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Does The 2020 Toyota RAV4 TRD Off-Road Live Up To Its Name? We Find Out The Hard Way! 

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( www.TFLcar.com ) The 2020 Toyota RAV4 TRD Off-Road is the most expensive RAV4 and the promises to be the most off-road capable yet, but how does it actually fare in the real world? We find out by taking it off the pavement in the Colorado Rockies!
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@JP1348
@JP1348 4 года назад
Nice video Tommy.
@joetool4016
@joetool4016 4 года назад
I wish Toyota would stop cheapening the TRD name... Make it live up to the name!! Thank you guys for actually testing what automakers claim, not simply content to judge badges. I can only hope that automakers will take notice and make better vehicles.
@maximilianrockefeller8854
@maximilianrockefeller8854 4 года назад
Totally agree here. How can they call it a TRD Off-Road and have such poor off road chops out-of-the-box? Imagine if the TRD Off-Road had Toyota's reliability, and Jeep's capabilities (locking diffs, enter/depart angles, etc)? That recipe would easily be king of the trail. Sadly, this Rav4 has the name but not the capabilities. A real disappointment.
@tonychau1983
@tonychau1983 4 года назад
They're not going to stop. Buyers now are idiots and will buy as long as it has CarPlay and androidauto
@joetool4016
@joetool4016 4 года назад
@@maximilianrockefeller8854 that would be awesome... Fortunately, they have such a vehicle, the 4runner. Which I would choose over a CRV, RAV4, PILOT, ESCAPE, etc, any day of the week
@Czech91
@Czech91 4 года назад
I kinda have to agree it's just like Jeeps trail rated BS. If the Rav 4 was much more aggressive in 4x4 terms then maybe
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 4 года назад
Ya that's one thing I hate if u want a m car or AMG buy the real thing
@hippiebits2071
@hippiebits2071 4 года назад
THIS is THE review people need to watch if they are considering this vehicle for more than its on road capabilities.
@fremontpathfinder8463
@fremontpathfinder8463 3 года назад
Yep, need to get the 4 Runner
@jacobgaylord9277
@jacobgaylord9277 4 года назад
Thank you so much for an amazing review. This was everything that I’ve always hoped from TFL. No trash talking brands, no wild expectations of a family-based SUV to conquer MOAB, just a detailed, honest review with both isolated and real world testing in a realistic application of the vehicle. Sure, it doesn’t cater to serious off-roaders, but neither does this car. This is targeted at mountain bikers, hikers, climbers, etc and your review shows exactly what they’re looking to know. Couldn’t ask for more, I truly hope to see more great content like this out of you guys.
@danmoriarty6901
@danmoriarty6901 2 года назад
Couldn't have said it better mysel
@billyschannel997
@billyschannel997 3 года назад
Better approach angle, lift 2-3 inches, and smaller rims (bigger tire sidewall) would make this a really good off-road vehicle.
@kurtwuerfele3065
@kurtwuerfele3065 Год назад
💯Agreed with this. My thought is, buy an Adventure and mod it!
@zachariahatkinson9379
@zachariahatkinson9379 4 года назад
Moral of the story is if you want a Rav 4 get the 10k cheaper one. If you want an offroader get a Tacoma or 4Runner. $10k could be better spent on aftermarket offroad gear
@ahighervibe4086
@ahighervibe4086 4 года назад
You should get a first Gen RAV4 manual trans and do a New vs Old off-road test😉
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 4 года назад
Ya I love those cars whit the real hood scoop
@rubenbraekman4515
@rubenbraekman4515 4 года назад
First gen with proper tires would wipe the floor with it
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 4 года назад
@@rubenbraekman4515 absolutely are you on about the ones that had a hood scoop ya I love those old ones
@Carubines
@Carubines 4 года назад
@@neilmurphy845 first gen never had good scoop to my knowledge
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 4 года назад
@@Carubines ow I thought they did my mistake
@rehaerman6519
@rehaerman6519 4 года назад
I have a 2013 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD with the off-road package. It's a real beast! I have done mudding, taken off-road everywhere, never got stuck!! It has a very high ground clearance and METAL SKID PLATES! Tacoma is THE REAL DEAL, THE TRUE OFF-ROAD MACHINE!! Don't go with anything else if you are serious about off-roading!!!
@dan.h210
@dan.h210 4 года назад
Do a little (offroad) group test vs Mazda CX5 with the new offroad traction assist and a Subaru Forester!
@JusticeGamingChannel
@JusticeGamingChannel 4 года назад
this
@willba4
@willba4 4 года назад
they cant. subaru wont lend them cars anymore as they damaged one of the previous loan cars by well... trying to make it something that it cant really do :P so unless a viewer lets them borrow their car or something...
@dan.h210
@dan.h210 4 года назад
@@willba4 :)
@nathanspence4859
@nathanspence4859 4 года назад
Yes please.
@AmericanFry
@AmericanFry 4 года назад
Replace Subaru with Cherokee trail hawk since Subaru Is afraid of being exposed
@Infinitebreak97
@Infinitebreak97 4 года назад
I genuinly think the primary reason the RAV4 doesn't get more goodies for offroad stuff is simply its purpose. This suv is sold around the world, day and night compared to the jeep cherokee, and people will buy it mainly as a city vehicle or dirt country vehicle. No one will want to rock crawl on this, but will be enlightned to know that in a pinch, this vehicle will get them out. The premium price pays itself off in reliability as usual and I don't mind paying for that. I still have my 2008 Rav4 and I do not think I will be getting a new one anytime soon lol
@orion_033
@orion_033 4 года назад
Gosh I love this channel!, Can't wait to get the 300hp Prime varient of the RAV4 in Australia !!
@RyanRKJ
@RyanRKJ 4 года назад
I completely agree with your conclusion. Great video Tommy. The Rav4 TRD looks great, but if you really can't take it far off road due to clearance, you end up spending a lot of money for what ends up being mostly an appearance package.
@bjsimon802
@bjsimon802 3 года назад
I live in Canada, I have been 17 inches of snow with My Rav4 with the trucks. We had a massive snow fall, all the cars were getting stuck. My Rav4 rifled through the snow. They are built for more than 150 countries to handle all terrain.
@briangarner
@briangarner 4 года назад
LOVE Toyota/Lexus, really disappointed that the threw the TRD plate on this average SUV.
@gerhardstrydom5249
@gerhardstrydom5249 4 года назад
Just a thought Tommy...what are the approach and departure angles...? Ground clearance (Rav 4 TRD Off Road had 220mm) must be evaluated in perspective... 1. Suzuki Jimny has 210mm, with great approach and departure angles and can go almost anywhere. 2. My Pajero (LWB) has 215mm with good approach, but bad departure angle and is not suited for trail driving. So 220mm ground clearance in itself is not so bad, but the approach and departure angles are the big limiting factors.
@rayfauteux2143
@rayfauteux2143 3 года назад
17-18 miles per gallon is a deal-breaker for me when it comes to the Forerunner even though it's a super-tough vehicle. You are getting much closer to 30MPG with the Rav and it just makes more sense(cents). I really wonder how many people use all the off-roading capabilities of whatever vehicle they purchase. The Rav is an excellent combination of pretty good off-roading and smooth highway driving. This will be my next vehicle. Love my Honda Element, but Honda stopped making them in 2011 or I would buy another one in a heartbeat.
@darylhill9400
@darylhill9400 3 года назад
This RAV4 to me is very similar to the Subaru outback but a Toyota with Toyotas legendary durability
@PersingerJim
@PersingerJim 4 года назад
NEVER off road in a 2020 RAV4, unless you want to risk being towed back or you bring along a 5 gallon fuel can. Like tens of thousands of others, I bought a fully loaded Toyota RAV4 Hybrid Limited for my daily 200 mile commute. This vehicle has an advertised 580 mile range, 40 mpg, and 14.5 gallon fuel tank. All in - $47.5k. I haven’t bought a car for myself in 20 years, but I needed it because a serious accident left me disabled and in need of all the bells and whistles, and great mileage this promised. The first time I drove it to work, after 75 miles I RAN OUT OF GAS! I contacted the dealer, and shortly was being told there was a manufacturer defect which shorted the tank “a gallon or two.” This didn’t account for the 26 mpg I was getting, but they had no answer for that either. In the end, I found myself filling up the tank (which took on average 3 gallons) up to three times a day. It has ended up in the shop now for over 200 days since purchase. I don’t have my vehicle or my money back, and Toyota has argued it is operating normally and refused a buyback. Buyer beware - You’ll not only pay way more for this vehicle for more competent off-roaders, but you risk a lemon, and Toyota no longer backs their warranties on this model, as more than 90k people can attest to for the 2019 and 2020 models.
@DFDSLX0988
@DFDSLX0988 4 года назад
The fuel tank issue is isolated to the Hybrids and the tank needs to be replaced after re-engineering. Toyota is working on it. I have the ‘19 Adventure model and no issues filing up. As for off-roading, let’s not kid ourselves. These are softroaders at best like Subaru’s. Still the built rigs roaming around prove there’s value in lifting these and throwing on some better, beefier tires. If I were you, I’d hire a really good lemon law attorney (get a Jewish one) and get your money back. It’s been done. But if you think Toyota will do the buyback under warranty then you’re wasting your time.
@symmetry08
@symmetry08 4 года назад
I've got Subie Forester and that one will pass those tests easily. I had many terrain, own, experiences thru many hard places where it is somewhat passable for such vehicles and it them all. Of cause I had dents and plastic cracks at the bottom, without which, experience cannot be avoidable anyway. And it is all stock settings going through few countries and few different extreme weather spots.
@jonm.678
@jonm.678 4 года назад
More than likely, a Forester Sport would handle this a lot better. However, the Toyota TRD Rav4 looks SO much better. I love the styling.
@goodybrown5175
@goodybrown5175 4 года назад
CVT equipped Subaru or any CVT equipped vehicle fails offroad. The CVT overheats when doing light trailing/offroading and the completely cuts power. u will be going nowhere.
@4x4gear33
@4x4gear33 4 года назад
Over 42k for the name and badges. Most people will never take it off road.
@toyotabrony
@toyotabrony 4 года назад
Some people do. Because I know few rav4 owners do go off-road
@brodiwheeler7583
@brodiwheeler7583 4 года назад
You can get one of these for $35k or even a little less after discount if you don’t check every option box... this thing must have every option to get it over $42k... it’s over $500 for that 2-tone paint option alone.
@personalfunfest
@personalfunfest 3 года назад
some of us LIVE off road and this is the type of vehicle we want. No need to buy stock and mod for off road... just drive it home, done
@Steven-gv1ke
@Steven-gv1ke 4 года назад
You keep comparing the RAV4 to the Jeep Cherokee, so let's continue that... #1. The RAV4 will go easy 400k miles on the original engine and transmission. Don't expect to get half that on the Cherokee. #2. When you go to sell the RAV4 in 5 or 6 years, you will get top dollar for it. Don't expect to get even half what you paid for the Cherokee. #3. The gas mileage, and maintenance costs, are going to be significantly higher on the Cherokee versus the RAV4.
@punktexas
@punktexas 3 года назад
Come on 400k miles? I hope I never own a car that long to go that many miles in it. I don't have a horse in this race, never owned a Toyota or Jeep. That being said, the Cherokee Trailhawk is $5k cheaper and is far more off road capable. Calling that RAV4 a "TRD Off Road" is doing damage to the brand.
@robertyoung8289
@robertyoung8289 4 года назад
42k for a 30k dollar vehicle? Why? A few dollars more I'm driving a TRD pro Tacoma.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 года назад
Exactly.
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 4 года назад
Makes sense to me, I wouldn’t trade my Tacoma for that, nope
@brodiwheeler7583
@brodiwheeler7583 4 года назад
No you are several thousand dollars away from a TRD PRO TACO. I don’t know how they got this optioned to over 42k, these can be had for well under $40k very easily and nicely optioned.
@DingoZed
@DingoZed 4 года назад
@@brodiwheeler7583 Yeah, but the RAV4 gets stumped hard by the resale of the tacoma. The rav4 TRD isn't going to hold value even close to the TRD Pro.
@brodiwheeler7583
@brodiwheeler7583 4 года назад
Yuukiro Nothing can really touch the resale value of Toyota’s Truck Lineup (including the truck based SUVs)... the proposition here with the RAV is economy/efficiency and more features. Again, this $42k optioned TRD RAV is an anomaly, most of them come in at $35k-$39k before discount, good luck trying to get a discount on a TRD PRO right now.
@andrewzhuk8713
@andrewzhuk8713 4 года назад
I wish they refine the Hybrid version making it more off-road capable. I believe, it wouldn't be so hard for Toyota, as the current version is pretty good offroader. I like my hybrid having ~42 MPG combined but sometimes I wish it had better rear axel engagement when doing off-roading.
@jtalonrider4769
@jtalonrider4769 4 года назад
The xse h is more sport than off road, 42 mpg is good for me lol
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 4 года назад
i think with the bigger battery coming in the rav 4 prime its going to be better for offroad, more power to the rear electric motor
@andrewzhuk8713
@andrewzhuk8713 4 года назад
Le Chat Botté I think, Toyota could send more power to the rear axel in current hybrids. Because electricity is generated by front MGs. And all it takes to generate more electricity is to spin ICE engine faster. But maybe there are some other caveats.
@Alex_564
@Alex_564 4 года назад
Maybe a Rav4 hybrid TRD off-road?
@goodybrown5175
@goodybrown5175 4 года назад
Let's be real the hybrid was made for fuel economy...not offroading....maybe a software update in the future will help with that.
@carls2572
@carls2572 4 года назад
You guys seem to like the GX460 for off-road use and it has 8.1 inches of ground clearance. This RAV4 has an additional half inch and you are saying it’s not enough. Can you explain?
@ReimerKeith
@ReimerKeith 4 года назад
It needs a slight lift, higher profile tires (60s, really?), and a front bumper with some clearance.
@KensleyInnocent
@KensleyInnocent 3 года назад
So, they Make monster Trucks now?
@muddyh2o2init44
@muddyh2o2init44 4 года назад
Adventure is less but the TRD looks way better! Family camper with nice commuter views.
@Steven-gv1ke
@Steven-gv1ke 4 года назад
*I want to see the RAV4 TRD PRO versus the Ford Bronco Sport off-road test!*
@crsantin
@crsantin 4 года назад
This is not an off road vehicle. Dirt roads and trails that aren’t too demanding and that’s it. This is a good vehicle for harsh climates, winter commuting etc but the off road badging from Toyota is misleading.
@747-pilot
@747-pilot 4 года назад
Yes, but even the REGULAR RAV4 does that, just as well!! (I mean the non-hybrid version). So, then, what's the point of paying 10 grand more and buying this so called "TRD off road" version?? 🙄
@jiblyjably
@jiblyjably 4 года назад
Add a skid plate and give it a 3-6 inch lift and I'd say it can be called an off road vehicle
@toyotabrony
@toyotabrony 4 года назад
That’s why it’s a mild off-road small SUV. As an alternative option
@brodiwheeler7583
@brodiwheeler7583 4 года назад
TRD Dirt Road would’ve been more appropriate.
@Minsang1st
@Minsang1st 4 года назад
Brodi Wheeler or trd off pavement lol
@JackDaniels350
@JackDaniels350 4 года назад
This video draws the same conclusions I had within the past few months. Only I won’t be so forgiving and pretend like I’m torn on my final verdict and just flat out say that this is an epic fail on Toyota’s end and I find it heartbreaking. Toyota needs to tread the TRD badge like Jeep treats their trail rated badge and make it actually mean something. I’ve been in the market for off roadable crossover for the past 9 months. I’ve only ever owned Toyota’s as my primary drivers and jeeps as my secondary drivers for off roading. I don’t do anything so serious that I can continue to justify having two vehicles for just myself so I wanted to merge them together in a single vehicle and get an ATV for the real serious stuff. Even a Jeep guy like me can admit that Jeeps do have some shirt and long term reliability issues compared to Toyota, so when I heard about the new upcoming TRD version of the RAV4, I got super excited thinking that I wouldn’t have to choose between one of the trailhawks anymore. Then I showed up at the dealership where I was devastated to see a plastic skid plate, abysmal approach and departure angles and no additional ground clearance or any protection to make up for it. I hate to say it, but this is a total poser and the only TRD thing about this package is the damned price tag! Sorry Toyota, you’ve lost this buyer to a Trailhawk!
@captainstabbin9338
@captainstabbin9338 4 года назад
Absolutely. This thing is sacrilege to the TRD Off Road namesake.
@James-il3tq
@James-il3tq 4 года назад
Should have gone with a 4runner.
@JackDaniels350
@JackDaniels350 4 года назад
James if they weren’t 20some odd k (Canadian) more than the trail hawk, I would
@sammyjammy6647
@sammyjammy6647 3 года назад
For 2021 they legit added a metal skid plate. So there’s that
@EricLS
@EricLS 2 года назад
Considering the success of all the various Trailhawk models, it’s completely insane to watch all the other companies flail trying to match the capabilities of my 2014 Cherokee. Anyway I’m going to go swap the transmission cooler and wheelbearings again....
@onebackzach
@onebackzach 4 года назад
To be fair, it's not marketed as a rock crawler that's supposed to compete with the 4runner or Tacoma. I think different bumpers and skid plates would definitely make it way better, but the suspension and tires would definitely make it great for rough gravel roads. In my personal experience, I find good independent suspension and tires makes a vehicle more practical than something with low range gearing and skid plates for the average hiker/camper/mountain biker because the vast majority of "off-roading" is really just rough gravel access roads. I have never found myself high-centered or with a busted oil pan in my 2008 RAV4, but I do find myself being way more comfortable compared to riding in a friend's Jeep Wrangler on the same roads.
@coastalbeer
@coastalbeer 5 месяцев назад
We got the 2024 Rav4 LE with AWD for $31,677. Everything we need and nothing we don't ! I think with some all Terrain tires we could safely go down a primitive road and be okay. At any rate, if you really need an off road vehicle, get something with four wheel drive, seriously. All Wheel drive is not intended for the Rubicon. Btw, we love our Rav4.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 года назад
Tommy, This is at least 10 GRAND more than the FJ was. That is foolish. Toyota could sell us the basic 2 door #Prado (they sell to the rest of the world) for around 30K and it could take on any of these trails without blinking. Make mine a 2.7 with a manual please.
@niuhuskieguy
@niuhuskieguy 4 года назад
Sounds like the AWD was using more brake than actual torque vectoring. Traction control off would likely confirm if that was the case or not.
@hetspiedendoog
@hetspiedendoog 4 года назад
You should check your lights, they are blinking all the time...
@HoosierDaddy_
@HoosierDaddy_ 4 года назад
42 grand?!! There's a sucker born every minute!
@toyotabrony
@toyotabrony 4 года назад
But it’s worth spending money
@yankkesrule
@yankkesrule 4 года назад
This one has like 5k in bells and whistles that most can live without
@anthonyb2990
@anthonyb2990 4 года назад
@@yankkesrule Even $37k is about 7 grand too high. At 37k or 42k you might as well get a 4Runner TRD off road or pro
@lkae4
@lkae4 4 года назад
Anthony Burke 4Runner TRD Pro starts at $50k, will be $56k or $58k optioned similarly. That's two price segments up.
@glow4417
@glow4417 2 года назад
@@anthonyb2990 and a 4runner has 15 mpg..
@HarryJVaughn3
@HarryJVaughn3 3 года назад
Picked up my 2021 TRD for 33K. Also the 2021 comes with a front skid plate. That to me is the perfect price point. I have to say I’m enjoying it as is for now before new Bilsteins, 3” lift, KO2s, front bumper with tow hooks, winch, roof rack and KCs. 😁 I’ve owned Jeeps and 4Runners but this things drives on its toes like a little rally car. Much more fun to drive than a 4Runner. Last thing she needs is more power. Turbo charge that 4 cylinder and this thing will be a little beast. Styling is on point as well. Toyota missed some marks here but still overall a great rig!
@brittonsfireprevention3523
@brittonsfireprevention3523 2 года назад
I picked up my 22 off-road for 40 out the door and it now comes with skid plates. Small 2 in lift and some ko2s and it should take me to most campsites.
@athletejmv
@athletejmv 4 года назад
Like others have mentioned, the RAV4 is great for rough roads in a pinch, and daily driving in poor weather (rain/snow/light sand) but no where near the TRD branding for off-roading.
@stevez4286
@stevez4286 4 года назад
at the risk of taking some abuse... i just bought one of these. i cross-shopped w/ the Cherokee Trailhawk (awesome, but was concerned about reliability) and the 4Runner. the 4Runner nearly won, but i really wanted full-time 4wd for my DD, but didn't want the Limited; too much body kit and the wheels and tires are wrong. so those would be immediate additional expenses to remedy. had toyota offered, say, an SR5 w/ full-time 4wd, i probably would have gone that route. so RAV4 it is. i went w/ the Off-road because, again, i didn't want to immediately have to replace the wheels and tires. i modded my previous vehicle so much (a VW TDi), i thought it might be fun to run a stock but reasonably capable vehicle. my main use cases are winter driving and traversing hilly gravel roads and driveways, in addition to being a DD. i think this will serve me well. there's probably a 4Runner or Taco in my future anyway as a 2nd vehicle, so i'm not fussed if i can't do anything serious off-road in the RAV4. on pavement, the torque vectoring system kicks in nicely on curvy roads. even though it's a bit of a brick, it ends up feeling pretty well planted as a result. i agree it needs some underbody protection, as Tommy mentioned. it also needs some tow hooks. overall, i'm basically pleased. it is more than i would have expected to spend, but i'm also expecting to get 20+ years of reliable service out of it.
@AndrewGroat7
@AndrewGroat7 3 года назад
For that second vehicle you should look for a 4th Gen 4Runner (03-09). The v8 models came with full time 4wd, like the new limiteds. The V6 models came with a part time 4wd (2h, 4h, 4l), but with a sweet twist. If you toss it in 4h, it actually goes into a full time 4wd mode (really just awd as it has a center differential). Then you have to hit a button to lock the center diff to put it in traditional 50/50 locked 4wd. So you get the best of both worlds-standard 2wd for good highway driving and max fuel economy, an awd mode for those snowy/icy conditions, and traditional 4wd (high and low range) for off road fun!
@BaleshNTP
@BaleshNTP 4 года назад
I would also go 4Runner at that price... but I wonder how it compares to the Subaru Forester Sport which would save you like $13k
@jimgravesus
@jimgravesus 4 года назад
This isn't a vehicle for serious off roaders. This is a good vehicle for the person who lives in a state with snow, drives mostly in town and does some nature stuff on the weekends. I have a 4runner TRD pro and I love it but the gas mileage is god awful. The handling is mediocre. Still, I like to go well off the beaten track and into remote areas so it suits my needs. The 4runner is a delight when I'm deep in the rocky mountains. The RAV4 will get you through the snow and mud. It will get you to campgrounds and trail heads. It does not consume nearly as much gas as a 4runner. It is more pleasant to drive on curvy roads. 4runner has a lot of body lean but you are high up and that suits me. I'd rather have visibility over handling. Basically 4runner=Off road #1 purpose and city driving as an after thought. Rav4=City driving #1 purpose and mild off roading on the weekend.
@Lokahi-fo-life
@Lokahi-fo-life 4 года назад
As a 4Runner owner, I’d stay with a 4Runner. I hate my gas mill, but that’s the sacrifice.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 года назад
As long as people do their research before buying there is nothing to complain about with 4Runner mpg. Sooner or later a more fuel efficient 4Runner will arrive but the current model is the top choice in today's 4x4 market.
@Lokahi-fo-life
@Lokahi-fo-life 4 года назад
Right Lane Hog People can do their research and decide what they are willing to sacrifice when making their purchase. Toyota’s engine in the 4Runners have been the same for years. It’s a rock solid engine, so Toyota hasn’t seen the need to change it for a higher mpg motor.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 года назад
@@Lokahi-fo-life Exactly.
@Ricky-mo6mv
@Ricky-mo6mv 5 месяцев назад
The RAV4 with the glacier ice roof was the best look the RAV4 has ever had. It really compliments the vehicle nicely. Even more so than the black roof two tone.
@AnselmYuven01
@AnselmYuven01 4 года назад
I am confused, here is Tommy hailing the rav4 trd whilst Nathan was crucifying the same car yesterday.
@ChrisParayno
@ChrisParayno 4 года назад
Convinced
@GR-cf4qh
@GR-cf4qh 4 года назад
The first gen RAV4 was surprisingly good offroad. It wasn't a serious offroader, but it had a short enough wheelbase, enough ground clearance and good enough angles to really go places you wouldn't expect an AWD crossover to go. Current models are just AWD station wagons.
@tomtalker2000
@tomtalker2000 Год назад
I'm debating over this model and the Limited. If i go the Limited route i will DEFINITELY be putting on A/T tires. Even though i'm losing a bit of ground clearance over the TRD along with some other AWD enhancements. At least i can get navigation on the Limited which the TRD doesn't have.
@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618
@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618 4 года назад
I love the styling of the RAV4 TRD actually seen one in person yesterday however I believe that the Subaru is probably much more capable my Chevy Astro all wheel drive has a rear locking diff and all terrain tires
@goodybrown5175
@goodybrown5175 4 года назад
Subaru lost its credentials the second it stuffed CVT everywhere.
@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618
@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618 4 года назад
@@shitloveaduck I absolutely agree it's a Jeep and doesn't it have a rear Locker
@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618
@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618 4 года назад
@@goodybrown5175 that's true I'm going back to the old days before the cvts though
@xray111xxx
@xray111xxx 4 года назад
Tommy, you hurt the RAV-4. Well, that is 4x4'ing. This is still a cute ute. It is quite good, but looking at the approach and departure angles and your breakover. It needs more clearance and better tires. This car is compromise still because it needs to be nice on road and off road. Nice to see you put the RAV-4 through its paces. Hope you and your Dad and Nathan and the gang are staying safe!
@stevendensmore7653
@stevendensmore7653 4 года назад
Kinda impressed by the Rav, lift and skid plates and it would be a fairly capable rig.
@penvon
@penvon 4 года назад
Steven Densmore exactly!!! I have a the trail (adventure) & I already have a metal skid plate on that,just waiting on some wheels & tires & im set
@Niloc1922
@Niloc1922 4 года назад
Steven Densmore You’d need bigger tires too. Lifting doesn’t change clearance of important bits without bigger tires.
@stevendensmore7653
@stevendensmore7653 4 года назад
@@Niloc1922 if you watched the video you would see the only problem was the front wasn't high enough so a lift would help that.
@Niloc1922
@Niloc1922 4 года назад
@@stevendensmore7653 I watched it. The problem is even if you get the front end raised the differential would scrape. Toyota probably designed it to be low so people don't get stuck on obstacles.
@JackDaniels350
@JackDaniels350 4 года назад
A lift and skid plates? At that price point and carrying the TRD badge, it’s absolutely inexcusable to have to venture into the aftermarket for either! I’m not the least bit impressed.
@franciscogonzalez1472
@franciscogonzalez1472 Год назад
I got a 2021 Rav4 Adventure and is great not so expensive and very capable for the use i need it, and of course for me is the best design of all in his segment! Thanks for the info!
@Soh90
@Soh90 4 года назад
Been waiting for a TRD Off Road review. Thanks for being the first to make it happen. Physical stats notwithstanding, the TRD Off Road seems very capable. Though it is very pricy. does the Adventure trim and TRD Off Road trim have the same AWD system and differential? If so I can just get the Adventure trim and put on slightly more aggressive tires and make it work.
@ABSVabeautifulsunsetvlog
@ABSVabeautifulsunsetvlog 4 года назад
Yes, they’re the exact same car minus the suspension (the adventure suspension is more than adequate as I’ve taken mine off road on both dirt and rock trails) and the wheels/tires...The wheels on the adventure are 19 inch and while they look awesome it’s been hard to find a beefy tire that’ll fit on that wheel so I’ll have to sell the rims if I ever want to go with a meatier tire setup. Falken does sell the wildpeak that will fit but the sidewall is obviously not that beefy since it’s going on a 19 inch wheel. Other than those things though they’re the exact same car. And with the 0% financing that Toyota is doing right now for up to five years you could score a really good monthly payment on a 2020 adventure.
@DB-nt1gl
@DB-nt1gl 4 года назад
If this is an off road vehicle SKID PLATES & GROUND CLEARANCE IS A MUST!!!
@ascendantrobin3230
@ascendantrobin3230 4 года назад
all these crossovers are marketed as “AWD” “adventure ready” whatever, and yet we still see these long, low, overhanging bumpers, terrible approach angles, no underbody protection and modest ground clearance. I get it, aerodynamics, weight, center of gravity play an important role in efficiency and on road stability, but i think some buyers in the crossover segment are more interested in 4WD function and durability than fuel economy. My ‘15 nissan rogue front end will scrape a curb if its too high, ridiculous! my ‘04 grand cherokee was unstoppable! Awesome, thorough video, well done Tommy!
@SDMTB14
@SDMTB14 4 года назад
For 99% of siatuations the AWD system of most vehicles is pretty capable. The problem is the lack of ground clearance, oversized front bumpers and in some cases the CVT transmission.
@deemfingtee
@deemfingtee 4 года назад
I bought those tires for my forester and have also added skid plates. A bit of a lift would help, but it is fine for lumpy trails.
@rainschris
@rainschris 4 года назад
As always, great video, Tommy. I especially appreciated your comparison to the hybrid with the footage included. Thanks
@insomniacryan9916
@insomniacryan9916 4 года назад
What a total embarrassment. Toyota could maybe get away with slapping a TRD Sport badge on there, at best, but TRD Offroad? Just no. When Jeep decided to make their little crossovers off-road, they did it right. Even the tiny Renegade Trailhawk will give a trail a good solid try. This RAV4 is not even trying. 42 thousand dollars? You have got to be kidding. Bad show, Toyota.
@andrewsmith1655
@andrewsmith1655 4 года назад
Need to do a TRD Rav-4 vs Renegade Trailhawk!
@tonymartucci7097
@tonymartucci7097 4 года назад
Good review. Toyota fan here, but own a Cherokee trail hawk. I don’t think anything competes with the Trailhawk for off-road ability at that price. I’ve taken mine everywhere my friends TRD tundra goes. And the Cherokee can tow 7k with trailer package. MSRP on mine was 36k, nego much lower. I know, no toyo reliability, but no issues @60k.
@gffriedman
@gffriedman 4 года назад
Looks like a better Outback/Forester. Seems like a real candidate for best in class outdoorsy winter capable crossover. On the other hand, I bought a 4Runner TRD ORP for less than 40k
@davva360
@davva360 4 года назад
Summary, 4 wheel drive system does pretty well but it just lacks ground clearance. I don't think many people would buy.a Rav 4 to go off road.
@rubenbraekman4515
@rubenbraekman4515 4 года назад
True that, but Toyota improved loads with this car over the previous gen, those AWD systems just had 2 open diffs and once you lost traction it was game over...
@Frencho9
@Frencho9 4 года назад
To be worthy of the TRD badge, the next 2021 model needs to: Rework the front bumper to get a better angle of attack, the grill protrudes too much. Lift it up 0.2 inches. The combination of these to should increase ground clearance from 8.6 inches to 8.8 to 9 inches depending on AoA. Add metal skid plates on the undercarriage. And they better not increase the price one cent after adding these basic offroad improvement. How cheap can toyota be to forgo skid plates on a TRD, that's ESSENTIAL! I'd rather pick the Adventure model, and spend 2.500 USD difference on skid plates and real offroad tires.
@tritchie6272
@tritchie6272 4 года назад
So should Toyota give it a 1 inch lift,or 2? Then Aluminum or steel skid plate?
@tmmsplace
@tmmsplace 4 года назад
No doubt a crossover CUV is ideal for a dirt trail. I’ve taken the 2009 RAV4 4 cylinder on trails in the Wasatch. This doesn’t appear to be an improvement, just more tech and big overhang.
@meatbeansandcheese
@meatbeansandcheese 4 года назад
This is basically just a lifted Toyota Camry on the same architecture. I would take the Camry AWD any day of the week and not pay the CUV premium.
@mikec3454
@mikec3454 4 года назад
If you want off-road worthy goodies in this segment, you get the Cherokee Trailhawk. I'd take it over the Rav4 TRD all day long. Locking rear, 4WD transfer case, better angles I'm sure, etc.
@keithtoews401
@keithtoews401 4 года назад
I do agree but thinking about adding on the lpadventure skid plates and their lift kit it quotes the vechicle after adding on the lift kit and metal skid plates for 10.6 inches of ground clearance
@AndrewGroat7
@AndrewGroat7 3 года назад
I can see a market for skid plates for this vehicle, as well as a metal piece that replaces that lower plastic fascia that Tommy scratched. Do that, and it will be perfectly adequate to run most forest service roads.
@JusticeGamingChannel
@JusticeGamingChannel 4 года назад
Good tests, I want to see what this TRD Offroad version can do in the snow, light and deep, maybe circle back around to it in the winter and try it out?
@KeenVanguard
@KeenVanguard 4 года назад
2020 TRD RAV4 Vs 2020 Subaru Crosstrek PLEASE!! I do have a 2019 Subaru Crosstrek so I am bias
@Fineonee
@Fineonee 4 года назад
with a $20,000 difference. 2021 crosstrek with the 2.5 😃
@jtr990
@jtr990 4 года назад
I wouldn't bank on it. Subaru blacklisted TFL back in 2014 or 2015 because of paint damage.
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 4 года назад
I had a Crosstrek. The 8-spd. trans. in the RAV4 is by far a better option than the CVT in the Subarus. The CVT just can't put the power down to the ground properly for any serious hill climb or off-camber situations. Also, their approach angle is even worse than the RAV4.
@gregdimas3011
@gregdimas3011 4 года назад
Yeah but the Crosstrek uses a JATCO CVT so eliminated, and they tested that Crosstrek here... the CVT would not allow it!
@Fineonee
@Fineonee 4 года назад
Greg Dimas I believe you are incorrect about Jatco being used. The Rav is definitely more capable in this situation but marketed as a TRD and over $40k there are better options out there if this is your expectation. Subarus can do a lot more than some give them credit for. That being said don’t go buy one thinking it can climb these types of hills. After spinning all seasons and switching to these same Falkens my Outback hasn’t let me down yet.
@cpear760
@cpear760 4 года назад
Against the Cherokee, I'm going back to FCA for this one. For the points Tommy mentioned, and that TABLET DASH 😠! Digging the wheels though.
@ABSVabeautifulsunsetvlog
@ABSVabeautifulsunsetvlog 4 года назад
Honestly the adventure wheels look better than the trd. You can upgrade to a set of falken wild peaks on your adventure and you’ve basically got the same car. The difference in the suspension systems is marginal at best. I’m going to go that route on mine and am thrilled that I saved a ton of money.
@MP_-ek8ij
@MP_-ek8ij 4 года назад
What happens with the manufacturer when you damage one of their vehicles? Great video by the way. Just curious as, I know accidents happen
@attnielthomas7856
@attnielthomas7856 3 года назад
What damage.! I swear it came like that, just took it through the car wash to remove pollen. I didn't take it off road.
@jessebrinker3706
@jessebrinker3706 3 года назад
He fixed it by throwing rocks at it.
@MP_-ek8ij
@MP_-ek8ij 3 года назад
@@attnielthomas7856 haha
@MP_-ek8ij
@MP_-ek8ij 3 года назад
@@jessebrinker3706 lol 😂
@jimmybanuelos4666
@jimmybanuelos4666 4 года назад
Sr5 4x4 has low range already just buy that. Yeah gas isn’t the best but still Sr5 is way more capable stock
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 года назад
Agreed.
@mahhty4279
@mahhty4279 2 года назад
Would've been nice if it had a front TRD skid plate and at least a fuel tank one with a locking diff or just a-trac
@amandataebby
@amandataebby 3 года назад
I don't even purposefully drive off road, but I watch these kinds of reviews because the regular roads where I live are so horrible that I need a good off roader lol the potholes here are moon craters
@christiantaboada
@christiantaboada 3 года назад
Not worth having the TRD logo slapped in it. Just by the standard Rav at a much lower price or buy the trailhawk which is much better with the diff lock or the 4Runner which is just shy of that price as you said.
@junehhan
@junehhan 4 года назад
The pricing just makes absolutely no sense. $43k can buy so much more capable vehicles. Even a stock 4Runner is going to be far more capable. $43k may even be able to buy a decently equipped Bronco when it comes out. However for people who have to have a Rav4 but wants more capability, this is your niche vehicle. If they were to price this at or under $40k, it would be far more competitive price wise. I do love the styling of this which looks so much better than the normal Rav4.
@Central-Scrutinizer
@Central-Scrutinizer 4 года назад
Toyota needs to make an affordable lifted Corolla Cross with true 4wd, the 170 hp 2.0 and the 6mt with a crawler first gear. Make something capable and fuel friendly that people aren’t afraid to scratch!
@PADILLAJ03L
@PADILLAJ03L 2 года назад
I would like to see this Rav4 testing in Snow with the snow mode
@van7059
@van7059 4 года назад
The real question for the TRD Rav4 is can it get the groceries and cruise the malls?
@Emerald_Night
@Emerald_Night 4 года назад
Nah, the ground clearance isn't good enough.
@CelestialTrailblazer
@CelestialTrailblazer 3 года назад
It doesn't matter if it has the finest off-road specific tuned suspension/drive train, for real off-roading you will need at least 9.5-10 inches of ground clearance.
@kurtwuerfele3065
@kurtwuerfele3065 Год назад
Seriously fantastic review - worth every minute of my time. Thank you, and subscribed! I’m totally onboard with the Adventure after watching this! I think an aftermarket 2” lift would be a great improvement.
@mike_wellington_
@mike_wellington_ 2 года назад
Hope they make one in a PRIME version. Would sell instantly.
@panzr110
@panzr110 4 года назад
4 passengers and full of gear could greatly affect this review. That 4 cylinder is too weak in my opinion.
@collingodbey3737
@collingodbey3737 4 года назад
The 8 speed with the 2.5 liter is actually suprisingly adequate.
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 4 года назад
@@collingodbey3737 same whit the 1.6 my Berg electric go kart would fly up that hill why can't car companies do they same
@FrankySilverFace
@FrankySilverFace 4 года назад
This engine has surprising power just off idle. Welcome to the 21st century.
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 4 года назад
@@FrankySilverFace yes those NA Toyota engines are pretty powerful for there size we had a 1.6 before and it had no problem pulling a heavy trailer up the hill full of turf
@rubenbraekman4515
@rubenbraekman4515 4 года назад
Bruh, I go offroading with my 1.2l 3cyl NA Peugeot 2008... I can fly through trails, sometimes my friend in his 1996 range rover can't even keep up 😂
@alp21188
@alp21188 4 года назад
Pretty decent for light off road fun. I wouldn’t mind purchasing one if I get an extraordinarily good deal. But I also have to agree with everyone about the TRD Off road being used on a car that’s not as capable as the TRD versions of the Tacoma and 4 runner or even Cherokee or grand Cherokee Trailhawk. Heck I don’t even think it’s any more capable than a grand Cherokee Laredo or base Cherokee. However if they would have labeled it as TRD 4sno and dirt it would have been far more acceptable. However With that being said this particular model with the suspension and tire upgrades despite the badging is the best rav4 available and would probably be better received if it wasn’t priced like a baby Benz
@MoY206
@MoY206 4 года назад
That torque vectoring is impressive. Thinking about getting this for my last now.
@XterraRob
@XterraRob 4 года назад
I have the 2019 Rav4 Adventure...and spent 600 bucks to put the Falkens on after I bought it. My wife hasn't let me take her car off road yet though...but I'm still working on that :)
@ColoradoMartini
@ColoradoMartini 4 года назад
So glad you took me up on joining the Colorado RU-vidrs. It is nice to have community
@michaeljuliano5716
@michaeljuliano5716 4 года назад
42k ?? I was just quoted 35k 0% APR fully loaded RAV4 TRD in good ol' Colorado. Thinking about doing it and adding a 2.5 inch lift. Maybe even a skid plate. My concern was more so the power since it only has 205hp. It wasn't a dog but it wasn't too zippy either. If not the Rav than a used (2018) Tacoma Pro but I'm not too stoked on using that as a daily driver with its low mpg. It's also much less comfy for that daily drive or any kind or road trip. You also can't really sleep in it. Decisions, decisions.
@rrudydedogg3779
@rrudydedogg3779 4 года назад
I bet the aftermarket is already working on a lift kit and proper skid plates for this RAV4.
@kevinlogan2306
@kevinlogan2306 4 года назад
Why putting lipstick on a pig
@einfelder8262
@einfelder8262 4 года назад
Toyota certainly must have made you a good offer for this glowing review. The TURD RAV4 should have a rear locker and a centre diff lock - but wait - it's a FWD bias, wtf? Foot flat to the floor for zero movement up a gentle slope is a massive negative. Overpriced junk, for mine.
@davidrichard451
@davidrichard451 4 года назад
it would be nice to see how a Mitsubishi outlander off road. it's in the cheaper suv class. and it has super all wheel control. it would be nice to know if you get what you pay for.
@nvrdwn3140
@nvrdwn3140 4 года назад
Good old Toyota always doing fearless than any other manufacturer at making their vehicle an offroader.
@ReimerKeith
@ReimerKeith 4 года назад
The $42K can be dropped by over 5K if you don't take the stereo and technology options. Shave off a couple thousand below list and this could be a $33K vehicle - still pricey when compared to an SR5 4Runner in the same price range.
@goodybrown5175
@goodybrown5175 4 года назад
let's be real....skip the sr5 4runner...its either TRD offroad or PRO
@ReimerKeith
@ReimerKeith 4 года назад
@@goodybrown5175 True, but a little pricier.
@tallll70
@tallll70 4 года назад
torque vectoring is very nice, probably best implemented in sh awd, but not quiet tough enough for rocks and deep holes where it usually burns clutches
@karamich75
@karamich75 4 года назад
The ground clearance in this one seems just like my Mitsubishi Outlander 2016 AWC. My Outlander does not have the bells and whistles of this Rav4 and it does not pretend to be an off-road version either but with the KO2 tires I installed on it for the outdoor adventures on rough trails, it does exactly what this (way more expensive Rav4) does on this trail. And I don't have any fancy AWD adjustments (Only Auto and Lock). But both my Outlander and this Rav4 are not meant to be in this environment thanks to the stylish plastic in the front and back... I can't wait to see Toyota revamping the 4Runner for better fuel economy or even better a hybrid version...
@brandonlaswiss1037
@brandonlaswiss1037 3 года назад
Tommy TFL will have to get a Toyota RAV4 TRD Off Road & Ford Bronco Sport Badlands & Jeep Compass Trailhawk & GMC Terrain AT4 too See Who Builds the best Off Road Crossover
@RoverRacer913
@RoverRacer913 4 года назад
"Kyle Busch would still be....stuck in the bushes!" 😂 good one tommy
@RyanRKJ
@RyanRKJ 4 года назад
Yeah, I laughed out lout for that one!
@nobodyisprfct
@nobodyisprfct 2 года назад
Thank you, Tommy. I had no idea Rav4 had a trd option. Now i will be looking at Rav4 trd vs subaru wilderness off road.
@penvon
@penvon 4 года назад
Having my breakfast to this 😀
@JJ-ls7fq
@JJ-ls7fq 4 года назад
Whatcha havin'?
@penvon
@penvon 4 года назад
J J What did I have,bowl of blueberries,strawberries,sliced bananas, 1 toasted bagel & cup of mint tea....Today just a bowl of cereal.
@JJ-ls7fq
@JJ-ls7fq 4 года назад
@@penvon well, that sounds delightful. Fresh fruit, yum.
@penvon
@penvon 4 года назад
J J yup 👍😃
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