If you're this level of an athlete, yeah worth it. For the average fitness enthusiast, it's worth having it for some time (6 months) to learn, become aware of your sleep habits, drink habits, how hard you really train etc. After that, you can carry on without it. It's just information, data, it doesn't cause anything, and often tells you what you already know, as I said, how much further those extra interesting details will help you vs the athlete... minimal, I should think. Plus, £30 a month is a bit steep (it's worth the tech, great business model for them), better putting that money towards quality nutrition.
100% agree. I had one and it was interesting to see the data. However I’m not going to let the data tell me hard I’m going to push in the gym. Additionally the strain doesn’t really work for bodybuilding/lifting weights.
Was going to say the exactly same - also you can just use your smart phone / watch etc. As long as the data comes from the same device it'll all be relative to that. So you can still see if you're falling behind on your step count / sleep etc. It may not be as accurate but still data to show your health trends over a time period.
@@greaterthansage I initially got it to let the strain/recovery scores guide me on which days to push it and when not, but it doesn't correlate at all I feel I definitely learned from the sleep habits, latency, how much time unconscious disturbances take from you, what pre-bed time rituals correlate with higher scores, but I don't need to keep paying £30 a month to know that indefinitely.
$30 is 5 Starbucks coffee or Hulu and Netflix subscription. It’s preference forsure. The best thing it has vs an Apple Watch is the fact you never have to take it off to charge. But it’s definitely a personal decision. If you’re not totally dialed in and want to know a shit ton of stuff there are other options available. I used the very first one and really enjoyed it but it has pros/cons just like anything else.
You have been working-out / exercising at a relatively high level for years without one of these tracking devices. I am wondering what it is that you think that it will do for you at this stage (other than help you from a sponsorship perspective)? You know how to eat well i.e. you know the “macros,” and I’m sure that you knew the importance of good sleep. So, is the point of the tracker; 1) To get you to the next level in your training? 2) Just another “cool” device that everyone thinks they need? 3) Or something else? I exercise regularly and am in pretty good shape (for being 54) if I do say so for myself. I just don’t see what a tracker is going to do for me, other than give me a bunch of “data” to freak out about. LOVE your channel, love the videos…I’ve been a subscriber since your early days…love to see you doing well!
Knowing the importance of good sleep and getting good sleep are two separate things. No matter what, you want to improve everything in life by 1% better and after a while, you can become even better. I used to have translucent curtains in my bedroom for years, then switched to black out ones, been getting way better sleep ever since.
Sleep is everything. It is like the Limitless drug. Why not get more of it? Your workout will be better. Your mood will be better. Energy, memory, attention, testosterone, strength, focus, relationships, mental health, blood pressure, lower risk of disease and death, everything will be better. And it’s fucking free.
i wear the Garmin fenix 6 pro. It tracks my VO2, my sleep, my heart rate (how accurate it is questionable), steps, calories used during workout, recovery time after a hard day, Body battery. Basically all the things the whoop does plus tells the time and has some smart features etc. Like the Whoop or anything like that you have to take it with a grain of salt. Though I dont focus on weights my focus is on endurance running, cycling (all forms Road and mountain) and swimming so my requirements would be different to Mikes. Like all these technologies they are used as a guide and not to be taken as gospel.
Regarding cost comparison. We must consider the battery in an Oura ring only lasts approximately 2 years and IS NOT covered under the Gen3 warranty - so a recurring Oura cost of £300 every two years. Changes how the subscription model looks!
I have had this since January this year thanks to you Mike and honestly it’s a game changer, really helped me improve myself, sleep and get the most out of me! And Yh the alcohol 100% gets me in red and terrible recovery
Not sure if Mike reads these but I'm curious, what happened with his rotator cuff a few years ago? Did he end up getting surgery? Or just rehab and good to go
So strange you brought this up. I've been having some shoulder trouble recently (think it's an impingement) and watched his video recently on his cuff injury from a few years ago in the UK
Thanks for the update on the whoop whoop 🙌 band - your looking much more healthier. Sleep is vital for progression which I’ve also learnt slowly..plus Mike your forearms look bigger Gssss..need to get like that 👍
Like: I like that it doesn’t have a screen, and everything is on the phone app. Nothing to get scratched and damaged wearing it day to day, like what could happen with an Apple Watch. Dislike: I don’t like that you can’t use it free without paying monthly.. what if I want to buy it for $360 and use the app free? Nope no thanks. Nah I’m good with my Apple Watch series 7, does everything I need it to do and much more. One time purchase and it’s ready when you are.
It sent me up the wall. As am a over thinker. And kept checking it each morning. So I got rid as it became to much. However for the right person. It’s a great device and very in-depth. All my friends have them. And love it.
Just a quick comment on the narrative around "this is just a cool app that just drops some data in a cool way". At the elite level you worry about optimizing everything to maximize the gains, even if it's just a small percentage. Tracking sleep will help optimize sleep. Even if you didn't use an app, just the fact of tracking it in a peace of paper would already help. In psychological therapy we have observed that tracking a behaviour already influences that behaviour positively (tracking calories, tracking cigarettes, tracking spending...) and this app can help with that. Elite level lifters worry about meal frequency details, like eating 4-5 times a day with a specific % of protein in each meal, placing carbs around workouts, having a intra-workout drink with EAA's to make sure there is not a small drop in energy levels affecting the training. These things are details, but they matter when you try to go from 97% to 99%. Yes, 80% comes from basic stuff like training hard and eating well. But I also know that if I optimized sleep, and other things like hydration I could probably gain 1 extra kg of muscle during the year
Quality!! Getting one of these for when I hit my winter training on the bike, hopefully it will provide me more insight to help me put a plan in place to reduce fatigue when training around being a first time Dad
Mike is an amazing and inspiring fitness influencer. Great physique and personality. I absolutely love his lifestyle videos. They are very realistic and show you how things actually are behind the scenes. Mike has proven to me that chasing aesthetics is the way to go. Having a healthy-looking, beautiful, symmetrical and balanced physique is much more rewarding (in terms of women, socias status, appreance, etc) and healthier for you than going for the overly-massive, inflated bodybuilding look. As a guy with many years in the field, I always say, when asked, that one of the best things you can do as a lifter interested in aesthetics and performance is to study the philosophy of Old-School bodybuilders. Old-School bodybuilders were ingenious physique architects. They had a profound knowledge of the principles of proper nutrition, smart supplementation, exercise science and muscle adaptability. If you combine Old-School bodybuilding wisdom with modern, evidence-based science, it's the best, safest, most effective way in achieving a strong, sexy, healthy and aesthetic physique. Vintage Physique by George Kelly is a nice read on the topic.
I have had the OURA Ring Gen. 3 and I was enjoying it with a single drawback which made me order the Whoop 4.0 and that is activity tracking. Oura doesn't instantly track your walking and it doesn't automatically track your lifting and swimming sessions like at all and to me this is important.
I did a lot of research about all these fitness trackers one month ago. I ended up buying the Fitbit charge 5. I am really happy about that decision. Long battery life (7 days +), step count, calorie count, gps for bike/walk/run tracking, amazing sleep analyze and much more. I can highly recommend it.
I believe the most accurate way to calculate calories burnt is through the scientific method used by those into energetics sciences as mentioned in the book BURN by Herman Pontzer, PhD
I try to stay away from monthly subscription. So whoop is not for me. I have a Garmin Vivoactive 4 and it's counts steps, tells time, give me distance when I walk, run, bike, Tells me denivelation, gives me my sleep quality and even is a golf GPS. Thanks for the info Mike for your very honest appreciation of the device
To quote Roger Horton “with our digital watch you can count steps and sleeping schedules and other stuff nobody cared about 10 years ago but you do now because we told you to” lmao
I just ordered mine, I hate the subscription concept but what can you do. I average 4 to 5 hours every night. I’m excited to see what this will show me, and hope I can improve.
I used first Gen and found out I had sleep apnea after seeing how my sleep was so fucked. Had I not grabbed it I probably would’ve never got a sleep study done. It’s a very niche item but it’s cool if it’s why you’re looking for.
Very helpful overview Why not a Garmin watch to get step counter / more detailed sport info too, on top of all the Whoop functionality? Battery life more like a week Of course Apple and Garmin still need to add CGM functionality (like a Veri)
Anyone watching who wants a cheaper option, the Fitbit 4.0 is more affordable (£120ish, +£7/month after 90 day free trial) and gives you the following: Heart Rate & variability during sleep, Oxygen sats, Light/Deep/REM sleep, Overall sleep score, Time asleep/disturbances. It does a load of other things too but I mainly use it for sleep, had it for 10 months and can confirm it is worth it if whoop is a bit much ☺️
hi mike. Recently subscribed and enjoying your content. I received the Fitbit Versa 2 last summer as a gift and doubted its value. Boy was I wrong. The data/feedback on my workouts, activity, sleep and calories in/out has been invaluble in my weight loss. Love it!
Great review, You gotta try the Oura though! Stylish AF. Yes it scratches but that's only on the bottom which you don't see anyway. Also the normal silver oura ring shows less scratch marks than the stealth black ring which is more expensive.
Been following you for a good while Mike. Thanks for putting out these awesome videos brother. I watch your videos to get motivated and continue working out specially the days I don't feel like working out. Keep at it brother. Respect!
I just got a free trial, just wondering if i hit the gym do I have to do something in the app to start counting the calories, effort and all of that? or just let it do its thing and not worry about starting a training like I usually do with my Apple Watch
Nice video, but I downloaded a bundle on my apple watch which include autosleep and heartwatch. This gives an in depth summary of your sleep and of your heart rate throughout the day. So for apple watch users its really good!
its nice that we get a lot of analysis for your sleep but how accurate is it??? I always have this question about these kind of products. I wish there was some kind of accurate measurement of your sleep you could compare this band to.
You can’t wear a ring for workouts. I chose Oura however because for the kind of workouts I do, weightlifting, the strain tracking at the moment is not good. I think Whoop bought a company that could make their next device better but we will have to see. On the other hand, for sleep I think Oura is better. Has a lot of insights related to it.
So you get all his youtube content for free but complain about him trying to monetize so that he can continue to offer the content that you like. RIP logic. How about you stop complaining and start supporting for a change?
Does anyone who have heavily tattooed wrists use this? Do you have issues with heart rate tracking? I have an Apple Watch and can’t use it correctly because of my tattoos. It keeps thinking I’m taking my Apple Watch off.
It's pretty useless for weight training since it measures cardiovascular strain (lifting exercises don't get hard because you're out of breath, it's because your muscles get tired which this device doesn't measure). If you do a lot of cardio, this is good. If you barely do any cardio and only weight lift, this isn't gonna be useful for that. For sleep it's worth it imo, it's way more comfier than eg. a watch
i used your code and iv been loving it so far. only thing i would say is i dont really think its worth £30 a month. i think if they charged £30 for like 6 months and then reduced it to say £15 i would feel satisfied with the price. im now spamming all my mates to get them to sign up so i can get an extra month free.
Mike is a great inspiration for me. We both are the same age and i always find something on this channel to help me health wise in the long term....your looking good and healthy mate..maybe its me but seems you've lost just a little shoulder and pec size recently? Due to injury or just a different workout and diet? thanks again for all you do!
Most preferred the super chiseled format like a trite Murti type for BodyBuild Create look Colonel Hogan. But certainly - vibrant flowing Dynamicism deity-kind will up current. Yeah, yeah, always watch for those feet and calve with you if you keep standing in one spot holding your gnannies. Unsure cookies them.
@@kevinchurn8470 mike has various streams of income and makes money off of making RU-vid videos. He doesn’t need to make an ad that is 13 minutes long, he will make money regardless
Be absolutely clear that Whoop’s sleep tracker is highly flawed. Last night it recorded that I was “awake” for 4 hours and 35 minutes. Absolute nonsense.
So I’m considering getting the whoop 4.0, coming from a Apple Watch user. My question is I’ve seen where it’s not specifically that great in weightlifting, and I’m not really getting it just for that but that’s what I do the most is lift in a gym , I’m obese and I’ve been on weight loss journey for a while and really im just tired of the Apple Watch, I think it’s a distraction from my everyday life , I wanna be “less technologically distracted “ and I think the whoop would be that for me, opinions on getting the whoop to not only better my health but track gym workouts as well??
$30 a month is a total deal breaker. I own an Amazfit samrtwatch, it costs around $130, zero monthly payment, plenty of health data, AND A SCREEN which this band doesn't have.
just to highlight that the kicks u r wearing are made for running and even though I get the comfy vibe, there are way better options for weight training out there the foam in the midsole must have turned into grass by now
Massive waste or money just to tell you your sleep, doesn’t count steps, and I found that’s days it told me my recovery wasn’t the best we’re my best sessions
$5-7 a month for the data would be worth it. $30 is insane. This is the type of review you see from an influencer that is more interested in selling a product than his audience.
To everyone whose complaining about ads why don't you pay Mike directly on Patreon to just make the content you want. Love the arrogance of RU-vid viewers who get free content and then complain when a RU-vidr tries to monetize anything. Unless you're paying him, stfu, life is about making money and if a good product fits your lifestyle and at the same time it would be good for your audience why not discuss it.
He already monetizes every single video he makes with sponsorships and advertisements in the video. This is a step too far because it is an entire 13 minute video that is just an ad.
just because the subscription model is the way it is going doesnt make it a good thing, only because we are slowly conditioned to believe it is a good thing and that is only for the company profiting from this. Subscription models are the biggest scam on the planet
It’s a gimic, sort of. They track it by monitoring things like heart rate etc, to “assume”. The only way you will accurately get your sleep/rem cycles monitored is by going into an actual sleep lab which uses multimillion dollar equipment as opposed to a wrist watch lol
