My 40oz Hydro Flask weight 17+ Oz, that’s enough that I opt for nalgene when carrying additional water for cycling. When hiking I’d rather just hand carry the hydro.
I have both Nalgene and stainless steel bottles with stainless steel nesting cups. I also have some Nalgene canteens with stainless steel cup and stove. Can’t go wrong with any of them.
Carry one of each. Dirty water in stainless, for later boiling or iodine. Clean water in Nalgene. Easy to keep an eye on what is left. But honestly, on a long term hike I’m using a water filter and bladder. Stainless container again, is for boiling but mostly for food.
I live in Minnesota so I have filtered a lot of water. I never really carry water with me because I know no matter where I go there will be a lake, pond, river, or stream along the way. If I ever go anywhere where I'm not sure how I will get my water carrying both the Stainless and Nalgene is a great idea.
i have my canteen ( full kit) in ss, on my belt. a bladder ( 3 qt) on my back, if i need more water then yes i would go plastic on the pack. bladder and pack, water is used first. as if i had to dump and run. the pack would be just gone. and my belt water would be full. ( not a hiker, but in the state reserve). i also have water tabs on the belt. but filters are in the pack.
Another good video... keep up the good work... only thing you didn’t mention that might be an issue for some people is the price difference between the two... you can buy like 3 Nalgene bottles to 1 stainless in some instances 👍
Stainless is definitely more expensive. I tried to focus on the pros and cons of the bottles themselves because I know there are people that think one is more superior to the other. I hear that one is worth the money where the other is cheap for a reason "you get what you pay for". Price aside I still don't think one is much better than the other. It all comes down to personal preference.
Double insulated stainless steel Yeah it’s heavier, no you can’t boil water in it, but to have ice cold water all day on a hot day (or hot coffee on a cold day) is worth any weight penalty IMHO Cheers
That is why I filter water instead of boiling it. I like having a nice cold drink. I have a thermos that is stainless steel. I got it at WalMart and I really enjoy using it for cooking and keep things hot. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LuBZfWR5p1o.html
I think for camping if you know ur gonna be boiling ur water to clean it, the steel bottle is better because if the water is hot or warm it can go in the bottle and be ok. Also if you want to put hot tea in your bottle it will probably do better in the metal. But when i go on walks outside i just carry a plastic bottle cuz theyre lighter
I originally started with a Nalgene and it got damaged while on a 50 mile hike. Luckily I had an extra Gatorade bottle with me. I have since switched to stainless (pathfinder) but, I still carry that same old Gatorade bottle. It became kind of a good luck charm. Thanks for the video
Gatorade bottles are really heavy-duty. I feel like not enough people talk about how much more durable Gatorade bottles are compared to every other disposable bottle out there. I also like that the Gatorade bottles have a wide mouth which makes filling them easier than other bottles as well.
I know Nalgene's are BPA free, but I do wonder about chemical leeching or micro plastics over the long term with plastic water bottles. I usually carry a pathfinder steel bottle, and a hydration pack if there's no water to filter in the area I'm at.
How do you like the Pathfinder water bottle? I have been using mine for years and it's still holding up really well. I remember when I first got it I was worried about it rusting but it's been fairly easy keeping it dry.
The only difference for me is if you pour boiling water in my plastic Nalgene and then drink later it tastes nasty. It is a BPA free bottle but plastics are still leaching off of the bottle.
I get a metal taste from my stainless steel water bottle. That I got at Pathfinder. Ya I do not like it. So I now want plastic . Or I'm going back to old school U S MILITARY canteen and cup and mind well carry the mess kit too . Bomb proof. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
Stainless steel gorilla proof Every time. When I have a open fire I will have both parts of the set boiling water to save time and fuel. Ultra light is ok when your close help and its great gear! l but when your life depends on it for long-term , Gorilla proof or Possibly fragile ? think about it? Pick wisely for your intended use, just get out doors and enjoy.
I think the nalgene bottles are tougher than you think....made of a plastic close to lexan...which means it won't crack or break. It will flex scratch and ding...but not break...
@@newageselfreliance just heard a couple on your post in MOTPM...I always thought they were tougher than that....I've dropped mine lots of times....scratches and dings but never broke one....
The steel bottles are more rugged. No question. They are expensive though. I have broken two Nalgene in freezing conditions. Water froze overnight and cracked the bottles. I was really upset obviously. Have switched out the plastic. I use a plastic one for my MSR water filter so I can see how much I have pumped.
I have both, like you said, guess it just depends on the situation. Good to know that there isn't that much weight difference, I don't have a scale. I usually bring stainless steel with me, if I'm worried about durability and cold temperatures. Great advice Kory.
There are a lot of horror stories of Nalgene bottles cracking in the cold. I try to plan my trip and bring whichever is going to make the trip easier. Sometimes knowing I have a backup cooking pot is my best option, sometimes being able to filter exactly 16oz of water to makes my meals taste better is the best option. It all depends on the trip.
A very good option. I always worry about smoothing or breaking a Smart water bottle. I'm not always the most careful with my pack and smooshing my water bottle could and probably would happen.
Good Video and good subject. Personally what I carry is determined by where I am. If I am somewhere hot then I carry a small Water Bottle as well as several Water Bags. (Here in Florida I carry two 6 Liter Water Bags in my Pack.) Up north I don't carry anywhere near as much Water. The Water Bags are separated and one if for Filtered Water while the other is for "Dirty" Water. As for the Water Bottles I carry whatever is cheaper at the time. I don't use Water Bottles to Boil Water in, I have my Cook Kit for that.
I use the Cnoc Vecto bags for filtering water. I never was a big fan of water bladders but the water bags are much easier to use and carry. I live in Minnesota so it is hard to find a spot that doesn't have fresh water within walking distance.
I thought ss bottles were all 300 series ss, which be rustproof. Hearing that you had one rust i concerning. Makes me wonder how inert the ss really is.
There are different types of 300 Stainless Steel. So 316 is more "rustproof" than something like a 304. All metal can rust if not taken care of. Putting any SS container away wet can lead to not-so-desirable outcomes. You also have to take into consideration what the weld is made of. If it's one pressed piece it is all the same metal. However, if two halves are welded together, the weld could lead to rusting or pitting. All in all, if you buy a quality container and take good care of it, it should last a lifetime.
@newageselfreliance My concern was more about health. I'm looking to get away from plastics. Stainless would seem like a safe option because if it doesn't react to the environment (water) , then it stands to reason that none of the metal is goo g down the gullet. But if it's rusting, that would indicate that possibly some of the metal will be consumed. Either way, I do appreciate your response. This was the first vid of yours I had watched and it was very good. Look forward to checking out more of your stuff.
@@ronfox5519 When you drink from a metal container you do taste the metal. I don't know if that means I'm drinking metal, but it does mean that there is something about the metal that is making the water taste different.
I use My military canteens and the cups that go with them. and only 1 kleen kanteen stainless for back up. Plastic lighter for humping through the woods
I started out with a 40oz ss-bottle & nesting cup. Then the summer came and I needed more water. So I bought a befree waterfilter. Since I live in moderate climate, with lots of water, I realized I can get enough water 'in the wild', with just a little thought and planning... Winter is comming, I have no idea what I will be carrying in spring😀
I live in Minnesota, home of 10,000 lakes. I filter ALL of my water. It is rare to be in an area that isn't walking distance to the water of some kind. Most of the time I only carry an empty bottle because I know no matter where I go there will be water. It actually saves me a ton of weight.
What I want to know is about the heat conductivity and how long each bottle will keep water hot. If I'm using a bottle as a hot water bottle in a sleeping bag or enclosed space, which bottle will keep me warmer longer? I suppose I'll have to test myself. I'll also test a rubber hot water bottle.
Nalgene are tough water bottles. There are definite advantages each has over the other. I think when it all comes down to it, personal preference is the only thing that would make someone choose one over the other.
A 1L Nalgene with an On-the-go flip top and titanium nesting cup is so much more versatile for me since I measure water for freeze dried meals on the trail. It's also nice to see how much water I have consumed (track hydration).
thanks to age and pill pushing Drs, one or more of them make me very thirsty. i try to put down at least a gallon a day. if not then my lips dry out. and other things just do move along. and that is just a normal day at home.
Good video. I Like the narrow mouth nalgene to drink out of with a toaks 750 mil pot but I also carry a pathfinder 32 oz bottle. just in case. The pathfinder is part of the truck emergency kit.
I used to use nalgene bottles, but always had to buy splash guards. If I didn't finish whatever I was drinking and then forgot to empty and clean it out, it sometimes resulted in me having to throw away the bottle. I switched to using ss bottles, and they can be soaked in vinegar. They aren't porous like plastic is.
Has anyone actually broken a Nalgene bottle? I've had one for a couple years, and I use it every day. I've dropped it so many times in a variety of conditions, including on top of concrete from has high as 6 ft multiple times on accident. My Nalgene bottle has the scratches to show for it. An interesting video that you could do is a destruction or torture test video comparing a Smart water bottle (favored by many ultralight backpackers), a Nalgene bottle, and a few different stainless steel water bottles to see the pros and cons of each more fully displayed and tested. Some parameters of testing could be drop tests, freeze tests, boiling water tests, longevity of storing water, price vs weight comparison, etc. For instance, I know a Nalgene water bottle can hold up to boiling water being poured into it, but a Smart water bottle won't, which is why I am willing to endure the extra weight of a Nalgene water bottle over the Smart water bottle. Also, since you don't regularly boil water in your stainless steel water bottle, but use a nesting cup instead, I would say that you negate the advantages of stainless steel. Thanks for your content. This was informative and nice to hear different perspective.
I have seen Nalgene bottles crack but even so they didn't leak. It was more of a fracture on the inside of the bottle than a crack that went all the way through. The torture test would be a good idea I just don't want to spend the money to wreck a bunch of bottles lol. I'm really glad you enjoy the video. I appreciate your support.
I've been using the Polar Muck Insulated water bottles for my bike and hiking trips. They keep the water cool enough for summer excursions. I don't boil water in any of my bottles that are used for drinking. I use the nesting cup, pot or canteen cups for that. I also, have a Nalgene Canteen used with an original GI SS cup my cousin used while in the Army for 20+ years. It still looks new after cleaning the years of soot off of it. I recently ordered a Titanium canteen cook set that I am looking forward to adding to my Bushcraft Satchel for longer trips. I have a Katadyn Combi water filtration system and a Sawyer Mini for emergency use. I keep aqua tabs in my kits as well. I am usually adding electrolytes to my water more than anything. I am usually near a fresh source and keep a valve wrench for city and rural area's. I use sodium hypoclorite for additional disinfection.
I always have a Nalgene bottle with a Mil-Tec nesting cup with me. I don't like soot in my nesting cup. On my belt i have a half liter stainless steel bottle, never cooked in it. I have arthritis and dropped my Nalgene often they never broke or cracked. If your bottle gets dirty use a baby bottle cleaning tablet or a dental one it nearly clears everything out. If you use the dental one make sure you rinse out the bottle a couple of times.
The only issue I have seen with the Nalgene is when they get really hot or really cold. For the most part, they are super durable. I don't cook with my bottles either that is what the nesting cup is for.
@@newageselfreliance the only one i ever lost to damage was run over by a Wiesel(tracked vehicle). They are very good and inexpensive. My wife doesn't like the narrow mouth it is hard to clean she says, i just stick a bottle brush in we used to use on children's bottles.
I didn't mention the price. The price margin when it comes to water bottles is so big I just left it out. You can go to the gas station, get a free water bottle with a fountain drink, and then get 99cent refills. You can also find Stainless Steel water bottles at different events and get them dirt cheap because companies use them for advertising. A good quality Stainless Steel water bottle is going to cost more than a Nalgene but you can find cheaper options.
Valid points! I feel like it's going to depend on the situation you're going to be in. Myself, I like to take a stainless Pathfinder bottle and a nalgene most of the time. Have a good weekend!
Nice video, thanks :) I currently have Nalgene plastic bottle, but i am considering switching to ss mainly due to 2 things: 1. Sometimes the water in my plastic nalgene bottle, can pick up a plasticy taste. Not always, but sometimes. 2. i can scold the ss one to thoroughly clean it, if necessary
The Stainless Steel water bottle is going to have a Stainless Steel flavor to the water. It is nice to boil water and "clean" you bottle but just know you will taste the SS.
@@newageselfreliance All I need is some twigs & I Have Me A Coffee In No time flat ! This Canteen set came from a fellow U-Tuber in Kentucky, Complete with a Custom Cover ! The side pockets hold my Alc. stove & Alcohol Sweet Set-Up !
The top line on my DZO Cup reads 24oz or 710ml. When I place a Nalgene bottle inside the top lip of the nesting cup is touching the 700ml line on the Nalgene bottle itself. amzn.to/3gohSCU
Sounds like the best of everything. Do you have the 320z bottle with the narrow bottom? I've seen them online and I'm always worried they might be to top heavy. Is your sturdy when you set it down or does it often tip over?
Most of them are Pathfinder Nesting cups like the one that comes with the water bottle set ( amzn.to/3ByWzaK ) but my new favorite is a DZO brand ( amzn.to/2V5lfXi )
Does Nalgene still make SS bottles? The last one I saw had a weird taper at the bottom so I could fit into a cup holder. I think I would knock it over all the time.
@@newageselfreliance Nalgene has SS bottles on Ebay and Amazon. 32oz and 38oz. A little heavy for a single wall bottle. Unlike the Tritan bottles, the SS bottles are made in China.
Wolf Pack Woodcraft I drive a truck I’ve seen snow up there so tall only way you new there was a car there was the radio antenna was stuck up a couple feet above the snow
Nalgene makes a 38oz stainless steel bottle. I hear a lot of really good things about it but I've never seen one. I like having 32oz bottles because most chemical treatment tabs filter 32oz of water. So one full tab can filter one full bottle. It is easy to measure and remember.
If you drop the plastic bottle than you put a rock in fire and then role it out and use hot rock to seal the crack on the bottle... Simple as that🤷♂️😁
@@newageselfreliance 🤣you must slide very gently and quick and NOT press rock on bottle like hulk... Important is very thin layer glued plastic(from heat) together... If you still dont understand please tell me😉
So is the rock cool enough to pick up with a gloved hand or do you need to get it hotter and use tongs to hold the rock? I have cooked steaks on a hot rock. The rocks can get Super hot really quickly depending on how big or how long the fire has been burning. This may be one of those things that are easier to learn by trial and error and actually get the feel for.
What are some of the chemical concerns of plastic? I know the water bottles are BPA-free, but I hear a lot of talk about how there are other reasons plastics can be bad for you. However, no one ever tells me what they are.
Don't use either. I have started using the CNOC 42mm/2L container with my befree filter system. Easy to fill and filter and I just filter into a smart water bottle. Thanks for the video.
I don't like using Smart water bottles because I'm always scared of smooshing and breaking them. One leak could really change the whole mood of a trip. I use the Cnoc Vecto for filtering and I love that water bag.
I take the hiker approach and just carry two plastic bottles, cheap and durable. They also work with the water filters and i dont need to carry a water bag, also saves weight. Awesome channel gave you a sub.
I tried using a smart water bottle but I like having clean water in multiple containers. The bags are easier to squeeze into cooking pots and other bottles and I know that my bottles always have clean water in them. There is no worry of forgetting to attach the filter or the filter itself leaking.
Stainless steal or titanium is best because we can boil in it. You nailed it. Oh by the way soak some Dawn dish soap on that fire cooked bottle and it should take that black off easily. I haven’t looked but is there a nice large titanium water bottle like the pathfinder? Oh I like the plastic in the stainless steel cups! Awesome! I haven’t used this shape, I use very large containers as I explore using my quad. I do like this option for the times I need to pack smaller for day trips.
Keiths makes all kinds of Ti camping gear. Here is a water bottle if you are interested amzn.to/2MVyJhS Ti is so expensive. If you really want to give it a try I would recommend the Keiths Cook Set amzn.to/2BZdeX3 It is a bit smaller and the pan can only be used for a single egg or burger but it is a good set for the price.
The issue I have with the Nalgene Stainless Steel water bottle is the narrow bottom. I wish they would have kept them the exact same shape as the plastic ones.
@@newageselfreliance After browsing Nalgene's seemingly endless product line, I phoned them to order 2 ss bottles AND emphesised I wanted the straight bottomed type, not the tapered kind. What I wanted was exactly what I rec'd. Mind you, it was 2 years and some months ago. Try ringing customer service and check. Thanks kindly for the response!
@@newageselfreliance By the by, I do also have several of the plastic bottles as well. The most important reason for me in buying the plastic bottles is they are bpa free.
If a person had to be on the run alone and no home to go to, the stainless steel container is the best long term choice. Other than that I don't think it matters.
I've gone back and forth on which would be better long term. The Stainless Steel will hold up to more abuse. However, the Nalgene bottle takes less to keep maintained. You don't have to worry about the Plastic rusting on the inside or leaving it in a wet area. I could hide the Nalgene in a mud puddle and still come back to drinkable water. I still don't know which one I would rather have to be honest.
There are different grades of stainless steel. From your gal, it sounds like some grade will rust. I think "Food grade" and "Surgical Steel" will not rust. In any case I would rather periodically have to use some sand or pebbles for the rust and not always have to worry about breakage. The debate goes on. lol
