Dodging Kooks at Byron Bay , this surfer has dodging kooks down to a fine art as he manoeuvres through the lineup and heads down the point ... Byron Bay The Pass New South Wales Surfing Australia 2023
Beginners do have a right to learn, but don’t set up camp in the middle of a busy road with heavy traffic. They could go down the beach and take off on crumbly closeouts and it would be no different than them taking off and going straight at the Pass.
If they take the time to learn etiquette first and stay the fuck out of everyone’s way, don’t drop in on people go straight then yeet their board into someone’s face sure fine, they can earn their place eventually, if they break the cardinal sins or paddle into the pit they can fuck off forever though. Period. Full stop. Kids are fine, kids should learn.
@@SwordAndFern-mw3ke Couldn't agree more with this comment. These "tourist breaks" always turn into a shit show under 3 feet. Locals usually only go out 6 foot plus. Having said that if you paddle into the pit at any city break around the country you're going to have a bad day.
The sand is definitely in this year. It’s stuffed though. People refusing to paddle to the spot wait their turn and commit. The just sit right down the lineup and make every wave an obstacle course.
I've been there was fine and just like that , the locals have the take off dialed , but still empty shoulders if have patience, I surfed away from main crowds
You can still do that in many surf spots in Australia, is just that Byron and Coolangatta are the most popular at the moment and those two spots have AMAZING waves, but where I live is not warm but I can still surf really good waves just my husband and me☺
@@jackdrury18 Hahahaha! This place will never be a surf heaven bc the waves are beach breaks and very inconsistent but they are still great fun when you ride them....... Somewhere in East Gippsland 🤭🤭
The good Old days at the bay have definitely gone. I don't go near the place anymore. Unfortunately due to the internet and guide books so many great breaks are being ruined by the crowds. The bay back In the seventies, eighties and nineties was a totally different laid back place. Now it's full of the pretentious brigade that move to beautiful places, bring Thier city b.s along and turn it into the place they came from. I've seen it happen in many a beautiful little Hamlet during my life.
Visited once. Noosa to somewhere south of Lennox is kinda crowded and so many good surfers. I figured you would have to hunt out good beachies to avoid going mad. Good luck
I grew up surfing and actually got pretty good when I was young. Then moved to the Midwest for 25 years. I still love surfing more than anything even though I can't even pop up anymore. When I get the chance to take a vacation and paddle out, I tell the guys around me that I'm a kook and I won't get in anyone's way or take any wave they want... Actually works out well that way because they typically cheer for me and give me a wave every once in a while after just sitting out there and letting everyone take whatever they want... Kinda funny how I went from a kook, to a local, then back to a kook... At least I know the etiquette out there. I think that's the biggest obstacle
I’m in the same boat. Live in Montana now. Except I just take any wave that comes because where I surf, there is zero etiquette anymore (WA and OR coast). Everyone goes for every wave, nobody cares anymore whose turn it is. Free for all.
WTF, no one paddles wide these days. There must be a million bucks worth of board shorts and other accessories in the water. This is the hell like scenario the Hippies warned about, a plague of Hipsters.
....Brilliant ride considering the roadblocks, geez, Louise ! PHK these incompetent 'ner do wells that don't consider anyone but themselves!!!!! You did wonderfully at remaining NEUTRAL!!!!!....
I rode a borrowed Mal at a little river outlet bank adjacent to Suffolk Caravan Park decades ago. Mal's were not cool back then so I had it to enjoy the 2-3' waves to myself.
I would never go out there with that many sitting inside. You'd have to be a pretty good shredder to avoid hitting the beginners that are oblivious to what is going on around them and to extending courtesy to the more experienced.
There are 12K beaches in Australia. I know they are not all great surfing beaches. But maybe find one that doesn't attract beginners and tourists. Is that too simplistic?
@@kamiruDesigns Byron Bay is probably 5 hours north of your home break, it is overrated and overun by tourists. There are heaps of quieter surf beaches near Byron Bay (Lennox Head) and all up and down the east coast. If you were Australian you would know that. Mate. 😄
@@kamiruDesigns sorry I'm confused. There are 'hundreds' of surf breaks within 5 hours of this break. Don't get me wrong. I love watching the sheep graze at Byron Bay.
I don't know why everyone is whineing. It was exactly like that when I lived there in the 80's. Peeling long rights, lovely sandy beach, warm water and sunshine. What do you expect. Give the beginners a break. Everyone was a "kook" at 1 stage or another.
BS. I surfed it hundreds of times from 85 to 90 and there was never anything even close to that. So many afternoons with only 2 or 3 guys sitting at the top. There's well over 100 people in the water here. You are clearly trippin mate.
2 or 3 guys at the top was in about '65 or maybe full moon surfing. I'll say it again. Beginner's can go where ever they like and I could walk on water in the 80's there were so many people out there. I heard Nat Young say in the 80's when he got out of the water at the pass say. "Fucken hell that's crowded".
@@olddog_newtricks_ Can you explain what paddle inside not for the shoulder means? kook noob here and I hate that I'm often in the way. To be fair, my local spot generally doesn't break like this. its a lot of waves in a lot of different directions. But I surfed another spot a bit further away and there was more of a consistent break. I'm just taking a guess here, but does it mean you paddle to where the break starts? seems like if you did that, whomever catches the wave would already be off to the side and I wouldn't be in the way.
Similar to our area Crescent Head to Pt Plomer. People who are just learning to stand up paddling out at Points via encouragement from others (mainly tourist facilitator's) is now the norm. Some of these learner's have 3 or 4 boards and discuss fins, rails, rocker, thickness etc ... does my head in!
I’m in Massachusetts and it’s like this on a 30 degree day in December now lol. Definitely a global phenomenon. It was 2 foot and closing out last weekend, couldn’t even get into the parking lot and there was snow on the ground. 5-10 years ago you would be the only person out there and people would think you were from outer space for surfing in that cold
I have not surfed with a double digit crowd in months, its not the same world over. (and not i'm not going to shittier spots on bad condictions,) @@ajj4483
Why I hate most surfers and now surfkite, prone surf and wing foil for peace and quiet while still have fun ripping at non crowded spots. The camaraderie is shit in the surfing world unless your either hyper level, famous or in a tight bikini. Everyone is a kook to everyone. 99% of comments here illustrates that.
So my daughter asked me if corned beef had any corn in it today. I told her that back in the 19th century - a very kooky time in the world, that they had kooky names and ideas for a lot of things and corned beef is probably a left over of one of those things - from the age of kooks, which was just a few of decades before modern surfing started taking form... One interesting thing about that time period, when modern surfing began, is that surfers began to do things and approach interesting situations in a non kooky way, which was quite innovative... The thing was though, because surfers spent so much time surfing, that the idea of not being a kook only reached a limited number of people and so much of the presurfing kookyness remained part of society as a whole. Now, because it went the way it did, we have kooks today
I hate it when you've been waiting out the back and get the wave of the day and then you have to spend the whole ride dodging the imbeciles who were all sitting way to far on the inside...
I remember learning how to not run over people when I was a kook. Literally sit on the board and stopped cause idk how to turn 😂. But I learned how not to be in people’s way the first thing. I think it’s important
This whole comment section sounds like a bunch of high schoolers. Calling your fellow humans kooks because they did X, Y or Z. I got into surfing years ago and used to practice all the etiquette. But what I’ve learned is the locals and hardcores don’t practice the etiquette so I don’t either now. I take every wave I want, surf right in the locals spot, and don’t care how much of a hissy fit you put up. What are y’all gonna do? 🤣. Fight me? Slash my tires? Let’s go. I’ll be taking your wave next. Try not to cry 😢
And Mal riders still wonder why there hated. Good Mal riders need to teach there learning kooky brotherin da rulez. How arrogant to just paddle for a wave and try shoulder hop while someones already tearing the bag out of it.
I dont have enough skill to not have severed at least 5 achilles tendons. Also what is wrong with people? Its not like theyre caught inside, theyre just purposely sitting in the way of the wave..
Surfing is the only sport I have come across where violence breaks out for the tiniest reasons. I was body boarding right at the very end of a quiet beach on NSW south coast and right at the very end of the surf zone. Probably past the drop out zone. The surf was maybe 3ft and not many guys out. A local surfed right over to me, fired his long board at me, cutting my cheek pretty bad. I gave him a mouthful. I went to the car park straight after that. While I was trying to stop my cheek from bleeding 3 guys(including cheek cutter) approached me and started to assault me. Full disclosure I have boxed for 10 years and trained longer. I had to put them all on their asses before the situation calmed down. Several onlookers suggested I press charges, but the very emotional state of the guys now showed that enough had been done IMO. Boxers would never attack someone like that and we literally fight for sport. Sort this schoolboy crap out idiots. Someone is gonna get hurt.
Hard to move out the way of a fast moving, rapidly changing directions unpredictable short boarder, while sitting in the water being moved by a wave, you try it
