DC's Scarecrow has more thought put into him and his gimmick of fear fits in with the motif. While Marvel's Scarecrow really does seems like he's only made to snatch up the name like you've theorized.
I became aware of this Scarecrow reading my Marvel Official Handbook, and was not surprised to see him not become a bigger thing, since he's so much lamer than DC's version in comparison. A better comparison when thinking about it would be the DC character Ragdoll, also a contortionist supervillain, but if Ragdoll had a army of crows. Even though this Scarecrow never got to the DC's version's fame, he has appeared in a few, quote on quote "big things"... His last appearance was in freaking Fear Itself, and was the boss in the Ghost Rider movie video game, and that's about it!
Fellow Handbook fan(s)? I know they aren't for everyone but damn I grew up loving the handbooks, indexed, and such. I have... it's the 86 series I think... the tpb connection. Lol yeah I'm odd
@@FanBoyBooks I have all three volumes of the '86 handbooks, a reason I even know about characters like The Eternals, pantheons, and classic origins is because of that. Plus it was weird seeing Spider-Man in the symbiote suit, but this before Symbiotes were even a thing, so it's just a fancy alien suit lol
My first introduction to Marvel's Scarecrow was in an issue of Marvel Spotlight in the 80s, when he (and all the other villains) were breaking out of The Vault (Marvel's super villain prison at the time), only to be confronted by Iron Man and Hawkeye. I'm paraphrasing, but the exchange went something like this: (Scarecrow tries to get the drop on Hawkeye, who promptly throws him to the ground and draws his bow on him) SCARECROW: ARGH! What kind of arrow is that? Sonic disrupter? Knockout gas? HAWKEYE: Sorry, I'm all out of "new" arrows. This is just an old "pointy end goes in and leaves a very nasty hole" arrow. (The Scarecrow backs into an open cell) SCARECROW: Here, let me get the door for you.
First time I knew Marvel had a Scarecrow was during a DC Marvel crossover. The 2 Scarecrows mugged Lois Lane and Peter Parker saved herm Parker then hits on Lois in front of Clark.
@@Awestefeld6612 What the hell was the dc Scarecrow doing muggin someone? The indignity! Was that in amalgam or in that one 80s crossover issue between Superman and Spidey? Cause hitting on Lois Lane in front of Superman sounds like a very 80s Peter thing.
I think the idea behind scarecrows is that they are meant to trick crows into thinking a person is there. I guess crows tend to stay away from people. But, trained crows wouldn't have that same fear.
His time to shine, such as it was, was when he was briefly a Ghost Rider villain, and got to be part of the 1992 Ghost Rider phone game. (That is, you dialed a 900 number and answered trivia questions, hoping to win points. One of the most bizarre money grabs in Marvel history, which says a lot.)
Phone game? Cell phones were around in 1992? Forget mobile games! He was a supervillain boss in the video game Ghost Rider based on the 2007 Marvel movie of the same name.
I like DC's Scarecrow way better. This one doesn't make sense at all to me. He has no real skill based around the scarecrow, and he's not even magical, but wants to face Iron Man? So confusing.
I remember Marvel's Scarecrow going up against Ghost Rider in the 90's but then I also remember Madcap kinda replacing Scarecrow as a Ghost Rider villain a few years later anyway
@@thedestroyer2alltrolls411 Scarecrow is not a Daredevil villain but he was a Ghost Rider, Captain America and Spider-Man villain rather than a Iron Man villain
I felt that they finally cemented the scary/creepy Ebenzer via this trilogy. I’d love to see you cover it… Captain America Vol 1 #280 Ghost Rider Vol 3 #7 Captain America/Ghost Rider: Fear
@Roberta Mohamedally I'm hoping with Deadpool being added into the MCU that we'll get a Madcap at some point. Maybe when Deadpool crosses over with Cap as a reference to Madcaps first appearance
I read this Scarecrow first because I was a kid who loved Ghost Rider in the 90's. by that point he had more of a mad serial killer vibe and felt like something out of the X-Files. Plus, Mark Texeira's art made him a thing of nightmares. Those early Danny Ketch Ghost Rider arcs threw everything at the wall to find him a good villain, and this was one of the few that worked.
I remember the first time I saw this Scarecrow. It was in a issue of Marvel Versus DC miniseries. In the issue, Marvel's Scarecrow team ups with DC's Scarecrow to kidnapped Lois Lane. They were stopped by Spider-Man (Ben Reilly). I always wonder where did the other Scarecrow came from. It wasn't until years later when the I looked him up in Wikipedia did I discover what was he all about.
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@Roberta Mohamedally Yes 👍 The King of New York- Alan Grant, Eduardo Barretto This is the occasion I was referring to. Marvel and DC in the issue consolidated the two characters together for the story Daredevil kicks him off the Statue of Liberty and Kingpin punches the Statue of Liberty It also has my favorite DC pairing… ScarecrowxGun! idk why it cracks me up so much but with a Gimmick heavy rogue like The Scarecrow who has so many forms of psychological and physical weapons that lean into his entire theme seeing him use a gun puts me in stitches. It’s like that ol’ gun meme.
I genuinely enjoyed the Captain America/Ghost Rider join up where they fight the Scarecrow. He'd eventually join up with Blackheart and take the series in a weird direction.
Miss America. One from Quality Comics. One from Timely Comics. I think there was a third but she was from a minor comic book publisher and may have had only 1 or 2 stories.
Is comparing Marvel/DC versions of the same idea a series/playlist now? Because I love that idea. I find myself getting excited to read characters like that because I want to see how they differentiate them. In this case I really love the crows. Having a smarmy thief with trained crows he just has hanging around him is such a fun idea.
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Ah, the old “base your supervillain identity on whatever is near you” origin, at least it worked out better for him. The only thing around me when I swore vengeance was my TV remote, so I became the Remote Controller. I started breaking into peoples houses and turning their TV volume up so loud, the whole town would hear it… I was the prince of public disturbance, the ne’er-do-well nuisance, the fear you hear, mah-ha-ha-ha lol
I think the fact that Thorndyke's character was a masked smuggler (with the epic real name of Dr. Syn) who was pretty much a proto-superhero may have influenced the prevalence of Scarecrows in comics.
My only exposure to this character was a brief joke in The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl. He was the subject of one of the Deadpool Trading cards Doreen likes to use. His bio mainly consisted of "no, not THAT guy, you're thinking of something else" and "this guy has never travelled in time" (that was the subject of the arc).
One comment you featured questioned the lack of lawsuit. Do they really think the word scarecrow can be copyrighted? It’s an object in the real world dude!
Although I am generally more of a Make Mine Marvel kind of guy, I prefer the DC Scarecrow: he's scarier! In this story it would have made more sense to have whoever owned the crows in the first place to be the criminal. As it is, it seems like this guy would be better going up against Daredevil or similar "Street Level" superheroes.
Found out about this guy while reading Sam’s Captain America run, and he was literally using fear gas. The crows were a nice touch, though, “crazy, terrified crows”.
This is one of more whacked origins, from him flying on trained crows to the power disparity between him and Iron Man to the ending with him exiled in Cuba thinking how he "underestimated" Iron Man as if trained crows were ever a match for a man in powered armour.
I think the one underestimating Iron Man was Stan. He had a guy with a superstrong, bulletproof armor fighting crazy guys in costumes that were otherwise common thiefs and a circus bowman with trick arrows. No wonder nowadays they just stick to guys in armors as his enemies. Those are the only ones that make it pass the silver age.
4:24 the sole reason I started ready Ironman from whatever issue of tales of suspense he first appeared in. Also why I started reading avengers from issue 1.
We need more Iron Man foes! How about the time Hawkeye defeated Iron Man? back in the day when he was something of a villain. How about the multiple Rag Dolls that have appeared in DC comics over the decades? there aren't as many of them as Clayface but they are worth a mention.
I loved the Ghost Rider/Scarecrow story that I think you showed the cover of. The idea that he could be healed by fear, and so built a house in which he could never die was sick and twisted.
The first time Marvel and DC ever worked together to publish anything, it was the comic book adaptation of The Wizard of Oz. ... It featured a Scarecrow. 😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏
So many good moments in here, Save the Crows, not a natural blonde, Tony being called Antony, Iron man in a sack, bad guy gets away to Cuba! Wow old comics were a trip!
He reminds me of Ragdoll from DC, a triple jointed contortionist who wore a ragdoll skin while committing crimes. He first went up against the Flash, and two others eventually took on his persona, including his son, who had surgery to give him the needed flexibility. The og was named Peter Merkel.
By the way, wasn’t there some Thing/Marvel two in one Issue featuring one of marvels other scarecrow characters who was some form of supernatural Force? #DatingMyself
Yes, that was the Scarecow Sasha mentioned at the end of the video, who was later renamed the Straw Man and revealed to be a fear lord alongside Nightmare, D'Spayre, the Dweller in Darkness and others.
I read that comic with Scarecrow and crew vs the X-Men when I was a little kid and loved it. Marvel had a fun roster of wacky villians in their early days: Porcupine, Plant Man, Unicorn, Human Top, Paste Pot Pete, The Melter, etc - many of which were featured in the Human Torch and/or Ant-Man solo stories.
Never let anyone tell you your videos aren't both entertaining AND informative, Sasha. I commented on your scarecrow vid recently that he's one of my favorites of the Batman rogues over at DC but I, like I'm sure a good few others, had no idea Marvel had one too. Correction, two! You gave me a new brain wrinkle, Sasha. Kudos.
I'm really flexible, I just loved the way lower tier crooks in the Golden Age of comics dreamt up their gimmicks to basically go up against Super Heroes... I wonder if the original "Masters of Evil" did drug testing of new recruits?
I was previously vaguely aware of Marvel's Scarecrow only because during DC vs Marvel/Marvel vs DC they had a card of them fighting, but sadly not the Marvel Enchantress vs the DC Enchantress (iirc they had the Marvel version fight Circe).
I appreciate the concern for Stan's and Don's well-being, but you missed I think one of the best: This was Lettered by Art (when will he learn to spell) Simek
I'd actually enjoy your take on the 70's horror-themed Scarecrow (the one who later became 'The Straw Man'). I was actually something of a fan and actually wrote a fanfic featuring that character.... I also wrote a fanfic for a DC/Marvel Mash-Up website where, among other things, Jonathan Crane visited Ebeneezer in prison, incensed by his 'descecrating' of the Scarecrow legacy.....
Crows seem to always play a slight negative role looking back on them from where we are now. I do have to say love your crow call. Also know this not the place but what the difference in Ravens and Crows?
Actually there was or is another better known Marvel Scarecrow. A Superhero of sorts. One of the "Horror" characters of the 1970's Featured in Marvel Presents and the Dead of Night books among others. I think you can find a few of his stories in one of the Essential Marvel horror Volumes. There actually was an earlier Scarecrow from a pre-Silver Age Monster book, that gave us such other luminaries as Groot and Fin Fang Foom. That one was a one shot story with a Scarecrow transformed into a giant kaiju'esque monster.
I remember Marvel Scarecrow. He looked his best on the Marvel vs DC cardset( where he's literally fighting DCs version in the fields with a pitchfork!), his painting from 94 Marvel Masterpiece, and that early 90s 800 # ad where you phone in who Ghost Rider fights. He didn't have the same appeal as DCs counterpart, but he those earlier depictions made him him very imposing!!!
Thanks for mentioning Straw Man! If you didn't, I would (I just did!), lol! My favorite modern appearance of his was in Kid Loki's book, as a Fear Lords. The Marvel villain Scarecrow always felt like an underachiever, too crow reliant.
I don’t remember the issue. But there was a scene in one of Spider-man comics and I think it was the opening scene where he is fighting Scarecrow and he is jokingly saying how yes he fights a Scarecrow too. Side note it was Sensational Spider-man 29. But it wasn’t the opening scene.
Actually, there's some evidence that early Marvel (i.e. Stan Lee) misunderstood what transistors were. They treated them like capacitors or batteries rather than as transistors. And I had read the "heroic" version of Scarecrow without realizing there was also a villainous Scarecrow, so much of this was new to me. The heroic version had a weird schtick involving a painting. But the DC version seems to have the title and fear theme sewn up pretty well.
During Marvel Vs. DC, the two Scarecrows met - annnnndddd-- didn't really do anything. For all of one panel, one asked what they should do, and the other said he wasn't sure. No Battle For The Name - just hanging back and observing. (At least this is what I recall. It's been awhile since I read it)
