"and beneath it all is this child who is deeply sensitive and naturally very empathetic who has trouble processing all the emotional stimuli that the world is throwing at him, compensates for that through all manor of behavior and creating all kinds of chaos. Only to return to this place where he has to heal himself so that he can embrace his natural tendency toward empathy and celebrate his sensitivity" rich roll always with the perfectly articulated wisdom
This is the second podcast that ive seen of his. I loved the one on joe rogan but seeing this one just made me see the reality. I dont think hes bad per say but defntly makes up alot of stuff for attention. I just read that hes a pathological liar which i kept thinking while watching the podcast as ive known someone who was one. Also hes been diagnosed with sociopathy, i think you should take wt he says with a grain of salt. Im definItely not going to watch anymore of his stuff.
There's a level of radical honesty that Dave brings to the table that is unlike anything else I've ever experienced. He bears the messiness of what it's like to be human so openly. He has lived such a narly life, it's crazy. I'm grateful to him for sharing his story and to Rich for having him on.
@@b_i_l_l_w_i_l_l_i_a_m_s_o_n i think he's great but he creates problems by believing pseudo-intellectual nonsense. he's extra. like just chill dude. say less
@@judithbreastsler I’m sure that he needs you there to tell him what or how much he should or shouldn’t say. Like I said in my original comment, you should say less
Growing up Korean-American with a super religious mom who won't respect boundaries, having unconventional addiction issues, having trouble validating childhood abuse, struggling with intrinsic shame, I thought I was alone in this struggle. Thanks David Choe, for not giving a fuck and being yourself. Not even my therapist can help me recognize and acknowledge my traumas as abuse, but hearing it from someone else who lived such a similar experience is helping me address these wounds more than therapy can.
I love your comment. I emigrated here from SW Africa. Super religious authoritarian parents, childhood trauma, struggled with addiction… same. This was good for my soul. His voice and his authenticity. Just gold. 💛
Korean-American [check] Mom who won't respect boundaries [check] Abusive father [check] Unconventional addiction issues [maybe-not-so-much] Hey man, hugs from one Korean-American to another !
im kim chi too and all this shit about his childhood is some typical korean stuff. it goes deeper than his parents. they probably went thru way worse as children.
High risk behaviour. It's so interesting that humans have a propensity and capacity for this behaviour. That there is a self challenger and self saboteur / self destructive behavioural mechanism. I don't know any other animal that's so risky it borders on suicidal. 🤔
Well the same with me. Gambling actually ruined my reputation, pocket and the ones i loved. Im 32, my parents died a few years ago, my gf got married to another man, and im living alone, with depression, eating a meal worth of 1$. (Once in a day). And ofc i became alcoholic.
Why ? Because he showed a little emotion publicly, ? Or because he expressed something similar to what you felt? I'm not criticising you, I just wondered why it will always stay with you?... By the way I. really liked Anthony Bourdain, and I've had suicide in my family and my head, many attempts. But I just wondered why that would stay with you?( I've seen it)
@@JulioEuropePharmaVendor you've been sippin too much of that tussipax ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j7T6__UbhBI.html bourdain was reppin choe day 1 as a new upcoming personality and reached out to choe days before he abruptly took his own life. Now, with that in mind, this does not conclusively prove their relationship was intimate... but.. to have someone admit their serious state of deppresion days before they commit suicide can leave a person with serious survivor's guilt. If i would have, if i just... That is a strong visceral emotion to hold repress and/or live with, I'd even argue that a person who did not shed some sort of tear from a situation similar to this suffers from some form of antisocial personality disorder.
@@Lazar819. ok i didn’t know that because i couldn’t find really something about them two together and yeah maybe I was on Oxy. I love Choe. Dumb comment on my side
Riches meaning of why he runs reminded me of the qoute from Haruki Murakami" By physically running I can exhaust that portion of my discontent. It also makes me realize again how weak I am. How limited are my abilities are. I become aware physically of these low points. And one of the results of running that much further ~ I become a little stronger. "
also, I've been a PTSD therapist for the last 15 years and this is one of the greatest conversations I've ever heard. I ended up sending it to many of my clients and it them benefited as well. Thank you #DavidChoe. I know you will not see this...but you are truly amazing
@@NASkeywestyes and expensive as hell, and they just teach you to rearrange the furniture in your prison cell, instead of healing the trauma, life got better quiting therapy, there's better solutions to whatever ails you
"Creativity is God", Dave Choe has ascended the physical plane as we know it, where which he doesn't need to compromise himself anymore for corporate gain or superficial fame. He craves only realness with himself and with others. I applaud him for the years of work and self-reflection he has put in to get himself to this point.
Don't agree with that at all. Way to general. People who drink or take drugs are addicted to booze and narcotics, not the thrill of gambling. Taking resulting risks like driving drunk is not what they are addicted to. The gambler is addicted to the risk of the bet. Very different.
@@DanHunterSportsWriterhe’s not saying it in a away that means all addicts have a drive for adrenaline and choose to do drugs or alcohol to create a sense of danger, but being an addict means you know what your addicted to has the ability to destroy you but your brain can’t stop. You can’t help to fight the risk vs reward.
I’ve never heard anyone else articulate the way they self sabotaged with the hopes of it causes self destruction by proxy before. I’m grateful af to hear this.
The Higher power works through everyone who surrenders to it. I felt his moment, deeply and felt connected to his experience. ( don't know who is cutting onions )
Years ago, the first 2 podcasts I listened to seriously were RRP and DVDASA. Couldn’t be more different and wow, now seeing Rich and David together. My mind is blown!
David is right. If Rich took six months off, he wouldn't lose one fan. Not one. I've been on a Rich Roll Podcast listening hiatus for a while now, but it's so worth it to return to this conversation today. I'll always be a Rich Roll fan.
Rich, This is my first episode of this podcast and I found it to be beyond real raw and relevant. I cried 4 times not because David was paused by the whelm of his emotions, but by how that whelm allowed him to be more revealing, more open, more vulnerable, which allowed me to see myself in his inner reflection. You both have my respect, my thanks, and I salute you both.
Turned this on for my long run this morning and did not expect such an incredible episode. Didn’t know a thing about David up until this morning and am so happy I pressed play.
My father was never vulnerable, he was religious, domineering, always right, always got the last word. I’m glad he died 24 years ago. He fathered me through fear, shame, intimidation, etc. the stuff he put on me hurt me for years! Thank you David for being vulnerable and truthful
I have been a listener of Rich for over 2 years now, and have been motivated in more ways than once to change my life for the better because of the guests you've had...but David Choe's honesty and Rich's honest perspective on David's life has genuinely changed my outlook on life. I'm not strange...I'm myself and can do better in my own way...
In a world of disconnect and lonely humans, as addictive as chaos in life can be, Dave's one constant of *nurturing friendships* as his saviour is so spot on. Community, love and connection is THE most important thing we have in this life. No matter how exemplary or wretched of a human you have been, or still are, if you have connection you're alive.
“Persons with severe addictions are among contemporary prophets that we ignore to our own demise, for they show us who we truly are.” K. Dunnington ~ Thanks Rich for another great one! ✌️
I love hearing David Choe talk. Especially when he's abruptly interrupted by an interviewer while he's in the middle of telling his story. Doesn't pull me out of the scene at all.
I can totally resonate with David's story because growing up Asian, personally, it takes a lot of guts to keep the difficult stuff that we never talked or shared about for fear of shame, guilt, and fear of judgment. Knowing what I know now and healing my inner child helped me positively become the person who can share my own wisdom from alchemizing my own pain. Creativity is God co-creating through my wild child imagination. Phew! A good watch from start to finish. Thanks Rich and Dave! May all beings know that we are all love beyond, fear, ego, and old messed up childhood beliefs. We are pure Consciousness who is watching all this time. May we show up with love now more than ever.
This was an unexpected but welcomed conversation. I've followed David for well over a decade and to see his transformation here is wonderful. I am so glad he is in this place where he wants to connect and bare his soul and help other men do the same.
Thank you for having David Choe on as your guest. His real and authentic message today resonated with me deeply. Having suffered through a mental breakdown in early 2020 (before the pandemic hit), I've started from ground zero and finally began to evaluate my life at the ripe age of 50-something, and now focus on centering my life with self-love.
I love Dave asking Rich if theres anything he's struggling with today. Always love listening to Daves openness and vulnerability. We need more of this in the world.
Absolutely loved this podcast where you were talking my language: recovery, shame, boundaries, 12-steps, etc.. It left me feeling so understood! And, Rich . . . You are an amazing interviewer! Your ability to understand and “reflect back” to your guests what they just communicated to you is off the charts! I wish that every woman on the planet had a husband who could talk to them and listen like you do! 🤔
I think the struggle of being Korean-Hispanic-American for me was the amount of confusion, pull, shame, addiction, abuse, toxicity you grow up in. Not to mention how Koreans and Hispanics were so racist to one another. Then you hit a place of no identity with over identifying. These challenges def. manifested in so many ways but I have to say the day I woke up was the day I got saved. So it's nice to hear other mixed cultural individuals sharing their stories. We are the change that bring about the new future, One heart !
I almost accused you of plagiarizing, but then I see u said "one heart" and I say "1mind.". I also went through and still facing my identity as a Jew, born in the former Soviet Union (they weren't fond of Jews..surprise) and I did half of growing up there, then the rest of my life here..although when we settled near Coney Island..the entire community was full of Russian Jews..some religious, others secular at diff levels but communism stunted religion n made it illegal so most of our parents were secular/atheists and couldn't fully explain what a jew is, why we're leaving there and going here..the adjustment disorder of parents could very easily amplify the process for their kids..
You are a goddam national treasure David Choe, thank you for being David Choe. Incredible work Rich, inarguably one of your finest interviews. So much gold in here, and so different from other Choe interviews
Amazing, two of the most inspiring people I've ever listened to are now face-to-face with one another. Although very different in persona, I see so many similarities between Rich and David, especially in their desire to truly connect with people. Thanks both.
Please don't censor yourself David! All your stories need every one of your words. You're inspiring and i hope u realize how awesome you are to listen to and learn from.
This conversation reminded me so much of the 1976 movie Network. David is speaking of many of the same themes of eliminating the mediator - the tv or media and living life on his terms - So interesting to see the parallels. Great dialogue.
I love David Choe. His transparency feels therapeutic. I love listening to him reflect on his ups & downs throughout his life, and work things out from his head within conversation. Thank you for everything man
I became addicted to listening to David talk, he is so real, so genuine, so honest and even humble. His presence and voice are captivating. I have caught myself searching for anything where I can hear him speak. I can relate with his experiences on many levels and he has helped me face my own demons. He has mentioned to Steve O that he gets very nerveous doing podcasts, so thank you David for facing your fears and opening your soul to us! You are a very interesting human being and it is a pleasure learning about your life, your struggles and how you've grown. I'm glad you got your riches, you deserve it!
My husband says , is this a 10 hr interview? I'm like no. It's just the 4th one I've watched with David Choe in the past few days. I absolutely love listening to him. I have not heard of him before. And boom! I align so much with him. Thank you so much Mr. Choe. For sharing so much of your life. I love your insight and perspective.
Suffering is the swim out to the unknown to find the perfect wave. Happiness is riding that wave home. Dedication is doing it again knowing you will suffer.
I'm always blown away by the range of interviews on this podcast but this one was in a world of its own. Brilliant, thoughtful, empathetic, and enriching dialogue between the two of you. Can't wait to hear how the challenge at the end unfolds! Thank you!
David. I have felt your pain. I have felt your suffering. I fully understand. I would love to spend a day creating art and talking with you. Thank you God for another Sober day!
I just discovered David Cho and I want to be his bro. Lol. I relate to his Authenticity. I was born after Korean war, I seen what people went through to survive as a young child. What trauma my single mom had to go through. How this spill over to me. Healing is possible when there is great empathy toward our flawed parents who did their best.
Thank you to both of you for your amazing devotion to being raw and honest, humble and committed to truly showing up as you are. Such a wonderful and insightful discussion, and very hopeful for those of us struggling to find that balance. And I can tell you, Rich, that if you took that 6 months off, I for one would be cheering you on, and watching for your return.
"ill hurt myself just to keep others entertained" that's extremely deep to any "real" artist. the fact that he says he wanted the pain and didnt want to take pills or get help to remain great at his art speaks insane waves and makes me feel weird as I am the same way. wow.
Also Korean American here. I resonated a lot. I too stole petty things, things people wouldn't miss or notice for a while. I don't know, I also felt righteous then. I haven't stole outside teenage years either. I drank and smoked since early. I was angry boi, looking for excuses to blow up. drugs too. I too had gambling phase. I liked the feeling of losing money. Because I was poor money meant a lot, so to lose it felt good because it resonated it how I actually felt but couldn't articulate since I avoided my shadow as much as I could. I wouldn't make that association for years. I also do art, but every time I went to go sell it or someone offered to buy, I was crushed with low self worth and I refused the sales. I tried to become artist but I became art collector. I too have shame that follows me and shows up unannounced. I never been diagnosed because I prefer no windows in my spaceship as it weakens structural integrity of the ship. I've been making a comeback to the surface but with advent of AI, I wonder if it even matters anymore.
Thanks Rich and David, I'm in the midst of taking addictions/eating disorders/trauma and funneling it into running/strict exercise regimes and I'm observing my usual obsessive and shaming tendencies. Trying so hard to keep it a source of joy and strength!
Wishing you strength and continued healing throughout. Around 7 years ago, after experiencing an ongoing health condition with no real answers, I decided to dedicate myself to exercise and healthy living too. It has been a steady outlet for me along with nature and music. A day at a time. Stay strong for yourself.
“In our society it’s more okay to kill yourself than to ask for help.” Wow. What a line. We need need need people it’s okay to have vulnerablities. It’s the one thing we all have in common is that we are all only human.
I feel blessed. I woke up and this was playing. I went to sleep listening to Tiger Belly. I’ve never heard of this channel. I’ve heard of David Choe before and always been impressed/fascinated by him and his experiences. Well, Rich Roll you earned my subscription right away in the intro because of how beautifully you articulate things. You are clearly a loving, kind, wonderful person and I mean that. My eyes started watering right now in typing this because of how obvious it is that you are intentionally positive, constructive, helpful, understanding and present. I’m only getting to know you and your channel but I appreciate you and the inner work you’ve done. Thank you for being you!
Ive never heard another man talk abt being so vulnerable w other men & being so open & honest about ur feelings etc. Im not surprised that ur friends aren't able to watch w girlfriends. It's too raw. Im blown away! I don't know if u realize how impactful this is going to b for other men.ur starting the ball rolling on something enormous! Ur giving men the permission to start doing their own inner work. My grandson came in while i was watching & i showed him who u r & tried to briefly explain what ur about & encouraged him to look into ur different podcasts etc if he has the inclination at same point. That's such a gift that i was able to turn him onto. U never know when a seed that uve planted will germinate & grow.! Thank u both for ur time & sharing!
I just discovered David Choe while watching old JRE then I watched wild rides podcast with him and now yours.( Your podcast is great and I subscribed) David’s honesty is inspiring, he’s fearfully fearless in a way I would like to be. I’d like to tell him, he helped me and thank you.
I have tattoos by David show, AKA invisible hour up here in seattle. He's another prolific artist - and even though he might not be "trending" like this David is, he has still made it an incredible impact in the lives of everybody he knows up here. He has over a million photos of Seattle nightlife taking between 2000 and 2021.
This was absolutely unbelievably amazing to listen to Rich. Thank you so much for allowing us to see such a vulnerable, raw side of David Choe. Your presence is so calming and you held such a judgement-free zone for David to be in. I'm so grateful for David's brutal honesty and was also shocked at how much I could relate to him at times. I am beyond grateful for this conversation as I'm sure none of that was easy to open up about. Thank you both
Rich might need six months off to recover from this conversation! What a great listen. Today happens to be my last day at my job before I take a voluntary, indefinite break from the corporate workforce. I’m thankful to witness David’s challenge, especially given the cosmic coincidence for me. It gives me optimism and reinforces my commitment to carry forward on my path, with good faith and positive energy. Much love to you both!!
Choe is my kindred soul. I broke down something serious when he said he bowed down to pray for his life to a higher power because it was probably the exact same time I was losing/finding my mind in Hawaii through some deep spiritual warfare, self inflicted martyrdom, trauma triggers, artist imposter syndrome and enabled addictions, denied daddy issues by figuring out how to escape a mentally metaphorical lost island and pay the price of paradise & societal visions of a perceived privileged , moral compass imploding, 9& 1/2 life voices telling you loud as day you’re hanging by a thread. Creative cranium calamity conundrums constantly cramming, clamoring Creator’s care. ❤ u allways, David appreciate your truth freedom-inspiring humanity.
I had never in my life found something more relatable. I am also an artist who has severely suffered from addiction. Have just started getting better over the last year but still struggling. This was so inspiring.
This is my first real introduction to David Choe I know of him, ✂️✂️✂️David to me is safe, I ask myself a lot of the same questions and it seems touchy to both of them the issue of being canceled. There is a clear presentation of a man who is openly admitted things most can’t even soberly admit they’ve thought of, forgiveness can be earned I see a real redemption and acceptance of his place today. There is such value in this gentle honesty.
