Does The Bible Teach That Women Should Submit??? -- Voddie Baucham 

Everyone needs this kind of courage to say what everyone is afraid to hear!

another idiot using the word "truth" when it's made up nonsense. This is not what truth means...

We all have access to the truth through the Holy Spirit. Does the Holy Spirit dish that truth out differently for men and women?

@@robertdouglas8895 Certainly not.

fair enough, but what if you didn't submit to Christ? Would your wife still submit to you?

@@user-xw1zr5gy2d That's a legitimate question, and a very good one. In matters of everyday household and life concerns, she would 100% submit to me, however, she would not submit to me in matters of spiritual things.

@@user-xw1zr5gy2d 100% yes. My wife is a happily, submissive wife, and is in no way a doormat or a pushover. I treat my wife with love, kindness, and respect, always. "Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives." 1 Peter 3:1-2

It does say "submit to one another in the fear of the Lord" (ie the saints, those that make up the Body of Yeshua the Messiah, His Church) however.

@@Ike-un6mc i believe he said that part encompasses the follow up verses....submit to one another, as in...wives submit to husbands, children submit to parents, slaves submit to masters, everyone has someone they need to submit to....in fear of the Lord.....for order....is that not so?

@@elle_l808l submit yourselves to one another is addressed to the whole Body of Yeshua, His Church, the saints and pertains to mutual submission in service to one another, which reveals our reverence (fear) of Yahweh, who commands that we Agape Love one another through our beneficial service to one another, as exemplified by Yeshua theMessiah, who laid down His life for us, His flock as the Good Shepherd.

@@elle_l808l exactly. They kinds of submission he's talking about are explained immediately afterwards. Not everybody to everybody

Women are to submit to her Husband her head. 😊Father God, Lord Jesus Christ, Husband, Wife, Children🎉

Amen

That takes away nothing from the other verses and does not mean a wife can choose to disobey just because he husband puts it over her head. “Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;” (1 Peter 3:1)

And this person chooses to interject their personal opinion.

There are men who mistreat their wives and take advantage of the submission verse and there are wives who do not submit to their husbands and quote that husbands should live with their wives in an understanding way. Both are wrong and focusing on one feels like it’s negating the other.

@10Sethg absolutely. I cannot agree with you more. Marriage is a two way street. I've been married for 47 years and I always remember what a young office peer said to me. He asked me why are you getting married and we chatted a bit but he said one thing so profound I have never forgotten it. He said if you are getting married for what you can get out of it the don't get married. It will fail. He said if you get married for what you can put into the marriage it will always last.

And Jesus doesn't submit to us either.

@@bobbyadkins6983 also a good point. If the husband is symbolizing Christ, he can't submit to his wife

@@bobbyadkins6983 also a good point. If the husband is symbolizing Christ, he can't submit to his wife

We've all witnessed parents submitting to their children and its consequences: bratty, insolent, smart aleck, spoiled.

If the husband symbolise Christ ,then the Wife submission,is directly related ,to how he treat her , care for her ,respect her , sacrifices himself for her ,for it's written that we love him because he loved us ( the church ,his bride ) first,he suffered everything for her ,empowered her with the holy Spirit,Wife submission is not free of charge or automatic,it's triggered by the loving kindness , It's a military word but your home isn't a military camp , Christianity power is held in leadership ( exemple as Chris did ,he is the role model ) not in command pointing for others to do in an authoritative manner.of some unholy men .But love is the most excellent path to walk in .

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Beautifully said! =)

On and when Jesus led he rebuked his disciples included Paul called him Satan. So leading is not always the way a woman might want it. This day in age woman are not shame faced as the Bible says they should be. 1Timothy 2:9-15

​@@mikegee8595Jesus did not call Paul, Satan

Really really stupid

Man and woman were created equal. When god gave Adam authority over the woman it was delegation of authority. In any relationship whether corporate or social , when there is a decision to be made where people do not agree only one can make it. But! With that authority comes the responsibility for making that decision, because it also affects other people in the case of family.

1tim2 11.15

that was a curse totally irrelevant she wanted him to bring her food and shelter keep her from being raped This submission is willful in God's Order

Ephesians says husbands love your wives as Christ loves the church and gave His life for it. God rules over everyone but in love , never forcing himself on others just because He can. Ephesians 5:25-33. So the verse in Genesis doesn’t mean men are superior to women, women are of lower social status , because of God sending Jesus Christ. On the surface that seems simple but when you start delving into it, it ain’t simple and men folk and women folk better stop worrying about whether the other gender is doing what they are told and start worrying about whether they are doing what they are told.

submission has obedience you can't submit if you can't obey, if you are a christian you can't submit yourself to God if you dont want to obey him same for husband and wife. Wife must submit to husband in everything Ephesians 5:22-24 22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. 1 Peter 3:6 Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, 2 when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. 3 Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. 4 Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight. 5 For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves. They submitted themselves to their own husbands, 6 like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her lord. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.

Agreed

It’s a copyright thing and a RU-vid demand. They have to do something to change the video from it’s original. So they add music. The other option is something like altering his voice or speeding up the video. It’s not a desire they have it’s a RU-vid thing.

Who cares?//@@shellygrant4905

Who cares?

Who cares?

I think they are addressing the song choice more than the fact that music is playing, ​@shellygrant4905. The song does sound mismatched for the video and more appropriate for dudes gearing up to do dude stuff.

Agreed

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Submission is a posture, the same as humility. Wives are called to default to submitting to their husbands. Biblically they are not called to submit to good husbands, or wise husbands. There is no qualifier other than to submit to their own husband. The only time wives should not submit to their husbands is when it would be sin. If the scripture gave a qualifier then it wouldn't be hard to apply it to every instance. I have listened to teaching that husbands have to meet a certain standard before they should expect their wives to submit to their leadership and I hate it with a passion. Jumping through all the hoops of being patient, being kind, being understanding, setting the example, only to find that your wife still won't submit to your leadership is toxic. Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord otherwise you are in sin.

Men who are controlling always makes the statement that they are allowed to be any type of human that they choose and woman are to bow to them in submission. That is of Satan not of God. Your own words speaks to your mind set. It is written, why are you concerned with the speck in your brothers eye when you have a log in yours. Remove the log from yours then you will have time to worry and concern yourself with the spec in your brothers. It should be noted that no one, even yourself, would not want to be under the leadership of someone who is a tyrant. The word of God does not allow a man to make his wife his slave. It is written that a man should treat his wife as Christ treated the church. You might want to consider that your wife, if that’s whom you were indicating, will not submit to you because of your attitude and your behavior. The Bible was talking about a godly man because a worldly man does not believe in God anyway. You should not expect a woman to do what scripture says when you will not do according to scripture. If a person cannot lead a woman to Christ, if a person is not willing to take on the role of a Godly man and behave according to the Gods will then don’t quote scripture to get your authority. As a whole quoting scripture to get authority and power and not bow your head and bend your knee to all mighty is about selfish ambition. This is a travesty. Abuse of scripture for your own gain is also a sin. The Bible is clear on gods expectation. Yours and minds doesn’t matter. Remember there is accountability. Satan twisted the word and will be held accountable. Anyone reading the holy scripture should be scare and convicted not to use the scripture to abuse GODS children.. People should never think they are immune to the wrath of God. Wake up call, NONE ARE.

@10Sethg I agree

You'd be wrong cause a spouse is both. Is not Israel God's special "possession?" That's in context of the covenant which is symbolized by marriage. God already owns everything

“Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;” (1 Peter 3:1) Yet, here is Peter, lead by the Spirit, telling wives to listen to bad husbands...

Come on now. So if you have a bad husband, obviously not obeying God, you don’t sub,it to Him. Do you have discernment!

@@Shawney-jf6kc this is misleading and therefore false. If a husband is disobedient to the Lord , the wife must still submit to him. 1 Corinthians 7 says so explicitly. You can only refuse to do something he says if that very thing is a sinful action. If you will hate him, and hate is a sin, but he told you to clean the sink, you do not have the right to refuse.

@@Shawney-jf6kc Sara literally went into the arms of another man because she listened to Abraham and she is an example of what women should be. “For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.” (1 Peter 3:5-6)

Colossians 3:23-24!

Right

agreed

Never

Agreed, some delusional man-child trying to be cool.

Amen. It is distracting and it makes it difficult to hear what Voddie is saying.

Husband still must love his wife even if she doesn't submit...but we don't like to mention that part at all

@@BabeDmoney. A husband should only have to live his wife “if she is worthy of it”, too. Right?

He also doesn’t care about the background music … sheesh 🙄

Must have been tedious for a band to follow Jesus and play the music to set the atmosphere for His next teaching or miracle. Wait, churches do that today...

Mary Todd Lincoln? I disagree

@@jamin1632 She's dead

Look in the description

Know a tree by fruit it bares. Money not a fruit in creation when a KINGDOM of HEAVEN be at HAND.

For it is easier to take camel make a thread out of it. melt steal into a needle and thread it with the camel. Then to get a rich man to enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

Listen to the original

It means EXACTLY as he is teaching don’t stop with submission … you’re focusing on that word too much! I love when it tells men to treat their wives as Christ loved the Church … that is a much heavier load to carry!

1 Corinthians 11

What you are talking about is exceptions to the general principle. Just because there are exceptions doesn't mean the principle doesn't exist.

@@armsracer8273 Anyone using the line of reasoning like the guy above you did is very confused. Wives are submit in "all things", however, Scripture never conflicts with itself therefore when God says, "don't sin" we must reconcile the meaning to be a balance here. Perhaps for people who really are bad at understanding this specific piece of Scripture, they need to be hit over the head with an extra statement, "Wives submit to your husbands in everything...that isn't a sin, because duh." But many of married life's decisions come with no guidance from the Spirit nor 'right or wrong' Scripture to justify it. A husband wants to buy a tomato and the wife wants to buy a pear, they have not enough money to buy both. Do they buy neither and keep their money? Do they argue until they can't speak in the middle of the store? Do they buy a potato since they can't agree? No, the wife submits (surely after giving her opinion as to why the pear is the preferable choice) and says, "Ok husband, if you think the tomato is the better choice then I support your decision....and then they both move. on. together. There's no Bible passage saying pears are evil nor one saying tomatoes are a poor choice...and I highly doubt the Spirit will tell you which to buy. At most, I'd guess the Spirit would guide the wife to submit to her husband...This isn't complicated stuff, but it is difficult to accept because submission requires humility and humans are prideful creatures.

Bro, Voddie literally just went over the scripture and explained it clearly. The scripture doesn't say that wives aren't allowed to have opinions or they are not allowed to influence their husbands. It says they are to submit to their husbands. The husband will stand before God and give an account of his marriage in a way that the wife won't. The husband is called to lead well and in and understanding way and the wife is tasked with submitting to that leadership. Anything less is sin.

@@10Sethg If both are listening to the Holy Spirit, there will be no difference of opinion. The submission is to God, not a human.

@@robertdouglas8895 If what you are saying is true then there was no need to write 95% of the new testament because the apostles and churches all had the Holy spirit and there would have been no difference of opinion. But the apostles did write to the churches about many things including instruction on relationships between wives and husbands, servants and masters, children and parents. Are you married? If so, it will be no surprise to you that your wife and you will have different opinions on almost everything. I would also make a distinction between moral matters and matters of opinion. I doubt that 2 Christians married to each other are going to come to different conclusions on adultery or murder. You could have different opinions on which church to go to, what to wear to church, how to teach your kids, where to eat, etc...Situations where you don't choose between right and wrong but between 2 different options. In those cases, the husband makes the final decision because that is the way God designed marriage.

@@10Sethg When you decide that you will differ on everything, then you will. Ask and you shall receive.

​@@robertdouglas8895But why would you intentionally decide that?

You know that’s NOT what he was talking about; don’t even go there 🙄🙄

That's not a being with two heads. It's conjoined twins, meaning two people that should have been separate by all laws of nature but are not. You know this, so why do you choose to find offence where there is none?

@@93Wande hmmm…you presume to know what I know. That’s equally offensive. If you wanted to point something out you have every right to do so but you can’t presume what I know. I also have a right to my opinion.

@lapassurs5383 I didn't presume anything 😂 You literally stated "twins born this way" when you said finding something with two heads to kill. I responded to what YOU said, not what i presumed. And seriously, will you find everything offensive at the end of the day? The word is beginning to lose its meaning with your overuse. Reread your initial comment. Nothing I said was out of scope.

​@@93Wande You are correct. It's a poor analogy.

No excuse to defy what the Bible commands.

​@@kardiognostesministries8150 That applies to BOTH men and women.

@@kimm.8224 No, it doesn't. The wife is to fear (φοβῆται) her husband (Ephesians 5:33). This is never commanded of the husband in reference to his wife.

@@kardiognostesministries8150 You said there is no excuse to defy what the Bible commands. I agree with that. Likewise, husbands have no excuse to defy what the Bible commands either. And husbands are instructed to love their wives like Christ loved the church and not mistreat their wives.

@@kardiognostesministries8150 So are you trying to say that abusive, neglectful husbands have an excuse to defy the word of God and hate, mistreat, neglect and abusive their wives? That's not Biblical. I agree that there is no excuse to defy what the Bible commands. That applies to BOTH men and women. Men are not exempt from obeying what the Bible commands for husbands.

All the scripture is the word of God 2 tim 3:16

Then throw the Bible away. The epistles and Acts of the Apostles are nothing more than words and their writings hold no bearing, according to you. Since Paul went out to the Gentiles, his words are vain. Hope you're a Jew. Plus, Jesus spoke to the Jews first. Leaves the Gentiles hanging on nothing because Jesus did not go out among the Gentiles. Lastly, Jesus preceeded Paul. He said nothing of the six million slaves in the Roman Empire, said nothing of the gays, nothing against the ruthless government.

Paul unequivocally stated in 1 Cor. 14 that the commands ultimately come from God. So yes, it is the gospel of Christ because there is a government involved. Christ preached the Kingdom of God(Mar. 1:14), and every kingdom has a government and a set of laws. God's Kingdom is no different. Contrary to what "Christianity" thinks, the fake messages that are centered around Christ is NOT the gospel He preached!

Galatians 1 11-24 Paul did not publish his opinion but his words were the teachings from Christ himself.... I suggest you read and study the scripture to show yourself approved

Why don't you teach everybody the "right way" since you are the expert on the Koines Greek langauge?

How? Please explain

Great! The grammatical structure is called Ellipsis. It's a common part of almost any language and the correct methodical translation of one language into another. The FACT is that the verb IS borrowed from the verse before. He glosses over this and does nothing to explain why Paul would phrase it this way. He simply says "military term so in MY understanding of the military it can't be both ways". But Greek words often have multiple contexts. He simply focused on the military one because it confirmed his already entrenched position. At the very least Humility would say "look there is some grammatical evidence for what this other group saying, I just can't land in the same place because given the information I see, I come to a different conclusion". Instead we get "NOPE MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY". Debate or disagreement on the nuances of scripture and the original languages isn't a problem for me, it's "my interpretation is the only one" in those particular cases where the Bible doesn't give us that level of precision... and Voddie is a great teacher sometimes, but this isn't a strong argument in it's substance. And let me be clear, I don't hate Voddie or the group he most commonly associates with, but just as vehemently as he takes issue with particular things, when I see scriptural evidence that takes a different position than Voddie, I'll be equally as loving but vehement in my disagreement with his position -- bc it is just that, his position, and just because Voddie says it, does not equate it with God's word. Not everybody seems to realize that. if you agree with him, by all means do what you believe is right before the Lord, but don't demonize folks who have a scriptural basis for a different practice. @@n9wff​

@@SeanShineYouth What is YOUR interpretation of these verses? First, translating from one language to another is no perfect art. Second, none of us were there when Paul wrote his epistles. Thus, the "best" way to make these translations from one language to another is to hope to understand the author. We can try but can we convey his spirit at the very time of his writings? Maybe but we can at least attempt to do so. I don't believe we can perfect this art. Bias will play a part in it as well. As long as someone finds ways to even slightly change or add to a word's definition, all mankind does is bring a little more confusion. Bible translations are doing that in our age. We do have to try to find what is the correct interpretation of the Word of God, even as many will say "my interpretation." Doctrine tends to persuade believers as well. I blame seminaries for this bias in their teachings. My two cents.

You're right on with the seminary thing, but I think if we're honest all of us have some kind of bias. The question is whether we've examined it in light of scripture, been willing to let the Bible change us, and if we come to different position on interpreting scripture we should attempt to be as objective and gracious as possible, and honor those who have different interpretations as long as they've actually done their homework to back it up. I realize that this can be mis-perceived as me making allowance for "anything goes" but that's really not what I mean. This isn't always the case, but most often it's apparent when someone's goal is to "entrench" their view or twist scripture to fit their view...This is different (and often in observable ways) than someone who has genuinely studied the scripture and come to a different conclusion based on objective observations of original languages or context. To me, I can honor and appreciate the latter as brothers and sisters who I disagree with and not "false prophets". I rarely see the same grace from folks who run in Voddies crew, and to hear him speak so dismissively of a valid Biblical study of the original language without offering a substantive alternative to why the Greek grammar is constructed the way it factually is, and simultaneously not offer the gracious humility of saying "I can see why they might interpret it this way but I ultimately disagree" is disappointing... that's really what I'm getting at. Grace to you by the way. My issue is with the content and disappointment with the lack of Grace I see, more than picking a fight with anybody! @@n9wff

No, I think he was saying we should charge money to see them!

😂😂😂😂🤡 you obviously don't know what either of them say faker

@@CarmenCastille You mean..it is obvious you don’t know what either of them said..faker!

And Peter (1 Peter 3).

@@kardiognostesministries8150 Sorry..I submit to NoOne but Jesus. I will submit to No Man. That is breaking the first and second commandments of God.

@@kathleenwharton2139 And yet God commands the wife to submit to her husband (Ephesians 5:24). Thus, you do not submit to Jesus because He loves what Ephesians 5:24 teaches. You don't need to tell me you are sorry. Tell that to God in that you defy what He has commanded.