Does My Bulletproof Ballgown Really Work? 

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I JUST found out. STINKS!!

I donated as well.

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I saw Danny's last video a few days ago. I'll miss him. He was such a great guy, I always enjoyed seeing him on the channel.

I just about to comment that

@@FUDKOPOP me too 😚

Agreed…. The fibers were locked up as far as the corset is concerned. As we saw with the panels… they were in fact more capable of stopping a round just because of how thick they were.

What he said

Aramid could be better than kevlar when made in this fashion. But you will need a lot more because of how thin the sheets are. Edit: or you could epoxie the outside edges to keep it together while retaining the flexibility.

in Canada Firearm training is a 3 day course, and its mandatory.

@@KrazyMitchAdventures if every kid in Canada is required to take a firearms safety course, then maybe I should stop making fun of Canadians... quite as much

@@KrazyMitchAdventures And I thought US was known for guns?

@@TheStraycat74 I don't think it is everyone, just those buying a gun. The USA used to teach gun safety in schools, and we should now.

@@KrazyMitchAdventures Yeah I'm a staunch 2A supporter, but I think firearms safety should be a prerequisite for ownership.

I even noticed that she removed her finger from the trigger when not firing. Great job!

Pretty sure that's not her first time shooting but yes, great discipline is extremely important, sadly that needs to be restated all the time

@@alex0589 Xyla says on the OG's show video that she shot a bit as a kid, but from the film I saw from OG, they both took instruction well.

@@COIcultist I think some people are also just naturals at trigger discipline, for example me as a Canadien has never held a firearm, but even so when holding anything even vaguely gun shaped like an electric drill or a nail-gun or a desoldering-gun or a glue-gun I always make sure to keep my finger off the trigger. I did it with Nerf guns and their Buzz Bee cousins when I was a wee little boy dodging Nerf-fire from my bro Edit: Heck, I just realized I do it with my hair dryer too XD

@@Avetho Totally different discipline but I nearly if not ripped my arm off, I was close to mutilating it badly with a drill. I was drilling through some 1/2" steel plate. I was using a drill with a steady handle for my left hand, but the grip and trigger for the right hand was a "D" handle at the back of the drill on the centreline of the drill. The drill bit locked in the steel plate and started to revolve the drill. I had applied the trigger lock and my hand and arm started to twist around , locked within the "D" shape. Fortunately some part of my hand contacted the trigger and the drill stopped. That is one of my closest to a stupid accident moments.

That's certainly the case. The flexibility of the Kevlar is a key part of its bullet resistance.

Hah I was coming here to suggest the same thing. I mean I know very little about kevlar/bullets/etc, but my understanding of how kevlar works is the fabric bunches up and catches the bullet, and maybe the epoxy isn't letting it do its job in that sense. Also this method of bunching up and catching the bullet only works on bullets because they're spinning through the air like a football, it's much less likely to work on a random piece of shrapnel, or something like armour-piercing rounds, which are coated in teflon, so the kevlar can't bunch together and absorb the impact. This was still a very satisfying video to watch though, so thanks for doing this Xyla!

I assumed the same thing, kevlar chainsaw pants are padded with loose woven kevlar fibres that wrap round the moving chain & stop it. A bullet proof ballgown would probably work better designed along the same lines, a flexible padded construction beneath - it be more comfortable plus the wearer wouldn't end up with carbon fibres embedded in them if they got shot. Or chainsawed. Edit: agree, still v satisfying to watch the ballgown fully tested

@@DavyHulme Yeah, I totally hate getting shot and then chainsawed

Ballistic helmets are made this way. Layers of kevlar epoxied together. Just needs to be a bit thicker. I don't remember for sure but I believe most kevlar helmets are at least 16 layers.

She was a natural. Better than most of the police officers I train.

Anti-tear?

I don't mean to dispute your credentials, but as others have pointed out most ballistic helmets use multiple layers of epoxied Kevlar. When hit they deform, absorbing the impact - which is why they're also fairly large and have very thick padding on the inside, so the dent doesn't get transferred into the users skull. That said they're typically ~1/4" thick, quite a bit more than the dress panels.

@@David-tl6lv This is a little off topic, but your description of the helmets reminds me of Snell-approved motorcycle helmets. Of course, slamming into pavement is not the same as getting hit by a bullet. I don't know what the hard shell is made of, but they do share the padding on the inside, but it may be even thicker. The makers of the ones used to have said that if the helmet ever gets dropped onto a hard surface, it should go back to the mfr for x-ray examination. So that suggests that the shell deforms permanently in some way (de-laminates?) in a design to absorb energy.

@@David-tl6lv with the correct epoxies, in thick substrates, yes that is correct. In part the epoxies used are designed to "reflow" to an extent when heated by the friction of the round passing into it. The thicker piece allows for the projectile to hit and deform on the outer layer (sometimes a shell or coating) to increase surface area, which A) slows the round some and B) generates heat that softens the resin. Then there's the debate of of proprietary fibers, coatings, Yada Yada yada...(least that's how it was explained to me)

@@b43xoit to prevent things from tearing the structure. In the case of what I did, preventing embedded hardware and hard points from ripping through the carbon under stress. Carbon (and to a lesser extent fiberglass) tends to shatter when shockloads are applied or if a crack forms. Kevlar has a "softer" failure mode in which the resin will separate from the weave to an extent and can be used to hold things together even after it has failed. To my knowledge it is due to the permeability of the fibers which can be seen when you post cure cut the materials. Asuming you don't get the materials too hot and alter the resins...Carbon tends to cut fairly clean, fiberglass tends to have some fraying, Kevlar is a mess. Those frayed fibers being ones that were not rigidized by absorbing resins into the fiber.

She was out with OG for a day and already wanted to stick her finger in something.

@@t.r.4496 He has that effect on people.

@@vicroc4 Even the Turkish coast guard?

It was so strange to see Jeff's voice coming from a human form.

Progressive loading? I thought Tao and Greg hated anything progressive.

I guess that's why they use the kevlar WITHOUT a resin matrix for helmets... because it works better that way. Right? If you don't know something, it's possible not to voice an uneducated opinion.

It has more to do with the fact that kevlar has exceedingly high tensile strength, but yes the so called bullet proof aspect requires the weave to be able to deform, as you said. If this were not the case fiberglass would work just as well, and it won't. And I know someone that was shot while wearing a police vest at fairly close range with a medium energy weapon (a lot more than a 22, but not remotely a 44 mag) and his report to me was that it was a bit like being hit very hard with a hammer. It still does a good bit of damage, just not the lethal kind, which is always good.

@@horvathbenedek3596 hahaha

Epoxy is a *plastic* and by nature is somewhat flexible, absorbing, and well, plastic, in nature. You want some interlocking of the fibers and layers within some kind of matrix. Maybe epoxy isn't the most ideal though. Perhaps silicone rubber would be better. Interestingly, nylon coated with silicone has higher tensile strength than its pure nylon counterpart, because it provides some stabilizing matrix for the nylon fibers, but a highly flexible one that allows the nylon to stretch and deform under load/tension.

also it has booba to pass through, she wouldve lived lmao just pierced the booba enough

I absolutely agree! My politics and interests would make most people assume I've never fired a gun in my life, but I'm actually a good shot, and I very much believe in safety! It always makes me sad to see people going around with zero understanding of what they're doing, even if it's just a Nerf gun. But when I try to tell a lot of my peers, they get uncomfortable like I'm some sort of fanatic gun psycho or something. I wish more people my age had the ability to stop and consider world views apart from their own. I think a lot of us are scared of what we don't understand, and that's shameful, honestly.

I hope to never be exposed to firearms in a Safeway!

@@CGamesPlay Yeah that'd probably end poorly lol

Flashbacks to Summer Glau in Firefly...

That's a movie I'd watch.

Jesus is the devil.

@Miles Doyle Sounds kinda judgmental, wouldn't trust anyone like that.

@@error.418 probably tortures and kills babies as part of it's unknowable plan...yeesh

Yes I believe kevlar armor slows and "catches" the bullet. It's the difference between doing a superhero landing on one knee and vs two feet. A superhero landing would destroy your hip.

Makes is terrible for stab resistance. :-)

I was about to post the same thing. It would be interesting to see how well an alternating hard carbon fiber/soft kevlar 'sandwich' would work, with the innermost carbon fiber shell being much thicker to act as a backstop. (To make the whole thing at once, I would use plastic film between the layers to prevent resin from soaking into the kevlar.)

@@KeithOlson even layering the kevlar without the epoxy, being sandwiched between hard layers would still negate its abilities.

@@static2430 I think he had something with the idea of using plastic. They make plasticized resin. It's popular for 3D printing miniatures, makes it so the pointy bits don't pop off so easy.

Jeff has been in quite a few of his own vids. I’ve turned the camera on him more than a few times. I’ve done two behind the scenes videos that feature him heavily.

Danke me in Herr. We all miss Danny.

I could have cried laughing when at 12.16 she said "It's not resistive, it's like I could stick my finger through that." I'm thinking, "has this girl watched much filming with Greg in it?"

We miss you Danny. Rest in Peace.

Watch a bulllet proof vest getting hit in slo motion. The epoxy prevents flexing in the fibers, witch is what dissipates energy.

@Miles Doyle nobody cares about your ponzi scheme fraud.

@Miles Doyle Stay on topic.

Usually, NIJ Level IV plates are ceramic first, followed by an NIJ Level III AR500 or AR550 steel armor plate. The ceramic is there to be a hard, brittle layer that causes a lot of energy dump from the initial impact, causing the ceramic to shatter, followed by the steel to stop and spall anything that continues on. For soft body armor, such as NIJ Level IIIA kevlar (or whatever modern equivalent they're using today, such as another aramid composite, that we just generically refer to as kevlar), it'll stop pretty much any pistol round, up to .44 Magnum, though it falls apart against rifle rounds, so your "slow-moving" comment is relatively accurate - general rule is, speed defeats armor. See, the way kevlar stops a bullet is due to the tremendous drag it creates on penetrating objects when the fibers are ruptured and split, they just create so much surface area against the projectiles that they dump all their energy in trying to get past those fiber endings. Think of the end of a piece of thread spreading out into all the tiny fibers that make it up, then multiply that by a zillion, and it's all the surface area of those tiny fibers that creates drag that stops the projectiles (and any fragments that may result from the impact). If a projectile is going much faster, though, then it'll spend less time in contact with that surface area, and thus dump less energy into it, consequently proceeding through.

I like the way you call Taofledermaus "they" and "them" - It reflects the fact that he is actually an INSTITUTION, and more than just one man...

I say we all start doing that as a community

Yeah but it’s Xyla Fauxlin

Integza !!!

@@xylafoxlin 😂😂

@@xylafoxlin 🙃i thought he meant the lady you were shooting at? haha..

@@GardFiring a mannequin dream , am I right?

*whispers "AR500 steel ..."*

it would be interesting to see a thicker 50 percent kevlar that actually stops the bullet and see the result on front / back. :-) also... i think therefore school?

@@bullzebub I think therefore I play.

@Crimson Halo Hell yeah that’s exactly what I was thinking ball gown plate armour would be awesome. Probably really heavy though.

I think the epoxy is probably weakening the kevlar somewhat because kevlar is usually a soft armour so as cool as the carbon fibre looks I think A softer more padded kevlar ball gown would do a better job stopping bullets.

@Miles Doyle truth, love you brother in christ

what happened this week?

@@fernfractal the filming incident involving mr. Baldwin and the death of a movie camera woman.

@@fernfractal a complete and utter breakdown of all the necessary safety rules because movie stars are apparently above that sort of thing...

@@legbreaker2762 They are, it's not their job. The people providing the weapons screwed up.

I think the other way around would be better. Soft Kevlar would catch and dissipate the energy, where the hard carbon fiber shell underneath would deflect the shrapnel that has way less energy. And given that carbon fiber won't shatter, it wouldn't explode into the person.

The hard layer would also help against knives and would probably even dissipate the impact of a baseball bat, for example. Think of an athletes chest protector or a baseball helmet (for the impact, not the knives lol)

@@mxcherryblue5943 Sorry, but no, that is backwards. You want the bullet to strike the hard layer first. If you put the soft Kevlar in front then the hard surface behind it acts like a chopping block. Look at any actual composite armors: the soft layer is always towards the body.

@@WhoTouchMyGun Sorry, nope. The hard shell is first. For example: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TO4hcq4QSvM.html

@@kevinj9059 isn't the Kevlar the soft one? You a a soft one to obsorb the energy and the hard one to kept it in shape. Same with steel and ceramics, steel is softer than the ceramic that is harder(and fragile).

Most youtubers I've seen who are actually firearm focused are very good with safety. Taofledermaus definitely has a curious side too, and I have spent considerable time watching with glee all the things they've fired out of a shotgun.

@@reaganharder1480 They're certainly, uh, varied :p (but yeah they've also had some quite interesting and reasonably scientific content too, which I liked)

Also, lol the high-necked dress. You don't want cleavage when working with semiauto guns, as some of my well-endowed friends have learned from experience.

She did amazingly well for an (almost) first timer. Very good shooter and both her and Joe were naturals at accuracy and safety.

I used to work USPSA matches as a range officer. We had a few low-time lady shooters show up wearing scoop neck shirts or other cleavage exposing tops. One of them voluntarily applied duct tape across her shirt rather than go home to change. A couple learned the hard way, in spite of advice from other seasoned lady shooters.

@@DeliveryMcGee Let me guess... hot potato? (cartridge ejection) I know little of it but it seems that would indeed be rather distressing!

@@mduckernz happened to my aunt once, so yeah you don't want to give hot brass an excuse to jump down your shirt

A gun is as much of a tool as an angle grinder or a hammer. All three are functional weapons, just one is politicized.

@@kyleh3615 Just one is specifically designed to kill. Just say n'

@@moki123g and yet, more people are killed with hammers and bats.

If you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. If you have a gun, everything looks like a victim.

@@llejk not to my experience with military firearms and ordnance, though with the latter, everything is just a string of map grid coordinates XD

That's probably the only way to legally shoot in CA is to do it with a commissioned LEO present. I'm willing to bet without Officer Greg present, TAOFLEDERMAUS YT videos would be illegal in CA. It would have been really entertaining if FPSRussia did a cameo with his 2A rights restored or he shot it with an arrow or crossbow bolt. He can possess and use those. And as always, have nice day.

I have to say, as a person who has to be gluten free, doing this as an expensive hobby is frightening. Since trends amp up the market, using this reasoning we probably have GF pizza much faster, I have to like it.

@@vjnobody same. Power to all the trendy eaters. They let me live more normally

@@vjnobody my aunt thought she was gluten intolerant and it just ended up being cancer. Many people makeup gluten intolerance in their own head

Lol, "bullet-friendly" sounds like the exact opposite of what you'd want.

@@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316 I had a girlfriend who was gluten intolerant right up until something sounded good that contained gluten. Then it was fine. She kind of reminded me of a girl I knew once who was allergic to cigarette smoke, but she luckily got over her allergy when she picked up a smoking habit.

Taflodermaus does science (ballistics science included) instead of "SCIENCE!"

Or as Destin and Smarter Every Day showed recently. How to vaporize Mayonnaise with a Mach 1+ baseball… lol!

@@ETC_Rohaly_USCG That was more of a side effect, for the lols. The actual thing they were doing was characterising the relationship between supply pressure vs vacuum pressure vs velocity, and velocity over time for a baseball in supersonic-sonic region

@@mduckernz Hello fellow Matt. I was just mentioning it to be silly, and promote another channel, but then you had to go and be all scientific and such… lol! Comments for the Algorithm Pineapple Horseshoe Umbrella

"Is mayonnaise -an instrument- bulletproof?"

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ngl it made me a little gayer 😩💕

hahaha!

Seriously, range dates are awesome. There's actually a great video by the legend paul Harrell on how to make sure your date enjoys their first range trip

@@greencreekranch Sounds like the most American thing ever 🤠

That's probably never going to happen, just because of LPL's day job. I'm sure he'd enjoy the game of debuffing every polished surface and staying out of frame though. On a related note how the heck is it we all pretty much sub to the same people? Because I'm willing to bet you follow Deviant and Forgotten Weapons as well.

yes

Yes but in conjunction with the tensile strength and the weave pattern. All the weaves being aligned parallel to one another is very detrimental to the properties of bulletproof textiles.

@@kodizzie3827 but is making it hard bad or good?

@@nudl3Zz For kevlar its bad since it needs to "catch" the bullet, like you alluded to in your original comment. Even still the slabs of micarta would have likely benefited from each layer being placed at 45 degree angles. Overall it was a great experiment though.

@Miles Doyle is he bulletproof though?