WOW MAGI EDITED HER OWN VIDEO SO SICK (im about to leave for the airport so i couldn't quite get it fully edited like i wanted to do it but OH WELL) EDITED BY ME BITCH / ssbmagi #ssbmagi #falco #smashbros #mentality #melee
I definitely agree with the ideas you brought up in the video, such as school grades. Learning to separate performance from self worth is something I have been trying to work on. Great video, looking forward to more Magi discussion videos :)
Being bad at melee and an internal mindset of being not valued in the community I feel coincides directly by the methods players use to improve. I've never been to a local where top players are not swarmed to be practiced with, and obviously these top players need quality practice, so they tend to choose to play with better players. I definitely see at least in my local scene a natural grouping of players, where top players mostly interact with top players, mid level players mostly interact with mid level players, etc. It almost creates a barrier to improvement for people, because even when top players give low level players a chance, I rarely see more than a secondary trolling and a handshake. The top level players that actually take time to give worse players avenues of genuine improvement are the ones that save scene from this mentality. That's just my take as a 2-2 career average player. Great video though, I definitely think people need to see this early in their melee endeavors.
yep i agree and originally brought this point up in the first draft of my video, but i only brought it up as an example of how this mentality can affect things in a community-wide way instead of an individual level. i try my best to not put blame on any one group, and I don't think it's the responsibility of a skilled player to be the one to magically stop this idea since it really is an internalized idea that we're all taught, and like you said at the end of the day skilled players do want quality progress and they should reserve the right to be able to spend their time at tournaments doing as they please, but i definitely agree that the skilled players have a lot of influence in addressing this issue and any of them that go out of their way to combat it are helping a lot. it's just a little nuanced and i think i want to navigate that part of this topic carefully if i do have a sequel video, i just hate how the internet perceives conversations like that because i really want to avoid people thinking I'd be accusing the top players of creating this issue.
@@SSBMagi 100% agree top players deserve their quality practice, especially in a local environment where time is limited. Not at all blaming top players for wanting to play more quality practice, I just think that's one of the evils of melee. You have to be able to get your own personal practice high enough to have access to high quality practice, like any other sport.
This video really reached out to a place I've been in a while. Been playing Melee casually for about 7 years, only recently started to compete in brackets, weighed down by a lot of these mental obstacles mentioned in the video. I started to try and look at my progress relative to myself. Seeing what I'm capable of on the sticks now as opposed to even a couple months ago, to as far as a year ago. I've come a long way, and now with finally having the confidence to compete and start going to locals and majors, I think I'll be able to take it much further, and push my own limits for my own satisfaction in seeing how much I can impress myself. Looking forward greatly to the long road ahead.
When I play Apex with my friends, I usually self-deprecate after I miss part of my spray. I realized recently that its not funny or helpful to say that in voice comms, and that really I'm just creating a negative feedback loop. When my friend who is much better than me misses, he doesn't need to comment on it, he just resets the situation and tries again. I've been trying to be more patient with my improvement, or at least less vocal about my disappointment lmao. Thanks for this video.
i remember when i first started out i’d be genuinely offended by losses, i don’t know how to explain it and i didn’t know how to control it back then but for some reason it felt like every player that beat me was personally offending me
Ok, but i think that tying your self worth to how good you are now, compared to how good you were in the past (not compared to others) is a healthy thing. If you put hours into something every day and see no improvement at all then there's something wrong, somewhere, and fixing that will probably make you a better person in general imo.
i super agree that it's good and healthy to be proud of the progress you've made, and generally speaking improving as a player is a good sign that you're making progress as a person and tying your self worth to that progress is fine, it just is a potentially emotionally volatile thing when you run into failures and if you don't do a good job not comparing yourself to others. you have to make sure to not equate bad results with an idea that you're inferior as a person, though it is obviously important to try and identify where you're failing and improve those areas, and being able to be accountable for those failures and to identify and improve them instead being stubborn. and also when you are comparing yourself to others you end up in a lot of potential pitfalls with low self esteem are getting a big ego, but successfully navigating your failures and also doing a good job grounding yourself from comparisons to others is definitely the recipe to healthily be proud of your progress and to have healthy self worth with your progress
idk if this makes any sense, but i applied the mentality this video presents to the context social situations and i think it still works. Just because you're not good at talking in a group doesn't mean no one really cares about what you have to say, eg.
Even without the chase for fame or respect, I think competitive people can fall into that self-abusive mindset. I know I recover from mistakes faster when I don't get mad at myself for those mistakes. You and PP both need to target these kinda talks towards the broad fgc and not just in the melee scene.
The concept of "I need to get these results because otherwise I'm garbage" as motivation vs. "seeking excellence" as motivation reminds me a lot of this video I watched a few years ago which has been very impactful on me. "The Force is Real... But You're Probably a Sith." ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-veYFAIE9fD8.html One path is using dark side energy and the other is using light side energy. Sure, the dark side has some power, but ultimately it's self-destructive and nothing like the fulfillment, or, for that matter, power of the light side. Great video. Thank you!
