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Does science show that the universe had a beginning? And if so, is that an argument for the existence of God? A Christian and atheist discuss it. This is an excerpt; click here to see the full discussion:
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6Wc8T3AMOjw.html .
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In this episode, Bernie Dehler (atheist) has a discussion with Jeff Zweerink (Christian) from Reasons to Believe Ministry. They discuss these 5 topics: 1) Science shows the universe had a beginning? 2) Was the universe designed for life? 3) Does the Christian worldview give a foundation for science? 4) Does nature reveal God's design? 5) "Magical Thinking" vs. "Scientific Thinking."
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More program info:
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On 5-2-16, Bernie Dehler (atheist) had an videotaped discussion with Jeff Zweerink (evangelical Christian apologist) for a TV show in Beaverton Oregon called "Questions for Christians."
Topics:
1. Science shows the universe had a beginning? 8:58
2. Was the universe designed for life? 23:38
3. Does the Christian worldview give a foundation
for science? 32:56
4. Does nature reveal God's design? 42;10
5. "Magical Thinking" vs. "Scientific Thinking" 49:50
More info on the presenters:
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Bernie is the author of "Modern Science and Philosophy Destroy Christian Theology," which can be found here:
www.amazon.com/Science-Philosophy-Destroy-Christian-Theology/dp/1490479341 . You can also find him on Twitter here: BernieDehler and on Facebook here: Bernie-Dehler-467276896621775 . His blog is here: atheistpromoter.blogspot.com/ .
Jeff Zweerink is a scientist (Astrophysicist) and Christian apologist working at Reasons to Believe (RTB) ministry. He says his involvement in science apologetics grows from an enthusiasm for helping others bridge the perceived science-faith gap. As research scholar and executive director of online learning at Reasons to Believe (RTB), Jeff focuses on encouraging people of all backgrounds to consider the truth of Scripture and how it connects with the evidence of science.
A Christian from childhood, Jeff struggled to reconcile his love of science and his desire to serve God. While an undergrad at Iowa State University, he heard astronomer and RTB founder Hugh Ross speak on the constructive integration of science and faith. Hugh's old-earth perspective introduced Jeff to a creation view that aligns with both Scripture and science. Ten years later, a professor encouraged Jeff to enroll in RTB's volunteer apologetics program. This involvement, coupled with Jeff's desire to serve God through direct ministry, led to a scholar position in 2005.
Today, Jeff writes and speaks on the compatibility of faith and science and on evidence for intentional design from a multiverse theory, dark energy and dark matter, and exoplanets. His speaking engagements take him to universities, churches, and other venues around the world, including high schools and youth groups. Jeff also serves as executive director of Reasons Institute and Reasons Academy (RTB's accredited online learning programs) and hosts the RTB website's video interviews.He is the author of the book Who's Afraid of the Multiverse? and coauthor RTB's Impact Events student devotional series.
Prior to joining RTB, Jeff spent much time working on the STACEE and VERITAS gamma-ray telescopes and was involved in research projects such as the Solar Two Project and the Whipple Collaboration. He still holds a part-time position at UCLA and is working on GAPS, a balloon experiment seeking to detect dark matter. Jeff is coauthor on more than 30 papers published in peer-reviewed journals, such as Astrophysical Journal, and Astroparticle Physics, and Astrobiology, as well as numerous conference proceedings.
More info about Jeff can be found at the RTB ministry website here: www.reasons.org/about/who-we-are/jeff-zweerink .

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15 май 2016

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@talktomeaboutlife 8 лет назад
9:36 This is the whole crux of all the cosmological arguments. If you can't get from just any all cause to a conscious cause, you are not demonstrating a deity. It's interesting that in Dr Zweerink's answer he talks about 'if' consciousness is not just a rearrangement of matter, then it's not comparable to the feathers analogy. That's a big if. I just don't find the not being able to be greater than the cause of the universe argument convincing. Trees are greater than the seeds they spring from, humans are greater than the sperm and egg they grow from, certainly abilities of computers are greater than those of every human being put together - the whole argument has to be made much precisely than Dr Zweerink puts it in this video if it is to not be susceptible to counterargument or simply an accusation of personal incredulity. I mean, if consciousness is really just a gradual stacking of reactionary reflexes throughout millenia, eventually leading to advanced social concepts as empathy and foreplanning which carry evolutionary benefits specific to species, then it's not as counterintuitive as Dr Zweerink suggests. I would not be surprised to see such conciousness in people in a way I would not see in a quantum vacuum or a simple origin of the universe. Unfortunately, it does come across as one of those arguments that's more persuasive if you already have some sort of theistic outlook, but a bit of a non sequiter if you don't already accept that paradigm.