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Does The Weight Increase When You Levitate a Superconductor on a Scale? 

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In this video I take your suggestions and questions about type 2 superconductors and do experiments to answer them. First I put the superconductor in a vacuum chamber to see if it will last forever with no air and no friction. Then I see if the weight increases when you levitate a superconductor on a scale.
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@praisethyjeebus
@praisethyjeebus 4 года назад
Pre watch: Yes. Post watch: not surprised, but still a cool experiment.
@stuartelms3005
@stuartelms3005 4 года назад
Thank you, I couldn’t be bothered to watch it all...
@Devinfrbs
@Devinfrbs 4 года назад
Nice pun.
@RackedandStacked
@RackedandStacked 4 года назад
ty Jeebus
@bojidarlyubenov203
@bojidarlyubenov203 4 года назад
Literally
@MrRyanroberson1
@MrRyanroberson1 4 года назад
i'd guess the vacuum chamber is just too slow for the experiment to count.
@MrMarkVanSomething
@MrMarkVanSomething 4 года назад
What I got from this: All objects don't actually touch each other. Super conductors don't touch each other even more.
@smartart6841
@smartart6841 3 года назад
Lol
@magnus4437
@magnus4437 2 года назад
double lol
@OnlyAFlame
@OnlyAFlame 2 года назад
I guess so lol This is hard to understand , I can visualize it though
@NetAndyCz
@NetAndyCz 4 года назад
0:22 There may be no air to conduct the heat, but there still will be the infrared radiation. And perfect vacuum is kind of impossible to achieve.
@aarongames7034
@aarongames7034 4 года назад
What about in space
@Fabian-mu3hq
@Fabian-mu3hq 4 года назад
Right, first of all you can never do it with this pump, not even with a secondary diffusion or turbo molecular pump, And also there still would be quantum fluctuations and the only way to get them away is with the Casimir effect where not all wavelengths of particals have the necessary space to exist
@Fabian-mu3hq
@Fabian-mu3hq 4 года назад
@@aarongames7034 I need to disappoint you, in interplanetary space there still are thousands of molecules per m^2, in interstellar space a few hundred and even in intergalactic space you can find between 1 and 10 per meter cubed Maybe somewhere in interdimensional space but who knows what that stuff is all about
@chrisawesome3091
@chrisawesome3091 4 года назад
Fabian Widmann I have no clue what the casmir effect is, I am in 8th grade, and when I looked it up, it looks like that is a side affect of quantum fluctuations, not like it can stop quantum fluctuations. I have no doubt you are smart, and I do not mean to sound condescending if I do, I just don’t know how else to phrase it. Pls help explain what you mean if you can, I appreciate it
@Fabian-mu3hq
@Fabian-mu3hq 4 года назад
@@chrisawesome3091 well, I am currently working my first year as a chemist in Austria, and exploring the quantum world is just my hobby so I'm sorry if I get something wrong too, the Casimir effect actually is the result of the non/less existing quantum fluctuations which is simply pushing two plates togheter because there are more on the outside than in between, what I meant is that for a perfect vacuum you would basically have to make a vacuum chamber small enough to not let any quantum fluctuations fit in between, I have no idea how big this could be maybe as small as just 1 Planck volume...
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 3 года назад
It's like the old joke/riddle where a trucker is transporting birds: His truck can only hold 1 ton's worth but he can carry 2 tons because he keeps half of them flapping their wings at any given time. Mythbusters actually tested this myth and found that, no, the weight is unchanged for the simple reason that if the birds are flying they have to exert a downforce equal to their weight in order to stay aloft.
@LordOstrik
@LordOstrik 3 года назад
Uh as I recall they couldn't test that Myth even though they wanted to. But I could be wrong
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 3 года назад
@@LordOstrik I found the Mythbusters video, short version: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lVeP6oqH-Qo.html
@sherk3286
@sherk3286 3 года назад
@@LordOstrik they dont need to test it, its simple physics. The force theyd place on the truck from flapping would be equivalent to their weight
@charlesco7413
@charlesco7413 3 года назад
@@sherk3286 i thought birds flew by generating a semi vacume low pressure above their wing wouldn't the low pressure cancel out the doward force??
@sherk3286
@sherk3286 3 года назад
@@charlesco7413 Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. By generating thrust to lift the birds body it is exacting that same amount of thrust on the truck and air underneath it. At least equivalent to the weight of each bird
@midgefidget5796
@midgefidget5796 4 года назад
I feel so smart when I know the answers and reasons before watching. Sadly, that is amazingly rare for me
@SerunaXI
@SerunaXI 3 года назад
If our education system is doing what it's supposed to be doing, then at a highschool level, a person should be able to gander the answer. Alas, school these days isn't about teaching facts and hard sciences, it's taken over by the new religions who are more intolerant of facts than the last religions to ruin schools.
@playerscience
@playerscience 3 года назад
@@SerunaXI sadly, schools these days only focus on grades.
@invalidaccount6147
@invalidaccount6147 3 года назад
School is a factory from where robots come out. We are brainwashed robots
@ashishdutt1914
@ashishdutt1914 4 года назад
The reason i love him is that he never stretches his videos unnecessarily to 10 minutes like other RU-vidrs.
@velb6399
@velb6399 4 года назад
But the mid roll ads
@tcmtech7515
@tcmtech7515 4 года назад
You mean a irrelevant 3+ minute intro 4 minutes of content followed by a 3 more minute irrelevant outro? Nah. Never seen a video ever do that to get to 10+ minutes. 😇
@sawode8192
@sawode8192 4 года назад
Only to 9:31!
@minimoogle3335
@minimoogle3335 4 года назад
Nobody:... Raid Shadow Legends: I think we should be the intro and outro of every video here in youtube..
@jgperes
@jgperes 4 года назад
Never got what's wronf with it. Bois deserve their ads
@Darkanight
@Darkanight 4 года назад
I'm really digging on this ''superconductors'' series... it's absolutely amazing. Congratulations!
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 4 года назад
Meanwhile on the Hydraulic Press Channel: "Superconductor" vs hydraulic press.
@lonr373
@lonr373 4 года назад
This guy is genuinely a nice dude. Not many like him. Keep doing what you do best bro
@ed-xs3pu
@ed-xs3pu 4 года назад
Why don't people like him?
@trist-9339
@trist-9339 4 года назад
ed13 i think he meant there arent many like him
@k47marie71
@k47marie71 4 года назад
@@ed-xs3pu 😂😂
@brandonb9452
@brandonb9452 4 года назад
Kura Marie not his fault, original commenter didn’t include a verb in that sentence, which is why I too initially thought “like” was being used as a verb there.
@Anankin12
@Anankin12 4 года назад
Not many like him? WTF
@RaivoltG
@RaivoltG 3 года назад
I'm learning so much from this channel. These videos are very much like questions I would ask my Dad. He passed away so I don't really have anyone to go to. Action Lab is filling in very well. My Dad would have loved this channel. Thank you for all the great videos you do!!
@darkling6
@darkling6 4 года назад
He blinks once for every word he speaks. Good luck unseeing it
@attractspsychos
@attractspsychos 4 года назад
Damn now I see it everytime.
@navysealsman1233
@navysealsman1233 4 года назад
darkling6 Nooooo
@aighti
@aighti 4 года назад
Nooooo
@ericsullivan8004
@ericsullivan8004 4 года назад
Yup, cant unsee it now
@srivatsajoshi4028
@srivatsajoshi4028 4 года назад
Just why?
@skuzlebut82
@skuzlebut82 4 года назад
Before watching, yes, weight does increase. It's magnetism, not anti gravity.
@imadeyoureadthis1
@imadeyoureadthis1 4 года назад
@Howdy Justice how about you watch the video instead of reading the comments and insult others. It's comment section people have conversations about what they saw in the video. That's why comment section exists. So stop spoiling yourself.
@chimsloyalty3880
@chimsloyalty3880 4 года назад
I made you read this exactly
@Clynikal
@Clynikal 4 года назад
Hmmm yes magnetism but also at a more basic level it's force. I like the observation.
@hongry-life
@hongry-life 4 года назад
What effect does the default negative charge of earth vs the default positive charge of the atmosphere above have on 'weight'? (or on any experiment like the (metal on a string?) Foucault pendulum or the experiment in the vid above) What does or is gravity in this?
@imadeyoureadthis1
@imadeyoureadthis1 4 года назад
@Howdy Justice to be clear I did an awesome insult but RU-vid deleted it automatically. You are not an adult yet so you are excused.
@iampxl
@iampxl 4 года назад
6:15 is what you came for
@xzy7196
@xzy7196 4 года назад
What did i came for
@asdfkjhlk34
@asdfkjhlk34 4 года назад
Mohamed Layaah no. This comment is what i came for
@alessiobenvenuto5159
@alessiobenvenuto5159 4 года назад
It was obvious, i came for the vacuum experiment.
@simrandeepsingh13
@simrandeepsingh13 4 года назад
i came to watch the whole video.
@Miner-ny1nm
@Miner-ny1nm 4 года назад
@@simrandeepsingh13 Don't remember asking.
@johntheux9238
@johntheux9238 4 года назад
6:33 How cold is it? Answer: You really need to make sure that your hands are dry.
@joshwiebe7755
@joshwiebe7755 4 года назад
He's got a quick refresh rate
@aureusknighstar2195
@aureusknighstar2195 3 года назад
Imagine being glued to that unless it cools off or medics help you pull your hand off
@sam6007
@sam6007 3 года назад
for those of you who thought it wouldn’t weigh more, the magnet pusses on the other magnets to keep itself in the air, creating more tension on the beacker, which its pushing on the scale
@0ooTheMAXXoo0
@0ooTheMAXXoo0 4 года назад
Nothing touches anything else normally when you place something on the scale. There is no contact normally either. There is mostly empty space with the repulsive forces making it seem like there is anything solid. EM force that acts at a distance is happening to make it seem like there is contact so there really is not much of a difference when you use a superconductor, it is just that the distance between the objects is big enough that we can see it with plain eyes.
@xkaiokanex7781
@xkaiokanex7781 3 года назад
Big brain
@SerunaXI
@SerunaXI 3 года назад
All of these experiments have to account for gravity as well.
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 года назад
Wow, the science behind this is truly fascinating.
@ruthenian.wisdom
@ruthenian.wisdom 4 года назад
Where is the guy with mustache
@jgperes
@jgperes 4 года назад
Why do I see u wverywhere
@prashantsolanki007
@prashantsolanki007 4 года назад
lol thats just third law of motion.
@DocBree13
@DocBree13 4 года назад
Justin Pyle guilty as charged (I’m very well educated, but not in physics)
@PawanTanaySingh
@PawanTanaySingh 4 года назад
The actual fruck man? Do you watch ALL of RU-vid or something?
@revivalofthefittestonlythe2757
@revivalofthefittestonlythe2757 4 года назад
Scale: "cmon guys, thats not funny"
@daunahaze1725
@daunahaze1725 4 года назад
Molecularly
@margowinchester8220
@margowinchester8220 4 года назад
Man, I'd love to still be in high school. I'd DOMINATE a science fair with these videos!
@MammaOVlogs
@MammaOVlogs 4 года назад
That was so repulsive, loved it and was interesting!
@jackwang3006
@jackwang3006 4 года назад
Yes, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
@melchardcaranto4675
@melchardcaranto4675 4 года назад
Hey Action lab, I'm just wondering how does dough give you a static shock? I work at a bakery, and for some random reason everytime I grab the dough, I get zapped.
@HansenSWE
@HansenSWE 4 года назад
It is probably you that give the dough a shock. It's most likely the clothes you wear that rub off some electrons on you and they jump off when you touch another person, a doorhandle or apparently the dough. Or, if it's a metal table you're working on, it could be the dough rubbing on the table and then zapping you. It's not dangerous, neither for you... or the dough. It's just static electricity. It's just some electrons getting rubbed off, charging one thing and then discharging on something else to equalize.
@melchardcaranto4675
@melchardcaranto4675 4 года назад
@@HansenSWE it's a wood table
@HansenSWE
@HansenSWE 4 года назад
​@@melchardcaranto4675 I'm sure it gets annoying after a while, so you could try to discharge the dough on something else before you handle it. Like a large metal spoon with a plastic handle. Just tap it and hold it for a second. If you still get a shock after that, it's probably the fabric you wear. A lot of those synthetic sports t-shirts and stuff can charge you up pretty regularly. Wear cotton. There's plenty of stuff you can do to prevent it.
@johnburakowski61
@johnburakowski61 4 года назад
Wow ! Electric dough . Sounds like something from the 60's . That is puzzling though , if the table is wood , and your not grounded .
@alexkuhn5188
@alexkuhn5188 4 года назад
Melchard Caranto do you enjoy working in the bakery? If you do enjoy working there then that is all that matters.
@jeremyjosh5910
@jeremyjosh5910 4 года назад
Can you please talk a bit about mag levs and the challenges faced when actually using this for transportation in the world today ? Thanksss
@metamorphicorder
@metamorphicorder 4 года назад
It's really really expensive and extremely difficult to engineer. You have to have a superconducting surface that's either the length of your train, which has to be then broken into sections for each car or you have to have one single unit with no cars. The length of such a unit has to be shorter then the radius of a circle of which any curve in your track is a section of so that it can follow the track at speed without derailing, and if you have NO at speed contact surfaces between the track and the train, there's a pretty low limit as to how much lateral movement you can allow the train to have or it will simply get thrown off the field that is essentially your track. Basically, you need long straight track with no curves or turns. You also still have to have some sort of traditional track rail surface because you have to have some way to propel the train and stop it as well. You can use magnetic braking and propulsion to be sure. Either in the track or carried on the train. Doing it in the track is stupid expensive if you want performance that makes it attractive to governments so we are talking speeds over 100 mph and getting toward 300 mph to make this price attractive over cheaper but slower options. Each method has its disadvantages. One, building propulsion into the track is ridiculously expensive. Building it into the train requires a huge power source to be on the train, so either huge batteries or a large generator powered either by traditional fuel sources or nuclear power which is defeating the entire purpose of something like mag lev on one hand and really expensive and possibly dangerous on the other hand. Since we dont have mass producible high temperature superconductors yet, where ever you put your superconductors, you need coolant. And you run into other problems with multi car trains because the breaks between cars produce field gaps in either configuration, field gaps lead to instabilities especially under speed. You have to shore up the gaps with some sort of continuous surface of either magnets or superconductors. This CAN be done but its complicated and expensive. Going with a single long car config with a straight track is much better. This is limited in its applications and its attractiveness. It's actually easier to build the auowr conductors into the train especially in the single car case as it's much easier to cool a smaller amount of superconductors than it is an entire track. But then your have to carry the coolant. Liquid nitrogen is expensive and can be dangerous. a mass containment failure in the passenger compartment would be really really bad and in some cases if the nitrogen displaces the oxygen in the car, everyone could die. This could happen slowly like carbon monoxide poisoning. So you end up building a train with extra steps and more risks and expense. So one way you have to use a lot of superconductors or you have to use a lot of magnets. And then there's mass and speed to consider. the effect described in this video wasn't fully explained. The action of a magnetic field in proximity to a superconductor at critical temperature meaning it's currently capable of super conducting will created heat inside the superconductor. It will raise its temperature. This is a complicated subject but several variables effect what happens. Field strength, mass of both the super conductor and total payload, magnetic flux. If these things become too large, the superconductor can stop being a superconductor. This could be really bad. Kinda like if your airplane stops being an airplane. It's a nice idea but it's really complex to implement. Which is why they arent everywhere.
@Putrefrye
@Putrefrye 4 года назад
Rules today have to be nesecary. Reduced
@joerambo4977
@joerambo4977 4 года назад
It would take quantum generators to power and if you developed one of them then the same thing would happen to you that happened to Nick Tesla but there's still so many things to over come to make it effective and efficient
@jetison333
@jetison333 4 года назад
@@joerambo4977 what's a "quantum generator"?
@metamorphicorder
@metamorphicorder 4 года назад
@@joerambo4977 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maglev They exist and there's no need for quantum generators. Whatever that is. It's just not a really economic endeavor compared to other methods of doing the same thing.
@ericpinckney2319
@ericpinckney2319 4 года назад
Keep up these videos! They have been really awesome lately
@i_am_the_monkey_king
@i_am_the_monkey_king 4 года назад
7:13 The way most people understand 'levitation' is that it's a kind of force that keeps something from falling back on the ground and instead stays in a certain amount of distance from the ground unless whatever force is responsible for such phenomena is increased. So it's like an object being lifted off the ground by some invisible force. Like a balloon with an invisible string tied to a pen. Making the pen itself to have zero weight if it was to be placed directly over a scale. In this case, it's a magnetic force that's making an object levitate. Meaning, the one that's lifting the object isn't something like a balloon, but more like a jack or a crane. The weight is just shifted somewhere else, but still has to touch the ground. Hence, the weight doesn't change at all. I've always wanted to find the conclusion of this experiment. But, I couldn't get a hold of some liquid nitrogen. Haha
@89qwyg9yqa34t
@89qwyg9yqa34t 3 года назад
When doing vacuum tests, it would be useful to have a tank already loaded with vacuum for the purpose of pulling air out quickly before you switch to the pump. Second, the experiment essentially becomes "does temperature still increase in a vacuum?" -- or you could ask "is there any way to prevent temperatures from increasing in a vacuum on Earth?"
@goodtreeministries3751
@goodtreeministries3751 3 года назад
No. Temperature can be transmitted via a vacuum. Think the sun to the earth.
@_Killkor
@_Killkor 4 года назад
I like, how it went from "yeah, the superconductor affects the scale's reading" to "you've never truly touched anything in your life" Unless (technically), when you've poured some reactive chemicals onto your skin. The chemical reactions with our skin are probably the closest things to a true touch, we'll ever experience. An almost perfect touch would be a nuclear fusion (it's not perfect, because there's still some repulsion in-between the subatomic particles). Maybe it's for the good, since we really don't want to fuse with everything around us.
@Clynikal
@Clynikal 4 года назад
Killkor it's such a great illustration of the theory. I completely agree.
@mercymercti0zeaz738
@mercymercti0zeaz738 4 года назад
That's not true I wanna fuse to my bed and be with it for eternity 😂
@nowonmetube
@nowonmetube 4 года назад
The perfect touch would be in a black hole 🔥🔥
@_Killkor
@_Killkor 4 года назад
@@nowonmetube In the singularity, perhaps Touch: Level 1 - the normal touch (electromagnetic forces keep the atoms separate) Level 2 - chemical reaction (atoms exchange their electrons and form new bonds) Level 3 - nuclear fusion (atomic nuclei fuse together, new elements are made) Level 4 - degenerate matter (the nuclei collapse into neutrons, or the quarks form, f.e. strange quarks) Level 5 - singularity (f.e. black holes) - a.k.a. the perfect touch
@demandred1957
@demandred1957 4 года назад
@@_Killkor That's a really good way to picture things.
@Sid-ix5qr
@Sid-ix5qr 4 года назад
*Puts liquid nitrogen. Me: Science is Cool!
@offmetagamer5887
@offmetagamer5887 4 года назад
I feel like the effects of gravity on the first two experiments were largely ignored. Just because a quantum lock was in effect doesn't mean that gravity stops effecting the magnet or the superconductor, even if they are in a vacuum.
@ethanlammers2363
@ethanlammers2363 3 года назад
Exactly what I was thinking
@deanlawson6880
@deanlawson6880 4 года назад
Okay That's a really cool series of little experiments with superconductor and magnets! I wouldn't have thought that weight would translate directly from objects on top of a magnetically suspended superconductor.. Makes sense though! Really cool series of tests of this concept!!
@SamTheBattleshipp
@SamTheBattleshipp 4 года назад
I must say that these multi-episodes on superconductors are great! Keep up the experimenting and science tests. Thanks for the videos!
@GhostShip94
@GhostShip94 4 года назад
Before watching, I'd assume so. Every force has an equal and opposite reaction. The superconductor has weight and it's being suspended by the relationship between it and the magnet.
@ripsad1847
@ripsad1847 4 года назад
It is so interesting to watch your videos!
@nickolasdiamond5619
@nickolasdiamond5619 4 года назад
This guy is not gonna survive against SCP 173 that's for sure.
@unusanusshalllive457
@unusanusshalllive457 4 года назад
Dude
@aureusknighstar2195
@aureusknighstar2195 3 года назад
Wow
@david_ce
@david_ce 3 года назад
Underrated comment
@motifity3416
@motifity3416 3 года назад
Unexpected SCP reference but yeah IG you're right
@aaronmicalowe
@aaronmicalowe 4 года назад
That's a good point at the end that we often forget. Everything ever placed on a scale was already levitating on a bed of repulsed electrons. Every time you walk you are actually levitating :o) You never truly "touch" anything (if you think of touch as physical contact).
@omgoleus
@omgoleus 2 года назад
It makes me sad that anyone even needed to ask this question, but I’m glad this video answered it well
@tylerwilliams3229
@tylerwilliams3229 4 года назад
Try! Balancing a super conductor on a spherical magnet???
@MatteoLorandi
@MatteoLorandi 4 года назад
3:45 I thought my Wi-Fi wasn’t working
@Me-sx2dm
@Me-sx2dm 4 года назад
Me too
@maruftim
@maruftim 4 года назад
I heard the sound so I thought it was just him
@birbthetopicman2851
@birbthetopicman2851 4 года назад
I swear this guy is blinking some Morse code message, he blinks so much
@maskedredstonerproz
@maskedredstonerproz 4 года назад
I know right
@gregbridgesjr5535
@gregbridgesjr5535 4 года назад
Your video is awesome. It actually made me think about things I never could have imagined with out it. The solar system and orbit. It's a very explanatory video . Good job and hope to see something on quantum cloaking or quantum stealth soon .
@lucymemow
@lucymemow 4 года назад
I love this guy. Since I've first watched a video of his, he just does his thing and gets smarter every video and teaches us. So wholesome.
@spynae
@spynae 4 года назад
Here's a suggestion: accompany your explanations with free-body diagrams. It'll help viewers internalize the way all the various forces interact mechanically, and it especially helps to drill in the whole "normal force" thing. You really do find that a lot of stumbling points boil down to "Did I remember the normal force?"
@Donnerwamp
@Donnerwamp 4 года назад
Just an idea to get to a full vacuum quicker: Pulling a vacuum in a "side chamber" (a tank or something), connecting it to the main chamber, pulling a slight vacuum in the main chamber to close it, opening the valve to the side chamber and when both chambers are at equilibrium, continue with the pump. It might not work in practice, but in my head it sounds pretty reasonable and faster.
@Ygr3ku
@Ygr3ku 4 года назад
Overall it won't be quicker, since you have to pull a vacuum in the "side chamber" in the first place. But it will be quicker if he uses a bigger pump.
@microdesigns2000
@microdesigns2000 4 года назад
@@Ygr3ku actually, overall it would be quicker because the pump would be working on something useful while he is talking and setting up the test.
@Ygr3ku
@Ygr3ku 4 года назад
@@microdesigns2000 Overall=Looking at the big picture. So ... if you look at the big picture, aka him pumping air out of 2 containers, it's slower than pumping air from only one. Even if you say that he only has to start the pump, setting that second container takes time, thus less efficient. BUT ... if you only consider the time needed for getting vacuum in his useful container using his 2 chamber setup, then yes, it might be quicker.
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 4 года назад
Levitate both superconductor & liquid nitrogen with container at the same time! I guess you didn't see my comment on last video??? Connect the superconductor to the inside of container. Fill container up with liquid nitrogen. Place superconductor and liquid nitrogen with connected container under the magnet.... PLEASE. It would be so cool! Literally cool! :-)
@sourabhperuri1698
@sourabhperuri1698 4 года назад
Same question
@kennethbeverley1296
@kennethbeverley1296 3 года назад
Probably my favorite Science channel. I really enjoy the experiments. You do a great job of explaining what is going on as well. Thank you and keep it up.
@VyvienneEaux
@VyvienneEaux 4 года назад
It should increase, due to Newton's third law. Quantum locking occurs because the electrical resistivity of the substance drops to zero below a certain temperature threshold, and so the magnetic flux generated by bringing the superconductor close to the magnet induces an electric current in the superconductor and corresponding magnetic field that continues perpetually, keeping the object fixed in the exact location and orientation corresponding the the field. Interestingly, magnetic fields can do no work. In order to maintain stable levitation, the magnetic "force" from the magnetics keeping the object suspended should be equal to the object's weight, and so the reaction "force" should transmit the object's weight to the surface supporting the magnets.
@multifacetedabnormal4951
@multifacetedabnormal4951 4 года назад
For that last bit where he was trying to explain the weight of it all, one could sum it up rather nicely by saying, “for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.”
@Starioshka
@Starioshka 3 года назад
Dumb and pointless way of explaining it.
@multifacetedabnormal4951
@multifacetedabnormal4951 3 года назад
@@Starioshka Newton might, along with me, disagree.
@Starioshka
@Starioshka 3 года назад
@@multifacetedabnormal4951 It's not wrong but lacking in substance. "Why does the balloon go up" "Because it counteracts gravity" ???
@multifacetedabnormal4951
@multifacetedabnormal4951 3 года назад
@@Starioshka How is it lacking in substance. The whole spiel of what they said reduces to newton's third law. They gave a long winded explanation for a simple understanding and you say it lacks substance? It's reducing the answer to its simplest terms which is what a good scientist does. And the balloon doesn't counteract gravity. It uses it. That's how we get atmospheric density which is the reason the balloon rises to a point. We even know why it stops moving up. Helium is a lighter substance and thus it floats on top of others until it's stopped. Anyone who says that this is counteracting gravity just doesn't understand the subject matter. My jumping is a counteraction of gravity via work as I'm in a stable density. The balloon isn't. So not only are you wrong: you're wrong twice.
@Starioshka
@Starioshka 3 года назад
@@multifacetedabnormal4951 You need some more time with reading comprehension mate. You said "the balloon counteracts gravity" I never claimed such a stupid thing.
@spencerweaver7477
@spencerweaver7477 3 года назад
I would like to know if the magnetic field can be picked up on the scale. Like if you weighed the superconductor and everything else and then measured again with the superconductor hovering.
@benjaminchen4367
@benjaminchen4367 3 года назад
Isn't that what he did
@Fabian-mu3hq
@Fabian-mu3hq 4 года назад
The faster evaporation of the LN is actually cooling it down further than the "normal" Boiling point of LN Also: What I am Wondering is: can you measure the wheightlos by photon emission of a flashlight?
@yaykruser
@yaykruser 4 года назад
Fabian Widmann I think it would get heavier when you put the flashlight on , becaause of requoil...
@yaykruser
@yaykruser 4 года назад
I also dont think energy has a mass...
@jerry3790
@jerry3790 4 года назад
Yay KRUSER That is true but energy is also equivalent to mass so anything emitting photons would lose mass. This could possibly be detected by weighing a battery before and after draining it, as the battery is the power source of a flashlight.
@DANGJOS
@DANGJOS 4 года назад
@@yaykruser Not if you lay it on its side
@DANGJOS
@DANGJOS 4 года назад
@@jerry3790 The change in mass from a discharging battery or flashlight is far too little to measure. *mc^2* is a *huge* number.
@danieljensen2626
@danieljensen2626 4 года назад
I think the superconductor heating up in the first part is really just because there is actually plenty of air for most of the time it's in there since the pump takes a while, and also thermal radiation. The liquid nitrogen should provide the same amount of cooling regardless of how quickly it boils, so while it may boil faster the puck should be extra cold when it finishes boiling.
@sidkemp4672
@sidkemp4672 4 года назад
These are really good demonstrations and explanations. I believe, though, that you can step it up and teach experimental science. For the work with the vacuum chamber, two things are needed to turn demonstration to experiment. First of all, measurement. Run a timer and show how long the superconducting lasts. Second, a control. Do the same experiment with the box open, or closed but no pump. Compare the times. The levitation on the scale was closer to an experiment, as you did show the weights as measurement. You could easily have provided a control by putting one regular magnet on the scale then pressing down from above with another opposing regular magnet, so the South-South opposition would increase weight on the scale. In both cases, summarizing with a data table or a graph would have been excellent. Please keep up the good work. I hope you will also begin to demonstrate the difference between demonstrations and genuine experimental science.
@indragmail
@indragmail 4 года назад
the result is too obvious. we want to know whether our phone's weight increased after saving this video.
@alessiobenvenuto5159
@alessiobenvenuto5159 4 года назад
No
@senku3288
@senku3288 4 года назад
Calm down guyss i think it was a joke +__+
@hrgwea
@hrgwea 4 года назад
@tyler A hard drive cannot be empty of data. It always contains zeros and ones. Even when the device is clean from the factory, it still contains zeros. So you are not adding anything to it by storing new information. You are only changing its internal state. There can't be an increase in mass by changing switches from position 0 to position 1 and viceversa.
@axa122
@axa122 4 года назад
Hr Gwea the *BUT* the small capacitor in phones which stores energy (as in stores electrons) would still increase it by a factor of (1/1860)n
@hrgwea
@hrgwea 4 года назад
@AxA12, Electrons moving from one part to another in a circuit don't increase the mass of the circuit. Moreover, the total energy inside the phone decreases as the phone is used. It never increases. The only way for the phone to gain mass is by adding energy to it (by charging it), never by storing information, which is just a change of state.
@fmaion
@fmaion 3 года назад
Hello! Nice experiments. There is one that I wanted to do during my grad, but was not able to. Start slowly and controlling the amount of N2 to cool the superconductor, right to the barrier where it becomes SC. Now if you add a magnet to the system, will it heat and become non SC? (Or you could adding until get the lock and add a magnet or weight). If so, does different magnets (flux) generates different heat? Does different weights produces different heat?
@tresenernemann908
@tresenernemann908 3 года назад
Yo, did you ever get the answer to this? Also, I’m looking into magnetic levitation for my EE, but I need to find equations that describe the relationship between mass /scale and the magnet (be it magnetic field strength etc)
@user-ly3st7pz7n
@user-ly3st7pz7n 4 года назад
2:15 subtitles: [Applause]
@gnostaoticanarchangautand
@gnostaoticanarchangautand 4 года назад
*clap
@thejokestersquad3686
@thejokestersquad3686 4 года назад
*_begins clapping_*
@hrittikkarmakar9483
@hrittikkarmakar9483 3 года назад
Dua Lipa : I'm Levitating Superconductor : And I'm Singing
@RCmies
@RCmies 2 года назад
I would've been really surprised if the weight didn't increase. Honestly I was kind of hoping for that. Then we would've definitely been onto some cool unexplained future quantum physics epicness.
@perihelion7798
@perihelion7798 4 года назад
A great experiment to show that there is no 'free' energy in our universe. All energy is the result of transfer and transition of existing energies. Really good stuff here
@CorleoneSoup
@CorleoneSoup 4 года назад
Perihelion77 so what keeps the earth spinning ???🤔
@perihelion7798
@perihelion7798 4 года назад
@@CorleoneSoup The Earth has a lot of internal things that are very dynamic and spinning, although the Earth's rotation is not constant, but somewhat variable.
@anuman99ful
@anuman99ful 4 года назад
@@CorleoneSoup Inertia. Earth is actually slowing it's rotation speed. One of the major factors for this is the friction between ocean and the ocean floor.
@robertlavedas4964
@robertlavedas4964 4 года назад
Perihelion77 you know 500 years ago it was absolute that the earth is flat, etc... when did you become omnipresent? cause the text books we learn from are so outdated due to the cost of reprints that we teach old, outdated and just plain false info cause it's cheaper, so I figure no one knows absolutely squat, but hey I'm just a old shaman.
@joerambo4977
@joerambo4977 4 года назад
There is free energy and it has been discovered the only people intelligent enough to develop it are intelligent enough to know what would happen to them our government and the oil tycoons would make you disappear
@hotfire2933
@hotfire2933 4 года назад
Quantum locking is the future
@filonin2
@filonin2 4 года назад
The future of what?
@andregon4366
@andregon4366 4 года назад
@@filonin2 yes
@filonin2
@filonin2 4 года назад
@Amir Zia I wasn't talking to you. When someone replies to the OP there is no @yournamehere at the beginning.
@filonin2
@filonin2 4 года назад
@@andregon4366 So it's the future of feta cheese production? Hamster mating habits? Financial nanosecond computing? Everything? Neat!
@filonin2
@filonin2 4 года назад
​@Amir Zia Were you answering for quantum locking or super conductors though? Did you answer my question or his? If you're going to butt-in, be clearer.
@tzwacdastag8223
@tzwacdastag8223 4 года назад
Who else wish to have him as a school teacher
@mayrln
@mayrln 4 года назад
@@justinpyle3415 well. a teacher teaches young kids. they didnt say he should be professor.
@bbarbiter
@bbarbiter 4 года назад
Justin Pyle you do realize this is youtube right? And it's very likely that he doesn't have an entire team of people behind these videos, so don't expect it to be so perfect. The videos he makes are more than sufficient to get his point across, I thought this was obvious.
@gspot6916
@gspot6916 4 года назад
Not me because I would feel sad if he screamed at me :(
@MrMeow-iq7kq
@MrMeow-iq7kq 4 года назад
He'd be great for pre-school math class.... learn to count by the number of blinks he does in a minute. Matching blinks to every word he says.
@chucktaylorii
@chucktaylorii 4 года назад
Wonderful content! You have answered some questions I had about the super conductor. One of your best, most informative videos yet. I really enjoy the more in-depth content you create. Thank you very much for your work and push for higher education
@TechsScience
@TechsScience 4 года назад
I was searching for the second experiment was having this question for long Thanks for this video
@Joege
@Joege 4 года назад
this dude is the best even though people see him as a nerd scientist but people just under estimate all he can do (he could probably blow your house within a second...)
@swr1240
@swr1240 4 года назад
I'm confused as to why anyone would believe the weight wouldn't increase.
@Zoltoks
@Zoltoks 4 года назад
I wouldn't increase if the the scale was in between the dead air space where it floats. But the superconductor isnt strong enough to do that.
@hrgwea
@hrgwea 4 года назад
I'm also kind of clueless about this no-question that's in desperate need of no answer. It would be more interesting to ask whether a bird flying inside a house causes the weight of the house to decrease because the bird is no longer touching the house. The answer is still easy to guess, but at least not so absurdly obvious as the magnetic repulsion thing.
@jerod5636
@jerod5636 4 года назад
Read the comments from the previous video. There was like a 75 long comment argument about it before I gave up. Some of the theories about why it would be weightless were really funny. I hope they see this video.
@jeanette8943
@jeanette8943 4 года назад
I am not as smart as all of you. I was sure it would add weight, but I couldnt explain how. I like learning the hows and whys of things.
@andrewstoddard6717
@andrewstoddard6717 4 года назад
@@hrgwea myth busters tested this. The bird weight does not go away. The reason is the downward thrust of the wings that allows the birds to go up transfers weight.
@marcus3d
@marcus3d 3 года назад
3:01 "Almost a full vacuum, 1/4 of an atmosphere". That's really nowhere near full vacuum. It's about the air density at cruising height of some airplanes, which operate by shuffling air around.
@aroncanapa5796
@aroncanapa5796 3 года назад
Trying real hard to correct something that doesn't need correcting I see
@marcus3d
@marcus3d 3 года назад
@@aroncanapa5796 This is supposed to resemble some kind of sciencey channel, so while I wouldn't correct that for, say, a politician or an influencer I do feel the need for correcting such a blatant untruth here.
@aroncanapa5796
@aroncanapa5796 3 года назад
@@marcus3d well most science people are smart enough to know he's just generalizing when he says almost there and maybe he was referencing the amount of time it would take to be a full vaccuum, it's unnecessary to specify what pressure it's at exactly seeing as we only care what happens at a full vacuum, this isn't a let's see what happens at 3/4 vaccuum channel
@marcus3d
@marcus3d 3 года назад
@@aroncanapa5796 He was nowhere near a full vacuum at any point (and timewise way, way off). You thinking that he reached (nearly) full vacuum at some point clearly shows that he should have specified that he's not going to try this thing in anything resembling a full vacuum, but rather at a bit lower pressure than normal 1 atm.
@aroncanapa5796
@aroncanapa5796 3 года назад
@@marcus3d no it means you have no fucking clue what you are watching, when he said 1/4 of and atmosphere, that meant how much was left until was at full vacuum, grow a god damn brain
@davidschroeder3272
@davidschroeder3272 4 года назад
Great demonstration! I'm curious as to where you bought the superconductor, which looks to be about 3 inches in diameter. The only ones I've been able to find are like an inch in diameter and one eighth inch thick.
@tnk4me4
@tnk4me4 4 года назад
I'm wondering how the scale's mass reading would change if the magnet giving the super conductor normal force was under the scale while the super conductor was above the scale.
@bitslay
@bitslay 4 года назад
Spoiler warning Short answer: yes it does Saved you 10 minutes
@aszi77
@aszi77 4 года назад
wanted to comment the same
@baldbadger7644
@baldbadger7644 4 года назад
Thanks mate
@nomarukaz
@nomarukaz 4 года назад
Nah man i want to seee the experiment you kinda spoil it
@bitslay
@bitslay 4 года назад
@@nomarukaz then see it bro.. Im not forcing u
@bitslay
@bitslay 4 года назад
@@nomarukaz updated my comment so you dont get spoiled
@mystcat3
@mystcat3 4 года назад
Why every video of this guy isnt boring?
@carultch
@carultch Год назад
His channel title is The Action Lab. How could he call himself that, if there weren't a lot of action on his channel?
@brunkage1
@brunkage1 4 года назад
Ur eyes is actually really close to each other
@josephjackson1956
@josephjackson1956 4 года назад
That's so cool! I wonder what kind of new things you can learn from this experiment and how you can apply them in future experiments involving superconductors
@victoryiu1481
@victoryiu1481 3 года назад
Very cool! However, this is to proof the superconductor needs cooling agent (LN2) in order to maintain a low temperature.Can you design an experiment to really show the nature of superconductor in vacuum state?
@thereprehensible435
@thereprehensible435 4 года назад
>Looks at title Me: "Yes. It does. Next?"
@bruceu2274
@bruceu2274 4 года назад
Oh a smart one
@kingstonmrse4154
@kingstonmrse4154 4 года назад
The Reprehensible RU-vid comment section isn’t where you should be showing off your fake Intelligence. Stay in school
@heyimgayalso6129
@heyimgayalso6129 4 года назад
This guy is full of himself
@richardduncan9740
@richardduncan9740 4 года назад
... And yet, here we are.
@maruftim
@maruftim 4 года назад
Oh ok smartie. make a science video please.
@Fuzzy_Noodle
@Fuzzy_Noodle 4 года назад
It’s the whole there is no such thing as weightlessness.
@TheZacdes
@TheZacdes 4 года назад
more accurately "MASSLESSNESS". Weightless yes! As weight varys depending on the strength of gravity.No gravity no weight, but mass remains:/
@jewls-ek9kt
@jewls-ek9kt 4 года назад
This means that if we ever get run over by a magnetic levitating car, we’ll still be squashed. That’s Mind-blowing!
@slavikcher95
@slavikcher95 4 года назад
Not exactly. Anything in between won’t be effected. But if you were holding up the road or what ever else your self then yes it would
@Qui-9
@Qui-9 4 года назад
Yes. The base is holding the weight of what's being levitated by magnetic force instead of buoyancy, impingement or a solid structure, like an invisible spring. Levitation does not mean "weightless", it only means "suspended without direct mechanical contact".
@StilhX
@StilhX 4 года назад
The scale experiment was awesome 👍👍👍
@mrdeafter
@mrdeafter 4 года назад
Newton's Third Law "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction" even if you can't see it still there.
@JF32304
@JF32304 4 года назад
This has actually been killed/debunked. Reactionless drive.
@gbyronpowell
@gbyronpowell 4 года назад
@@JF32304 You're joking, right? Are you referring to a Dean drive? GIT? Come on man, those are on the same level as free energy devices.
@JF32304
@JF32304 4 года назад
@@gbyronpowell you obviously lack the thought process to see how this could be possible. I'm sorry for that. Reactionless drive. Inertia propulsion.
@gbyronpowell
@gbyronpowell 4 года назад
@@JF32304 Right, just like I said. GIT. You know that's been thoroughly shown to be utterly groundless, right? Stop spreading ridiculous delusions.
@JF32304
@JF32304 4 года назад
@@gbyronpowell I'm not talking about GIT... What are you talking about? You're the type of person that if you saw such device working before your very eyes you'd still deny it.
@willisthehy
@willisthehy 4 года назад
Isn’t that that one law were everything has an equal reaction n stuff 😂
@kallewirsch2263
@kallewirsch2263 4 года назад
Yes, exactly correct. Gravity is exerting a force on your body and pushing you down. The ground has to bring up exactly the same force in the opposite direction in order for your body not to fall "through" the ground and be able to stand on the ground. If a ground (eg. quick sand) cannot bring up that force, then there the force of gravity cannot be canceled anymore and you start to accelerate to the center of gravity. The law you are referring to is one of the famous "Newton laws". a) F = m * a b) For every action (=force) there is an equal and opposite reaction. Ond could also argue that the conservation principles are a generalizatio of that one. If a body is motionsless or in uniform linear motion AND we know that there is a force acting on that body, then we have to conclude that there must be another force somwhere which counteracts the first force. Because otherwise the sum of those forces would not equal out to 0, and as the first Newton principle tells us, if there is some remaining force that would lead to an acceleration. But an acceleration is a direct contradiction to the observation, that the body is motionless or in uniform linear motion (which both means: unaccelerated). We know a) the body (doesn't matter if it is a superconductor or not) is motionless b) we know, that the force of gravity is acting upon it therefore we know, that there must be a force counteracting the force of gravity.
@wood_barrel
@wood_barrel 4 года назад
6:05 for the thumbnail. Thank me later.
@dandosapershing6103
@dandosapershing6103 4 года назад
It’s later, thank you
@wood_barrel
@wood_barrel 4 года назад
@@dandosapershing6103 🤣
@dalton6173
@dalton6173 2 года назад
Other option to get to full vacuum so that you can actually prove it's not due to the few remaining oxygen molecules is to soak the sponge in liquid nitrogen as well... Or have it in a little container with a pool of liquid nitrogen around it.
@abramporras7877
@abramporras7877 4 года назад
This dude has taught us so much shit. Crazy how we always want more knowledge no matter what it's about.
@MARS72JJ
@MARS72JJ 4 года назад
Only people who failed high school physics would ask this question.
@MrTangent
@MrTangent 4 года назад
Or, you know, kids who haven’t been through high school yet.
@PhoenixTroy1976
@PhoenixTroy1976 4 года назад
@@MrTangent Or those who are.dumb af. Like me.
@appleormac
@appleormac 4 года назад
or people who didn't take physics in high school...
@aarongames7034
@aarongames7034 4 года назад
No views and 2 likes yeah RU-vid...
@Fabian-mu3hq
@Fabian-mu3hq 4 года назад
Views make the money so they have to be checked more than just likes
@iansherrill1130
@iansherrill1130 4 года назад
Thanks for this great video. Quick question: based on your representation of quantum locking failing in a vacuum, one would assume that quantum locking could not be achieved in outer space. Is that correct? Just to be clear, I don’t mean in space in a ship or something I mean in open space.
@swaggerindrajeet
@swaggerindrajeet Год назад
This youtuber deserves a noble to possess so much knowledge.🤗
@forestpepper3621
@forestpepper3621 4 года назад
Suggestion: try creating the Podkletnov anti-gravity effect by spinning super-conducting disks. I think that would be an awesome Action-Lab experiment.
@WouterVerbruggen
@WouterVerbruggen 4 года назад
The levitation pendulum isn't frictionless at all and also the superconductor puck never touched the magnet. The friction is from hysteresis losses, as the field is constantly changing from the view of the puck. You constantly push flux vortices in the superconductor and pull them out again, which cost energy because these fluxes are pinned (quantum locking). Also, there's gravity. In a pendulum, the vertical position is constantly changing, so gravity is constantly doing work, hence causing friction. And next to the liquid nitrogen quickly evaporating and not provide cooling anymore, there's also a very sizable heat load from thermal radiation. Remember radiation heat load goes with the temperature to the power 4, and we have quite a large temperature difference here.
@alext8828
@alext8828 4 года назад
Yup.
@dunckeroo1987
@dunckeroo1987 4 года назад
1. Even in a vacuum the super conductor will be bombarded with radiant heat, from the surroundings. 2. A swinging pendulum will dissipate energy into the support structure, that at best is only semi-rigid. The more rigid and well anchored the hanger, the longer the swinging time. Engineers call this the "Q" of the mechanical circuit. Even something like cast iron will absorb vibrations. In the case of the super conductor, the stray magnetic field movement will also impart some of it's energy on to the surrounding environment. In physics do not try to invent 'rational' short cuts : Take a holistic approach where everything is connected.
@VoltisArt
@VoltisArt 3 года назад
Explanation at the end is why extremely polished flat surfaces stick to each other like they're magnetized. Gauge blocks are a good example. A normal non-flat surface (remember the microscopic imperfections in Jurassic Park?) allows some air as a buffer for one object to glide over another, but the more contact can be made, the more the two items start acting like one solid object from more direct interaction between atoms. This cold welding can evidently be a problem in space if two clean objects of similar metal are brought together.
@new-knowledge8040
@new-knowledge8040 4 года назад
The higher you place the super conductor, then less it weighs. Thus if the magnets were so strong that the super conductor was hovering way up in the atmosphere, the total weight would be less. Thus there should be a difference if the superconductor was resting right on the magnets compared to it floating at a distance of some measure above it.
@Sigmaairav
@Sigmaairav 4 года назад
Is there a camera that visualizes magnetic fields in the same manner as a thermal camera visualizing heat? Because I think it would be amazing to observe the superconductor experiments you did in your videos through a magnetic field visualizing camera so that we can see how the fields interact
@bsim621
@bsim621 4 года назад
Before watching, I would say yes, as the suspended object applies force downward via gravity, and the objects weight transfers through to the other object by that downward force because the lower object is resisting the upper object.
@Xelaz_Aughra
@Xelaz_Aughra 4 года назад
If liquid nitrogen evaporates in a low pressure environment, what happens in a pressurized environment?
@michaelhanson5773
@michaelhanson5773 4 года назад
Wouldn't gravity cause it to stop swinging too even if energy wasn't being lost when it hits the edges of the magnetic field? Gravity would pose a downward force so it uses energy to swing up...
@kallewirsch2263
@kallewirsch2263 4 года назад
The (kinetic) energy used to swing up was gained in the swing down part of the swing. So if there were no losses of energy due to friction, a pendulum would swing forever. But of course there is no such thing as frictionless or losses of energy. (With "loss of energy" meaning: eventually converted to heat in some way) The principle of "conservation of energy" is one of the strongest and most important principles in all of physics, technics or engeniering. No one can circumvent it. If you think you did, you only did not watch closely enough to figure out where the energy went or came from. If you search where some energy might have gone, start with the observation that heat can be seen as the wastebucket of energy. So if your measurements show some unexpected imbalance of energy, check what parts in your experiment get warmer - there is your misssing energy.
@shanepye7078
@shanepye7078 4 года назад
Many questions that I've had for years now. I knew the vacuum idea wouldn't work. However, what if it were tidally locked so it were in perpetual dark. The minimum temperature for super conduction is -210. Same as space in the absence of light. With a constant temperature perfect for maintaining super conduction, little to no gravity to influence it, no air resistance of any kind, how long do you think it could move along a circular track? Circular track is important for my next question, how would the flux tubes effect electron flow? Its super conduction, so electrons should flow without resistance therefore, no heat produced. . but could you tap it? We have a circular system with magnets and not just conductors, but super conductors. Sounds like an A/C generator. Could you not rig up a system where the magnets freely float "tethered" by quantum locking to a super conductor that the magnets orbit around. As they do, they pass through conductive coils, just like an A/C generator. But no friction, super conducting, and power requirements are to get it initially spinning. Newton does the rest. Is this even possible to do?
@aashitAgrawal
@aashitAgrawal 4 года назад
I appreciate him for not stretching video to 10min
@I...I___I__I.I___I_.I.I
@I...I___I__I.I___I_.I.I 3 года назад
0:00 yes, even if you levitate a superconductor it will have a weight on the scale, the superconductor is pushed up by a magnet(?) while the superconductor also pushes the magnet(?) with the same force (newton's 3rd law)
@lgl_137noname6
@lgl_137noname6 3 года назад
QUESTIONS : What is the mass of the superconductor standing alone ? Is it 20 grams ? What is the flux density between the magnet and the superconductor ? What is the mass of the total setup WHEN the supercondutor LOSES its wuperconductivity ? Have you tested the same superconductor with magnets with different field strength but with the same mass ? Inquring minds want to know ?
@crudopollo301
@crudopollo301 4 года назад
I was honestly expecting for there to be no weight added, would've been more mind blowing But still pretty cool
@stark1862
@stark1862 4 года назад
Don't ever ever stop making videos. This is great!
@BradE500
@BradE500 3 года назад
I’d be curious to see the results had you had a large receiver that you could pull a vacuum on prior to setting everything up. That way, you could set things up in the box. Put the lid on. Equalize the vacuum almost instantly..and then isolate the receiver and pull the rest of the air out of just the box.
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