Jake: comes to a podcast on his biggest fight week, whilst having numerous allegations and other topics of discussion Mike: *so what do you think about ME?*
@Boobie Baabie its dumb to speculate because I dont watch this shit much but he does talk jus like this other dude I knew who was always on amphetamines and lying about it. I'm a former addict as well
People get hurt if it holds truth lol now i know everyone hates mike but if banks mentioned a celeb and mike called him a dickrider than im sure they would laugh lol logan hates that friendship which is why he was trying to drag that almost 40 year old man to puerto rico lol i know you guys think mike is shady but logan likes to keep mike around him shady ppl hang out with shady ppl they all shady
IKR, everyone called him immature for saying the truth. smh. But that's what happens when the world hates you. Everything you do is "evil" even when it's brutally honest at most.
This is one of the big differences I see between Jake and Logan Logan is alot more forgiving. Not saying he's easy to take advantage of but if you mess up, he understands. Jake is not like that. Jake doesn't give second chances, and if you mess up ONCE, he cuts you off permanently. Not saying that either viewpoint is bad or good. Just saying what I see.
i mean, I'd forgive someone ab the same thing once, but if its repetitive it's not ok, mike has done this to logan more than once. That's why Logan should cut him out of his life, plus he's annoying af and thinks he knows everything when in reality he is really immature.
@@gabrielsalazzar_ so he makes banter or makes a comment because he actually thought it was funny on multiple occasions means logan should cut out his good friend from his life? He is able to talk things out with others because they deem what he did was wrong is immature? So u rather have a friend that u just cut off completely because he banters you and you wouldn't talk it out with the person first to see if they will apologize? And if he is immature why is he able to apologise for his mistakes when called out for when jake isn't able to? I rather logan cut jake off from his life because he seems to act better/be more mature and sensible without jake. Or he can call jake out for Jake's wrongdoings as a brother.
@@hungrymad5199 That's not being a psychopath. I'm the same way. It's like being cheated on. If someone does something once, usually they'll do it again. So why set yourself up? Once again, not sayin either viewpoint is bad, but it boils down to preference. And you really don't understand what a psychopath is, neither are you qualified to diagnose others my friend.
Yeah but I’m not sure if Logan will forgive this one, and rightfully so if he chooses. Not saying he’ll end his friendship with Mike, but def holds him in a different light right now.
I’m not a fan of jake at all, but he’s definitely just looking out for his brother and Mike does seem snakey! and a man in his 30s shouldn’t be chatting shit about his so called best friend
Mike’s downplaying the situation cause dude knows he’s wrong. Look at what he’s saying, shit sounds selfish. Shit like that can hurt cause Logan obviously trusted him.
Imo the comment he made on that podcast that made Logan mad was an overreaction. Same with the stupid shrimp stuff. Seriously he literally said he can sometimes dicksuck celebrities. Wow!! That’s sooo disrespectful. Buncha babies. Get over it
Don’t bite the hand that feeds you. I loved Mike until this but recently I’ve been seeing this side that’s really coming out. He genuinely thinks that him and Logan are equals. Logan the kid who has given Mike everything a girlfriend a career and Mike who has given Logan support. Mike definitely has other intentions in mind. And Logan would be right not to trust him especially because he does this shit quite often. Leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.
He invited males onto a lie detector to ask them about whether they’ve fantasized about fking his “friend” Mike’s lady..wouldn’t call that respectable. Y’all just see what you wanna see bc you’re fans of his and cannot judge objectively and or critique him fairly just as you do Mike 🤷🏾♀️
Mike claims to know Logan so well yet he doesn’t know what buttons he can and cannot push in their “friendship”.. Logan finally sees this and learned a valuable lesson about who his true friends are. George is a great one with very respectable morals, keep him around
They did it during Bens podcast too. But this time it’s because the subject was about Mike so of course he talked a lot. He was trying is hardest defend himself
Logan is the same person he always was, he is just aware he has to pretend otherwise now, he has almost blew it too many times, however, when he is with his brother, you still see that nasty side of his reappear. Would much rather listen to George and Mike talk shit with each other. Sooner Mike gets away from this family the better. Same for George to be fair, always reminds me of that Evan crying episode... The Paul's are BEYOND toxic.
This is that episode where everyone realise and lowkey confronts Mike about how annoying he is. And God!! "Before you say let me just say one last thing" there is nothing more annoying than hearing him saying this.
What’s that saying? Never believe anything someone says before the word “but”... Listen to Mike squirm out of everything, it’s the same formula. “ I see your point ... but”
Well he just thinks what he has to say is the most important thing that could be said. Thats why he interjects.. like shut up what I'm about to say is better anyway. I know this whole entertainment space is different.. but Mike is very replaceable... he's deluded if he thinks he's special. Just another big mouth who never shuts up
respect to jake, few people these days have the balls to address such things straight on without batting an eye and not being offensive at the same time. Nowadays, everyone is too afraid of what someone might think about them. Refreshing to see.
Even on the inside, people often have more than one self and each of those selves pay attention and nurture a different “truth” or reality. It’s how you can be confident one day about a certain task and crumble thinking you’ll never do anything the next.
@@uncleiroh4650 Ohh Hell nah. Wish I hadn't seen this comment. Now my brain's f up. Thinking what the actual truth is. Am I living in a lie? Whut? Sh*t dude.
I love how once Logan started to realize Mike has fucked up and Jake was always right about him he started to distance himself from him he immediately got back to the close bond he's got with Jake I honestly felt like Mike in a way distanced Logan from his brother. Now they're always together and work through their issues.
The whole time Logan is speaking mike is thinking how he’s gonna manipulate the situation and what he’s going to say to make the situation better IN HIS FAVOUR.
I gotta say, this made me respect the logan brothers more. Having Jake there grounded Logan so Mike couldnt just charm and bs his way out of the convo. 🤷🏻♀️
Jake Paul's observation is spot on. At the end of the day, Mike got a lucky break and is playing the game and chasing the bag. Don't blame him tbh, most people would do the same, even if it means being slightly fake at times.
Jake has money because logan made a vine and instead of going good with the money he starts acting a fool in public for clout ..talking ish about people wives and shit ...jake literally did nothing to earn his money besides being the little brother of that vine kid...kids a str8 clown ..
@@Tdogg447 I agree with you 100%, but I still think he's right about Mike. The way Mike acts is dictated by what gives him the most money and clout. Given he was a former drug addict with no education and nothing going for him, I don't really blame him tbh, most people would do the same if in Mike's position. I do think Mike is fake, but I also understand why he acts that way
@@Tdogg447 Pretty sure Jake got on Vine first and then told Logan to start Vine as well.... Logan became the bigger of the two on Vine but Jake started it.
Keemstar has talked his **** about Logan Paul for the last 5+ years and only recently went easy on Logan after the public sentiment started to change. Of course Logan is still going to be a little salty after Mike went on that guy's podcast to say something like that
Mikes an addict. He’s an ego maniac with low self esteem. Nothing should ever leave the group but unfortunately it will and in five years he’ll write a tell all about the Paul brothers. It could be sooner just depends on when the relationship ends and how much money he’s gone through.
We've all got friends like Mike, where something they have done has really hurt us, or is very hard to get over, and they just can't seem to understand or take it seriously.
i do believe hes sorry, i just feel like sometimes you cant really find the perfect words to explain yourself, and at the same time he didnt want to be too dramatic with his apology because dramatic apologies can be too cringe-worthy, and public apologies arent as easy to make as you might think no matter how much people are used to being on camera
I'm a ride or die friend. I value my friendships. If Mike would have said something like that about me and I was his friend and partner. I would take him out of the ride or die column. Trust would be broken.
@@lorcster6694 I have had 2 ride or die friends since grade school. I am 74. I have had one from 1976. They would bury a body for me. ( and I them) I have made friends over the years and like many friendships they have come and gone. I am a very forgiving person. People are human they make mistakes. I am just being honest I know me I would forgive, but my feelings would have changed if they would have gone on a competitive podcast and disrespected me so blatantly. Just sayin.
@@milanljutic6073 he said logan lied about supporting harry styles dressing female-ish just to get support and be loved, views etc. Logan said thats not true and took that offense to heart
I think he means in that room/friendship group. Which is true. He’s clearly had issues in life considering he was a crackhead or whatever his drug of choice was. Where as Jake and Logan have had everything they’ve ever wanted since they became famous at like 10 years old. I don’t even like Mike but what he said is true.
@@richardevans8908 I’m tired of him using his drug past as a clutch to explain his douchebag behavior. Open your eyes man this mike guy is a complete fraud
Mike is a low key Narcissist who suffers from the Dunning Kruger effect, he is pretentious in acting like he is wise and humble and how always goes on about self reflection etc but really is using the opportunity to talk about himself. You couldnt have an honest conversation as he is to self absorbed and thinks his opinions are better than others but masks it with fake humbleness.
Id watch the podcasts more if Mike wasn’t there. Notice Logan and George only use the f word for emphasis , comedy, or where it’s sorta needed. For Mike it’s his favorite word. He interrupts, is a loudmouth, and just generally I can’t stand him....It gets annoying. But I love Logan lol.
@@russianvocalist5400 but Logan needed mike when he was at his lowest and EVERYONE was against him and condemned him except for MIKE. Mike gave him a chance and looked past his mistakes no matter what happens to their friendship Logan will always feel in debt to mike and you cannot take that away from mike no matter how much you hate him. He helped logan in his lowest points of life when no one was willing to give him another chance
What I learnt from this clip: Logan's wearing Sasha Banks' wrestlemania glasses and taking it to his grave. You sir have good taste and won me over lmao.
The sad thing about this is maybe Logan really does want to cut him out of his life but he knows what Mike brings to the table so it would be hard to do so. There's always some truth behind every joke so maybe he is serious behind the "business relationship"
What exactly does he bring??. I’m still new to this podcast, so maybe im missing something. If you take him out, I feel the show still continues. Just my opinion.
@@solodolo_mma3971 He brings entertainment and hes funny asf. Regardless if hes annoying sometimes or contradicts himself a lot. I wouldn't be as interested in the podcast if Mike wasnt on tbh. I'm not saying I wouldn't be watching but it wouldn't be as interesting to me. Just saying, that's just me doe.
@@solodolo_mma3971 he's a great person to have on a podcast because he able to continue the conversation and lead it into other tangents. It's also why it's easier to hate on him because he always runs his mouth when in reality the third co-host just doesn't have that same ability when there's a guest on.
Mike is not the best person but Clearly he must have done a lot for Logan behind the scenes for him to have given Mike so many opportunities and be close with him after everything.
I feel like Mike is a lot more tactical than he shows, this whole thing was him deffo pulling out of being under Logan’s wing and being known because he knows Logan. He’s moving out he wants his own name to be known first before being known as Logan Paul’s friend. Text book
i feel bad for jake and how everyone trashed on him when he first made this statement. i love that now everyone sees the horrible character mike truly is.
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lol at all the comments Mikes made that are used by little kids... "I wouldn't have been mad if you did it" "are we still talking about it" "I apologized we should be fine now"
I’ve always disliked Jakes persona but I will give him credit for the fact that he’s always seen right through Mike. He’s not inherently a bad guy, but he feels that what he went through in his past with addiction and whatnot, makes him so much wiser and validates his come up more than anyone else. This plays out with how overbearing he is in conversation since he is always cutting people off because subconsciously he feels that what he has to say is just that much more significant than what anyone else is saying. He plays the role of “I’m just happy to be here”, but he’s always chased success in a toxic way using others to boost himself. I mean it got to the point that he broke up with Lana, his views went down a couple hundred thousand then got back with her. That could be totally unrelated but it was just an observation.
We need to get him out of the podcast. He's 36, and acts like a 14 year old boy who thinks eveyfhting is a joke when he hurts someone. He's like those comments who make a offensive or racist statements, then says "it's a joke man".
Jake may be a strong kid with an ego, but at least he’s honest. This is the most adult thing Jake brought to light and talked ab, respect cuz it’s true Edit: Mike is like this because he grew up and stayed cheap
I would never forgive someone or trust a friend after making a comment like that. Especially considering it's not the first time, Logan is stupid for keeping Mike around.
Let’s not call Logan stupid I think he just has not realized it yet that it was extremely fake of Micheal to say that, if he said it publicly imagine what he says when the podcast was turned off, Hopefully he doesn’t say anything
Mike reminds me of Xpac from WWE, both in the face and also in the fact that he probably carries his more famous friend's luggage just so he has a seat at the table.
Idk what Mike has done for Logan behind the scenes but it must be one hell of a reason for Logan to have done so much for him even after their fall outs!
End of it all Mike needs to realise that he needs Logan for his career to continue to rise where as Logan definitely doesn’t need Mikes help... If one of my friends done something like that to me PUBLICLY then I’d end the relationship
@@cityboydanny1758 that just proves my point more tho, Mike shouldn’t need anyone, yet he does, but if he treats Logan like shit enough then banks wouldn’t stay around. Banks isn’t dumb
The problem isn’t in Logan being mad at Mike for a joke. The problem is Mike’s comments were a reflection of how he views Logan’s character. Added to that, the audience in which he made this judgment is one that has a history of bad blood. If one of my boys had bad blood with another person, then I most definitely am not doing their podcast. Even if this was a favor to Banks, Mike should of declined and said he couldn’t out of respect to Logan and if Banks couldn’t under that, well that’s one less friend for Mike to deal with.
It looks like mike wants this to pass without really accepting he did something wrong... like he keeps trying to make it seem like it isn’t a big deal. Just because it wouldn’t insult mike doesn’t mean Logan is the same. He took it seriously and because mike doesn’t take it as seriously Logan gets even more annoyed. I could be reading super deep into it tho lmfao I mean what we see is usually what they want.
The fact that this was brought up even weeks after Mike's comments means that things are still probably tense and maybe Logan is not as close as he once was with Mike
Right, he should stop complaining. They wouldn’t have to keep talking about it if he would’ve never did it in the first place. If he doesn’t like talking about it, he needs to stop the repetitive behavior.
We have finally reached a point were jake can actually word what he is thinking properly this was one of my favorite point of the podcast Mike bringing this situation up himself was a really good thing he was actually willing to hear the feedback and not just sweep it under the rug especially with how fast paced their life is
Oh wow. That was highly fascinating. He had that great opportunity to save that unique relationship by being actually sorry and ashamed, and he fucked it up again. It was "You did bad things too"; "If I was you, I would have reacted differently, I would even congratulate you," "that to me was a little dramatic". It was like the last conversation between Michael and Fredo. But at least, Fredo admitted he was jealous. And I have to respect the fact that Jake Paul will calmly finish his idea no matter how hard Mike tries to interrupt him. And his remark was reasonable: "You're hard-working, ambitious, but you bit the hand that fed you. You don't want to admit that Logan built you. But I would not want to have a friend like you around me after what you've done." I feel Jake completely understand what is a Mike Majlak. He can explain his thought process and behaviour, and I'm sure if he tries, he can predict his next move.
It seems Mike views Logan as a business partner first and a friend second, or maybe third. He measures their friendship with numbers and he’s made it clear that his new podcast will take priority, seemingly using Logan for marketing only. He’s over exaggerated his influence on business and self improvement and under plays his flaws. I.e. pressuring his former girlfriend Lana for a three way even though she refused and even cheating on her, he doesn’t apologise, he implies things but he’s not empathetic. He’d rather move on then apologise and you can see that here. He doesn’t believe he did anything wrong but he regrets the backlash for it but still can’t understand why there is any, he thinks he should be congratulated for gaining clicks by lying about his friends, and he’d rather try and make you see it his way then buckle and see it there’s. He keeps pushing that he’s unique and different somehow, and can never really back up why besides his age (plenty of people in his position his age) and his drug addiction (every RU-vidr in LA has a drug scandal) Overall I’d say he has narcissistic tendencies, he believes he’s special beyond all reason and has tendencies to quantify things with money rather than what it means to him or other’s emotionally
@@papapara2916 u dumb dawg, look at how many people have left his life. ALL of team 10 ended up leaving him, he had like 6 different girlfriends in like a span of 4 years. So your telling me he's loyal. Theres obvious issues jake has for this many people to switch up on him
