy like they do in New Who. The yellow explosion effect was NEVER supposed to be regeneration energy originally. When they used it in Series 1, it was because that yellow energy was actually supposedly from inside the Tardis console. It’s the same energy which Rose absorbed becoming the Bad Wolf, and then transferred to the 9th Doctor when he kissed her. So that explosion wasn’t actually the regeneration but the expulsion of all that energy from his body, essentially killing him, but he was regenerating (the face changing) at the exact same time as the Tardis energy was incinerating his old body. It’s only starting in Series 3 that they reused the same regeneration position for every subsequent one in the show.
Stylleon You are referring to the prequel minisode for Day of the Doctor? That was created in the Moffat era, at which point they retconned every regeneration ever to actually look like the yellow energy which RTD introduced. It’s not like someone else thought it up. He’s just going back and using it to be consistent with the new, altered canon, as opposed to the original one.
Oh, I understand now. And I agree, they shouldn't have used any regeneration effects for the first Doctor, because he regenerated into the second Doctor by fading, not exploding into the next incarnation.
