Does This Roller Coaster Make Sense at Six Flags Great Adventure? - Ride & Capacity Analysis 

I think if this ride is the case, regarding its capacity we could see a 7 car version. It would probably be way less R&D to add on that 7th car, and could boost the capacity to 924pph.

I agree, I think theming this to Mr. Freeze in homage to Batman and Robin: The Chiller would be a really nice touch.

A dueling Super Boomerang

In my opinion, yes. The only launch coaster that we have right now is Kingda Ka, so it’ll be nice to have one with an actual layout lol

I can’t get over the capacity. Not only is the ride gonna be a GP magnet because it’s location, the fact that it’s the only one in the US makes it even more attractive to the GP and Enthusiasts. If it doesn’t have a turntable I see the line being painful. Still excited regardless looks like a great ride!

This is why I like B&Ms, their capacity is usually really good

Lower capacity = longer lines = more desire for "skip the line" type offerings = more money. Longer lines also keep people in the park longer which also = more money. I'd argue some execs would only care about guest satisfaction if it ultimately led to more revenue. Maybe they came to the conclusion that the pro/cons of lower capacity rides cancel out enough to where it doesn't sway them from adding low-capacity rides.

A Tilt Coaster would’ve been cooler but I’m looking forward to this

Great Adventure is my home park and I completely agree. When I heard the rumor my thought immediately went to its low ride capacity. At least it'll be a holding ground for guests which should lower queues of other rides in the park.

I am SO happy I waited til next year for my east coast(er) adventure! Dorney Park, Six Flags both with new attractions, El Toro back up and running. Gonna be an insane summer

As the 50th anniversary of the park to get another clone is very disappointing as El toro was the last original coaster for great adventure which is insane for a park on this scale. While the competition Hersheypark just a top teir RMC hybrid and Dorney adding a B&M dive. I hope its still a Intamin Blitz or a bigger coaster that great adventure deserves.

Speaking of Cyborg, I'm extremely curious about why that ride didn't work out for the park despite all the hype about the flat ride model online.

If they want to run two trains, the sliding station would be better than the turntable imo. The size of the turntable would be too big to rotate the 24-person train. But anyways I still think they'll operate with just one train tho lol

I miss the Chiller. That was such a fun ride.

Nice, another one of these type. I’m exited to see a new gen vekoma thrill coaster come to america

I have accepted that it’s a super boomerang, however I wanna present an alternative. Vekoma has 2 off the shelf tilt coaster options w around 100/riders per hour capacity. They have 4 inversions 48 inch height requirement And the tilting aspect which fits the teaser of “look down for the best views”

If this is the coaster they get, I hope they have some type of turntable/multiple loading station setup for capacity. The lines when The Chiller was running just one side were horrible.

I would love to see a Mr. Freeze but realistically they’re gonna call it Wonder Woman: Boomerang of Courage

oh bless, I needed a bit of dopamine this morning

Good analysis of the ride site and capacity. Since this was a late addition, there's a possibility this might only be at Great Adventure for 5-7 years. If Six Flags is satisfied with the Ultra Surf at Over Georgia and Great America gets a Vertical LSM Launch for the Buccaneer Battle / go karts area, then an Intamin multi-launch crossing the entrance plaza (including loose article nets) could be a possibility. A coaster of this capacity would make more sense for Six Flags America as a replacement for Firebird. Wouldn't be shocked if the Super Boomerang was relocated there, or even to La Ronde.

Petitioning for the ride to be named Chilled Lightning

It’s funny you mention Joker, cause from my experience that ride consistently has the longest line in the park.

SFOG’s Ultra Surf was also an off the shelf model besides the Super Boomerang. It was originally supposed to go to a park in Vietnam before Six Flags having a last minute decision to buy the attraction for the park that were at the time teasing for it to be revealed at their Coaster Fest event.

Would be super awesome if they pay homage to the chiller and make a dueling boomerang

Nice meeting you last Saturday bro! Keep up the good work

Still team Multi-Launch Intamin but this Super Boomerang does sound more likely and really fun! Vekoma is a good company:)

They could make it a reference to Batman and Robin: The Chiller

My theory is that the parks actually see low capacity as a benefit because it helps sell flash passes. They make these skip the line passes almost required if you want to ride it. 😢

The most six flags thing ever- for the 50th, you get a SUPER BOOMERANG

Orion - 1650 riders per hour. Now Sea World and Hershey's don't publish but you'd have to imagine that Candymonium and Pipeline, Emperor....are all over 1,000 riders per hour. But you're right about the low capacity problem. A lot of newer rides just can't chew through riders like B&M can.

Great to meet you and ride El Toro with you on Saturday. Keep crushing!🤙🏽

5:50 that's my girlfriend and I in the front of Wildcat's Revenge! Thanks for saying hi to us last Monday before the storm. It was great meeting you!

I'm just waiting for you to start a consulting business for parks to give true capacity stats for any new coasters they are considering.

As someone who’s home park is SF New England it sucks we didn’t get anything for our 150th anniversary two years ago. And we need a new coaster, especially a launch.

I kinda like the idea of a DC theme. What would be REALLY cool is if they DID get two of them and put them parallel to each other, but facing the opposite ways, and made it another batman and robin themed ride, maybe even run them to duel... that would be sweet. It would be a good throw back to the Chiller... and probably be much better and much more reliable lol.

I’ll ABSOLUTELY take a new coaster! I got nervous when i heard vekoma boomerang, but this actually looks pretty gnarly.

This looks like a lot of fun. Definitely understand the capacity concerns, but all that aside, I would love to ride it.

They gave away the equation because that’s the current Vekoma Super Boomerang but I see it being a new model just for this park and I mean only this park that duels but in different directions. Both will launch at 70mph while one reaches 60mph or around while the other reaches 50 or around. That’s with the new teaser

I could see the super boomerang come to Great Adventure. I think it would be super unique for America

A B&M gigga would be a reliable capacity monster for enthusiasts and the general public.

Let’s hope it’s not delayed until 2027 due to them finally deciding to add a turntable mid construction

I love how nerdy this guy is... And when he puts the grating sound on break runs. HILARIOUS!!! :)

They should rebuild Batman and robin. With the modern technology we have now from when the that ride first open, I’m more then sure it wouldn’t have the same launching issues

I was thinking that maybe Vekoma has a pre-existing dueling/racing super boomerang design ready to go, and that it's just not on their website yet. Probably not, but one can dream :)

I think it makes sense as a spectacle investment for the 50th anniversary. The recent renovation to the entry gate + a shuttle coaster that will be dynamic is a smart investment for looks, at a low impact in planning / execution. You mentioned the spot has been home to many shuttle coasters before; maybe the late stage zoning effort applies under existing approval?

On all of my GA visits back in the day, Batman and Robin rarely operated together. Yes, I an old, I ride Lightin Loops too.

I mean; im glad that they are doing SOMETHING for 50th anniversary, but its been soooo long since we’ve had a custom coaster. Though, being able to see it at the entrance, would be a nice visual

Looking at your suggested location, I see one flaw. They just planted that garden area (which is small but gorgeous) right behind cyborg. I think the coaster could still go there, but it would need to be moved so the bottom of the rectangle area more even with the center of cyborg, maybe even tipped a bit, pulling the top right corner to the right / toward the parking lot. That weird no-longer-driveable circular driveway would be lost but is it even needed?

It is noticeable that many parks that have a Fastpass system have built lower-capacity attractions in recent years. This makes economic sense, because longer waiting lines result in more fast passes being sold. In addition, the coasters with lower capacities are usually cheaper to buy. Of course, for regular guests, this is negative because it worsens their experience.

Honestly if I were involved with this I'd be pulling hard for a theme based on the Flashpoint comic run. Just going all in on the queue telling the story of the Flash running so fast he broke time in relation to a roller coaster that sends you through a disorienting shuttle layout with a crazy-looking layout

Man, was hoping for a s+s 4d on the east coast or a mack spinner. Good detective work though eltororyan, you were dead on with top thrill 2

Imagine if we're completely thrown off and RMCs Friday announcement is actually the park's new coaster and it just happens to have the same stats 😂

Six flags is the park that had a Togo pipeline coaster and a dueling launch coaster, they’ll try anything

I think it’s likely that because this was so last minute, it’s very possible that the arena coaster is already being planned and could be coming in 2025

Maybe this is finally the gateway for modern Vekoma to blow up in the US

ElToroRyan, 1. I find it to be a good choice. Now as for capacity, I could see them doing a switch track or turntable so they can have two trains (both Mr. Freeze coasters have a switch track; and I believe there are a couple of Sky Rocket II's that have turntables). 2. And if this does come to pass, it will be the first time since 2001 that anything Vekoma related has opened at a Six Flags park. That year, Batwing (Flying Dutchman) and the trifecta of Deja Vu Giant Inverted Boomerangs opened at Great America, Magic Mountain and Over Georgia. 3. That said, I still see the Northern Star arena being demolished and a Dive going there.

With all the history facing nomenclature these days, it would be cool if they call this ride Lightnin' Loops

I wonder if they could run a longer train on the super boomerang to increase capacity

Everyone is saying capacity is a problem but great adventure seems empty everytime I go. I do use flash pass, but I rode kingda ka like 14 times last visit. The jersey devil, with similar capacity, I rode over and over again, walk-on & off. I don’t think it’s a problem, especially in that empty area of the park.

It does seem to me like having only one of them would be way too low capacity for that park. As you said, even with lightning loops, at least you had two of them. One 24 passenger train, in the middle of summer at Great Adventure is going to make for NIGHTMARE level lines. It'll be damn near impossible to get on it early in the day I'd say... and if I were guessing, even fast pass lines will get pretty long on something with that low of capacity. Id say your projection is actually even kind of high.. if you get right down to it, on an average day, with an average crew... its probably going to be more like 500 per hour would be my guess.

i would much rather have an intamin of roughly the same scale as Pantheon.

Would’ve been cool to call this lighting loops for the 50th anniversary, but I guess it wouldn’t make sense. I would bet on the name being Flash

The ride looks like a blast! Would be awesome to get a ride and have this in the park. Capacity would be rough for sure, here's to hoping they have a fix for it. That aside, solid addition!

This might Be a complete long shot but what is the possibility of them removing the parachutes to do the top thrill 2 conversion to kingda ka for 2025 or beyond? It does line up with the launch track and is just to the outside of green lanterns turn. If that happens I wonder how or if it would affect zumanjaro.

With the 50th anniversary upcoming in 2024, I really thought my home park of Great Adventure was finally going to open a high class new custom layout coaster for the first time in 17 years. Silly me.

I hope they either extend the train and station or add a turntable or switch track in the station. That capacity will definitely hold it back.

I want to see more of those Intamin “Hot Racers”

Hold up your telling me if I went to this park a day later I could’ve met you

SixFlags is possibly getting a dive coaster soon and maybe a Giga

Bring back Musik Express if they’re going for nostalgia of the golden age ❤

Absolutely! This will be so good!

Great analysis and totally agreed that the park needs to improve the capacity of their rides. Would love to see you do a problematic roller coasters video on Jersey Devil.

China already has this beautiful model. It’s called the Cloud Coaster.

Six Flags should make the most out of it and allow two-train operations. Locate the station away from Cyborg, as mentioned in 4:20; there seems to be extra horizontal space for the switch track/turntable/whatever and storage tracks. I've left comments in plenty other videos like this already but I'm just glad that the Rolling Thunder plot of land is still intact. That plot deserves something much bigger. Like maybe that 2025 Intamin. I really want it to be a dueling coaster, but for reasons stated in 9:20, I should probably let go of that dream.

Two major thoughts: First, I agree with everything you say, but I want to theorize on why we're seeing shuttle coasters more often. Each segment of track is traveled twice for double the value of entertainment per dollar in the business mind. They don't care how long customers wait, because it'll just encourage in park purchases and 2 day ticket sales (in fact, I wonder how many parks think about their rides as a "customer wait length" formula, where the sum of "premier" ride wait times across the park are estimated and guaranteed to be longer than any single day's open hours to encourage sales of 2 day passes) because FOMO. Now consider that many will agree that we (and I don't know how big that "we" is) are going into an economic recession, so spending is going to be trimmed at all levels. I don't fault the logic, but I worry they're missing the forest for the trees. Secondly, I agree with the idea of a way to run two trains, not just for passenger throughput, but because it will guarantee that if people are waiting at the gate for any reason, they will always have something to watch and get them excited for capitalism! I can't wait to pay more than I would for a video game that will entertain me for a minimum of 10 hours to access this park for that much time if I'm lucky, only to spend 70% of that time waiting in line for a few minutes of excitement, and will still be wringed for more money in food costs and merchandise. And I don't say this because I want to see Six Flags fail here. My father was working at Great Adventure when he met my mother, so the park has some emotional value to my family, and I enjoy the park as well. I say this so that maybe those that are leading the ship can see what type of company they have painted themselves as, and adjust course to a better place where we can be less pessimistic about being fans.

Ups & doWNs 4 this park in 50 yrs. glad to see coaster in 2024.

2024 YEAR OF THE BOOMERANG VEKOMA IS BACK BABY

they should name it bizarro just to confuse people looking on a park map

Still holding out for an intamin multi launch to be the next coaster🤞. This is alright but a multi launch from intamin would be so much better.

I like to see Vekoma coasters more at parks, and if this is true, this would be great to see more newer generation Vekoma roller coasters in North America. However, I do agree that the capacity is not good for this park, if they were to decide to do one train for this ride. Even though Six Flags Great Adventure already has many high capacity rides, I don't feel that Six Flags staffs enough people at each ride to ensure high capacity. So I'm concerned that this ride will not have a quick moving line if only one train is available and if Six Flags only decides to put minimum staffing at the ride for it to move decently.

This could be an interesting addition. I would say if justice League themed then it will most likely me THE FLASH. And then on a new addition in the future Aquaman. This seems like the only two they don’t have here and they seem to be six flags favorites right now. Also if you haven’t already. Another interesting video idea could be why the park hasn’t utilized the old Rolling Thunder plot for a new coaster? Whether your videos are quickly made or the time put in that’s are all great.

I hope it is not true. It would be a capacity catastrophe. SF would never get one with a turn table on short notice. But I guess we will get one. Compared to other new Vekomas it also looks not that great.

Here we go again putting a piece of coaster and a big park. When are they going to just let loose and put a real full size coaster in these six flags parks.?

This would make much more sense at Six Flags New England to replace the old Goliath plot and Flashback, as a new ride that isn't a flat is desperately needed there! But Six Flags being Six Flags they'll hook up Great Adventure and Magic Mountain, seems like those are the only two parks they care to keep these days! 😂🤷‍♂️

Being this is a coaster that wasn’t there before its going to add good capacity and hopefully will shorten lines on the premiere coasters.

Yea!!! More content

This ride would be good with a Shazam Theme

Why couldn’t it be the RMC wild moose?

I don’t see capacity being the worst thing

Needs a transfer table like Mr. Freeze

Yo dawg, one of my homies who works at hersheypark said he saw you at skyrush the day I was there! He said he didn't say anything to you, but the day I was there was august 7th. I never saw you, but it's cool we were in the park at the same time! You didn't get to see skyrush fanboy on skyrush haha

Having Great Adventure as my home park, I still have yet to ride The Joker and the line for Superman is always incredibly long. Low capacity/ low throughput rides are an absolute nightmare at this park and a single train ride will make it impossible to get a ride in during a visit. Gonna be a huge miss in my opinion if we get this instead of the Intamin multi-launch.

Unfortunately it feels like the era of regularly added big, unique, new additions is a thing of the past. All these mega parks keep buying these mini-thrill coasters that are really meant for smaller parks, like the Raptors and all these Boomerangs. They are too afraid to spend money on a big new addition that is actually good for capacity. It's frustrating as an enthusiast but it is what it is. Guess I'll just keep planning trips to Europe where the exciting things are being built.

This could be a lighting loop triubte

While i was hoping to hear that Intamin had been tapped for somethibg, im kind of glad to see some new generation Vekoma coasters coming to the US. Hopefully the boomerang at KI is coming with a new thrill coaster too, in the next year or 2. Id love to not have to travel very far to ride a new gen Vekoma.

No way two face would be a better villain theme as it goes two ways

2 of the defunct coasters were the best they had!

I don’t buy the super boomerang yet. Connecting 436 to the length of a super boomerang in meters is a stretch. Firstly, on the parks website all the coaster stats are in feet, so why wouldn’t they have have just changed the teaser to feet? Secondly that 436 could be anything: number of footers, something to do with train setup, etc. Also I think the sum of the numbers matters otherwise they wouldn’t have done the teaser this way.

Long lines are good for fast pass sales, get used to low capacity rides folks

a flash theme would make sense because its a launch coaster