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Does Switzerland have a wolf problem? (Farming The Alps #4) 

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hello everybody it is a beautiful day today imagine that there's no rain pretty awesome the cows are all sitting here waiting to go outside but the field they're in right now is too small for them all so we're just grazing them half a day and then later on they'll go to their other fields let this small group out
we need some extra nets for the field we're going to so we're taking these ones down the Sheep grazed it pretty well and they've moved on to a New Pasture and next we're going to be growing hay on here so we don't need them here anymore we're all loaded up here we've got everything but we got to get this fence done because the Sheep are going to go up there tomorrow
this is probably the Farm's steepest sheep pasture and it's probably one of the fields with the highest wolf danger there's a pretty good Forest up above us there the majority of it used to be metal netting but we're switching all to Electric in the second episode I mentioned that Eric had gotten new Nets and I said that these new Nets were for the Wolves this might surprise some but there are wolves in Switzerland when I first moved to Switzerland I knew that there had been wolves in the past but I was pretty surprised to find that they were still here when I think of a place that large carnivores like wolves would live I think of a vast area of wilderness like in Alaska or Canada Switzerland's not that there just isn't that much Wilderness here I mean everywhere you go in Switzerland there are people and there's restaurants on the top of like every mountain now of course not every Mountain but you get my point it just really doesn't seem like a place wolves would live and for a while there were no wolves in Switzerland by the 1950s they had been hunted to Extinction later on laws protecting Wildlife including wolves were put in place then in the 90s a few wolves crossed from Italy over to Switzerland and started Living in 2012 the first wolf pack was documented here the Wolves were back and the return of the Wolves is kind of a controversial thing in Switzerland there's some Swiss that really really like the wolves and there's some Swiss that really really don't now I don't think that wolves are this evil animal that needs to be wiped from the face of the Earth but I think when we sit down and look at the numbers there's some good reason for concern according to Cora an organization that tracks wolf activity in Switzerland in 2012 there was just one wolf pack made up of a few wolves as of 2022 there are 18 wolf packs and another five on the borders with other countries there are 240 wolves living in Switzerland and the problem isn't the number of wolves the problem is the livestock they kill in 2021 wolves killed 853 Livestock in Switzerland alone there is no official number for 2022 but some are saying it's over a thousand that's a lot of livestock it's mostly smaller animals like sheep and goats but there have been some calves and smaller cows killed as well just hit lunch we're gonna move around the cows real quick bring these ones in and these ones in and let the other ones out kind of do a little rotation there

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@WaechterDerNacht
@WaechterDerNacht Год назад
In general a good and largely neutral video. Thanks and congrats on that! The only point i would make is that the amount of wild animals needed for the wolves is nowhere near that, that dies in accidents or gets hunted. I quickly looked up the statistics for Kanton Schwyz for the season 2022/23: Hunted Rotwild (red deer): 557 Hunted Gämswild (chamois): 294 Hunted Rehwild (roe deer): 1'030 According to the traffic accident statistics from the Kanton Schwyz, there were 18 accidents involving wild animals in 2022 (seems to me to be suspiciously low though, probably many that were not reported because the car didn't get relevant damage). Anyway, i guess the point i want to make is clear. All in all a really good video! Still on question left: was that wolve footage shot by you? Haven't got some good wildlife infront of the lens lately...
@crocicroc5099
@crocicroc5099 Год назад
sure but the number would come on top of that.
@WaechterDerNacht
@WaechterDerNacht Год назад
@@crocicroc5099 Not necessarily. One of the main reasons we hunt nowadays isn't food, but keeping the number of wild animals in a certain number range to limit e.g. damage on young trees and croops. This is necessary due to the fact the large predators are missing that would regulate the number of other animals in a working ecosystem. If the sheep are protected well enough that it's not worth it for the wolves to try, their next best option are wild animals. This means the number of hunted animals would need to be adjusted accordingly (if there are 1000 roe deer needed currently, this would be no problem, but i guess the hunters wouldn't like that...). One of the benefits of that would be, that the wolves are much more likely to get sick or injured pray than healthy pray that is faster. This is an effect a hunter with a rifle will not have. He/she might be able to see if an animal is injured or has a sickness with optical symptoms, but i guess that is very difficult to see at dawn. But above all of that is also the question if we want an ecosystem in Switzerland that is functioning without the need of massive human intervention to play the role that other animals would take, because those animals are just not here anymore.
@crocicroc5099
@crocicroc5099 Год назад
@@WaechterDerNachtwell explained. thanks for taking the time!
@AmericameetsSwitzerland
@AmericameetsSwitzerland Год назад
Thank you for the compliment, and you have a good point. I think you can argue both ways, but the lack of wilderness is my biggest concern. Alaska has roughly the same number of hectares per wolf but is 36 times the size with a population of 700,000 people. I worry that as the population of wolves grows It will be harder to keep them in the williness. The video of the wolves was taken at Wildnispark Zurich. I have not tried to film wolves in the wild yet. Hopefully, someday🙂
@mazzevogt9355
@mazzevogt9355 Год назад
​@@AmericameetsSwitzerland Hey, have you ever gotten some informations from someone who is watching the Wild Wolves closely to monitor/protect and also see the effects (lifestock killed, trashbins raided, ...) the Wolves cause? I should be able to get you contact informations if wanted. Greetings Mazze
@Idahorokon
@Idahorokon 4 месяца назад
Can you post a video of a Swiss Church service? You can place the cell phone in a shirt pocket before you walk in and start the video. Thanks for considering this.
@benja_mint
@benja_mint 2 месяца назад
i'm a year late, and i dont have an opinion about the wolfs i understand both sides.. but to your question about whether the wild population of animals can support the wolves... yes. in fact because there were no wolves the population of wild boars and gams etc. is so high that they're overpopulated and around 100,000 wild animals are culled each year by hunters in switzerland (the number is even higher in austria and germany). edit: it seems other people already commented the same
@petersabol2979
@petersabol2979 Год назад
Nice video. Btw., do you have any recommendation how to behave as a tourist when crossing the cow's pasture area on a pedestrian path? Walking with a stroller and having a yellow jacket on, I think it made cows a bit nervous during one of our recent hikes and they started following us :D
@WaechterDerNacht
@WaechterDerNacht Год назад
I am not a cow expert, but from my experience while hiking etc. the cows are very curious in spring when they get out and the first couple hikers come by. Later in the season they keep calmer. The main points in general (not only for cows) I know of are: - dont spook them (be on a well visible route, dont cross a cow field in dense fog in silence, maybe just talk in normal level) - don't cross between the mother cow and the calf. If there are alot of calfs around, take a route that goes around the group.
@petersabol2979
@petersabol2979 Год назад
@@WaechterDerNacht Thank you! ;)
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
👍💪✌️
@LeCalmar
@LeCalmar Год назад
Only in kanton bern, 6000 Roe deer are killed by traffic every year, so I'm pretty sure a 1000 of them being eaten by wolves wouldn't be a major problem.
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
Exactly right, good comparison. So, let the wolves live, they are better for nature than many other things. Wolves are majestic ❤.
@kennethfharkin
@kennethfharkin Год назад
They are not eating 1,0000 Roe deer. They are eating farmers' livestock.
@kennethfharkin
@kennethfharkin Год назад
That map is definitely old. I was just over there for work for my third time this year. There had just been 5 goats killed by wolves in Undervelier, in the Jura, west of Moutier. I was discussing this with local friends over dinner up the hill to the south from Court. I believe you are correct in your assessment. The wild areas of Switzerland are neither as large nor remote as Americans tend to believe and these predators can have a devastating effect left uncontrolled. The idea of simply scaring them away with noise and lights as some have tried will eventually fail if the packs come to realize it is just that, noise and lights with no real danger. In addition to wolves the lynx are also a big issue. I am told that the wolves tend to kill and eat while the lynx will simply kill and kill and kill with one lynx killing as many as nine deer. Note that deer are also raised for their meat there in addition to their wild populations.
@CreepyTrendMan
@CreepyTrendMan 13 дней назад
Fences. Really simple .
@kennethfharkin
@kennethfharkin 12 дней назад
@@CreepyTrendMan you are funny. Wolves are incredibly powerful and agile. They can jump and they can dig. Lynx will climb right over. There are fences.
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
4:07 what a nice Muni!
@Motherof6pack
@Motherof6pack Год назад
It’s just seems common sense that anything killing our food chain needs to be removed. There are ethical ways of doing so. If it was a fungus or bugs killing crops we would find a solution without doing damage to our health. Anyhow, good video!! I know how hard it is to do fencing like this!! We live in the Ozarks where the ground is extremely rocky! It’s not easy work. You guys are awesome to persevere in spite of your terrain.
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
The Italian and French have solved it by having sheep dogs out with the sheep. The big white dogs, don't know their names. But most farmers don't consider using them, but why not?
@MyMasterchiller
@MyMasterchiller Год назад
those dogs are very aggressive towards stangers, as they should be for protection. But hiking trails often go true pastures which is a problem with those dogs. But they are used where it is possible
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
@@MyMasterchiller yes, very protective indeed. People on hikes would become aware of the fact and it would be safe to have even more of them in the future. Donkeys are also great protectors as well.
@AmericameetsSwitzerland
@AmericameetsSwitzerland Год назад
From my understanding, the maremma sheepdogs are becoming more popular. Kalberweidli uses gard donkeys. I'm sure they will be in a video at some point.
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
@@AmericameetsSwitzerland cheers!
@aleccrippa8868
@aleccrippa8868 Год назад
Hundreds, thousands, of unguarded sheep die every year on the alps due to accidents, illness, thunderstorms or just because they are not found in autumn, when they are brought down to the valley.. I personally told sheep owners who were leaving the alp with there sheep on such occasion, that I had seen a group of sheep on my way down. They would not care.
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
And they care about eliminating the wolves? If so, what hipocrites.
@crocicroc5099
@crocicroc5099 Год назад
You are making assumptions based on one farmer you met. I know lots of farmers and pretty much all of them care deeply about their animals. most of them took measures and have not yet lost an animal to wolves.
@aleccrippa8868
@aleccrippa8868 Год назад
It was not only one, actually. There were a grouo of sheep owners at the side of the one I spoke with, and none of them would care.. During an other hike of mine unguarded sheep were resting on the hiking trail, which to the right had a steep cliff. No fence nor anything to hinder them to go there... I tried to thoroughly circumvent the herd to the left, putting myself at risk. Nonetheless the sheep started moving and some fell down the cliff. I went down to the cabin (chalet) of the sheep owner to inform him. He would not care neither, mentioning that he would pretend that a lynx had been the cause of a panic, allowing him this way to cash in the indemnities due in such cases (and financed by me as a taxpayer, not to mention the subsidies the shipowners get..)
@aleccrippa8868
@aleccrippa8868 Год назад
But the better, if some care and take appropriate...
@aleccrippa8868
@aleccrippa8868 Год назад
..measures..
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