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As simple as that!

Christ be with you Sorry that is false Faith cannot be alone it must have love (1 Cor 13:2) It is Love that produces our works (John 14:21-24) It is those who obey Christ who will recieve eternal life (Heb 5:9) God bless you

@@MrKev1664 agreed. Obedience to Christ is how I keep on the narrow road. I love Christ and because I love Him I obey Him. Yes love is the greatest

@@jessyjonas4988 so at the end of the day you're saying you're saved by works because if you believe obedience is works what did you just profess there. I'm going to tell you this right now you have to do things to be saved.

@@MrKev1664 well it was never faith alone because the Bible even professes it was never faith alone.

Well said.

Pretty much

Indeed! Amen

Christ be with you and what happens if you do not bear fruit God bless you

@@MrKev1664 Ezekiel 36:25 I will also sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean. I will cleanse you from all your impurities and all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will remove your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes and to carefully observe My ordinances. (God makes sure that his children bear fruit).

Hebrews was written to the Hebrews, are you a Hebrew?

Read Hebrews 8:8. God will give a new covenant to the house of Israel and the house of Judah. These men will come to know Galatians 1:6-9.

Christ be with you Christ forgives our past sins (rom 3:25) God bless you

@@MrKev1664 you cannot go back into a life of habitual hypocritical unrepentant sin or you would end up in the lake of fire. It's called backsliding.

Christ be be with you *you say* If you are counting on your works.....then let me know HOW MUCH WORK WILL IT TAKE TO PLEASE GOD ‼️ *response* this is not how scripture tells us it works we cannot do some works and then turn to sin (Matt 7:21-27) We must endure to the end (Matt 24:12-14) we must not defile the garment of righteousness cleansed in Christ blood or be blotted out of the book of life (Rev 3:1-6) *you say* MY SALVATION IS BY FAITH ALONE......LIKE THE MAN ON THE CROSS THAT HAD NO WORKS TO FOLLOW HIS FAITH....... *response* then you are not Christian. St James tells us justification is not be faith alone (James 2:24) St Paul tells us faith must uphold the Law (Rom 3:31) and tells us it is those who keep the law who will be justified (rom 2:13) He tells us we mock God if we think we have eternal life and do not obey the Law of Christ, walk in the Spirit and do good works (Gal 6:1-10) St John tells us those who believe in the Son God , who are Gods Children will love God and Keep his commandments. Jesus himself says those who believe in him will do his works. *you say* I ABSOLUTELY LOVE DISCUSSIONS LIKE THIS..... BODY OF CHRIST LET US CONTINUE TO STUDY TO SHOW OURSELVES APPROVED TO GOD...... SO GLAD HE KNOWS OUR HEARTS ‼️‼️‼️ *response* those who love Christ keep his teaching and commandments and he and his Father will abide in them. those who do not do not keep them. Come to Christ

James 2:24 "Ye see, then, that out of works is man declared righteous, and not out of faith only." Young's literal translation. Sorry dude, apparently God requires works in order to be saved. You may need to get out of your recliner and help some widows and orphans. Amazing how people cherry pick what they like from the scriptures. 😆

Thank brother for that comment, in fact Jesus warned us about the false prophets so we will know who are bearing fruits and who are not!! Mathew 7:15-20 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? 17 So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So then, you will know them by their fruits.

@@antonioaguinaldo8953 Christ be with you Yes faith alone and Once saved Always saved produce the fruit Apathy not obedience. Faith must have Love (1 Cor 13:2) and it is love that produces obedience to God (John 14:21-24) Fait must establish the Law (Rom 3:31) God bless you

​@@antonioaguinaldo8953 the fruit mean in this verse is false gospel

Right. James (although he quotes Genesis 15:6) isn't talking about the same quality of faith. James is talking about faith in the mere existence of God. "Ye believe in one God, ye do well. The devils also believe and tremble." This is not the kind of faith that Paul is talking about but James uses it to debunk Paul's message, mission and ministry. Genesis 15:6 (in the Septuagint) says it like Paul quotes it in Romans 4. "Abraham believed God and it was counted to him for righteousness." The later Masoretic Text says, "Abraham believed in YHWH and it was counted to him for righteousness". It's not belief IN God that counts and everybody acknowledges that. Abraham believed what God had promised him and that's why he was justified. It had nothing to do with what Abraham was doing for God now or in the future. This is why James' argument is so bogus. Abraham was justified because he believed God's promise - NOT BECAUSE HE BELIEVED GOD EXISTED. That's ludicrous. Nobody has EVER taught that but that's the strawman that James is debunking. Look, the contradiction looks like a contradiction because it IS A CONTRADICTION! James designed it to be a polemic against the doctrine of justification by faith only.

@@GizmoFromPizmo MERRY CHRISTMAS

yep, they contradict

But you cannot say that, because if I have faith in God and life as a person in this world as Rom 1:28-32, 2 Ti 3:2; , Ef 5:2-5 and others versicules say we can be salved, we need to live our lifes as God Says and we don't do that because we want to get his salvation, we do that because we love God and our Brother (1 John 5:2) and thats means WE HAVE to do things. So we need have faith in Yeshua and keep his Commandments Rev 12:12, 14:12; 22:14.

Christ be with you No eternal life without good works Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption; but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. And let us not grow weary in well-doing, for in due season we shall reap, if we do not lose heart. (Gal 6:7-9) God bless you

@ShetheOvercomer Christ be with you sounds like those Catholics are onto something God bless you

EXACTLY

Christ be with you and what do you think the Gospel is? God bless you

@@MrKev1664 i believe everyone must agree that it's a good & ultimate news, confirming Jesus Christ who the apostles taught & died for is God the savior

@@deerodeo7013 Christ be with you then how are these mem knight for the Gospel. Jesus did not teach faith alone. From that time Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised. And Peter took him and began to rebuke him, saying, “God forbid, Lord! This shall never happen to you.” 23 But he turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me; for you are not on the side of God, but of men.” Then Jesus told his disciples, “If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. 26 For what will it profit a man, if he gains the whole world and forfeits his life?[ Or what shall a man give in return for his life? For the Son of man is to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay every man for what he has done. (Matt 16:21-27) faith alone does not teach that we must pick up our crosses and follow Christ to enter the ressurection God bless you

Christ be with you they are proof that fath is not alone it has Love, faith alone is a false doctrine. without good works we will not receive eternal life (gal 6:7-9) God bless you

It's God's grace through our faith that saves us. Without that grace, we cannot even be given the measure of faith with which to believe in Salvation. This used to be preached and taught so much more intently when I was first a Christian over 40 years ago. We were consistently reminded of this very important fact, and I have to wonder what happened. Martin Luther was doing the best he could during the time he had with which to reform things. He based his findings about Sola Fide on the verse in Habakkuk that says "the just shall live by faith". But we need to understand who the "just" are: Those who have been saved by the grace of God, and are continuing to "grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 2 Peter 3:18 It's those who have received "justification". "For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves. It is the gift of God; not of works, lest any man should boast." Eph 2:8,9 True saving faith through God's grace will produce a godly life, the continuation of the ministry of Jesus in the believer's life, and His mission in this world. That is what proves a person has been truly converted, but it is not what saves them. If it was, we could have just stayed under the old covenant because that's how it operated. We are saved by grace "through" faith, which will produce the right life and actions; it will produce good fruit which is love for one another, the sharing with and caring for one another which was being practiced in the earliest church as recorded in the Book of Acts. "You shall know them by their fruit," Matt 7:15 Whom shall you know? Those who have been saved by God's grace through the measure of faith given them by God; a measure which will continue to grow and strengthen during the person's entire life.

Somewhere along the line it's been summed up as: Grace alone, through faith alone, by Christ alone, to the glory of God alone. Grace must always come first, then if there has been a true conversion, good works will follow which give evidence to God's grace and our faith.

Read James 2:24. Non-believers perform very good works also, they have no faith though. Good works prove that you are a decent human being, that's all.

Christ be with you While Christ died for all our sins we are forgiven our past sins (rom 3:25) God bless you

@@MrKev1664, God Bless Yu 2 4 Yu are Very Ryt & Thanks 4 Yur Powerful Answer.🙏

Well said, allow our faith to be perfected through our works, leave our salvation to God seeing our most perfect faith in Him.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 praise the Lord Jesus ✝️

Yes, you’ve said it so beautifully! Praise God❤️

Christ be with you Sorry St James is condemning Faith alone St James is tell us faith alone will not save. Romans 3 and 4 are about works of the Law (Circumcision, Animal sacrifice, Cleaning Rituals, Holy day observance and dietary requirements) We see in romans 4 the examples given are the circumcision of Abraham and the forgiveness of King David without animal sacrifice. The promise you refer to given to Abraham in Gen 15:6 we are told by God himself was fulfiled because Abraham obeyed him. I will multiply your descendants as the stars of heaven, and will give to your descendants all these lands; and by your descendants all the nations of the earth shall bless themselves: because Abraham obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.” (Gen 26:4-5) the is no eternal life without obedience (Heb 5:9) God bless you

@@MrKev1664 can you ever be perfectly obedient, so that you can righteously earn your way to heaven?

@@sd6212 Christ be with you our lord says we must try Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.(Matt 5:48) however it is not about earning our way into heaven To enter heaven, since we are sinners we need forgiveness and mercy it is about entering a supernatural union of love with our God so he may abide in us and we may in him.(john 14:21-24) it is about not defiling the righteousness cleansed by Christ blood (rev 3:1-6)) if we want eternal life we will obey him. And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; (Heb 5:9) if we do not we never believed in him (luke 6:6-49) God bless you

Christ be with you what do you think it means to believe in Jesus Christ you need to interpret this statement on what Jesus tells us it means not what you think it means. “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I go to the Father.(John 14:12) St John also tells us what it means to believe (1 John 5:1-5) you will see that we have to overcome the world, we have to love God and Keep his commandments God bless you

Amen.

No.

Christ be with you almost right You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. (Matt 5:48) God bless you

Christ be with you you appear to be getting "Being saved" having your sins forgiven, with salvation Good works are a result of your love for God. (John 14:21-24) Faith is not alone (1 Cor 13:2) If you do not produce them you will not receive eternal life (Gal 6:1-10) God bless you

@@MrKev1664 Good works are a result of salvation but never the cause.

@@terminat1 Christ be with you scripture does not say that. Did you even read the verses given because it appear you think you know better than God, Receiving Gods Grace does not take works just faith and repentance (Love) but eternal life does (Gal 6:1-10) God bless you

@@MrKev1664 I think I've talked with you before. Repentance is obviously a work. Grace is 100% undeserved.

@@terminat1 Christ be with you it does not matter if repentance is a work or not. repentance does not make us deserve Gods Grace but it is necessary to receive it. Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord, (acts 3:19) God bless you

Christ be with you it is love that produces fruit (john 14:21-24, john 15:1-11) faith is not alone there is no eternal life without that fruit. God bless you

Great reply! There are 112 faith alone verses. Paul, jesus and John taught faith alone. Jesus told the woman at the well, one drink, for one moment, resulted in everlasting life. Along comes James, and contradicts them all.

Christ be with you the thing is the bible never says once that we are salvation is by faith alone that is a lie that is said over and over until it is believed. there is a difference between being saved and salvation Being saved is the forgiveness of our past sin but to have salvation, to inherit Gods kingdom we must obey Christ. this false teaching produces the fruit of apathy to God making it unnecessary to love him. But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. (2 Peter 1:9-11) faith must have love (1 Cor 13:2) God bless you

In his sight. Not ours.

@@iacoponefurio1915 yes, that why why man can't look at the amount of sanctification in a believers life and say whether or not they saved.

Yes, it's like the old saying: "Don't 'tell' me you love me, SHOW me you love me".

Christ be with you You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.(James 2:24) faith is not alone it must have love. God bless you

@@MrKev1664 so we are justified by faith + works then in your eyes?

@@Muzicboy3 Christ be with you The full story is that it is Christs Grace that Justifies us. His forgiveness for our sin make us right in not, our faith or our works We receive Gods Grace though Faith (Eph 2:8-9) that faith is not alone it upholds the Law (rom 3:31) and is is those who uphold the Law who will be justified (rom 2:12) Jesus tell us he will give believers eternal life but explains that believers are those who turn from darkness and sin to the light and do works of God (John 3:16-21) God bless you

but what does having faith in Jesus mean? Just believing something about him is true in your head, or just saying "Jesus is Lord"? Remember what he said about many who say to him "Lord, Lord did we not do all these things in your name?" They believed him to be the Lord and even did powerful things in his name but Jesus rejects them...they had "faith". Faith is much more than what the watered down version of the modern church system teaches

@@TimKollat faith means to trust Him alone

@@guy2911 I agree. Trusting in Jesus and obeying him alone and not other men or church doctrines that teach something different.

Christ be with you yes but what he did not say is the the scripture given in Gen 15:5-6 was not fullfiled until Gen 22:15-19 St James tells us this (James 2:21-24) God bless you

Repent means to change your mind.Greek -> Metanoeo or metanoia (re think, change mind, after thought) it does not have an automatic meaning to feel sorry for sins or to turn from them. In the case of salvation it means to change your mind from unbelief to belief in Jesus and the cross. The English Repent definition is very misleading.

@theservant752 The definition of repent you gave is correct. However, being saved is also being born again, and just as physical birth is the end result of a process ,so is spiritual rebirth. Repentance is incomplete if not followed by water baptism. True repentance must be demonstrated by an act of obedience, which water baptism is. When John baptized stood in the Jordan river and the people stood on its banks repenting ,he said," Bring forth fruit meet for repentance"(Matt.3:8). The Word " meet", in the original Greek, means " that which accompanies".

The thing that should follow repentance is to believe in Jesus Christ, that he came in the flesh, was crucified to death for our sins, rose again on the third day. If you believe this you are born again and saved. Bring forth fruit(doctrine) meet(that which accompanies) Repentance(change of mind) Fruit is for example doctrine of false teachers\prophets\pharisees. Matthew 7:15-20 (15) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. (16) Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? (17) Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. (18) A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. (19) Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. (20) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. ​@@robertnieten7259

Christ be with you No Faith always requires Love It cannot be alone God bless you

​@@MrKev1664 Let us not put God in the "BOX"!... who are we to decide for God whom He will give salvation?... The Thief on the Cross with Christ Jesus was guaranteed salvation by Christ Himself, with only his (Thief) genuine/truthful Faith ALONE thru God's Grace... The Thief was not Baptized, nor even have the Charity of Love (Works/Deeds)... When we initially received FAITH from God, it does not necessarily mean that we are already Truly in Love with God at once from that moment we accepted God... "True Love" develops thru our works/deeds as time goes by... FAITH Alone thru the Grace of God had opened the mind, heart, and soul of the dying Thief to believe/accept/repent his sins against God and Christ Jesus accepted him (Thief) without Baptism, without Good Works/Deeds of Charity of love... and Christ promised him with salvation at the judgment day of God Almighty... After FAITH Alone, thru God's Grace that comes first to a person, Faith alone will open our mind, heart, and soul to "TRUST by believing," followed by "acceptance and repentance" to our sins BEFORE "Baptism and Good Work/love/hope/charity begins/starts"... "Baptism" and "Good Works" are not necessarily needed/required for salvation in "some circumstances" (exemptions) like Jews/Atheist/Gentiles dying in bed, hospital, battlefield, places of accidents, and imminent death... We can still be forgiven for our sins and receive Salvation while we are still in our "last breath of life" (dying imminently) without Baptism and Good Works/Deeds (Charity of Love)... Biblically facts... No human beings would be able to believe or accept/repent or to love, nor to undergo Baptism and to do Good works... without the FAITH Alone thru God's Grace that comes first to every person... Only a low I.Q. person with low comprehension would say otherwise... We do not need the I.Q. of Einstein to understand logically and reasonably what I have written... There is a saying, "for a close mind, heart, and soul person, NO ANSWER POSSIBLE, but for an open mind, heart and soul person, NO POSSIBLE ANSWER NEEDED/REQUIRED." Facts and Truth, biblically and logically speaking... Praise and thanks be to God, in Christ Jesus... Amen.

Christ be with you there is only justified or not justified. justification is the forgiveness of a repentant sinners sins by God Grace sanctification require justification for we need to make our selves slaves to righteousness and to God God bless you

James is using the word “Justified” like it is used in Psalm 51:4 and 1 Tim 3:16. It is better understood as “vindicated” or “proven”. To say otherwise would be to create a conflict with the scriptures. God is not the author of confusion.

Christ be with you St Paul teaches it happens in Baptism Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. (rom 6:4) As does St Peter Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Act 2:38) and most importantly Jesus Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (John 3:5) you seem to thin you know better but since you didn't die for my sins I'm going to trust Jesus and his Apostles on this. Also are you suggest the Gospel you follow has no necessity to follow the teaching of Christ. that's not good Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John 9-11) that would be mocking God Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. (Gal 6:7-9) Come to Christ

Christ be with you Sorry that is not true St James is saying the at the scripture where he was given the promise (Gen 15:5-6), was not fulfilled until he obeyed God (Gen 22:15-19) It is in Baptism St Paul tells us we are born again with Christ (rom 6:3-4) it is baptism St Peter tells us we are saved (1 Peter 3:21) St Paul tells us is is those who keep the Law who are justified (Rom 2:13) Come to Christ

​@@MrKev1664 John 15:5/paraphrase... "I AM the Vine (Christ), you are the Branches (Christians), my Father is the Gardener (God), any branches attached to the Vine that does NOT BEAR (verb=Work/Deed) FRUIT (Charity of Love), the Gardener (God) will take away (remove/cut-off), and any branches attached to the Vine (Christ) that Bear (verb) FRUITS, the Gardener will prune the branches to BEAR (verb=works/deeds) more FRUITS (Charity of Love)." Therefore, even if you are already attached to the VINE (Christ) or a believer/follower, if the Branches (Christians) do not "bear fruits," the Gardener will take away (cut-off/remove). Thus, Faith (noun) without Work/Deed (verb) is a "DEAD FAITH" (James 2:17/paraphrased)... Facts and Truth, biblically speaking... Amen...

@@jvlp2046 Christ be with you I agree with that just not what you said about faith alone. God bless you

@@MrKev1664 The English word "ALONE" is not in the Bible, (just like the word Trinity, Rapture, Bible, etc.) but what ALONE truly meant was that FAITH without ANY Works/deeds inscribed/taught in the Law of Moses... By the Grace of God, we can receive FAITH in Christ (alone) "Without" any good works/deeds of/by our OWN, it is FOR FREE... But after acceptance, repentance, and baptism in the name of the Holy Trinity by our own FREEWILL... NOW, is the time to follow and obey the teaching of Christ Jesus to DO (verb) GOOD WORKS/DEED of Charity of Love... Christ said, if you LOVE me, follow and obey MY (Christ) commandments... whose commandments?... commandments of Christ and no longer the Law of Moses... for FAITH without Good Works (Charity of Love) is a "Dead Faith." ... Amen. Analogy... for example... if we like to practice Engineering in the country, one must first pass the Professional Engineer's Licensure "ALONE" without passing any Medical/Nursing Licensure to practice Engineering... same logic... I hope you understand now what ALONE truly meant... Peace be with you in Christ Jesus.....

@@jvlp2046 Christ be with you Let's look at what the scripture you ignored says. Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. (Rom 6:3-4) Notice this being born again to new life occurs in Baptism Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, (1 Peter 3:21) Notice it is through repentance in baptism we are saved. Lets look at another And Peter said to them, “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. notice that we must repent and be baptised for the forgiveness of sin. faith alone means nothing. That is what St James is saying. That despite being give the promise in Gen 15:5-6 the scripture was not fulfilled until Gen 22:9-19 on the altar Do you want to be shown, you foolish fellow, that faith apart from works is barren? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by works, and the scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness”; and he was called the friend of God. You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. (James 2:20-24) without obedience faith alone is useless Jesus told us not simply to believe but to believe and be baptised. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. (Mark 16:16) He told us to be born again Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God. (John 3:3) Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. (John 3:5) God's Grace come when we obey you appear to be trying to justify a false doctrine. God bless you

Christ be with you no eternal life without good works (Gal 6:1-10) no eternal life without avoiding the world's temptation (James 1:12-16) if you think Christ abiding in us ins not good news (John 14:21-24) then who do you follow. God bless you

@@MrKev1664 James is not talking about works being needed for justification. From your comment, it doesn't seem you understand JUSTIFICATION. Justification is a legal term.

@@carmensiekierke3579 Christ be with you *you say* James is not talking about works being needed for justification. *response* What???????? how can you come up with a statement like that. Ye see then how that by works a man is *justified*, and not by faith only. (Ja *you say* From your comment, it doesn't seem you understand JUSTIFICATION. Justification is a legal term. response sorry what is your point here God bless you

@@MrKev1664 James ( the half-brother of Jesus and leader of the Jersualem church) is talking about sanctification.....and he is talking about people who " profess" faith, but it's all empty words. When they see someone in the congregation that needs food or clothing their response is " be warm and filled." IF all you have is empty words in your life........it is verification that you have not been justified in the first place. @MrKev.........How many works do you think you have to do to be declared " not guilty" by God? Justification is being "declared not guilty."

No it doesn’t the Bible teaches faith apart from works

Yeah.... I don't think I'd take your comment seriously since you reject the doctrine of the Holy Trinity.

Christ be with you and faith alone produces apathy it falsely takes away the need to obey God and therefore love him God bless you

@@MrKev1664 agreed Faith alone produces apathy. We need to have love. When we love Him we obey Him. It removes legalism

@@jessyjonas4988 Christ be with you as long as you understand that love him means follow his teachings and keeping his commandments (John 14:21-24) its not just warm feelings God bless you

@@MrKev1664 " A new command I give to you: love one another. Ad I have loved you so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples if you love one another." John13:34-35 agreed. That I do wholeheartedly. I love Him and I love others and I love keeping His commandments.

Christ be with you People often need to be woken up if strange how he was unbiblical however. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. (James 2:24) We do need to be justified and it is not by faith alone. God bless you

Christ be with you no sanctification is a process But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. (rom 6:22) God bless you

It doesn't

Christ be with you Sorry we must obey the Law Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law. (rom 3:31) only then will we be justified For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. (rom 2:13) God bless you

Protestants just hate Christianity and need to be honest about it

Christ be with you thats a big story There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. (Gal 3:28) God bless you

Christ be with you sorry we are not saved until we are baptised, born again (rom 6:3-4) to be saved we must have faith, repent and be bapristed to receive eternal life we must obey (Heb 5:9) God bless you

@@MrKev1664 Please, try to read again my comments, it seems you have a low reading comprehension to understand what you are reading... thanks... peace be with you...

@@jvlp2046 Christ be with you Faith I’d not alone if it requires repentance and baptism. It has love that is required to obey God and do these works God bless you

​@@MrKev1664 By "Acceptance/Believe" of Christ Jesus as the Son of God/Redeemer/Savior and thru "Confession/Repentance" to our sins are "100% necessary/necessity" for Salvation (no exceptions), while "Baptism is also needed (as part of the rituals for salvation) but NOT necessary/necessity/requires in some circumstances,... when Baptism does not need (with exceptions)?... Answer... People like Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Pagans, Gentiles, "Dying in Bed/Battle/War/Hospital/Accident, Imminent Death, etc." A biblical good example is a "THIEF" on the Cross who died with Christ Jesus, before he died, he "accepted/believed" in Christ and "confessed/repented" his own sins to Christ but he was "Not Baptized," and still, Christ Jesus promised him of Salvation (the thief will be in paradise with Christ Jesus)... Facts and Truth, biblically speaking... Amen.

@@MrKev1664 Faith ALONE means by the Grace of God, FAITH is absolutely FREE (no fee) without any Work/Deed from the Law of Moses... In order to have God's Grace of Free FAITH in Christ Jesus, a person must first BELIEVE, then ACCEPTANCE and CONFESSION/REPENTANCE (100% necessarily/necessity/requirements without exception) for SALVATION... while BAPTISM and GOOD WORKS/DEEDS (Charity of Love for their neighbors/foes) is also needed, but NOT ALWAYS necessarily required with some exemption to the rule... like People who are non-believers dying from their bed, hospital, accident, war, battle, and imminent death... Example... The thief dying on the Cross with Christ Jesus... No Baptism and No Good Works/Deed (Charity of Love for their Neighbors/foes) but still Christ Jesus promised salvation to the thief... Facts and Truth, biblically speaking...

Study the doctrine of justification by faith before use biblical text out of context as proof text for your pretext. because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin. - Romans 3:20, 4:2-4, 6:14-15, 11:6; 2 Corinthians 3:7-14; Galatians 3:17, 24, 4:2-3 [Jeremiah 31:33; Hebrews 10:16] God is the Giver of Saving Faith. Acts 3:16; Ephesians 2:8-9; Philippians 1:29; Hebrews 12:2; 2 Peter 1:1.

Christ be with you in what way do these word not refute faith alone Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. (James 2:24) all these men do is try to tell a story but the words are clear. St Paul never believed faith alone And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. (1 cor 13:2) it simply a lie Most people nolonger know what faith in Jesus Chris is do you God bless you

@@MrKev1664 quoting James 2:24 out of context seems to be the only response Catholics have. You seem to forget or ignore Paul's words in Ephesian 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God"

@@HearGodsWord Christ be with you How is it out of context? Isn't this verse what is being discussed. It speak of Justification. (James 2:24) it relates it to being save (James 2:14) I don't forget St Paul's words in Eph 2:8 He does not say "faith alone", he says "faith". I have already showed you St Paul says it must faith must have love (1 Cor 13:2) We see that St Paul tells us that this is faith is worked by Love (Gal 5:6) We seem him tell us that it must establish the Law (Rom 3:31) Its the protestant trick to claim context but to provide no evidence that it is being used out of context, St John tells us Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.(1 john 3:7) But protestants run around trying to decieve. Can you even tell me what faith in Jesus Christ is? What must be believed? God bless you

@@MrKev1664 Ephesians 2:8 is very clear that we're saved by faith, so you should stop tying to add other things. James 2:24 affirms the truth Protestants beleive.

@@HearGodsWord Christ be with you No Eph 2:8-9 tells us we are saved by Grace. you seem to be having trouble reading james 2 says we are not justified by faith alone That not what any protestant I have ever heard say are you just going to make stuff up? God bless you

Much of Reformed theology can be traced back to the early church fathers. However, and more importantly, can be traced back to scripture.

@@HearGodsWord faith alone was not part of the Church Fathers’ theology. You can find some things out of context that sound like faith alone but then read the same writing in a different spot that will contradict it. Clement is a good example of this. Furthermore, the Fathers held to the sacrifice of the mass, the real physical presence of Christ in the Eucharist, and baptismal regeneration. They held monasticism in high esteem (Athanasius on St Anthony of the desert for example) as well. Where do we see them hold to TULIP? Or double predestination? Or the abolishment of free will? Maybe someone could find some little snippet here or there and I haven’t read all the Fathers but I have yet to read any of them that sound Reformed for longer than a sentence or two.

@@charliek2557 I'm comfortable that my comment is accurate enough.

@@HearGodsWord can you show me some early church father writings, teaching the same theology as what Protestant teach today ? I really can’t find anything. Everything they teach is Catholic……

@@mathewcatherine8172 that's such a generalisation that just raises a lot of questions. The reformers didn't invent anything they taught but it's fine if you don't want to believe that.

@Wayne, dispensationalism claims there are two ways of salvation: One for national Israel and one for " the church age." Wayne, how were people saved under the Mosaic Covenant?

No gymnastics here as its very simple

Except that it wasn't invented by Protestants. Much of Reformed theology can be traced back to the early church fathers.

@@HearGodsWord Peace to you who read X (I may be stating the obvious, but there is a distinction, and indeed a difference between the ancient and reformed views) Of course, all born of the Spirit Christians believe that we are justified by faith (the faithfulness of Christ), His all sufficient everything is not in question. But when comparing the fathers and the reformers and their core doctrines... Do we find... Man existing with a weakened will and dead to God (relationally)... Yes ! Agreed. Substititionary atonement - Yes ! Foreknown and predestined - Yes ! But... Totally depraved and either determined to heaven or hell... No ! (with the exception of Augustine and some of the reformers) Penal substitutionary atonement (as in the cross primarily being about the satisfaction of God's wounded honour and the exhaustion of His wrath)... No !... satisfaction bit (as the reformers interpret it) - not till Anselm of Canterbury in the 11th century... and the wrath bit - not until the 16th. In reading about the earliest views of the Atonement and how they might relate with the Reformed understanding, it's so important to read the fathers in context and by authors who belong to whatever ancient tradition that the fathers were themselves a part of (oriental, western or eastern Orthodox for example). For whatever "additions" these Communions may have accrued over the years, they still maintain and rejoice in firm Theological, Christological and Soteriological convictions of the first few centuries of their existence. Though there are a couple of quotes within the early father's about the satisfaction of God 's justice, it is always within the emphasis and balance found within the Patristic mindset regarding the atonement that existed for the first 1000 years of church history... which goes something along these lines... (this is not aimed at you, just anyone who might be reading this) The atoning work of the Son pleased and satisfied the Father, for "For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to Himself", and He was wounded that the ancient wound of sin and its alienating effects might be healed as He reversed every cursed consequence of our disobedience... Within Himself (The God-Man - The Offering - The High Priest - The Mediator between God and man) ... by becoming a curse. He was stripped and shamed that we might be reclothed in immortality and our true dignity... for the chastisement that brought us peace was upon Him (Isaiah 53) - He took it all upon and into Himself... for us... He died our death in order to do what we could never do... Reconcile us to Himself... "For the joy set before Him He endured the cross, scorning its shame", for it is we who, like wayward sheep, had gone astray and walked away and hidden from His Presence; and it is God Who we ultimately hurt with every sin we commit... for He Is Love; and this Love, the Good Shepherd, has descended to find us - as one of us - to seek and to save us. He Who "remembereth that we are dust", has, in pity for us, identified fully with us. As Gregory Nazianzus said in the 4th century, "that which is not assumed, is not healed"... And glory to God ! He has assumed the entirity of our nature by His Incarnation. In love He suffered and took our fall, for else we would inevitably have to die and suffer alianation from Him if someone (the Son of God and Son of Man) had not "in our stead". He showed forth His righteous judgement of sin and reconciled and cleansed our nature by His Incarnation and death: With His arms outstretched, we put Him to death ! And He therefore defeated the enemy (who had no hold on Him) for Christ suffers an unjust comdemnation, that we also, in Him, might not be justly condemned. Through the Eternal Spirit He absorbed and experienced the collective consequences and effects of our transgression and the energies of iniquity, detroying death by His very own ! He "tasted death" - emptying it of its power ! absorbing it all into His Divine Person and disarming and dispelling all the powers of darkness by the Light of His Divinity ! What looked like the ultimate defeat, was in fact the victory of good over evil and the recreation of the entire cosmos. He did this all by is own choice, relationally, and in love. Without compromising His uncreated (Holy) Nature (as God) or the free and loving response of created nature (as man), or violating the laws of cause and effect within the spiritual and physical universe which He had formed and set in motion, the "Logos made man" laid down His Life... And took it back up again ! The Father "laid upon Him the iniquity of us all"... yet according to the predetermined foreknowledge and plan of God, it was us and the demonic powers that smote and afflicted Him... "It was our sin that held Him there" The Father was not pitted against the Son; for the Trinity is One in will and in love. And neither should we say that it was just "the human nature within Him" that God was somehow punishing, for that would amount to Nestorianism in its denial of the true orthodox understanding of the union within the One Person of the God - Man. God freely forgives... For He is Merciful. Through Christ's ministry, all Righteousness was fullfilled "finished". He came to recue us, not from God (though the judgment surely awaits those who will be found not in Christ), but from the enemy and from ourselves (the dominion and captivity of sin). He is our cleansing. His sacrifice is both propitious and expiative; it is, as Ephesians 5:2 says, "holy and pleasing to God"... but the emphasis is on the change effected within man, for whom God became man. For He is the Lamb Who takes away the sin of the world; Who is the ransom to the way things are on every level of being and existence, and Who redeemed us by His Blood (His eternal life). He united humanity and divinity within Himself and so made the Way for us - through Himself, the "Ark" which is His Body through which we were reconciled; and it is now - in Him and His Body - the Church - where we find sanctuary and shelter from the wrath that is to come... For in union with Him there is no condemnation. Jesus upheld all the requirements of Righteousness and became the perfect "offering", "sacrifice".... "the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring us to God" He, as the creed says, "suffered and was buried"... And on the third day was raised up ! and we with Him ! and In Him ! Glory to our God the Triune King of Eternity ! Praise His Holy Name !!!

@@emilesturt3377 a lot of words there that doesn't show my comment to be wrong

@@HearGodsWord Christ be with you *you say* Except that it wasn't invented by Protestants. Much of Reformed theology can be traced back to the early church fathers. response No it doesn't the church fathers are twist they same way scripture are so often. the very nature of faith in Jesus Christ has Changed, Faith in Jesus Christ was trusting son of God to keep his promise to give the gft of eternal life to those who repent and love God and those who love will live by his teaching. (Luke 6:46-49) Most protestants declaration of the Gospel leaves no place for the teaching of Christ but instead produce the false fruit of apathy making it unnecessary to obey him and therfor love him. God bless you

@@MrKev1664 we'll disagree as I don't recognise the claim you make about protestantism in any church I've been in

He is writing to the Jews. So what’s your point?

@@jconsi8255 and Paul is the apostle 'appointed to the GENTILES'....and later progressed to no difference between the two groups...James was preaching faith+works salvation which Jesus and the apostles taught

Wrong

@@joelsuraj2501 Are you saying that for Gentiles salvation comes through faith alone but for the Jews it’s faith plus works?

@@jconsi8255 previously that was the case for the Jews...do u not remember Jesus asking ppl TO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS, GIVE ALL YOUR POSSESSIONS for eternal life??...arent they exactly WORKS??

So, calling any book the Word of God is blasphemy... yet you cite the book of John to prove your point that Jesus is the Word of God. Is that portion of John the word of God?

James was not inspired by Satan, it’s surely great blasphemy to say what was inspired by the Holy Spirit is common. James was the brother of Jesus, all scripture is infallible. Just because Jesus is the word incarnate does not mean the Bible is not the word of God, indeed the 10 commandments written on tablets of stone were the words of God, they came from Gods mouth and were written by His finger. Jesus is the Word of God made flesh, dwelling among us. If the scriptures are not the word of God, then why did Jesus uphold the Holy Scripture as the final authority when He used it to refute Satan in the wilderness? the Scripture given by God was the infallible word by which Christ lived perfectly, as He is the word made flesh. God incarnate. You can’t in one breath say Paul is guided by the spirit in one area of instruction, yet say Satan has guided him in another. Did not Christ appoint him as an apostle? Why would Christ appoint an apostle to speak falsehood and not repent? It’s cherry picking at best to say that Paul was misguided but also uphold his other teachings, I don’t think there is any evidence anywhere in church history that suggests he was guided falsely.

@@korymcconkey834 What else do you expect from someone who says you are only to pray to Jesus....not the Father.