Does Information Create the Cosmos? | Episode 1406 | Closer To Truth 

The best of the best of all related videos of the RU-vid for the last 10 years. Thank you so much for the video! (W. Heisenberg: energy is information)

Wow, I loved this episode. The concept of integrated information and also the relation between matter, energy and information as explained by Dr. Gutt is more down to earth and aligned with current understanding. In the other hand, what Dr. Loyd said seems a matter of definition of what a computer constitutes

i love your channel, so well done, hard problems made easy to understand. I love it, for real

This is my favorite episode. ❤ At some deeper level the universe is exchanging bits of information in a giant version of a Jacquard machine. I , therefore, propose we call the universe Jacques!

The CTT presentations are always so engaging and informative.

Your series is thought provoking. Well done sir.

It from bit. You from goo. It's for videos like this I am subscribed to this channel. Truly the cutting edge of human knowledge right now.

The intro of this channel is mysterious.

Mathematics and information are constitutive not only descriptive... Every particule in the Cosmos is simply values; and the laws are relationships between them.

Great content. Glad I found your channel!

Well, if the cosmos is a giant computer program, then I can only hope that it's fixed in the next release.

Love my boy RLK! Thanx for the content my friend 👍👍

Wow, both Paul Davis and Max Tegmark were there! I am thrilled ... when is the next meeting? Can I come?

The best channel on youtube by far

This has been one of my very favorite PRESENTATIONS OF Frontline. It validated adn reinofroced a bunch of mental junk ive been twiddling with for quite a while now. This is one of the very few YT Bits that I fhonestly intend to revisit, multiple times. INFO IS REALITHY IS INFO IS REALITYU. Lol

gives me more traction continue applying information

Information is the descriptor for what matter and energy present to our consciousness.

What a time to be alive..

I consider information to be a layer of abstraction used to describe things. It is useful to us because we can use it along with processes to do things.

Thank you Rob! :)

Hasn’t everything that has existed already existed, and it’s more of a question of discovery

Great questions and answers

As a composer, I absolutely love the music in this series, including the theme.

It is extraordinary to me that nature seems to do things much the same way we do things in virtual reality. Right down to only really simulating the parts of the universe that are being observed or measured in some way. Every time two particles interact, the bits flip- processing takes place- and so the universe always maintains the causal chain of events and is ready to spit out the end result at any given moment for any who cares to measure or observe it. But until then it rests in super position- neither this nor that- but some crazy mix of possibilities that sits in-between ready to collapse one way or the other into a 3d reality our senses can process. It reminds me of those cheap paper backs we read as kids- if you choose action A go to page 23- if you choose action B go to page 38, etc., etc.- each path leading to it's own unique result. In those books your possible futures already exists- they're already laid out in black and white, determined. You can skip ahead and see your fate- do our futures already exist out there- some when? Relativity would suggest they do- if someone can see my future- it must exist in some sense. It boggles the mind- but chasing the answers brings us closer to truth.

_In the beginning was the Logos_ *Logos,* a spoken _idea_ (from Greek idea 'form, pattern,' from the base of idein 'to see') - both a noun (from Latin nomen, name) and verb (Latin verbum, word) simultaneously, a unified duality, a singularity - which presumes an intelligent agent operating with _information_ (from inform 'give form or shape to' also 'form the mind of, teach' from old French enfourmer, from Latin informare 'shape, fashion, describe,' from in- 'into' + forma 'a form.') to create the _universe_ (Latin universum, neuter of universus 'combined into one, whole,' from uni- 'one' + versus 'turned,' 'a turn of the plow, a furrow, a line of writing' from vertere).

The minimum number of things necessary for a universe is three things - 1. A particle 2. A space 3. A binary orientation for that particle to be positioned in that space

Robert Lawrence Kuhn Walking ‘round the Jungle In a Turtle-Neck - LOVE IT!

Fantastic content as always..will you please interview Melvin Vopson at the University of Portsmouth ? He a has a newly published paper on the equivalence of information, matter and energy. There is even a proposed experiment to prove it. Anyway, it is cutting edge and related to this

Thanks for another great episode! It seems to me that the bedrock of cosmology is indeed information, however this tenet can't be held in a trascendental sense. In the last analysis we always see our own reflection in the mirror of the universe, because we are nature's legislators as Kant said more than 200 hundreds years ago. However it is interesting that some acts of inspiration, and altered states of consciousness give us glimpses of how this thing-in-it-self actually works, which brings to mind this passage from Philip K. Dick, VALIS (1981): "Entry #48. ON OUR NATURE. It is proper to say: we appear to be memory coils (DNA carriers capable of experience) in a computer-like thinking system which, although we have correctly recorded and stored thousands of years of experiential information, and each of us possesses somewhat different deposits from all the other life forms, there is a malfunction - a failure - of memory retrieval. There lies the trouble in our particular subcircuit ‘Salvation’ through gnosis - more properly anamnesis (the loss of amnesia) - although it has individual significance for each of us - a quantum leap in perception, identity, cognition, understanding, world- and self-experience, including immortality - it has greater and further importance for the system as a whole, inasmuch as these memories are data needed by it and valuable to it, to its overall functioning. Therefore it is in the process of self-repair, which includes: rebuilding our subcircuit via linear and orthogonal time changes, as well as continual signaling to us to stimulate blocked memory banks within us to fire and hence retrieve what is there. The external information or gnosis, then, consists of disinhibiting instructions, with the core content actually intrinsic to us - that is, already there (first observed by Plato; viz: that learning is a form of remembering). The ancients possessed techniques (sacraments and rituals) used largely in the Greco-Roman mystery religions, including early Christianity, to induce firing and retrieval, mainly with a sense of its restorative value to the individuals; the Gnostics, however, correctly saw the ontological value to what they called the Godhead Itself, the total entity."

Ι see in the comments that there is a gap in some people's coherent reasoning here, a lot of people confuse the meaning of the word "simulation" which means the gross copy of reality, with the meaning of the word "calculate" and "computing" which means I use information (maths) to calculate and come to a conclusion. Human consciousness can not be simulated, it can only be understood as an intrinsic integrated information.Excellent video, one of the best channels on youtube.So it is obvious that we Don't live in a "simulation"🙂

If we are living in a simulation, then information could be the config file that the virtual machine used to get all the parameters during the boot up process (aka, the big bang).

Additionally, the dark energy / dark matter in the cosmos may be the medium upon which the "information" is scribed, imho.

Wow so many top scientists in one video, and as always, brilliant questions Robert. I am confused about something though; is there an actual relation between 'quantum information' and the 'integrated information' of IIT? (Other than them both using the word 'information'.) This might seem like a silly question since I don't know the mathematics behind them.

As long we need natural language to talk, we are locked in and lost in our world named consciousness.

One day we will understand it. Understand why we can't understand. Now days this mainly just hurts the ego.

I would like to see him talk to Douglas Vogt .

Kudos -- 444 Gematria -- 🗽

Information requires a structure. It is the observation of the dynamics of the underlying being.

Absolute...YES will be the answer , according to Douglas. B. Vogt of Diehold Foundation!

Particles / matter and energy seem to come from information. Information itself likely comes from mathematics and perhaps logic. Large amounts of matter and energy probably came from large amounts of information. What are the other possibilities that the large amounts of matter and energy came from?

A mind is essential to make a mind, a greater intelligence and the ultimate intelligence. It cannot be less intelligence, it has to be a greater intelligence.

I find that information gives energy and matter their functionality, dependent on human perception (consciousness and conscience), (in)forming our realities. So, if you try to escape this law of physics (like politicians do all the time), universal entropy (disorder) is accelerated, when we abide to it (within the limitations of reality, I coined 'realimiteit') a state of equilibrium can be reached, which needs to be steered in real time with information.

There is no naturally occurring information in inorganic matter. The human mind can realize/assign information to matter because the mind is intelligent.

Since there is no other possibility, the answer must be "yes"

Specified power. Significant concatenation of living organisms.

Information comes from an informer.

So basically, the universe is an ordered system. Either information has emerged from the universe, or the universe emerged from information? Perhaps the information only exists as a concept in our minds as we observe and measure the universe? Or perhaps information is a product of intelligent design...?

My theory (in part) of cosmological phenomenon: light is information emitted by the energy/matter transaction between matter and energy - like a receipt - to be read by the nucleus in regards to the health status of the cellular structure in which the nucleus presides.

I thought Information comes from Data... ....and data comes from Stuff (materials; etc) interacting?

See Alan Guth here and compare to older videos. Now check him out on an interview with Roger Penrose and skydivephil which is newer. This guy is getting younger!

Maybe there is a kind of information that comes from basic constituents of the matter properties like leptons/baryons that we don't understand yet . However the evolved complex structure of information that matter can take is based on those constituents and is like a firmware software of the universe from where the rest derives.

"In the beginning information flowed from an Infinite Mind and gave rise to time, matter and energy."

how would these gentle people feel about entanglement and the most fundamental form of information?

It's "Bits from It," not the other way around. Mind is primary. It projects ItSelf in a fractal holographic chaotic distribution, with every moment of choice in every seemingly individuated mind being a full-throttle instance of the Whole, just like the Upanishads said. The main thing to know is that your choice at that point is between Ultimate Mind versus any lifeless variation in the cosmos' programming. The Upanishads did not grok the essence of this relentless and deeply personal choice. But now (since 1948) we can, because information theory and system dynamics make plain the lay of the land for us.

Please interview me. I have a very promissing quantum gravity theory.

I lost this when one of the interviewees casually referred to Newton's explanation of understanding "everything" was understanding the position and velocity of every single particle. There is something more than particles to the universe, you know. Consciousness, for one thing. It would have been much more interesting to look at the idea that consciousness underlies everything, and uses information to structure it. Much more comprehensive.

Are we not ready yet to accept,there is no creater but only creation.

A lower level definition of computing is that it is control of energy transfer within nanoseconds or picoseconds, from input to output of a system guided by stored energy levels.

Is something processing information or just process on its own as the nature of information?

Could information be the processing of numbers and mathematics?

If information is fundamental to existence, then isn't the ability to be impressed upon by information even more fundamental? It'd be interesting to overlap some of the ideas of these scientists with Alfred Whitehead's concept of "prehension". Information only informs if there is something experiencing it. Focusing on the information seems to be missing the forest for the trees. Edit: seems like the German scientist towards the end addresses this. I like this guy.

Consciousness seems much more fundamental than the information that appears within consciousness.

Information is a aide, but potency is the cause of anything being created information in itself isn't enough.

25:31 simulating whole universes will be possible on quantum computers someday imo. Quantum computers rn can do trillions of calculations, I think the question is more software directing the quantum computer to be realistic. Rn with normal computers we have AI synthesizing past information rapidly to make predictive models and they're only getting better and better, you also have unreal engine 5 which looks absolutely mind-blowingly realistic. I think we're heading towards Star Trek like holo decks and AI like Data from Star trek predicting exactly what will happen next.

I hope there will be something scary in episode 1408

Does the processing of numbers and mathematics lead to information for energy and mass?

Boils down to can we weigh information.

Information is something only consciousness can comprehend and give meaning to . There could also be a non- conscious form of information processing that does not involve consciousness, matter, space or time but there is no way to prove it other than to witness it's results.

Consciousness could be processing numbers and mathematics into information.

So every elementary particle is a carrier of information. 👽

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DEFINITION...instead of using the word INFORMATION we should use DATA.. A single element is inert, is a DATUM and needs another DATUM to create a relationship The

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To know the Universe, you must drill down to it smallest parts, far smaller then atoms and muons, etc. Information at thislevel hasn't been locally imprinted unless by an Observer like Us. This is how we individually and collectively create a reality we can work with. Watch Don Hoffman as well! At the smallest level, there is no spin, no computations, just pure energy.

So even food is information!

I guess in cosmos the happening of events of any order and type is the source of information. to put it any sub-part of cosmos provides information but information itself cannot create cosmos

Maybe we're getting closer to the truth. But there are always new questions. The truth is as big as the universe. When people learn, they travel in it. ...much faster than the speed of light.

Does the information know it's information? If not, how would information know how to cause anything?

God damn Right

Information might be able to create elements of consciousness, such as awareness and language, maybe even choice, on level of organism or sub-orgamism; not as likely for consciousness on grand scale or free will.

In Vedant , one of SANATANI philosophy , fundamental reality is called as Sat i.e existence (fundamental building block); chitta l.e knowledge (information); & Anand (bliss) . All these three r one and same thing.

NO ONE EXCEPT THE ONE.

could information be consciousness

Perhaps the universe isn’t like a computer, but maybe a computer is like the universe.

Information created the cosmos and the cosmos exudes information.

don't mess with my circles! - r.q. medes

Information doesn't have mass. There's infinite information within a single atom. Information merely enables the perception of mass through sensory filters which are infinitesimally small representational slices of the amount of information that's actually there in objective reality.

Does processing of information develop energy and mass?

Kinda similar to a turing test the logic here I guess. Like with numbers it is hard to separate abstract representations from realized form. For example what is the difference between the number one existing and one actual thing existing in the world?

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Good stuff.. IF it's true that our universe is a computer simulation, there would be a finite number of localized clock cycles.. is it possible this could suggest an underlying cause of time dilation? To SIMULATE a spaceship approaching the speed of light, other functions of the local simulation must slow down, like TIME..?? I'm sure someone can punch holes in that..

It's difficult to disentangle the idea of information being fundamental vs. information simply being useful to describe reality. To me, what would be interesting is to know how many fundamentally different things are fundamental to reality. Is reality is one fundamental thing like information that is merely interacting with itself, or is it different things interacting? For instance, are the laws of physics, physical stuff itself and consciousness three fundamentally different things, or all the same thing just 'shaped' and existing in different ways? Consciousness itself is one thing that appears to be completely indistinguishable from simulation. If I had a computer that perfectly simulated a human brain and had perfectly simulated stimulation of that brain (inputs), in theory, it would be as conscious as a real brain. And I think this coincides with the information theory of consciousness. This is evidence for the idea that consciousness is fundamental and not emergent. Whether that leads directly to panpsychism I'm not entirely sure.

Yes. we are light.

once activated it's whatever you make it

Please interview Nassim Harrimein, his theory of t 'whole.... universe' is so clear & understandable, He is a very interesting physicist... So enjoyable, entertaining, so informative.

Could be something / someone uses information to form the universe and reality, whether time or God or consciousness or whatever else may be doing it?

The only question now is, how do we level up?

Wow

I agree with Mr Carroll

Suggesting Tom Campbell's My Big TOE.