Does Homosexuality exclude one from Krishna Conciousness? 

Understanding that we are not this body is good but that is not enough, you also need to know who you are. If we are not this body, then who are we? Everyone should ask this question... According to Gaudiya-Vaishnava-Siddhanta we are part and parcels of the supreme Lord Shri Krishna and therefore true self-realisation means to understand the potential of our own selves - in the service of the Lord. That process is very mysterious and also joyfully performed. I think it does not exlude anyone, wether homosexuals or others so i am happy if we can accomodate them to feel comfortable while understanding who they truly are...Thank you for commenting Prabhu!

Hare Krishna Prabhu, i have written an article about that on my facebook page. My FB page is also my personal account so you would have to look for me: Matthias Muralidhara Sonnen. I will delete this comment once you found it so please let me know when you got it.

i deleted the article...to make it short i think it is completly unjustified and from the official letter issued i conclude that the current management involved is not aware of Srila Prabhupadas statements in regards to Vivekananda and Ramakrishna.

Weirdly enough RU-vid did not send any notification for your reply to my comment, hence missed the article😢. Yes exactly, Srila Prabhupada himself said something along the same lines. The thing is ppl are too lazy to look up the facts from history. ISKCON was wrong to ban him and whatever clarification was needed could have been given by him publicly as Amogh Lilaji does usually.

@@AD-cd9ob To be honest i think it is because pious Hindus who admire the teachings of Vivekananda and other teachers (who are non-Vaishnavas) are upset with these statements but they like to support the Hare Krishna movement as another "pious Hindu culture project" and therefore financially support these ISKCON projects quite a lot. I have seen before how when Lakshmi is involved, some like to compromise the truths of Krishna Conciouss philosophy in order to make a nice and easy living from the temple worship. A typical pitfall for aspiring Devotees to get cought up in the affairs of mundane finances... Someone in charge of a ISKCON temple should not cater to doners who will forbid us to speak about the absolute truth. Srila Prabhupada also had few doners who wanted to force him to accept their Mayavadi-Guru as equal with Srila Prabhupada but Prabhupada refused to accept the big house that was offered as a donation by the man because Srila Prabhupada never compromised the truth for material wealth. And even his disciples were loosing their mind because it was like a 1 million dollar donation that could have be used to preach Krishna conciousness - but in a watered down way so Prabhupada refused... What other motive could the leadership have to ban someone instantly instead of talking to him first? This is at best childish, at worst demoniac...

@@journeyofself-discovery-kc1853 There are so many sampradayas and philosophies in India ,who have coexisted with each other and whose views are very different from our Vaishnav Sampraday. After the emergence of social media these differences were unnaturally hyped but trust me in reality no one cares.Swami Vivekananda is from Shakta sampradaya so naturally his thought process would be different from ours. Vaishnavs , even during the time of Mahaprabhu, were persecuted/k*lled by the mughal invaders. Imagine what would be the case had they just been selfish and converted. But they stuck to Krishna and didn't give up. This goes on to show that even though Lakshmi is necessary ,we should not bend to the whims of people/donors who are here to take advantage of the innocent devotees and their practice. As you correctly said although it is necessary to take care of the finances we should not get caught up with just the money aspect of it but look at the bhav of the donor as well

I would be seriously curious how someone who considers himself homosexual could practice "no illicit sex". What is the reason to be homosexual in first place if you can just be a celibate Brahmacary? I think that is quite deceptional and not realistic. Homosexual people enjoy sex otherwise they could be Brahmacary. Also they can not produce children, so no Yajna. They can not lead a family life that is religious and natural to human nature. Of course they could adopt someone who is neglected but my expirience with speaking with homosexual couples is that they dont want children either.

@@journeyofself-discovery-kc1853 What surprises me from your reply is that you are only focussing on sex, rather than relationship. Not all couples have or want children, but they stay together in order to care and support each other through life, and for spiritual practitioners, to support each other's spiritual lives. Companionship, friendship, love, serving together, helping each other have deeper self and understanding and realisation, encouraging each other, helping each other to see where they can grow by bringing kind attention to weaknesses and poor habits, chanting, dancing, reading, supporting when things get tough, in accidents and illness, with difficult decisions, cheering each other up, comforting in pain, serving together and in all ways, living a life together of intimate companionship, affection and commitment and not being alone through life, all these and more are about sharing one's life closely with another rather than just being about having sex. There is, as I see it, a lot of difference between being a couple and a brahmacari(ini), even if both happen to be celibate.

and to say that same sex couples don't want children, well, within a moment I can think of two couples who have, a famous couple and friends I know. I am taking the time to write because you strike me as an intelligent, thoughtful man with a very likeable character

@@journeyofself-discovery-kc1853 same way as a straight man that can carry out a life of celibacy ... You are just judging people because you think all homesexuals have ilicit sex ... You need to concentrate on your own life and let everyone live their own life. I maintain a relationship with Khrisna and don't have ilicit sex. Khrisna loves me the way I am... So stop asking silly questions and let people live their lives how they want to. You can't be a fanatic about religion you have to have limits...

@@Anangamohan108 sure you are free to have your life as you want to aswell as everyone else. Why do i care for your personal life? But if Krishna loves you the way you are, why have you accepted a material body, subject to birth, death, old age and disease. If you think everything is alright with that then go ahead. There is a reason we have developed a material temporary body, not a spiritual body. That reason is material attachment, such as homosexuality. Even a stronger material attachment then ordinary sex, because that atleast is sanctioned within marriage life and the procreation of children as a vedic samskara which is giving us a space for legitamate sense enjoyment and execution of religious duties within society. Srila Prabhupada criticized the hippies for wasting their life with drugs and sex. Guru is not one who allows us to enjoy as we like, he helps us out of the forest of material enjoyment. Wether you want to take his guidance and surrender to him or not is always up to YOU as individual. But on my channel we discuss on basis of scriptures, not based on our own convictions in what is spiritual and what is matter. We follow a line of disciplic succession that enlighten us on the dilemma we are by having accepted a material body and how we are BEREFT of pure love of God. If you dont like that, we have nothing to discuss.