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Does the CHEQUERS’ RING show a portrait of ANNE BOLEYN AND ELIZABETH I? Elizabeth I’s jewellery 

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Does the famous CHEQUERS’ RING show a double portrait of Elizabeth I and Anne Boleyn, her mother? Certainly it is widely accepted as being one of the few pieces of Elizabeth I’s jewellery collection to have survived the centuries, but debate continues to rage as to whether this mother of pearl locket ring, which has a capital E picked out in diamonds on its front and rubies decorating its band, actually open up shows Henry VIII’s second Queen, or if the woman depicted alongside Queen Elizabeth is someone else important in Gloriana’s life. Perhaps it is her step-mother, Catherine Parr, some commentators say, or her governess Kat Ashley (or Astley), or even a young Elizabeth Tudor herself? In this Tudor history documentary from History Calling I’ll take you through the known history of the ring, who might have given it to Elizabeth and why it is and isn’t likely that the second sitter is Anne Boleyn. We’ll look at other portraits of the Queen and her mother and step-mother for comparison and think about what the style of the mystery woman’s clothing, especially her French hood, can tell us about her identity. We’ll also examine how this beautiful piece of jewellery came into Elizabeth’s possession and if it’s really the ring taken from her finger at death and carried north to Scotland. Was it a gift from a member of the Seymour family, as the phoenix on its reverse side might suggest, or is this symbolism merely a coincidence? Furthermore, was this the very ring taken the dead Queen’s finger and carried to Scotland so that King James VI would know she was really gone and how did it get to its present home? Its name stems from the fact that it is now held at the country residence of the British Prime Minister (Chequers Court), but it only arrived in the 20th century and its earlier provenance is somewhat murky.
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@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Who do you think the lady in the French hood is? Let me know below and remember to check me out on Patreon at www.patreon.com/historycalling and on my Amazon storefront at www.amazon.com/shop/historycalling CORRECTION: I said the ring was 175mm. That should have been 17.5mm. Oops!
@Meine.Postma
@Meine.Postma Год назад
Anne Boleyn. So there is a portrait
@becca7327
@becca7327 Год назад
It definitely makes sense to be her beloved mother
@AK-dw8jo
@AK-dw8jo Год назад
No offence but please get your eyes checked! The lady in the portrait is CLEARLY Adele AFTER her weight loss journey Elizabeth was just a super fan
@michaelleblanc7283
@michaelleblanc7283 Год назад
This old dog had to look the measurement up. 15.5 mm is 0.295276 of an inch - 1/3 of an inch almost !
@dianetheisen8664
@dianetheisen8664 Год назад
Anne Boleyn
@AussieWalks
@AussieWalks Год назад
Another brilliant episode!! I absolutely agree with you that it is Anne Boleyn. It looks just like her going by her other portraits and of course it makes sense that QEI would want her mother close to her in such a private, personal and secret way. It's truly beautiful and sheds a tiny little light on how QEI may have carried her love for her mother with her throughout her life in a way that was safe for her to do so. Just beautiful
@savagedarksider2147
@savagedarksider2147 Год назад
If you love history I recommend you watch the documentary series on the Russian Monarchy.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thank you very much. Yes, it's a wonderful little item to have and I'm so glad it's survived the ravages of time.
@Calla-sl8gd
@Calla-sl8gd Год назад
I agree. Since finding out about this little gem, I've believed the second lady was Anne. In spite of whatever anyone said about Anne and how little time mother and daughter had together, it's reasonable to believe that Elizabeth loved her mother. What better way to keep her memory close!
@SecretSquirrelFun
@SecretSquirrelFun Год назад
I absolutely agree with you. It does look almost exactly like other portraits, right down to the slightest turn of the head and the black dress and jewellery worn. So personal, so beautiful an object.
@juliemurdoch348
@juliemurdoch348 Год назад
Another famous red head was Mary Queen of Scots. Elizabeth seems to have been horrified that her sister Queen had been executed despite her signing the papers. Perhaps she would possibly be so remorseful as to have a hidden likeness of Mary on her person? I am really not sure of dates or have any knowledge on the ring. Just throwing out an idea. I have really enjoyed this episode. Thanks so much
@johnslaughter5475
@johnslaughter5475 Год назад
I think it's most likely to be Anne Boleyn. Even though Anne was "disgraced," she was still Elizabeth's mother. And, Elizabeth may have even known that the charges against Anne were all phony. As always, thank you for a wonderful, well presented, and well thought out video. 😊😊
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks John. Yes, I'm sure she did know the charges were false. In some cases it was very easy to prove that Anne wasn't even at the locations she was supposed to committed adultery at during the correct time period.
@margo3367
@margo3367 Год назад
She knew what a brutal man her father was. She was there for Catherine Howard’s execution.
@nousernamesarevalid
@nousernamesarevalid Год назад
If you want to go with the Mother of Pearl angle, consider that Elizabeth’s initial is accompanied by a pearl. If you see Elizabeth as pearl, you can take Mother of Pearl to indicate the ring is about Elizabeth and Anne Boleyn.
@Eloraurora
@Eloraurora 10 месяцев назад
I like this, especially because of the symbolism of pearls as representing virginity, frequently worn by QE1.
@doctordolldesigns4009
@doctordolldesigns4009 Год назад
I think Anne is the strongest candidate by far. It looks identical to the B pattern portrait of her and I think it's so sweet to think Elizabeth wanted a memento of her mother.
@jamessheridan4306
@jamessheridan4306 Год назад
I'm surprised that you didn't give more attention to that curious looking 'diamond' in the sitters necklace. It looks crude, bulky and somewhat out of place being surrounded by a black line. Overall it looks like a later addition intended to cover something up like, oh I don't know, maybe a 'B'?
@suewood8538
@suewood8538 26 дней назад
That is exactly what I thought.
@jemmatilling
@jemmatilling Год назад
I am obsessed with all things AB but I genuinely didn't know this ring existed until a few years ago and what a fool I feel! I absolutely believe it is Anne and I love the romance of the idea that Elizabeth wore it and kept it secret from her inventory so that no one would be offended or outraged by Anne Boleyn being kept so close to her.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I like the idea that she always had Anne with her too :-)
@dianetheisen8664
@dianetheisen8664 Год назад
I am obsessed with all things Anne Boleyn too. I have heard of this Ring 💍, though never saw it. But right from the start, I believed it was Anne. There could be no other choice. I mean, you're Queen Elizabeth I, who else would you want in your locket⁉️
@harrietharlow9929
@harrietharlow9929 Год назад
I think it's a very touching connection with her long-gone mother that she could keep with her and yet not draw attention to Anne.
@grungekitty77
@grungekitty77 Год назад
I think the idea that Elizabeth kept it off her inventory to be extra careful makes sense.
@harrietharlow9929
@harrietharlow9929 Год назад
@@grungekitty77 It certainly makes sense to me.
@shannonfick7170
@shannonfick7170 Год назад
When the video started I so wanted it to be Anne and now you’ve convinced me that it really must be her! There’s something about a mother and daughter who were ripped apart in life (with Anne never getting to see her little girl grow up and Elizabeth likely never being allowed to mention her mother at all, much less having any portraits to look at) being reunited and protected in this small, secret place for all eternity that makes me a bit emotional 💖
@dianetheisen8664
@dianetheisen8664 Год назад
I agree
@annmoore6678
@annmoore6678 Год назад
It really tugged at my heart, too!
@LM-1825
@LM-1825 День назад
I believe QEI spoke about her mother to her relatives whom she employed, the children/grandchildren of Mary Boleyn, Anne's sister. Indeed, Catherine Carey was her first cousin and was twelve years old when Anne was beheaded. She would have remembered Anne well and quite possibly interacted with her on more than a few occasions. Catherine's aunt was the queen of England! I'm sure she was very impressed by that. I'm sure Elizabeth would have asked her everything she knew about her mother in private. I'm sure Catherine was happy to share all she knew.
@stephanieking4444
@stephanieking4444 Год назад
There has never been any doubt in my mind that this ring contains portraits of Elizabeth and her mother Anne Boleyn. I saw the ring at the 2003 Greenwich exhibition celebrating Elizabeth and her reign. It was the one item that got me really excited as I could clearly identify the Anne Boleyn face pattern that was in use during Elizabeth's reign. This pattern is the one in the NPG's portrait of Anne Boleyn. It is also the one used in the miniature the video here shows. One thing struck me about the ring. It's so tiny. Elizabeth must have had extremely slender fingers. I know she's renowned for her very specific hands. Looking at that ring really drives the point home.
@Sassenach4life
@Sassenach4life Год назад
I have always thought it to be Anne Boleyn! I didn’t know there was any doubt about it. It always has bothered me that Elizabeth never knew her mother and how it must’ve felt to have so much controversy around her. I would love to see this ring in person one day!!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Same here :-)
@leticiagarcia9025
@leticiagarcia9025 Год назад
For sentimental reasons I always believed it was Anne Boleyn. Elizabeth’s way of honoring her mother. I’m glad there’s more proof that this is Anne Boleyn. I don’t know how the painter was able to paint these miniature paintings. The ring is beautiful. Elizabeth must’ve trusted the painter and jeweler. Anne Boleyn was still seen as an adulterer and a traitor. I’m still hoping that one day someone will find a real portrait of her in a closet or a vault. That would be one of the greatest discoveries of all time. Thank you for this. Have a lovely weekend.
@Elly3981
@Elly3981 Год назад
Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever know how Anne Boleyn really looked unless we can somehow recover her skull and do a forensic reconstruction of her face since King Henry had all of Anne's portraits from her lifetime destroyed after he murdered her.
@dominaevillae28
@dominaevillae28 Год назад
There exists a coin with Anne’s picture stamped on it.
@elisabethhopson5639
@elisabethhopson5639 Год назад
Wow! What a piece of jewellery that is. Stunningly beautiful and loaded with history and meaning. I agree with you that the portrait is Anne Boleyn. It just wreaks of her. Just can just see Elizabeth, in times of stress or decision-making, flipping it open to look and maybe even talk to her Mum, for strength and guidance. Secrecy and disguise sums up Elizabeth all over, due to her early life. I reckon this was probably one of her most important pieces of jewellery and it still survives, even now. She would have been chuffed to know that Oliver Cromwell didn't get his smutty hands on this treasure. Cracking HC. 😊
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
It's gorgeous isn't it? I'd love to see it in real life and it's wonderful to think of Elizabeth using it as well.
@brianeutzy3376
@brianeutzy3376 Год назад
Having watched my wife set gemstones in pendant, rings, and earring mounts/semi-mounts. She and I watched this together, she was very impressed that it was hinged much like locket or pocket watch. This was crafted by a master of jewelry. This wearable art. Just beautifully made.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, it is stunning.
@brianeutzy3376
@brianeutzy3376 Год назад
@@HistoryCalling what about kat ashley, was she considered for who the lady might be. She (kat ashley) would have still worn a French Hood at the time of Queen Anne or Ann death. I know I read about her (ashley) being with Queen Elizabeth I from her childhood to far on to her adult life.
@skontheroad
@skontheroad 11 месяцев назад
​@@brianeutzy3376She mentions in the video that while some may have presented Kat Ashley as yet another possibility, it doesn't look anything like Kat when comparing the ring to an actual portrait of Kat. As shown here in the video. And with all the other potential possibilities, it does seem fairly unlikely that Elizabeth would have kept a miniature of her nanny so close to her her entire life
@kevster2171
@kevster2171 Год назад
Another great piece of research. I had always thought the other portrait could not be Anne because of the hair colour. But if it was painted onto gold the brown paint could well have worn off. Also you convinced me that the date of the hood is 1530s, impossible for Elizabeth. Very touching to think she had this secret tribute to her mother and I'd like to think she invited Anne's enemies to kiss it 😀
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Haha, now there's a fun thought - having Boleyn haters kissing her portrait! :-)
@luvmuzik4me
@luvmuzik4me Год назад
I can think of only 2 women that average woman would put in her locket, her mother or her daughter. I believe this is a painting of Anne Boleyn. Thank you for bringing this to us. This is the first time that I have heard of this ring.
@richardpearce1114
@richardpearce1114 Год назад
Saw the ring at the British Museum exhibition Rival Queens it struck me instantly and forcibly as the woman in the most happy medal that same saucy gleeful expression. Same pronounced chin. Was interested when you pointed out the mother of pearl....didn't Elizabeth wear pearls to show purity?... Mother of innocence, innocent mother! It is so moving that Elizabeth would wear this and never take it off. It has to be Anne.
@roslynholcomb
@roslynholcomb Год назад
I didn’t know that anyone ever questioned that the woman is Anne. No one else makes sense. I’m also intrigued by the placement of the large diamond on the Anne portrait. It seems oddly oversized or out of place to me. If it is a copy of a B portrait could there have originally been a B there and someone (maybe ER) had it covered as too obvious?
@cheryldueck318
@cheryldueck318 Год назад
That part stood out to me as well as seeming out of proportion for the portrait. Interesting idea.
@claire2088
@claire2088 Год назад
I think you're right here- the intimate nature of it really narrows down who it *could* be and then the lappets conviniently dating it. I also think that just *how* scretive this locket is makes me think it's Anne further- it would presumably have been easier for Elizabeth to have a bigger portrait of Katherine Parr around if she'd wanted to for example- Anne seems like the likely candidate for a secret locket I think if the enamel of the hair has worn away then it's possible that it could have been Brunette or Auburn- but there doesn't seem to be any pictures of any of the other possible women that resemble the miniture- it looks jsut like a mini Anne portrait
@csh43166
@csh43166 Год назад
What an amazing piece of jewelry! It's also amazing it has survived, and is in such good condition. It just makes sense to me that it depicts Elizabeth and Anne - the obvious sentiments that would be associated with it and the fact it looks very much like Anne. I definitely agree that you can see where the enamel for the hair is brown where it has not worn away. I love learning about artifacts and this is one I had never seen before. Another great video - thank you!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks Connie. Yes, the enamel certainly seems to have been brown all over. Like I said in the video, it's surprising to me that so many people have overlooked that fact.
@janwilliams1781
@janwilliams1781 Год назад
This is fantastic! In of the books on Elizabeth I read years ago, it read that the queen wore an image of her mother the rest of her life. Mother of Pearl yes, for her mother and the virgin symbolism she loved to project.
@Galen_G
@Galen_G Год назад
Wow. This ring was depicted in the last scene of "The Virgin Queen" with Tom Hardy. I had no idea it actually existed. Really tugs at the heart strings. I wonder if QEI remembered her mother at all.
@curlyfryzzz1
@curlyfryzzz1 Год назад
It potentially goes even further than just the ring. There was an x-ray done on one of the many portraits of Elizabeth as queen (i believe it was the npg 200). The serpent portrait. They found a portrait of an unknown woman underneath. The woman has features very similar to the medal that was struck for Anne. The shape of the jaw and the nose very similar, and she seems to be wearing a french hood. Ofc, we can't know for sure, but it's interesting to think about.
@susancrawford2343
@susancrawford2343 Год назад
It really would not surprise me to learn that it was indeed, Anne Boleyn. Certainly from an emotional point of view, it makes a lot of sense for Elizabeth to have such a secret piece of jewelry to keep her mother close. The French style of clothing/headwear also speaks to it being Anne.
@annmoore6678
@annmoore6678 Год назад
That was an enchanting presentation. Thank you so much! It is truly amazing what jewels and clothing can tell us about historical figures of the Tudor era. With the diamond E and the excellent likeness of Elizabeth in the ring, it's pretty convincing that the ring belonged to the queen and if it was her ring, there could hardly be anyone else from the 1530's whom Elizabeth would want to carry with her, hidden within a beautiful ring. It's a really moving story. Historically, the queen is represented as such a cool-headed person, at times merciless to those who betrayed her. To think of her wearing this hidden tribute to Anne suggests the years of secret grief and love she may have carried for her long lost mother.
@mangot589
@mangot589 Год назад
I would say it is. BECAUSE people that knew Anne would have KNOWN what she looked like, and not everyone hated her. Some people DID like her, opposed to her demonization. And they would have taken care of Elizabeth, and told her about her mother. In secrecy, of course. I’ve known about this for a long time, but your investigation of this little gem of history is wonderful, never stop learning, eh? Thank you!
@rickjensen2717
@rickjensen2717 Год назад
Excellent video once again! Very likely that it's Anne. I'm always pleased that you always go back to original source material and don't simply repeat what others have said, some of which is often inaccurate. A real historian with the most beautiful voice I know.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thank you so much. Yes, primary sources are key. Anyone not using them is just a fraud in my opinion.
@agatha6999
@agatha6999 Год назад
I didn't even realize how flimsy the blonde hair comment is, I got sad at the thought this ring isn't actually Anne but Catherine Parr (nothing against her its just we already have images of her while Anne's are constantly in dispute). Also really love how part of your evidence is the clothing they wear, you have such a good eye I never would've caught details like the lappets
@blueyes6474
@blueyes6474 Год назад
The lapel length is what really sells it to me that it’s AB, that and how much it looks like other renditions
@angelabullington6116
@angelabullington6116 Год назад
I have never seen such a unique and detailed ring. Besides the portraits, the stones (cut and setting) are equally interesting and beautiful.
@diannehardwick950
@diannehardwick950 Год назад
I believe the other woman in the ring is Anne Boleyn for all the reasons you have mentioned. Also, the privacy of the locket portraits allowed Elizabeth to keep her affection for her mother private and prevented anyone from suggesting Anne had not legitimately been Henry’s wife at the time Elizabeth was born. Makes sense to me. Thanks for your research and this interesting video.
@jamesmackey2120
@jamesmackey2120 Год назад
Another fascinating and well researched video HC, so thanks for that. As we still do today, we keep pictures of our loved ones in lockets and there’s no reason that Elizabeth wouldn’t be the same. She could keep the portrait of her mother close and importantly secret also. So I agree with your conclusion, the second portrait is of her mother Anne. Thanks for bringing this rarely discussed topic to us, it’s been amazing to learn about it. 😉
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks James. I enjoyed learning about this too as I've never looked at the ring in such detail before.
@Boadicea17
@Boadicea17 Год назад
Loved this little documentary!💘 I am obsessed with all things Tudor, especially Elizabeth!🌸 The ring is the most magical and personal piece of jewellery I have ever seen!! I believe in my heart 100% that the portrait is of Anne, Elizabeth's mum❤ I feel so strongly about this, there is such a warmth about this jewel, truly a uniquely personal devotional piece to the woman who brought Elizabeth into the world, who adored her little girl and met such a cruel and tragic end in the prime of her life. Thank you for all your fascinating knowledge about it!🙏💎🌟💕 Have just found you so have subscribed to hear more fascinating history!!❤
@jeffm902
@jeffm902 Год назад
Can you do an episode about Elizabeth I linguistic abilities and which languages she knew and how many? I’ve read several different possibilities. From 5 languages to 10. Some say Flemish, others not. Some say she knew Cornish, other don’t mention it, etc. would be a fascinating video!
@vernon2542
@vernon2542 Год назад
Another interesting story, I do agree with you that it is the portrait of Queen Elizabeth 1 and her mother. Although I do find it strange that it wasn't listed in the Queen's inventory. Maybe she understood what was brewing and gave the ring to someone for safe keeping. Looking forward to next week.
@IanDocherty335
@IanDocherty335 2 месяца назад
About 18 years ago I had the pleasure of visiting Chequers and was privileged to be able to hold the subject of this video (albeit it was in a small plastic case) it was quite amazing to be so close to something so personal that was worn by worn by Elizabeth I.
@DonnaV411
@DonnaV411 Год назад
I think it must be Anne Boleyn, not only for all the excellent reason you put forth, but also because what other woman would a woman like QEI deign to pay homage to in such a way, wearing and treasuring the ring, except her own mother. Kat Ashley's blood was not in her veins. I love your theory about the use of mother of pearl for the ring and the phoenix crest being there to symbolize the giver of the ring. Of course a person who sought to impress and ingratiate himself to his sovereign would include something like that in an expensive gift; so she could never forget who gave it to her. It could have been the artist who suggested the mother of pearl when commissioned for the piece.
@pamspurgers3578
@pamspurgers3578 Год назад
I've always enjoyed your videos and have had a lifelong fascination/obsession with this ring. I'm certain your analysis is correct and it is a portrait of Anne Boleyn. It just makes sense that Elizabeth R would secretly hold her mother close.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks Pam. Yes, I think Anne is the only serious contender here.
@jerrydempsey3490
@jerrydempsey3490 Год назад
I too believe that this is Anne Boleyn. Having the portrait of her mother hidden in a ring locket would agree with not bringing her executed mother into an obvious display fearing repercussions. Excellent video as always.
@rexgrl3
@rexgrl3 Год назад
'Mother" of pearl...clever, I like this theory.
@JennyTolios
@JennyTolios Год назад
What an absolutely stunning piece of the first Elizabethan era. And as always a brilliant analysis of such a fascinating part of English history. Thank you for another wonderful video. 🤗
@tkhdakota
@tkhdakota Год назад
It makes sense that it would be a portrait of her mother. With her father's attempt to wipe out anything that was evidence of Anne, Elizabeth would not have brought her mother up fearing her father would see her as Anne's daughter and push her aside. Also reminders that Anne Boleyn was her mother may have reminded people there was once a question of her being legitimate or illegitimate. Its probably the reason Elizabeth didn't try to get her legitimacy affirmed by the government as her sister Mary did. This was probably the safest way for her to remember her mother.
@RubyBlueUwU
@RubyBlueUwU Год назад
I didn’t know this existed and I absolutely love it, what a beautiful and meaningful piece of jewellery. It does make perfect sense for this to be real and of Anne, and as someone who lost a parent very young (though not as young as Elizabeth - though I do own a locket with an image of said parent!) it’s extremely moving for me. Wonderful video as always!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks Ruby. Yes, there's something very special about images in locket jewellery, isn't there? I guess that's why they're still so popular today. It's nice to be able to keep the person close.
@lisaharner3720
@lisaharner3720 Год назад
I have never heard of this ring so thank you for another wonderful video. It makes total sense that it is Anne and the likeness to her portrait is uncanny. Great sleuthing!
@MotherOf-Ferrets
@MotherOf-Ferrets Год назад
I have always believed it was Anne Boleyn. Thank you SO MUCH for this beautifully made video
@sue-anneastman3502
@sue-anneastman3502 Год назад
I would love a mystery novel, based on your incredibly detailed forensic examination of historical artifacts!
@justineharper3346
@justineharper3346 Год назад
I love the idea that Elizabeth kept a little piece of her mother with her ❤
@jamesdeen3011
@jamesdeen3011 Год назад
I am a lover of history, and I must tell you that no one presents history in the style or depth that you do on any given subject. Your detailed and logical explanations that you put forth occasionally in your videos are very sluth like and believable coupled with your soft soothing voice makes for a very knowledgeable and enjoyable experience. Please keep up the great work that you do. Thank you.
@naomiskilling1093
@naomiskilling1093 Год назад
Could the "blue ring" that Carey presented to James VI/I be Elizabeth's coronation ring? I read that it had to be cut off her finger in the final days of her life because her hand swole and thus the ring began to cut into the flesh of her hand. It would seem a better thing to present as proof of Elizabeth's death than a ring which held a miniature portrait of Anne Boleyn.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I'd need to look into that, but maybe.
@jamiegrettum
@jamiegrettum Год назад
Oh yea, can you research whether the ring had to be cut off?
@madwhitehare3635
@madwhitehare3635 Год назад
Swelled.
@annham4136
@annham4136 Год назад
I feel certain it must be Anne. I had also thought of a Seymour having gifted it to her before you mentioned it. I wonder if the royals all might have private pieces of jewelry that were not listed in the case that they are particularly personal.
@tudortalks
@tudortalks Год назад
I agree with you! I thought it was Anne but hearing that the hair colour is in fact brunette rather than blonde really solidifies that for me.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, I think that's the clincher. If it was truly blonde I wouldn't support an identification of Anne.
@allisonyoung3420
@allisonyoung3420 Год назад
Oh it’s Anne! I believe this a lot as like you said she was discreet about Anne But still she was her mother. And this would be a perfect way for her to “secretly” honor her. Great video again! Ty!❤
@gabrielleschiavo9078
@gabrielleschiavo9078 Год назад
I'm really curious how that ring was made. The rubies are perfectly aligned with the gold and I'm wondering if the gold was poured over the rubies or if the rubies were set then filed down. The techniques are so different from modern that it might be interesting if you're ever at a loss for a topic ;-))
@Leah-nc3yx
@Leah-nc3yx Год назад
This was a great video! I enjoy videos about historical objects, as much as I do about historical people. To my mind, there is no doubt that it’s Anne. While all your points are extremely valid, the clincher for me is knowing how people who lost or where separated from their mothers as a child are generally very keen to know all they can about them. Knowing she couldn’t publicly acknowledge her or her life, this was her private way of keeping her close and memorializing her.
@mkuti-childress3625
@mkuti-childress3625 Год назад
I think you’re so right! I’m certain she would have been curious about her mother but was probably warned to be discreet from a young age. This would have been a perfect little remembrance, possibly her only one. I could see it having been a personal gift from someone who had been close to Anne when she had been alive who understood the need for discretion. I love the imagery of the phoenix and how it would be very appropriate to describe Elizabeth rising to the crown after the bitter fall of her mother.
@BellesLibraryVlog
@BellesLibraryVlog 3 месяца назад
Intriguing! Yes, I agree it's Anne. I'd never seen this ring before. Thank you for sharing!
@silva7493
@silva7493 Год назад
Oh my goodness it is exquisite. IMO it most definitely is fit for a great Queen. I feel very privileged to see these images.
@annettetonks7055
@annettetonks7055 Год назад
Just found your channel. So interesting. I've never heard of this ring. But I think it is Anne Boleyn, as you suggest. Look forward to many more fascinating posts.
@stevejarrettnc
@stevejarrettnc Год назад
I totally respect the HUGE amount of work you put into each video you do. It’s “just” remarkable!
@GiftSparks
@GiftSparks Год назад
I totally think it is Anne Boleyn. It is beautiful tribute to her. Although we don't have verifiable images today of Anne, chances are that there were some remaining (hidden) that Henry VIII could not destroy and Elizabeth could have used those at the model for the ring. I think she had it made for herself.
@hollyh314
@hollyh314 Год назад
I absolutely adore this channel and look forward to Friday's bcuz of it!!! Another fantastic episode!!!
@davidlancaster8152
@davidlancaster8152 Год назад
What a beautiful and fantastic jewel! In matters like these I always defer to you. Your logic and fact finding are impeccable. This demands multiple views. Thanks for all you do. Hope the weather is fair where you are and you're doing great. Lvya much 🎉
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks David. It's a bit grey here today, but not raining at least. That's about as much as one can ask for in NI in early March :-)
@phyllisruthmick9368
@phyllisruthmick9368 Год назад
@@HistoryCalling Northern Ireland? How cool!
@spicencens7725
@spicencens7725 Год назад
Great video, you excel in research which is rare these days!👍🏻💐 Chequers already appears as a plural noun. I believe the possessive would be displayed just as you have it on the title: Chequers' Also the other woman on the ring would surely be her mother, Anne. Since she was accused & executed in such a devious way, and Henry calling ER1 illegitimate, she would hardly display her connection to her mother, to the country. It was private, and privately she kept it. Whether through endearment, or seen as a weakening of her position, it stayed where it belonged.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thank you. I don't know if I'll ever be able to decide on the correct grammar for Chequers/Chequers'. It certainly drove me round the bend though. I agree that promoting her connection to Anne would have been impolitic for Elizabeth and the ring was a clever way around it.
@nancycampbell8671
@nancycampbell8671 Год назад
I'd like to think that it's Queen Elizabeth's mother, Anne Boleyn. While arguments have been made for it to have been other women who were close and important to Elizabeth, given the rich clothing and style of the hood, it seems likely to have been her Mother. The clincher for me is the worn brown enamel representing her hair. The Seymour's crest on the inside was a bit of a shock!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, I definitely think Anne too and like yourself, I wasn't aware of the Seymour connection until researching this.
@daisyl2629
@daisyl2629 Год назад
How interesting. This ring and the portrait of Elizabeth that more recently revealed a hidden woman with dark hair and dark eyes who was painted over, were both dated around the same time, 1572-75. In both cases Elizabeth is present and so is a mysterious woman. Could it be that Elizabeth herself, in wanting to be close to, or honour her mother commissioned these two pieces around the same time? They seem to be secret and if it is Anne, then this would make sense.
@deborahcasler1341
@deborahcasler1341 Год назад
Definitely Anne - it makes the most logical sense & you present the case for this theory perfectly!
@susancady2581
@susancady2581 Год назад
Excellent video! I had heard about this ring but had never saw a picture of it, thanks for sharing. I totally agree, I think it is the queen’s mother, it feels right that she would have something to keep close, and remember what it cost them both for her to be queen.
@kate_cooper
@kate_cooper Год назад
It’s a lovely idea that Elizabeth couldn’t publicly acknowledge her mother without jeopardising her position but kept a little private memento of her that very few people knew about, whether it was her own commission or a gift. Actually, if it was a gift, could it perhaps have been from Robert Dudley? I really don’t see who else it could be, there aren’t many women significant to Elizabeth who wore a 1830s French hood. The only others I can think of would be her aunts, Queen Margaret of Scotland, Mary Duchess of Suffolk, or Mary Boleyn and I don’t think Elizabeth was particularly close to either of them. Anne is the only person who makes any real sense here.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, I think she makes the most sense too. The Seymour insignia makes me think it must have been created by someone from that family, so I tend to believe Dudley is less likely for that reason.
@SurferJoe1
@SurferJoe1 Год назад
My immediate, analysis-free reaction as my eyes went to the higher image was "that's Anne Boleyn". My eyes then went straight to the hair, noted the two shades seen, and I thought 'discoloration/damage'. As to the first, our source material for Anne's appearance is very limited, obviously, but the resemblance to the famous portrait we always see is overwhelming- I would say irrefutable. Just look at the mouth, for one. Your critical analysis put the matter to rest for me. The only real question is the provenance. If this ring is really what it appears to be, what a spectacular object of English history. It's as if Elizabeth answers a question we'd all love to ask her.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, it really does look like the B pattern portraits and I agree, it tells us a lot about Elizabeth's feelings towards her mother.
@MK_Nay
@MK_Nay Год назад
I love that you cite all your sources. Even photo/video. It has now become a fun treasure hunt to find where you place the sources in the videos
@lazygardens
@lazygardens Год назад
Also, hair color can change after death, going lighter. The eumelanin (black/brown/yellowish) is not stable and oxidizes, leaving the pheomelanin (reddish) behind. That's why mummies usually have "red" hair. It's what is left of the pigments.
@Endorill
@Endorill Год назад
So great to see the close ups of this piece. You are always so interesting.
@roslynholcomb
@roslynholcomb Год назад
I’d always assumed she had the ring made for herself. It just seems like a rather dangerous gift given her situation. Especially as a gift some someone she was already angry with. The gift giver would have to know such a gift would be welcome. Would one of her courtiers take such a change? It is an interesting thought.
@gunvorelisabethkirkelund8767
Thank you for a wonderful video 😊 I think she is Anne of Cleves. Due to the jewellery and clothes, she is almost certainly one of Henry VIII’s wifes. I think your lapel argument rules out Catherine Parr and what Elizabeth experienced living in Catherine Parr’s household after Henry’s death also rules her out. The reason I think she is Anne of Cleves is that Elizabeth and Anne of Cleves had a special realitionship through Elizabeth’s formative years, and Anne of Cleves was a rolemodel to Elizabeth in several ways. E.g. Anne of Cleves was penalized by Mary I for her close relationship with Elizabeth and Elizabeth was mentioned in her will. Anne of Cleves began wearing a french hood almost as soon as she arrived in England. She was used to covering her hair, so maybe she prefered a french hood, which covered a bit more than what was fashionable.
@paigemprice
@paigemprice Год назад
I wouldn't think she was required to tell everybody or even her secretaries of all her possessions. Intrigued at the apparent gem in the place where you would see the "B" covering what would identify her mother. I like the idea of Elizabeth rising regardless of her mothers, undeserved, downfall. I also thought about Kat.
@bernadettetuley4917
@bernadettetuley4917 11 месяцев назад
I LOVE you ❤️ . All content you make is fantastic...from the actual content to your voice. 😊
@gonefishing167
@gonefishing167 Год назад
Loved this video,so,much, thank you. I do think it makes the most sense if the portrait is her mother. Beautiful piece of jewellery. So sad for Elizabeth but at least she had something 🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍👵🇦🇺
@MilesAwaywithUs
@MilesAwaywithUs Год назад
I've always loved the story of this ring, and my *only doubt about it being Anne was that gold looking hair. You effectively explained that away. It's absolutely Anne, I would say. Thank you for this lovely narration!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it and that I was able to persuade you :-)
@ns-wz1mx
@ns-wz1mx Год назад
this video was fabulously executed!! the research and effort you put in never ceases to amaze me. it’s like going down a rabbit hole with a satisfying agreeable conclusion 💎🙌🏻
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thank you. Not all stories have a clear conclusion like this one of course, but I couldn't agree more that it is very satisfying when they do :-)
@ns-wz1mx
@ns-wz1mx Год назад
@@HistoryCalling 100%!!!
@Aarontlondon
@Aarontlondon Год назад
Your channel is truly brilliant, thank you.
@kerrylehto5980
@kerrylehto5980 Год назад
I absolutely love the depth of your research, HC. It makes complete sense to me that the portrait is of Anne Boleyn, and if so, it's a touching remnant of a queen who had no chance ever to know her mother.
@melodeeryan19
@melodeeryan19 Год назад
Great video! I never noticed the lappets length changing over time before. I learned something new thank you 😊
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
You're so welcome :-)
@lesleydoughty3895
@lesleydoughty3895 Год назад
I found your channel by accident. Am now subscribed. It saddens me that schools only teach 20th century history. I agree it is Ann and I'm sure the picture gave Elizabeth comfort that her mother loved her and watched over her.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks for subscribing and welcome :-)
@Story-Voracious66
@Story-Voracious66 Год назад
I for one believe that it is a portrait of Queen Anne Boleyn; having looked very closely to portraits of other Howard's, especially Thomas Howard her maternal uncle, it is easy to see a strong familial resemblance. Thanks for your upload; most engaging.
@Martin-zh
@Martin-zh Год назад
Excellent video! I also think that it’s her mother Anne. Beautiful ring and interesting history behind it. I can’t wait for your next video.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks Martin. A whole week to wait I'm afraid, as my month-long experiment with shorts is now over.
@aik51912
@aik51912 Год назад
I've never heard of this ring! Fascinating video!
@ruthgoldsmith6647
@ruthgoldsmith6647 Год назад
Thank you beautifully done 🌷
@yorkshirepudding9860
@yorkshirepudding9860 Год назад
I wonder if the reason it isn't in the inventories, is because it wasn't made for Elizabeth, but on the orders of Elizabeth, as a gift for someone else? Maybe if the second woman is Anne, it was made for a surviving Boleyn relative, or someone who had a connection with Anne? Or maybe it was for Elizabeth, but she never accepted it because she felt it was too risky, even in this fairly hidden way.
@katjack2780
@katjack2780 Год назад
I had read of the Katherine Parr theory, given that the sitter appeared to have blonde hair, but it didn't seem right to me. But all that was needed was a better focused close up of the ring so that the remains of the brown paint could be seen. Much more satisfactory:) Meanwhile, I started down the rabbit hole chasing her coronation ring. In that famous coronation portrait (a later copy of the 1559 original), she is wearing three rings. Two of them are oblong shaped on her index fingers and the third is on her left hand, fourth finger. The position of this ring probably makes it the coronation ring, as she was "married" to England. It appears to have a round, dark blue stone but I've not been able to get a clear closeup of it. Since the doctors actually ordered it to be cut off to make her more comfortable, it could have been available to her second cousin Robert Carey when he visited her on March 19. He wrote to James later on that same day to say they didn't think she would last more than three days.
@kristenrock7783
@kristenrock7783 Год назад
In my heart I know this to be a true portrait of anne. Though Elizabeth was not even 3 when her mom was killed, she did have very little vivid memories of her mother. When we're all around the ages to 2-3, we start to form the memories our brains store for the rest of our lives, whether it be long term or long-term memories. and the memories she had were loving, but also confusing, cuz from a very young age she heard so many lies about her mom, as well as how strong anne was, by Anne's supporters. Elizabeth loved the memory she had of her mom, and to keep her close was the form of other jewelry as well as this ring. I know the sitter's hair is very light, and anne is said to have darker hair, but I do think that the darker paint had faded through the years giving Anne lighter locks. you can actually see some brown streaks, which you too pointed out. this lady is indeed anne.
@widowkeeper4739
@widowkeeper4739 Год назад
I do think it's Anne pictured. This ring really is so sweet and touching as well as beautiful.
@marthajohns443
@marthajohns443 Год назад
Brilliant show has always
@dianetheisen8664
@dianetheisen8664 Год назад
I have heard of this Ring 💍 and I believed from the start that it was Anne Boleyn. I never questioned it. You have confirmed it. I thank you.
@morningsidewithkelley
@morningsidewithkelley Год назад
Agree with you that the second portrait is of Anne Boleyn. You make many solid points and sometimes the easiest answer really is the right one.
@ChosenandUntamed
@ChosenandUntamed Год назад
Another Friday, and another great HC video to help me make it through my Lenten fast!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Happy to help. Have you given up anything in particular for Lent or are you just generally trying to be good?
@ChosenandUntamed
@ChosenandUntamed Год назад
@@HistoryCalling Ah, thank you for replying! I've given up meat for the entirety of Lent instead of just on Fridays like usual. I hope everything is well on your end, too!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Gosh, that's commitment. I couldn't go nearly vegetarian (I'm assuming you're not sweating meat products in things like sweets?) for that long. I'd go postal. Well done you. Keep up the good work.
@shelbythe2ds526
@shelbythe2ds526 Год назад
Your videos are amazing and your humor is priceless ❤❤❤
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thank you so much :-)
@Michelle-fh2dp
@Michelle-fh2dp Год назад
What other woman would a woman carry with her at all times other than her mother or daughter? I feel sure it is her lost mother. Her loss was probably most painful to Elizabeth, one she could not even talk about. Everyone wants a mom.
@kimmykimak3737
@kimmykimak3737 Год назад
Well done. Another brilliant episode. I agree with you. I believe it's Anne.
@edithengel2284
@edithengel2284 Год назад
I believe that the "Home" in the Earl of Home's title is pronounced "Hume."
@BiddyIsABaddy
@BiddyIsABaddy Год назад
Love that you admitted to having trouble with the s’ or ‘s. I think you went with the proper option, humility 😊
@woodenbeast9337
@woodenbeast9337 Год назад
What a beautiful ring and I agree with you. Is the ring still around? Thank you for your a great channel
@janetsmith7808
@janetsmith7808 9 месяцев назад
Well done!
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