What if the 12th Doctor actually regenerated into 13 when Bill shot him with real bullets in Lie of the Land? It would be interesting to see Bill looking at the Doctor in a completely new way, now that: 1. She’s discovered the Doctor can regenerate. 2. She’ll actually be attracted to the Doctor.
Some suggestions for future videos: What if the Eleventh Doctor kept his five-minute promise and traveled with little Amelia Pond throughout Series 5? What if Ryan's father, Aaron Sinclair, had died at the end of "Resolution" after being possessed by the Dalek?
@@forcedalek now this other suggestion is even darker but here it is: what if The Master had succeeded in hijacking The Doctor's existence? (I know it's a lot darker than my first suggestion)
Loving the direction that 11 takes in this and the inclusion of the deleted scene of the TARDIS growing from S4! You should totally do one of these where Amy and Rory don't get sent back in time and end up staying on for Series 7 Part 2 instead of Clara and are the one's who enter the Doctors timestream instead of Clara
@@forcedalek Yeah, but I think she would've skipped the 50th and Christmas special and been in the first Capaldi episode, or maybe would've been reworked as an ally from the town of Christmas in Matt's regeneration episode
@@jeanmichellelaurent The whole thing feels like a fan fiction. And as the fan fiction , it would be interesting but as part of the real show ehhhhhhhhh And I like fan fiction I have some of them on my current rewatch of classic
@@plantainsame2049 I legitimately think it was a mandate from either the BBC or Disney as a caveat for keeping the show on the air that he's trying to spin the best out of. That, or he's just lost sight of what people like about the franchise.
What if 11 Bi-Generated into 12 i can imagine the arguments 😅 or what if 8 did a split regeneration instead of changing into war he changed into 9 Or how about the Master Bi-Generate
Eight ends up having to deal with the ward doctor the scream of the shalka could doctor and the curse of fatal death doctor All at the same time Oh look you can make those cannor have them split off the war doctors regeneration
@@Harveyc_Harveyc_Missy who did not want to be good You forget that She Was complicit in part of the episode All she wanted to do was standing with the doctor It's like the ninth Doctor said demargaret. Sometimes you just try to do something nice to justify your evil to yourself
7:29 - Worth noting that modern Clara didn't have Oswin as a legal middle name the way that Victorian Clara did, unless you're using it as the nickname she mentioned. Also, 7:41, if by the Great Sun you mean Akhaten, that was a planet, not a star.
You know when the 11th doctor visits his grave with Clara, and the whatever people try to force him to say his name to open the Tardis or else they’ll kill his friends but River says it for him? What if River wasn’t there? Would he have let them die? How far would he let them go before he said his name? How important is keeping his name a secret to him?
bro is literally becoming one of the top dr who tubers by doing these what ifs ! (I know some were done before but yeh) (also not to say your channel and work wasn't good already before heh)
This is a brilliant idea! Maybe every Doctor went through something similar and 14 is so far the only one who hasn't turned into the Valeyard, so that's why 14 and 15 are the first time we've seen a bigeneration.
This started out really silly, but I got really invested in the alternate timeline of Series 5-9, I strangely like this what if despite despising Bigeneration. And the fact the timelines resync at the end and we still get the Series 5-9 we got, it's an idea I'm content with because Russell's meddling with the bigeneration stuff.
Hey! I think your thumbnails are really great and not clickbaity. They're exactly what they thumbnails should be - intriguing but not clickbait. Keep it up! Only just discovered your channels! And love all these theories and ideas!
What’s scary to think is this might’ve actually happened- we just don’t know it because at the end the bi regeneration never happens and the normal regeneration plays out the same… that’s terrifying
I like it cause Matt wanted to be a master if he comes back I know he was the vallyard in this one but still same concept but please do 9th doctor bi generated next
if 10 had been bigenerated, Matt Smith would have torn Tennant's clothes and they would have stood naked... two adult men naked and one little Amy Pond...
@@forcedalek The fact that the 14th doctor regenerated along with clothes is such nonsense... If Russell didn't want to show David in women's clothes, he could add a scene where the 13th doctor would change clothes (as the 11th doctor did)... But remembering how the current doctor got out of David along with his clothes... This suggests that the show is now really just a masterpiece! But the early show allowed Donna to look at the naked Tennant... Oh, there were times!
@@fanoverdell with the bi-generation with the 14th and 15th, the 14th was left with only a few of his original pieces of clothing, with the 15th having the rest of them, so I guess the show's back on track with russel in charge!
honestly I do love your storytelling and where you take the stories following the point of divergence (even if this one felt a bit too mean spirited to 11. even for me) but I think you're really restricting yourself by forcing these to a) only be one episode and b) tie back into canon once they're over (the delta wave what if didn't do that and I think that's my favorite so far).
I realize how similar this is to the story of my two time lords called the Helldaver and Tinkerer. The story mostly plays out the same, but there are several things I would change about this if i were adapt this story to fit the tinkerer. One of them is making it so that rather than the eleven incarnation emerging from ten, the Sixteenth incarnation of the Tinkerer would split from the Fifteenth. Sixteen would be a woman as well as a continuation of the original time lord, whilst Fifteenth is a new man who is entirely separate from the former. Also, the Fifteenth Tinkerer continued to go down a darker path, having already began his decline even before the bi-generation. He had already been sentenced to exile on earth for breaking the laws of non-interference and the laws of time itself due to his actions in the Last Great Time War. Their TARDIS would also land in a parking lot in Vancouver and take off without them. They would be stranded on earth temporarily, but then they would discover a TARDIS cloaked as an old dilapidated piano. As soon as they both stepped inside, the TARDIS took off. Fifteen frantically turns knobs, flips levers, and pushes buttons because the TARDIS was starting to act more erratically, after all it was the ship he used in the war and its not doing so hot anyway due to being outdated. The ship eventually lands in WW2 era America, where the Tinkerer was meant to be exiled. Immediately, the Sixteenth Tinkerer exits but then the TARDIS takes off with fifteen still inside. The Sixteenth tinkerer was left on earth, having a chunk of TARDIS and she would build and grow her own TARDIS from this piece over the course of her exile. After many years the Fifteenth Tinkerer returned. He soon encountered the Sixteenth Tinkerer, and after agreeing and going their separate ways, he stole the recently grown TARDIS and the Sixteenth Tinkerer watched as the other TARDIS took off without her. In the years since, the Fifteenth Tinkerer would darken into a mysterious, cunning manipulator and will therefore turn homicidal, callous, and ultimately becomes like the Time Lord Victorious-only a trillion times worse.
@@forcedalek Oh and to clarify, the Helldaver IS the bi-generated Fifteenth Tinkerer after years of hatred, loneliness, and anger plaguing him, he's essentially like the tinkerer's equivalent of the Valeyard so it makes sense.
I was also just giving a taste. I wrote an entire story on google docs but its unfinished docs.google.com/document/d/1fNlQdH5qj43Dh08R2EfP1cJgdmiJ9QI8yteTvyk3rpU/edit?usp=sharing (If you go to this screen that says "You need access", ignore it. its being worked on)
Slightly concerning that I spent ages writing scripts like this and you've already done it. Always great to see though, someone else clearly thinks it's a good idea. Congrats on the success
Not gonna lie, this was a great what if! I really wish this was canon as an animated or live action episode (this would've made a great 60th special episode). It gives Smith and Capaldi's eras so much more vibrance and meaning compared to what we got instead.
You're really good at this. I've always thought that 11 had the potential to be a darker incarnation and it's fun to see that explored. An idea: What if the 1st/12th Doctors refused to regenerate? It could end up being a Turn Left copy but I'm curious if you could come up with something different like with the Unbound Doctors stepping in.
This was quite interesting what if, although it might have been better if 10 had become the Valeyard and 11 had to stop him. Nevertheless, it was good fun to listen to. What if I was thinking about is WHAT IF the Master killed his original body after the forced regeneration of the 13th Doctor. Would Yaz still be able to save the Doctor and would the Doctor accept her fate and pass over the edge of Regeneration, never to return.
What if “The Dark Dimension” 30th Anniversary Special was focused on Colin Baker instead of Tom Baker? How would it act as a proper regeneration for the Sixth Doctor ?
Idk like Rory might of married Amy and they stop travelling with the doctor and they wouldn’t the doctor should have a different companion or no companion and still go and meet river at stone henge but there’s no Rory to to get the doctor out and eventually when the Pandora gets moved It would probably get given to Torchwood or someone else and if river was born earlier she would be so much different
What if the 9th Doctor had to Bi-generate in Father’s Day to save Everyone What if Missy stood with the Doctor What if the second Doctor was exiled to Mars and didn’t have to Regenerate
I wonder what would have happened if the Daleks and Cybermen joined forces. Doesn't that mean we would have gotten cyberdaleks or cyleks (si-lek) and later get cylekmasters.
NOOOOOOOOO the daleks can't be finished, that's just not possible What's the show going to do without them? Although the doctor who experience featured other "children of davros" so maybe the three ironsides just fell into despair and effed up bad, the paradigm notwithstanding
@@forcedalek it feels like Chibnall put the concept of timless child and completely forgot to develop it. secondly,15th doctor talks to 14th like his past incarnation like: you had some rest so now i feel healed. Bi-generation is the reason why doctor let his trauma go
I'm going to write down my ideas again so that other people can see them and tell me what they think. I also just thought of another one. my top favorite one is: What if Jenny didn't get shot and joins the Tardis crew, (like the colonel guy got knocked out or pushed before he could fire the gun) then my others are: What if the Doctor regenerated in Stolen Earth/Journeys end? What if Rose could control the bad wolf entity what if the Master regenerated at the end of the last of the time lords what if Amy died in the battle of demons run what if the doctor saved everyone from dying during the waters of mars what if the Doctor accepted Christina as a companion Another new one: What if Jacky Tiler got upgraded in Doomsday
@@forcedalek we had an entire story then the timelines resync and basically reset which erases all the events. But you are right maybe this did happen and they can’t remember.
