20 min. and click on like and coaching web site. I would like to see you compare your Mathews to Prime CT9, to see if we can get you to switch ;) In my opinion those two are basically same design (long riser, short limbs) with better price and cam on Prime
Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine ru-vid.comUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.
"not recommend for a hunter"............. not sure what your recommendation criteria is for hunting, something where longbows and recurves are still used. This bow is tiny, compact, light 'enough, comfortable fall-off for long holds, and if you shorten your draw length one notch you can pull firmly into the wall and take away 99% of the "sponginess", and it shoots over 315fps with my setup - I've taken a dozen deer, two elk and dozens of boar in the time I have had it - and I have the original Edge. For tree hunting, ground blinds, and brush blinds, its great, small, and on-the-cheap setup.
I've had the Infinite Edge Pro since 2015 and have killed tons of deer with it, all on public land. Just had my first ever string replacement last month, and it is back to being like a brand new bow and my back wall is still solid as a rock. I use it with the Apex Gear AG2301GB 1 dot Covert Pro power dot sight and it's a deadly combo.
Same. Got one for Christmas when I was about 11 and now am fifteen. Never did anything to it except adjust sights, poundage, and draw length. Never even put a stabilizer on it.
15:12, Pro tip I learned in the military. Use index marks on EVERYTHING. Take a sharpie or map marker (they should come off with hand sanitizer but test first) that way if anything comes moves accidentally or intentionally you have a reference to get it back quickly. I recommend you use map markers with a super fine tip, that way you get the most accurate index mark. For the sake of clarity, an index mark for those who dont know is just a drawn line on a non moving part of the weapon system and a corresponding line that is on a moving part of it. You just make both lines "line up" and you know they are set back to the original location. examples include sights, rests, stabilizers and grips
I have bows ranging from 150$ to 600$. The thing i noticed is that it doesnt matter if you shoot a cheap or expensive bow but I do recommend quality accessories. Because i notice the cheaper accessories tend to get lose while shooting while the more expensive ones dont. My advise is to invest in accessories and safe money on the bow itself. You can always upgrade the bow and use the same accessories.
to someone that isn't familiar to the sport, this video speaks volumes to the importance of form and technique while shedding light on how little the sport relies on equipment. Equipment can make things more consistent and even convenient, but its repetition and consistency that matter in the world of archery. great video, you have my subscribe and thumbs up :)
Thank you so much Jon! You're completely right. Companies prefer people to believe that the brand name is everything, but in reality if you put in enough effort, you will see the results.
You can turn a $100 bow into a compatition bow. Don't believe everything people say. It's the shooter that makes the Archer. A better now doesn't make it any funner either.
I much prefer traditional style bows and if you get fibreglass ones they can be like $75 and like $20 shipping. If you want to see some look for a channel called armin hirmer and a site called alibow
Get a recurve, more skill involved and much cheaper, and the take downs are awesome and convenient. Plus if you're good with a recurve, you're great with a compound....
Cheap LOL I shoot a single cam bear Wild I get one inch groupings at 20 yards so I can't complain but you want to shoot a cheap bow step into that one but a great video very informative you're quite the shot keep up the good work
Wow, way to be racist AF. So many cultures used bow and arrow, not just the indigenous American which you ignorantly called “indians” like the killer columbus did.
@@Fausto_4841 Wow, I didn't know snowflakes watch these types of shows. Wake up and climb out of the rock. The phrase wasn't invented by me. Its a phrase said throughout the generations. lol. Snowflakes melts away.
Many years ago I was told I would never shoot worth a damn because I had a Bear Whitetail 2. (from a competition shooter) Months later and a lot of practice I was holding my own against the best shooters in the club and won a few 3d shoots. Then I started to upgrade my equipment as money would allow. Its a great sport and can put food on the table to boot.
I had 2 white tail 2s. One for competition. One for hunting. Matched up shot for shot eith a buddy who had a diamond. Then again with his mathews. I miss those bows.
Good, honest video. Assuming that the draw length was already by chance good for the buyer, that bow is right out the box plenty accurate and dependable enough to go hunting and kill a deer. All's it would require is a couple of hours of tweaking and practice for the individual and that's it. Lotta very, very expensive bows on the market but to be honest they're no better for the average deer hunting situation than that bow.
Great video. It's cool to see a pro style archer using some inexpensive bows and being able to talk about them. This was a down to earth humble review that I really enjoyed watching. Great content.
The Diamond Infinite Edge Pro is able to be adjusted (draw weight and draw length) without a bow press. Here is a link on how to adjust the draw length without a bow press. Not sure why you had to use all the fancy tools to do this, rather then showing the viewers how simple it is to adjust? The video is - How to adjust draw length on a Diamond Infinite Edge Pro black ops - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OqouIO8nYBw.html. I just googled the bow name and how to adjust the draw length. Now not everyone has a bow press or all the other fancy tools to set their bows up. That is why allot of the bow companies have gone to making their bows adjustable without the need for bow presses or other tools (just need an allen wrench or two). All one needs to do is read the information when they open their bow up and it will tell you if you can do it yourself or you need to go to the archery shop for help. Just an observation.
Hey man! Sometimes the module screws can hide behind the limbs like it did in the video. It forced me to pressed the bow so I can rotate the cams to reach the screws. If you don't have a press, I recommend having someone partially draw the bow as it's laying on a table, and then you can remove the screws. I hope that helps!
@@SamuelWhiteArchery speaking of which, do you know how i could source a replacement cam screw for an older diamond? had one fall out on a whitetail hunt.
I worked in a bow shop for 3 years. I set up and sold hundreds of this exact bow. Part of our sales pitch was that this bow would do well for nearly anyone. I would trust this bow from anything from squirrels to moose.
Samuel thanks for this video. I'm thinking of starting with compound bow archery and am wondering if I could start with a budget around 400 dollar. I do not have any ambitions and it's just for shooting 3d and target at a range or garden. (I've got a 40 year old recurve bow which I shoot occasionally). I hope you are able to evaluate bows like the PSE, Stinger/Drive and or Bear Cruzer. Starting bows with serieus specs from leading brands. By the way absolutely no issue watching your whole video. Will certainly watch your next one.
Thank you so much! I'll see what I can do! A ton of people have asked for me to do the PSE Stinger Extreme so that might be what's next. You definitely can start with a $400 budget, as long as you try it out before hand. I hope this helps!
I shoot the bear authority.. It's a tack driver at 60lbs and looks pretty sweet.. It was bear's lower end compounds that came iin ready to hunt packages.. It has a better look to it than the bear cruzer, even though the cruzer is the newer replacement for it..
Awesome video, I love bow tech bows, personally they are my favorite. The only thing that gets me is the idea that a $300.00 bow is considered as a budget bow. I have made osage orange, ash, oak, hazel, hickory, and sycamore bows of high poundage, perfect for hunting and they last a really long time if well taken care of. Some last longer than others and some last a lifetime. Yes there is a major difference between the different types of bows but the main purpose is it's a hunting tool, to place an obscene price on it is ridiculous in my opinion, how much does one think it's worth is the question opposed to the quality and how good and effective the product is itself. I completely understand the "you get what you pay for" concept but when bows reach to the thousands of dollars in price and the only difference is the name that is written on it, that is more like "make me rich suckers" status, not this is a high quality bow and worth your hard earned money. The actual cost to engineer a good, solid, workable, and high quality bow for just one person is very expensive however in a production line punched out thousand daily starts cutting the price of production to extremely minimal cost thus $300 to even $400 dollars is a solid fair price for a compound bow making the budget bow term more like $75 to $150 not $300 as it is so commonly said nowadays.
Great video. Thanks for doing this. Very entertaining. Only minor “issue” I had was how quickly you said no to it being a hunting bow. Your opinion is your opinion and I’m not dogging on you but it seems bizarre that you’d do this test which essentially “proved” archery is more about good practice, proper form, and a good mindset than having the best bow on the market but turn around and say the IEP couldn’t be a hunting bow. I know about the string stretch and the back wall being a little squishy but in the right hands, this is a stone cold deer killer.
Thank you so much! You're exactly right. Haha, I've had to explain this so many times 😂. This bow can be an absolute monster in the right hands. Why I say that I wouldn't recommend it as a beginner hunting bow is because the weaknesses are too major for a beginner. It would be super easy to injure an animal if the archer lacked experience and was hunting with the stock bow. I never want that to happen. If the archer is willing to put in the time and effort into tuning and form, this bow will be killer. I know the majority of archers don't have the time nor the resources to be able to super tune the bow and change their form to be as accurate as possible. That's why I wouldn't exactly recommend it as a beginner hunting bow. I hope this makes sense! Thanks for watching!
Can you reccomend a good cheap compound for a beginning hunter? I am in the market and I have gone down the rabbit hole and everything was pointing toward this diamond until I see this comment haha. I am willing to go up to 500ish for budget
@@traesdb11 What's up man! Thanks for watching by the way. In regards to your question, the Diamond Infinite Edge is a solid bow if you can put in the time to practice with it. And since it is under your budget, this allows you to buy custom strings which I highly recommend that you do (The stock strings that come with the diamond are not that great). I believe this will help you a lot in improving accuracy. If you're thinking about going with a different bow, I'd recommend that you go to your local archery shop and try out the bows in your budget. When testing these bows, focus on the grip, draw cycle, and any other factors that may be important to you (ie. speed, vibration, etc). I hope this helps and let me know if you have anymore questions! My email is always open as well: samuelwhitearchery@gmail.com
Thank you tons for the response man I really appreciate it. I Will for sure keep that in mind and I'm glad it isnt disqualified :) Keep up the great content. I just subscribed last night so I look forward to it all.
Is it an X at 10:30???? YES! Take it from a long range (mile +) rifle shooter! When I score NRA 1,000 yard F-Class matches, I have to score the bullet holes in the similar paper targets, and some bullets are smaller diameter than those X23's which range from .363 - .420, where I can see bullet diameter as small as 6mm (.23). That shot crossed the X line!!!!
great video and yes, i did watch it 'til the end! hey, i got 2 questions. one is early on you mentioned that the string/cables were cheap. wondering if you ever swapped those out for better quality and did that help with the issues you mentioned toward the end (ie, starting off great with all "X's" and ending up with more "9's" towards the end. also having to mess with the tuning almost throughout the sessions). 2nd question is your adjustments required a bowpress. didn't i see somewhere that the diamond line allows for adjustments without the need for a bowpress? i'm thinking maybe the diamond edge sb-1??
Thank you so much and thanks for watching! I wasn't able to get my hands on a custom set of strings, but from my experience, that would definitely help with the bow's major issues. In regards to the draw length adjustment, for the specific draw length that I wanted, the screws would be sitting behind the limbs. This meant that I had to put it in the press to put the screws in the correct place. I hope this answers your questions!
I think that would definitely be a good investment. 1 thing that I noticed with this bow was it was really tough to tune since the strings and cables wouldn't stop stretching (they did over time, but it took a while). The timing would also change slightly depending on temperature which is a huge negative. If you invested in higher quality strings, these shouldn't be much of a problem. I hope this helps, thank you for watching!
I started shooting local tournaments when I was 16 with a bear whitetail 2. Lol. Placed or won several. All about how much time you are willing to spend with the bow.
you can kill an elk with a bow carved from a piece of wood or a PVC bow. With enough practice you can use any decent bow for hunting. Clay Hayes 6 year old son killed a 90lb pig with a 20lb self bow. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uyw_zt3pn9E.html
I have three kids in the JOAD program so can't afford target bows. I purchased one of these new off of craigslist for $165. My daughter shoot this in Vegas and Cincinnati last year. She has been flirting with olympian for 2 years shooting 280's (with the original strings) shooting 2315 Eastons with 125 grain (i think) tips. I love watching her beat the cocky $1000 bow shooters. More than just a starter bow. It will perform well until your budger allows for that target bow to put you up to the top.
That's awesome! I always love seeing budget bows beat down on the crazy expensive competition bows, haha! I wish her luck on getting that Olympian pin! Thanks for watching
Matt Skindzier glad to hear it. I just bought this bow the other day. I had a good day yesterday with it. Shot around 100 arrows total throughout the day. I’m brand new to archery and am having a heck of a time getting my sight right. Aside from the accuracy I should have at 20 yards, it’s got a great amount of power and a very smooth shot. I’ve got more tinkering to do with the sight but overall I’m very happy with it.
I have the Diamond Razor Edge that came out way before the Infinite Edge. Slayed a buck a year since I got it. It’s maxed out at 60lbs. I named it “Tags” cause I fill them every year! I want to get one with a heavier draw weight but Tags never disappoints.
The problem is, the same people that buy these bows are the same people who don't know a clue about proper tuning, and bows like these are typically bought from big box stores, where you cant properly get them tuned. So crappy bows will still shoot crappy most of the time :/ Not so much as the bows fault, but you have to realize the target audience here. Also, I would love to see you try and shoot the bow as accurately with just stock accessories, as that's a more realistic use case I would think. Overall, great video, cheers mate!
Thank you, I really appreciate it! You're exactly right and that's what I wanted to convey in this video. A crappy bow isn't as crappy as people think. But only if they put in the time and effort into tuning, practice, etc. Thanks for watching!
Ha, ha! "Wow you made it this far into the video", well this was a fun yet educational video. Great video as always, great professionalism, keep up the good work!!
What's impressive about this is that bow is in no way shape or form a target bow. It's a starter hunting bow. You could argue that there's no difference but there is....
The diamond edge sb1 is the first bow I ever shot. And got me addicted a little over two years ago. Loved it. The two bowes are very similar. I adjust it back and forth for myself and my kids. To get someone new to try archery this is a grate bow for that. I shot it at 25 inch 70 lb and my kid at 22 inch and about 20 lb. And only takes a couple min to swap it.
Wish I could afford a $300 dollar bow. I'm having to use an $80 dollar bow (leader accessories) 55#. I still think it is a great bow for target practice.
I'm with you brother. 300 for a bare bow is not cheap to me lol. I'm not a competitive shooter so I don't have a reason. The pse stinger shoots nice and found it for $80 used with arrows, release and broadheads.
Hey Samuel, Great vid. excellent idea.You're results back up what I've always believed. I've said on many of Jimis vids. it's more about technique than the bow. Here's another angle, get your hands on a couple of 15 or 20 year old compounds and I bet you will get the same result. I shot a Hoyt Protec (one of the very first split limb bows), back in the late 1990's to a WA 100 rating (Grand Master Bowman) so it's more about technique for shore. But, the modern compounds feel soooo much nicer in the hand and sound better for sure, keep the vids. coming mate, I have to get Jimi of his lazy arse and do a video. Cheers Coach Gary ExA...................
Thank you so much, that means a lot! You're exactly right, I'll have to see if I can get my hands on an old bow like you said. I'll make sure to keep the videos coming! Hahaha, please do! I miss all of Jimi's live streams! Thanks again Coach Gary!
I grabbed a stinger a few weeks ago with a nice release and arrows for $80. Shoots great. I've been out of bow shooting and hunting for well over a decade now. Today I'm grabbing one of those 45/60 vortex that I've seen around. Pretty sure it's going to be a disposal-bow but we'll see. 65 bucks new with a new ameristep outhouse blind also nib.
Id like you to test out the Hoyt Powermax.... hoys version of a budget bow! Im going to get one soon, first bow, new to archery and bowhunting, but research pointed me to the Powermax.... thanks for the content!!!
Ahh...good video until you said it wouldn't be a good Hunting bow...mmmm I gotta disagree. I hunt with compound and traditional gear. Tons of deer die from stickbows every year...this bow would have no problem killing a deer even from a novice. Your appear to only be a paper puncher...stay in your lane.
100% agree, i was a teenager when i got an earlier model of diamond in left hand and grew up with it. dropped many deer with that setup. finally maxed out the poundage on it last week and im about to move onto a new bow. but i gotta say, I literally molded to that bow and it never let me down. one of the best setups for a young archer who shoots left hand but cant find a setup. I will agree tho, the stock string does have a lot of elasticity, and should be changed out if you want to get serious with it, you can hear that the bow doesnt slam with its highest potential when stock.
It's a great bow! Yeah the stock strings are my main worry about the bow. That's why I warn people about hunting with it, that weakness can be major if the shooter lacks in experience. Thank you so much for watching!
This is exactly why I keep my head in the sand about bows. I've been hunting the same cheap bear compound I bought used in 2009 and it's killed a blacktail every year since. It was 60 bucks. Hell I watched my buddy carve a osage stick bow and take an elk last year, I don't even think his bow has a rest.
That's probably the best score anyone has put up with a Diamond anything. I thought you were going to get a 300 on the last game. Did the string stretch? Did the timing change during the testing? Remember that you are a pro. and as a pro you are capable of tuning far beyond most archers. You mentioned several times how difficult it was to tune. What were the problems? Did you try it as a true beginner style rig? Short stab., pin sight, etc. I'd be curious to know how it shot for you that way, as hat's how it is most likely to be used. The footage from JOAD class at Tanglewood brought back some memories for sure. That old Hoyt was almost a big as you were. Keep up the good work.
Hahaha thanks Ray! I was really going for that 300, but the bow couldn't seem to hold steady enough. The bow wouldn't let me use any back tension to help it settle down so I just had to let it float until it went in the middle. The strings definitely did stretch while tuning and I made sure to put a ton of arrows through it before getting it fully setup. I wouldn't be surprised if the string stretched during actual practice. The timing would change depending on the temperature so that could have been a part of the issue. During tuning, the main issue was the timing because of the strings stretching and the other issue was nock travel. After messing with the bow for a while, I got it into shape, but it was pretty time consuming. I did not try it as a true beginner style rig, that would have been a really good test to try though. In the raw video of the Tanglewood footage, I can actually hear you speaking in the background. It's a neat little throw back and I'm really glad that we filmed back then. Thank you so much!
The only reason a piece of equipment fails our test... Our own inability to perform with the gear... " garbage in... Garbage out"... True every time! Practice with your gear properly n it will return a good yield everytime! Been shooting since 1957... Some selfmade bows, some production gear... All the same! Came down to consistent style of shooting and practice! Just my humble opinion !
Omg I know this range your shooting at this is crazy this vid got randomly recommend to me and when I clicked it I was like OMG is that ************* range in *********** that's crazy I KNOW THAT PLACE
What? No Way- Everyone knows the more money you drop, the more success you'll have, it's the American way ( insert heavy sarcasm here). THANKS for your time and effort making this vid👍I really enjoyed it, and even learned a little about the target world. I just hunt and practice, but with a "target" bow, PSE Phenom DC. I'd like to see a PSE Drive, and or Stinger review, and yes watched till the end.
Such a good video, nice information on a decent budget bow once you spend some time on tuning it. So glad your not that wanker archer that twirls every arrow before every shot.......
I am having huge success with this bow, I normally use it for bowfishing but retuned it, swapped out arrows and took it to the 18M indoor range at my club. After two ends I'm shooting playing cards in half, edge on. And yeah, from a field quiver I twirl arrows as well, it's just easier to load, am I right.
Thanks for posting this video and yes watched all 20:51 mins I got this same bow 2 months ago, as I am a total novice at 46 yrs old. Your dead on it takes alot of tuning glad my coach /bow tech is patient. Lol. I do have one question we both have the same draw length and weight. What grain and spine arrows are you using. Again thanks for the great video. Looking forward to new videos and going through your older ones.
Thank you so much! I used Easton X23s 2315's at 29" (shaft to shaft) with 200 grain points. I did paper tune, but I never arrow tuned (play with different point weights and shaft lengths). I just grabbed some arrows out of my basement and set them up for the bow. I would make sure to play around with it haha. Hopefully this helps!
Hi I'm an re-curve archer and planning to convert into compound target archery saw the video and is this a good bow to start target compound archery with ?
It's fine, but I imagine you could find a bow for a little more money that would be better suited for target archery. I'd suggest looking for a longer axle to axle, some around 35" or more so the bow is more stable. PSE make the phenom for about 500 ish that will be a good starter target bow, win and win also make a couple of compound bows for slightly cheaper that aren't too shabby for a first bow.
Excellent video. I would love to see a similar review of the PSE carbon stealth 35, because has two drawbacks for target shooting: is extremely light and lacks rear screw for stabilizer (albeit that can be corrected with modular stabs).
I know right, I should have tried it with all the stock components on the first day! That would have been a super interesting test. I'll have to do that for the next bow. Thanks for watching!
Great video! I just bought one for my 14 year old girl yesterday, whos brand new to shooting. She was doing pretty well at the shop after her bow got set up. After she gets her form down and gets to where she’s getting very consistent any longer ranges, which accessories would be the ones to upgrade first? Or which ones that come with the bow do you think are the weakest? I was thinking the rest, but I’m no authority at all.
Thank you so much! You're completely correct, the rest is likely the best area to start. This is because of the importance of paper tuning and making sure her arrow is coming out straight. If the rest she has now doesn't have the micro-tunability to produce a straight arrow flight, I would start there (especially if she's using a whisker biscuit). Is she wanting to get into bowhunting or just shoot targets?
@@SamuelWhiteArchery Thanks for the reply; shes just shooting targets now, and weve had a bit of an issue sighting her in. seems like shes hitting left a lot more than she should based on where her pin is, so I was starting to wonder if the rest may be out. Ive been trying to watch her release to see if shes torquing the string or something like that, but I dont see anything. Not that im a pro either.
@@wyoming777 I assume she's right handed. Is she perhaps left eye dominant? That could be causing really bad left misses, but it's not sounding like she's missing that badly. You could be right about the rest. Have you guys shot it through paper? If you'd like, contact me at samuelwhitearchery@gmail.com and you can send me some shooting footage. I can take a look and I'll let you know if I see anything that could help.
True, that would have been pretty epic! It wouldn't have been easy to hold steady, but that would have been a really good test to try, haha. True, I just didn't want to bore people with my tuning process, but tuning videos are on their way soon! Thanks for watching
Those are called stabilizers! They are extremely stiff hollow carbon fiber rods that hold weight on the end to keep the bow stable. You'll mostly see these on target archery setups. Let me know if you have any more questions, thanks for watching!
My dad bought one of the first infinite edges years ago and fell in love, I just recently bought the edge pro and got it tuned up within 1 hour and grouping within 1/4 in
My dad bought one of the first infinite edges years ago and fell in love, I just recently bought the edge pro and got it tuned up within 1 hour and grouping within 1/4 in
@@SamuelWhiteArchery I am going to follow you on Instagram. I may bug you about the archery consult as I sadly suffer badly from target panic. please keep the videos coming. sfosterbjj on Instagram
@@xiaemperor Thank you and of course! If you ever want to sign up for the free consultation/session you can go to www.strongshotarchery.com/get-started You could do this whenever you'd like and I'm always open to answer questions so you can DM on Instagram if you have any.
You dont need expensive gear to be good. Bought a sanlida dragon x8 aka the amazon special which was $200 for the full kit and made in china and its a great bow. Fills me with pride when i shoot better than all the buyhards with their Mathews bows and $20 a pop goldtip airstrike arrows. My whole set up (bow, arrows, releases, sight,rest, etc) probably under $400 and I'm still one of the better archers at the range with only 2 months of shooting experience too. The bow is quiet, has a smooth drawcycle, solid backwall, and is super consistent. Not to mention, it's pretty much completley self serviceable. Adjustable from 0-70lbs through the limb screw and you just need to loosen and adjust 2 screws in the cams to change draw legnth. Cam timing was spot on out the box, string was already stretched and there's little to no cam lean on it. After buying some cheap levels and using the rope limb screw trick to find my center shot i didn't even bother paper tuning. They fly so perfectly straight that i can't even see them once they go flying unless i get just the right lighting.
I've been looking at getting the Bear Archery Cruzer G2. Would be curious to see what you think about it and if you have the same issues with tuning the bow as the diamond.
I shoot 3d and hunt. I picked up a Cruzer G2 just to play with. It tuned easily enough. The cams were timed perfectly. It does have a lower quality string and the wall isn't rock solid but not too bad. It's a great shooter even outfitted with budget accessories. Probably not gonna replace my hunting or competition rigs but it has a lot going for it... it's a Bear, they make good bows. It shoots arrows straight. If nothing else it just looks so cool!
Good job. You are amazing to watch shoot. I am not nearly as accurate as you. Thank you for doing this. This will help a lot of people who are scared from catalog prices. The tuning required, most people like myself just aren't qualified to do or have access to equipment to do it with. I have went to traditional recurve which can get started even cheaper.
I saw feather fletching and was thinking "You can get a pretty good recurve or longbow for $300, obviously yes" and then I realized he was talking about compounds.
I know I'm coming into this really late but as an avid Montana hunter I use this bow as my "practice" bow throughout the year as I can adjust the weight down far enough that I don't get fatigue from long practice sessions simply to keep my muscles in shape. For hunting I shoot a Bowtech BTX 31 set to 70 pounds which is putting my arrows down range at over 320 FPS. That said, back to the point, the Infinite Edge is a fantastic bow for just having fun with the kids and keeping you in shape for hunting season and it's a good backup bow to keep at Elk camp just in case your primary bow has problems.
I was totally with you on every part of this review until youd said you dont recommend it as a budget hunting setup. I think that where you hunt, the type of hunting, and whether or not you are willing to have a pro-shop do your fine tuning after a break in period. I live in the north east and ive never actually shot at a deer over 40 yards with the vast majority of my shots being within 25 yards. I feel as though, with a little practice, this bow would be fitting for hunting purposes such as these. Obviously not out 'west' where longer shots are common place as its clearly not in that playing field though capable in the right hands. Personally, i believe that single cam bows allow the most forgiveness and somewhat longer brace heights normally, which adds to that furthermore. They still offer plenty of speed at the same time. I feel that its too widely accepted that you need flagship type performance to kill deer when realistically 40lb of draw weight pushing a roughly 400gr arrow is COMPLETELY adequate within say 30 yards, which is where i feel the vast majority of bow shots are taken in hunting situations. That being said, i do agree that higher end bows and tech do make shooting at high levels, and in less than ideal positions to boot, much easier. I do feel however that the advancement in compound bow tech in the last 15± years has undoubtedly trickled down into 'lower end' bows to the point that $400-500 bow setups today would match or surpass flagship bows of a decade ago. Nobody should be ashamed of shooting bows on a budget. Especially in todays archery world. My local gander outdoors is going out of business, they wont say it out loud but the whole store is 40% off. Id love to see a Barnett Vortex Hunter (45-60lb) reviewed as i feel its the ULTIMATE basement bargain. I believe its listed as $100 and comes with a sight, rest, and quiver. (You can imagine the quality of those) but if its actually functional... I can pick it up for literally $60 brand new right now....
Hey Bryan! During the video I made the mistake of not explaining further about shooting it as a hunting bow. Here's what I meant - this bow can be an absolute monster in the right hands. Why I say that I wouldn't recommend it as a beginner hunting bow is because the weaknesses are too major for a true beginner. If I did recommend it as a beginner hunting bow, I know there would be somebody that would take the bow out with little to no practice or tuning. It would be super easy to injure an animal if the archer lacked in experience and was hunting with the stock bow. I never want that to happen, especially as a result of my recommendation. If the archer is willing to put in the time and effort into tuning and form, this bow will be perfect. I know the majority of archers don't have the time nor the resources to be able to tune the bow and change their form to be as accurate as possible. I hope that makes sense and clears things up! I'll definitely look into that bow and see if I can get my hands on it at some point! The local Gander Mountain closed down a while ago, so it might be a little tough to find a Vortex Hunter. Nonetheless, I'll be looking into it. Thanks for watching and for the great comment!
@@SamuelWhiteArchery I do understand your point, and I gathered what the point was you were getting at was. I do agree that stock accessories on these budget bows are on the low end to keep price down. While functional, they leave a lot to be desired. (The Barnett vortex Hunter that I mentioned looks to be fitted with accessories that are the absolute lowest end possible, think budget sight, rest, and quiver from a decade ago and you are getting there.) I understand why you went with the route you had to find the true accuracy potential of such a budget bow, and I'm not disappointed. Not along the lines of your argument that if someone, especially on the lower budget end, doesn't have the ability or tools to do a proper tuning of the bow that its good practice to 'shoot the bow in' somewhat after the initial setup to let the budget string/cables 'stretch in' and then have the bow properly tuned and check for proper tuning at least before the start of every season and a bow in this range should be functional for most entry level archers in most hunting scenarios. It takes loads of practice with any setup to be able to be reliably accurate to 40 yards plus. As you'd mentioned in your reply, not everyone has the access of location available to practice as much as needed to be able to be reliably accurate with this bow, I moved recently and don't have the yard to practice over 30yds. In years past I would shoot out to 60+ in practice sessions and now I limit myself to 30 yards in hunting situations as I'm simply not confident in my current abilities to cover what I once could. It is what it is. I also have a small pro-shop 3 miles from my house, so I at least have that to my advantage.
I love this bow. I did buy it for hunting though and am curious as to why you think it's not a good option for hunting? I'm a beginner at bow hunting and haven't shot the higher end bows and have stock everything on my infinite edge pro. So, any recommendations for sights, rest, and release would be much appreciated! Great video!
Thank you so much! This bow is a great bow, but I'm just worried about the weaknesses and how that can effect a hunter that's under a lot of pressure. When I shot the bow, I noticed some major weaknesses like the smushy wall. In a high pressure situation we naturally get more tense and pull more into the wall, which will cause the arrow to shoot high. I would never want an animal to suffer so my expectations for hunting bows are really high. If you feel confident in your shooting with this bow, I bet it will be a great hunting bow for you! I just tend to set my expectations pretty high haha. Also, since this bow is so low budget, they had to cut corners on the strings, so I would highly recommend buying new strings and cables if you can. This should make the bow a lot more consistent. If you put enough practice into it, this bow will shoot fantastic! I hope this helps! Feel free to ask if you have any more questions!
@@johntamez7971 Personally, I use Hamskea arrow rests and they work like a charm. They are a bit on the pricey side, but I would highly recommend them. Here are some links, Hamskea Target Rest: amzn.to/2MaqufZ Hamskea Hunting Rest: amzn.to/2AOmsoW For a sight, I use a Sure Loc sight that I've had for about 4-5 years. In my opinion, all sights are basically the same so it's all about choosing one in your price range that will work for what you're doing (whether it's hunting or target archery). For hunting, my sight is an old hand-me-down Axcel Accutouch sight that got ran over, but still works (after a few repairs) hahaha! I don't know what type of hunting you're going to be doing so I'm not sure what sight I could recommend you.
I'm a beginner archary hunter my bowtec guy told me i could hunt just fine with it. I've shot it i believe him. I got me a javalina tag and plan on using my Diamond infinite edge pro, I'll just keep my strings waxed, my cover on while i track and a cool calm heart rate when i find one. Take care of it it will take care of you kind of thing.
@@isaacrodriguez2523 You're exactly right! You definitely can hunt with it, especially with the effort you're putting in to make it stay consistent in harsh climates. Thank you for watching! I wish you luck on your hunt
A bow, like a computer.. Is a " tool"... That said... GARBAGE IN= GARBAGE OUT! Not the computer's fault... OR... the bows fault! Nuff said! Been shooting since I was 5 N am 68 this September! Been shooting " old school trad", n , new whizz bang compound whatevers! Makes no dif to me!! If you the shooter have bad habits during your shot cycle, you, not the bow SUCK! You are the problem! NOT THE BOW N NOT THE ARROWS!!! YOU need to fix you!!! Period! I'm out! I got some paint to watch dry! GWW... Ooouuuttt!!!
You Da Man! I was waiting for so long for someone to make this move. And also to take a 300 bucks bow with cheap accessories and arrows into the woods and hunt the shit out of everything what moves on the North American Continent. Great vid Samuel. Courageous move. Diamond,...I mean Bowtech will never get back to you. They need to sale their flagship bows. They advertise this bow if I'm not mistaking as a cheap but decent recreational bow.
Everywhere near the Denver area. Bear Creek Archery, High Altitude Archery (where this was filmed), and Archery in the Wild. If you're at any of those shops, you'll likely see me around. Thanks for watching, man!
what did fred bear shoot? that $300 bow is probably piles better, but it doesn't mean YOU will be better. and neither does a $1000 bow, just that you'll be poorer.
