Does Your School Matter? 

Words of a wise man

I wish I had your dad.

I'm determined to go to da IVY league cuz I'm da good Asian

Yet i thought my dads words were unique, damnit

+Ozzy Tell that to children in rural africa...

it's still a good country thou.

+The Lunatic Fridge DON'T BE SAD! BEFORE YOU KNOW IT YOU WILL JUMP OUT THE WINDOW! There's a reason blue light is used.

+The Lunatic Fridge My exact same reaction... Hey Switzerland! Neat that they are talking about my... oh... nvm

Lol same with Canada :P

+The Lunatic Fridge Why are northern countries the most depressed ones?

ness that is actually so true

@Gar Wire What

Funny and Sad

@high mountain it is

alaa 57 Nahhhh

I needed this comment. Thank you for making it happen.

Thank you for this

But schools indirectly train us to be afraid to make mistakes with *cough* *cough* grades

This is the point most people are missing from the video tbh. Take it as a competition and try your hardest and if you can’t compete with others so what, you are doing it for yourself to be successful.

My parents always call me retarded, dumb, stupid, and the list goes on... I dont have hope anymore, I was thinking maybe I should kill myself? I mean, it's a quick way out.

You should look to those students as motivation to help you out which is why we always look up to the people with most success

+Avinash Reji true, I try to do that by increasing my competitiveness :P although, your definition of success is probably different from my definition of success To achieve my goal of success, I don't think it's necessary to be super intelligent. I'm sure I can be successful without being super smart :) have a nice day :)

+This Guy true, but I'm fine being average statistically :)

+This Guy have a nice day :)

Bryn Adams

+Zeppelans The basic "stuck in elo hell" concept

+TheGmTom no its something totally different lol.

+Zeppelans Well not necessarily people do thrive and get excellent marks in bad schools and conversely people in private schools fail. It's up to the individual imo.

+Zeppelans There are good and bad teachers at all schools, and it's not like you can interview all the teachers you will have before you go. Also, a bad teacher is not the end of the world. When I was in school, I had a TERRIBLE teacher for one class, but I couldn't drop the class. So I just didn't go, and instead I studied the subject on my own. I got a 70 in that class - not great but I passed.

"Bad schools" are not really bad theyre all schools they're just bad compared to the top 5

Cuz u learn from the smart people?

+McMuffinFluffin No. Because the stupid people won't listen to the smart.

+Jerry Deska SO TRUE im in the latter zone sadly

+Alek Heuvel So true!

man I wish I heard this earlier. thanks for sharing

See anything wrong with that?

+Katzen4u you missed the actual answer

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THey were pressed for time, and ASAPscience focused more on the "A.S.A.P" rather than the "science" Not the best compromise.

In short your school matters, don't let it get to your head.

+Cloe Jarozenski Another thing to keep in mind is that many people get jobs outside of their major. This is particularly true for people completing arts degrees.

Jer Bear Amen!

+Cloe Jarozenski That's why I'm majoring in computer science.

Amelia Hartman Awesome!

***** Because it's a good major and I'm good at it.

JimsReviewRoom T.I.s’ Grand Hustle

Street Smarts > School Smarts

Yes!

@@rubalcavaz Depends, I don't think the street can learn you how to perform open heart surgery, so this statement is so vague that it's just irrelevant.

JimsReviewRoom or do you mean, “school smart vs real life.”

Good schoola give you more connections, good networks and opportunities.

That's basically going to the right school hahaha you'll be well connected going to NYU, Ivy League schools, Stanford, USC...etc

Its not all about the grades you make, but rather the hands you shake. However, a good school with name recognition and whatnot does go a long way in terms of networking. That being said, I have seen many successful people emerge from a lesser known school. Just make sure you have your goals set and be motivated. Employers can often tell if you're BSing your way through something.

Bullshit, I can't be a lawyer, doctor or an architect without a degree. And where do you get degrees? School, that's where. A company, for instance, is more likely to hire a Harvard lawyer than one that went to Stanford. The name of the school gives you more opportunities and the school itself also does.

"Majoring in something that will get you a job" You're just a paper in a box of papers and hoping they'll pick you is careless. Having a track record reasonably nothing that requires formal education like law, engineering, medical, etc. would guarantee you more than being a newbie experience wise.

oh trust me, the teachers also

True

Ernesto H but school is the place though 😒😒👺👺

Ernesto H but school is the place though 👺👺😒😒

And you find smarter people at a better school lol.

+Mark Muhammad Fucking hate these comments "Oh Im in AP astrophysics in 3rd grade and its so boring and bad. lol I wish I was in normal physics, those lower classes have it soo easy" Guess what, no one gives 2 fucking shits. You dont like the program, then drop out of it. Stop fishing for compliments you lil bitch

+The sky is falling because tomatoes are really annoying. but it proves the point of the video people are only happy when they are better off than those around you.

You read my mind omg... Sucks tho :(

Yep pretty much. I have felt the same way

I was (and still am, though who are we kidding, I don't participate. They stopped inviting me to stuff because the know I won't go.) in my school's Gifted program, and I know exactly what you mean. I thought of myself as being pretty smart, and suddenly I'm next to a guy who is two years ahead of everyone else in math and a girl who's a year ahead in French (the hardest language at my school because our teacher is a native speaker) and is self-teaching Spanish. It really beats you down after a while. I'm in the top 7% of my class, but these people make me feel inadequate. I completely understand where you're coming from.

or getting answers

***** just because I had one typomakes me an idiot? To answer that question, no I don't cheat and never have since probably elementary school even then I don't remember cheating at all.

***** Whether i'm an idiot or not at least I do my own work and am honest.

No one cheats in school and gets into Harvard. Regardless of your GPA, Valedictorians get turned down all the time because they do not have the same success in extra curriculars.

Pheonixy YT You're gonna have a bad time

+AsapSCIENCE What school did you guys go to? O:

I failed this year , I can dave informations in my mind

Thank you , I am still in 6th grade but I I'm planning to go to Ohio University (Maybe it's called Ohio state University but I don't know)

+AsapSCIENCE You can't seriously compare publications to being good in school right? Lots of people go work in their field, not study more and write publications.

+AsapSCIENCE And Money and contacts...

comedy gold xd be doctor and lawyer at the age of 20, or never taste the roast cihuahua again!

Lmaooo I have nigerian parents and they only have 4 career choices for me, 1. Lawyer 2. Doctor 3. Engineer 4. A disgrace to society

lol wat? 5. Nigerian prince scammer

I Dumped In A French Horn Haha... CHOKE.

comedy gold xd ikr if I’m not making a six figure salary my parent will disown me

If you're the smartest person in the room you're in the wrong room.

+Alin Banka "in" 😵

'than being the second in Rome'. This is the original quote, man :)

"Malo hic esse primus quam Romae secundus" "I would rather be the first in a village than the second in Rome" - Julius Caesar...

+Jose Maquia wouldn't it be "I prefer to be first here" as hic translates to here

Lol, how did you even focus on that?

foreal

Lol

They pay for themselves. So it's fine.

Anya Rhude its done in a program LMAO

You're welcome, Mom.

+TheSkyHazCloudz that made my day

***** ;)

+ur mom I love sehun!!

+ur mom Tell ur mom to call me!

An expensive car will get you gold-diggers but a least expensive car will get you someone who likes you for who you are but not what you have.

@@binzsta86 Tisk! Tisk!

You’re a genius

Very well put!

You may go to the best school, but will you learn? You may go to the low schools, but will you learn? Those are question that should be on peoples minds.

zapspiders92 Don't forget the crippling depression afterwards.

Hear, hear!

I'm from the UK. What does Ivy League mean.? Is it the same as Russell groups universities which basically mean that the universities are really good?

+nicholas mbugua yeah, it's a group of highly prestigious universities in the eastern US.

The best of the best schools. Top tier. Basically if you go to an Ivy League and your mom has the bumper sticker to prove it... nobody cares... BUT if you want to be a lawyer, doctor, engineer, etc, these are the schools you'd dream of going to and you'll likely find work in your field if you've done well. Other more standard, lower class jobs are filled by people with regrets and large debts for not going to Community College... basically...

SAVAGE

Well it really depends on your profession

+The Aquatic mermaid true

College isnt the only way to have a successful life. Unless it's like a doctor or a lawyer

+Matt Garcya but in most cases not going to college doesn't help give you that push in life

The Aquatic mermaid exactly

what did you major in

Electrical and Computer Engineering

+Trollygag hey thats what I want to do,but only computer engineering, im 17, is it hard getting there?

So true. As long as your motivated and have a degree, for the most part, you're set. With what you went into that's the most important part I feel, with business it's more on who you know and I don't think it really matters unless you're a doctor or surgeon. Even then I bet it's rarely matter. As I'm going into my 4th year, I've come to notice the biggest impact on the college you go to are the people you meet and how you transition into independence and mature into an adult.

+Harambe you're (good thing I'm still in school...)

I couldn't agree more. Almost every higher institution looks at prospective students by their test results, which were obtained when most of us were still unclear of our future. I have the worst GCE O level score in my college class and I can easily rank above people that scored way better than me + were considered 'elite' just by one test result.

i think the UK still ranks based on grades by the school (hence why cambridge and oxford are top) but they have also always been the top and nothing has come close, there are other ways the universities are graded based on student satisfaction and other things (which sometimes are higher than cambridge and Oxford but not often) however the main focus is still on grades and i guess facilities and employability, because if you go to Cambridge or Oxford then youre already in a better position

+Ryan Kupka This is literally the first time I've told anyone, except my family, about my grades. I had to present facts in my argument to prove my point

+Magdalene Germanotta now test scores aren't all you need though. Princeton has one of the lowest acceptance rates of all the universities in the U.S. because it's looks for other statistics like instruments or sports or clubs.

+Lachlan Taylor Harvard and Yale and most Ivy League schools are ranked higher than Oxford or Cambridge

i know right!

+lam cao i thought our exact phrase down to the exclamation point

ikr

+borasanuk and the Mental Floss crew for civics lol

+borasanuk and the Mental Floss crew for civics lol

Exactly

+Sean Magee I learned how to survive on 3 hours of sleep a night. Guess my school was good after all!

Yeah, girls go just to twerk. Guys go just to stare.

It does actually matter what school you go to. If your school has a bad reputation, is unaccredited, and has a high dropout rate it matters.

My primary school was horrendous, but I love my comp now :)

This Guy I'm worried that will happen to me because I'm probably going to a school whose average sat, and GPA scores are much lower than mine for scholarship money.

This Guy Any advice, do you wish you could have gone to a more competitive school.

glass unicorn A formal education isn't (or shouldn't) be your only means of education. While attending your "less than optimal" school, just make sure to delve into what ever your field is, make lots of connections for future job opportunities, and take advantage of being one of the better performing students. Just my opinion.

Exactly

Ambitions can lead you to stupidly expensive decisions. There's more than one way to skin a cat and the most expensive way/the most hyped way might turn out to be the absolute worst way for you.

Agree. Scores don't tell you how smart you are.

+Matthew NotReal There's a correlation.

+TheFruityKing Then what does? Obviously IQ is pointless, scores from an educational setting are the only option we have. If you can't solve problems in school, then what reason do people have to think you can solve them in a job? Many jobs require specific specialization, if you were bad at that specialization in school, can you be expected to be good at that in a job? Even if you go with the whole smart but lazy thing, intelligence doesn't matter if you're too lazy to use it.

Idrialite Yeah....my comment was too broad, let me reiterate. Obviously specializations matter. You gotta know the material of that job. I was referring to scores in a regular ol' school setting, possibly even SATs. Funny thing is, I am that smart but lazy person. There's just no opportunities popping up. Let's just say, I have a different mindset and way of thinking than most people.

Intelligence is define as the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. This is what school does and tests do. You are taught knowledge and shown skills and then tested to see if you can apply them. School and tests scores are a very good way to test intelligence. Although there are exceptions, some people get test anxiety and preform poorly, the exceptions doesn't cause the general to be untrue. Generally speaking school and tests are a good way to measure intelligence. Btw we are speaking of a specific type of intelligence which is the one that is generally referred to.

Teresa Benites Lol the schools that you and your friends go to are probably shit

Hard to believe that u went to a good school and got a good job compared to other pharmacists

John Doe you do know you can transfer your credits to go to a top school and easily get scholarships than going straight to college right? What matters is your experience and qualifications if you don’t have any you’re useless.

@@reinerbraun898 I don't even remember this comment but I am now a pharmacist and work in the ICU at a level 1 trauma center hospital. I got a job immediately after graduating. A for effort in assuming though!

@@Erecura No need for the anxstiness. This was a year ago and I'm a different person with different ideas. Your reply is a little too late.

do you have a study confirming this stereotyped idea with real world data ? it is always a good practice to question what seems obvious. also what do you define as "success" ? having a well paid job ? having a Nobel prize ? being happy living a fulfilling meaningful life ?

Networking can bring success. However, somebody is more than likely not going to network with you if you aren't on their level. The percentage of a person with just an associates from a community college networking with Ivy League mba professionals is extremely low.

@@171TITO everybody on you're flexing their MBA degrees I guarantee you won't even achieve and then you'll look at somebody with just an associate's and be jealous

@@amanieux Having good Money with out having to work aka passive income for the uneducated ones

On Hollywood maybe

The more famous colleges just makes it easier to get a better job, but other than that it really doesnt matter

it's a lot harder to get into top grad schools from an average college then from a top college.

I dont understand why Harvard would admit lower end students any way???

+mahesh katta great question so they can suck the money out of the low end students forever

They're not low end students. This is explained in the 1st minute of the video. The bottom third of the top tier schools STILL have a better SAT score than the top third students at an average school

If you get accepted to Harvard, they go out of their way to help you graduate. There's so many resources at that school to help you...

statistically, it is almost impossible to flunk out of Harvard. Their grade inflation is so high you actually have to try to flunk out.

Same

+thekingofcardboard well i did get art diploma in harvard university sh.st/v4DDt it cost me 5 years!..

+thekingofcardboard And for some schools they already have had around a month of classes by now for their fall semester. So, for those schools it is already around 1/4th the way through.

Black Wishes Shut up, Stewie!

I'm on the same boat except out here in NYC.

At the end of the day, it's YOUR decision, not theirs, just do what makes you happy.

Cristina Miranda the deal is being smart, wait for those UCLA students to work at the same place at you but not going to happy our because they need to pay loans lol

Community Colleges are underrated if anything,it doesn’t deserve the rep it gets.

I was in the same boat as you. I went to a CSU and saved a lot of money by doing so. Now I’m going to USC for grad school & don’t have any undergrad debt. You got this!

or to become a doctor, lawyer, idk dude. and if you want to start a business you still should go to college tho

That's why I said 95%. I never said all so please read. There are about 5% of people who know what they want to do and those require specific training. It's good for doctors, engineers, etc. to go to college. Most others go because they're told to without knowing why. That's why around 75-80% of graduates never use their degree at all. They simply wasted 4-6 years and a ton of money for no reason. Also, no, to start a business you should get experience and learn on your own terms. College doesn't really teach you anything about business. Anything they do teach you can be bought at the bookstore for $40 (instead of $200) and save you 4-5 years of time.

Viet Nguyen triggered, lmfao.... well if you want your business to be successful, then you should go to college to learn how businesses work and good marketing skills...

I have and it didn't help me with my business nor did it help any of my families. I majored in Biology and Business mind you. We learn more working and doing our own study. We learn faster buying our own books and studying on our own time, and cheaper too. Most teacher don't know how to be successful or how to run a business, let alone tell you how to. They're simply reading from a book that you can do too. College is not the answer to everything and you need to understand that. Looking back, I wouldn't have gone to college to get my degrees because I don't touch them right now. The same goes with 80% of people. 70-80% of people who go to college never use their degree.

Viet Nguyen Or you went to a shitty college. I'm not saying you need to go to college, nor do you need to spend thousands on it *even though most places won't employ you without a college degree* I'm just saying, it certainly helps and there's ways to save money and good cheap colleges in some countries/places.

this comment needs to be at de top

God bless you too

FYI, the system is *not* set up as a way to make people feel dumb. Rather it is meant so that everyone, regardless of where their capabilities lie, can receive a proper education and be prepared for the job market. Moreover, once on a route (say, the middle 20%), you can always climb up higher or a bit lower if you please and if you think your capabilities lie elsewhere.

+messianicrogue I can see why such a system could be useful but I don't think it's a good idea to implement such grave diversions at such an early stage in education, especially since the kids can't live on their own in a place where they teach their preferred faculty but also often don't even know what their preference is to begin with

That's really interesting! Thanks for the info, I'm from the US and our school system is nothing like that. If anything, new laws are making it so that everyone, despite their capabilities, is receiving the exact same education and testing, which just doesn't make any sense to me.

+undercoverduck you don't go to a faculty. You go to high school and live with your parents (and go to shool on your bike). My city is not that big but had 11 schools with the middle and high level education and also loads with the lower (but I never oriented on those). I think it was great because in elementary school when I was 10 and my classmates 12 the things taught were too easy for me but too hard for them (we don't have middle school and I skipped a grade). The division in high school makes it so that the pace at school fits your brain's capacity. If you're not a learner but someone who wants to work with his/her hands you go to a lower level, with people of that same level and learn basic stuff and a job. If you're smart and an easy learner you go to an higher level to learn and be educated to full fill a job as, say, scientist or lawyer. Choosing a faculty comes later.

+undercoverduck system in the netherlands is good but if you have a lower education you can only do certain jobs witdch sucks i life in the netherlands to and i am not blessed with smart genens and i cant do things that i like

I recall my sister wanting to be a veterinarian, and she got accepted into some shitty school like Harvard or something and she had to make a choice of that, or a school that actually had a veterinarian major (or whatever). Which she ended up deciding to go to the "lesser" school of Texas A&M. Still spent a lot of money and didn't finish.... Which I don't blame her for. She was always the "straight A" sibling and expected to go and do "great things" and college I think is something way too many high school kids are rushed into. Unless you *REALLY* know what you want before you start. Which may be bad advance, considering many take a "few years off" working and never go back. They could also start with the basic classes, but that in itself has demotivated many college students from continuing, from what I hear.

Thank you. ThankyouThankyou. THANKYOU.

I graduated high school with two free associates degrees from community colleges. The experience of taking the initiative to get those degrees and maintain an internship has allowed me to mature professionally, while also saving me a ton of money financially. I am now set to complete a bachelors degree that will cost me about $1500 or so for two years. I am using these degrees as a safety cushion if I fail at becoming an engineer. (my degrees are drafting and design). So basically I have a fallback CAREER rather than a backup plan. If I attended a university or elite school, I would be drowned in debt as a poor kid and my finances would be forever cursed. I completely agree. My choice was the most financially practical, which means community college. Harvard is for rich kids whose parents like to brag at cocktail parties about sweet nothings. STEM only cares if you pass and can use your skills. Student debt is killer.

Your school doesn't matter but your instructor/professor matters everything. Better schools tend to have better instructors (though not always).

***** School politics can damage a good professor's class.

someone's a little butthurt

except that many ivy league students are on full scholarships or financial assistance, like at Harvard the tuition is about the same as a state school if your parents aren't making like 150k

but if you do your gen Ed at a community college wouldn't you save money than at a university

Alex R Possibly, and if you're living at home going to community that can save a lot. But I'm just saying, there are kids going to ivies for little or nothing because they're smart and work hard, and Harvard can afford it.

You suck at debate/sarcasm. What kind of argument is that, and who's giving you a thumbs up?

i mean they kinda are

No, its how much effort people put in that makes the biggest difference. Time after time I have seen really intelligent students not study at all for anything and still barely manage to pass with mediocre grades. Likewise, I have seen kids who are very incompetent but manage to make up for it with effort and work ethic. It is how much drive people have to succeed that makes the real difference, not how "smart" they are or how good their grades are.

You are completely right. I am so fed up with people thinking they are smart because they get good grades. Our education system is completely flawed. Sure, they are smart at book work but what does that matter at all? Are high schools don't teach you anything you actually need to know in life. All they teach you is this stuff that doesn't matter just for brain activity. And the majority of the kids hate it, and actually decreasing there motivation. Kids with a lot of motivation and effort and kids who don't stop after they fail are the smart kids. Kids who have the work ethic are the smart ones. Kids saying you have to go to college or you wont get a job and you have to have good grades or you wont get a job are stupid. Some of them are stuck up rich kids who's parents will completely pay for their college. These kids are really lazy and do not have the motivation as other kids.

+Nick J completely agree. most book smart people i know are rude, have big egos, think highly of themselves, and they don't have common sense navigating through everyday life. they may have high gpas, but they may be lacking in other areas. i prefer street smart, not exactly book smart, but they have common sense, and can empathize with people more than the "smart" people who can't get their heads out of their asses.

Nick J They're not smart if that's their ethic. Everyone knows working hard and having a good ethic will lead to a good future 99.99999999% of the time. If they were smart they wouldn't risk failing and losing chances to get better connections, schools etc.

Couple thoughts on this: there are many schools that offer need based scholarships, some really good schools do not even consider this when kids are applying (so a kid with less money gets as much of a chance as a rich kid). Of course the poorer kid needs to work harder to get in, but that is life. The rich kids parents worked hard so their son could have an easier life. A dumb rich kid won't get accepted into a really good school. Also companies value internships and experience more than the name on the degree.

Rich kid schools? Do you understand what public school is? I mean, yeah, certain districts hold richer or poorer people because of the neighborhoods, but most don't hold just rich or just pure. In my district, there's one side of it that holds nice housing developments and expensive neighborhoods, and the other side is an absolute dump. Same education for both sides of the district, though.

Scholarship is here for a reason...

TheSkyHazCloudz, wait let me correct myself. Private schools. And I'm not sure if you just don't have it were you are, but schools are very separated. More richer people mostly go to private schools,and/or better public schools. Poor kids, however, go to worst public schools, or just neighborhoods school. So yea, its very separated. Then again, I live in Chicago, and I believe we are of the most segregated cities...

***** you do make a very good point, but I wasn't trying to blame the children for the problem. It's really the parents fault. Some actually do struggle to have money (maybe young parents/divorced parents like mines :'( ) but then there are those moms who I cant stand because they use all the money on themselves. Other then that, I totally agree with you.

The point of honours english or whatever you guys call it; i'm assuming it is to challenge a person to work harder. Pushing a teenagers limit is only good for them. Being lazy and not taking it and using excuses like i don't take it because it gets in the way of my job is stupid. Work, take a difficult class, and do extracurricular at the same time will only boost your knowledge and discipline.

Branching out into extracurricular activities is leaps and bounds more beneficial to a teenager than a "more challenging" English class. Getting into an instrument has been proven to be a significant boost for anyone. Learning woodwork, taking care of animals, joining a sports team, getting good at auto repair, all of these things look way, way better to a university and a potential employer than whether or not your English class was Honors or not, and they stimulate the mind and push its limits much further to boot. Basically, Bloodbath is right, Honors classes are pointless.

I like how the first guy thinks it's "lazy" to take the standard school curriculum while getting a job at the same time.

I would argue otherwise. Firstly, many honors courses are weighted, so they could actually help your GPA. For example, I know the high school I went to still weights their honors classes on a 4.5 scale. That does look better for college applications and academic scholarships. Furthermore, it might doom the student to not try academically, which can be ruinous in college or related academic trials. So, I'd say take an honors class if you're great at the subject and you're fairly confident you can get an A. Don't take it if you're not so good as that can hurt your GPA and your self-confidence.

We're all talking about COLLEGE (which is also the subject of this video), and you're talking about High School, for some reason.

Nice, I completely agree

You're so great.

***** I kinda agree with you. Separating into ¨generations¨ seem a very shallow thing to do, even more in a complex, vast society like today's. But I was just trying to make a point on how behaviors have changed, and how people are driven into certain conducts just because is what the ¨majority¨ does.

+Arturo Rincon Anymore advice on taking it slow? Sounds so simple and effective man.

***** Just give the necessary amount of time to everything you do, don't let anything, no matter how important is, swallow all your time a resources. Diversification is the key.

Sorry to hear that man, you should have researched more about the job outlook on certain types of degrees.

+John Klitsko hindsight is 20/20. you're talking about 2004.

You majored in philosophy that's freaking why

+Cam bam I know but I was a kid when I chose that major. and the internet was not what it is now and neither was college not the economy. it's quite ridiculous to apply today's standards and say "you should have done this instead." no kidding, I should have bought apple stock too.

Most people I know that went to a costly university knew what to do after graduation and parlayed themselves into 6 figure salary careers. You sound like the few that didn't know what to do. Those that know better won't listen to you.

Did you not watch the video, go to Spain

call the national suicide prevention hotline 911

But if the school name helps you get job connections, and you need those job connections for work experience because you need work experience for a good job 10 years down the line, then doesn't the school name matter? I can imagine that when you're applying to STEM internships in college, the only thing you have on your resume is the school you go to, so that holds a lot of weight. Idk tho that's just what I hear as a high school senior.

Because, who cares about who earns more than whom¿ (not sarcasm).

+Pedro Pacheco Um, that's sort of the most relevant metric for everyone not publishing studies (which is the vast majority of college graduates). How much money you make and how easy it is to find a job are really the only two things that matter after leaving university.

+Pedro Pacheco so your answer is "school choice doesn't matter, unless you want to make more money." Lol Uhhh kind of the whole premise of the beginning of the video.

Maybe the author wanted an approximate metric measuring competence caused by education alone. Job placement and salary are more valuable but may be based on other things like people skills, or negotiation. A published work especially one on pure science supposedly stands on its own as a credit to what classes claim to teach.

The problem with this is that you have a higher chance of getting a higher paying job if you do a bunch of internships as well. If you go to a lower tier school, you can be doing up to two or three internships and keep up with the work for school, comparable to someone who is in a higher tier school and can barely pass their classes with no internships. What you do outside of school matter just as much as what you do in school and most would hire the guy who did three internships with a degree.

+Shaheen Jadidi Damn right, you're first two years are more or less a refresher from highschool, plus with community college you get the benefit of small class sizes.

+Shaheen Jadidi In the end I will have a graduate degree from one of the top local universities. Very few people will look at my undergrad work long enough to care that I went to a small college the first four years to save money and take advantage of the school's student success programs, but I like to think those who do will look at it say "There's a responsible choice."

+Heather New Here in FL we have no elite big school, our most prestigious one is UF just because it's old so anyone can go to a CC and transfer there no problem therefore in reality someone that went to a CC for 2 years then transfered to UF studying lets say bushiness admin and you have a kid that went to UF all 4 years studying the same thing they both graduate making the exact same only difference is one saved money

+SoluriZe Unless you're a super poor and lucky kid like me who got a full ride. ;3 But yeah I agree, the only decent school in Florida is UF.

+Shaheen Jadidi I went to a state school for UG and then an ivy for graduate school. Ending up in a job with a mix of ivy and state grad schoolers. Going to an ivy or equivalent is by no means a requirement for success, even at the highest levels of your chosen field. What matters is your determination.

+Des Good luck!

Good luck !!

+Des I'm a great test taker. Just remember to check over your answers a few times so you don't make a stupid mistake. Good luck!

You can't fail. Either way save money, go to community college. You'll thank me in a few years

+Lesly Kirkland you're telling yourself that going to community college is the best option cause that's all you were cut out for... People need to challenge themselves because if not then what's even the point

I would assume so. Would a professor and a community college teach algebra better than a professor at Yale? I used to to wonder about stuff like this

***** well yeah, I'm not saying the connections don't matter because they do, I was just saying that they both teach the same things. You don't get more knowledge from Yale than you would from a community college, but Yale looks better on resumes and they can probably get you better internships.

Doesn't matter much. Go to community college & save $. My CSU professors were also teaching at UC's. Pick the right major & finish it. & you are good to go. :)

Your economics teacher then lied to you. This is first year first semester math course for aspiring math majors in Harvard: www.math.harvard.edu/~elkies/M55a.10/ This is just 1 random homework from the semester due weekly: www.math.harvard.edu/~elkies/M55a.10/p10.pdf " In the class of 1970, only 20 of the 75 students who began the class finished it due to its difficulty.[4] Similar drop-out rates were true for the class of 1976: "Seventy started it, 20 finished it, and only 10 understood it." " ~Math 55 This is first year first QUARTER math course for ALL students regardless of major in CalTech.: www.math.caltech.edu/~2015-16/1term/ma001a/ This is just 1 random homework from the quarter due weekly: www.math.caltech.edu/~nets/ps612015.pdf Answers (EXTREMELY concise meaning most student's work will be more than this): www.math.caltech.edu/~nets/Set_6_solns.pdf Remember, this is a QUARTER math course for ALL students regardless of major. Meaning FAR LESS time than 1 semester to cover the materials. It would be more fair to compare this course + half of the 2nd quarter course to 1 semester course. This is your local community college first year first semester math course (Calculus I): mesacc.edu/~johrx98491/MAT220/MAT220.html ONLY 5 chapters all semester. Content that almost every student attending prestigious universities like CalTech finished in ~10th grade in a far more difficult system. mesacc.edu/~johrx98491/MAT220/MAT220-Chapter4-Review.pdf This is the amount community college learned after almost one month of the course. NOT one week. The contents as you can see is day and night. Courses like Math 55 in Harvard (and many talented math majors even skip this for first year first semester course) require almost 50 hours (if not more sometimes implying you pretty much have barely any sleep all week) outside class of studying a week WITH 4 to 5 other courses (and most of these students join at least 2 extra curricular). Considering many of the drop outs include students like Olympiad world ranked #2 in math, etc. in their respective years, upper level (honors) at Harvard is no joke. Courses like Calculus I in CalTech is a standard pre-req for ALL students and is a quarterly schedule. The content of Calculus I in CalTech would make more than 99% of all college graduates drop out of college. That's how difficult the contents are. The Calculus I in your local community college is the content AP Calc AB teaches in a lower standard. This course will require probably around 30 min~1 hours a week. So here are the evidences. Believe what you want from this but I have legitimate proofs that your economics teacher lied to you. Oh and I forgot to tell you the biggest difference between the schools. Your grade is graded RELATIVE to your peers. Your grades are bell distributed in the math and science courses. Meaning if someone sitting next to you is world ranked, you better pray that you out perform him/her in the exams. It doesn't matter if you mastered the material. If everyone else in the class are 'the brightest of the brightest in the world' and all perform better than you on exams, you then become in the bottom of the class regardless of spending so many hours in the course. Of course certain top schools are infamous for grade inflation like Harvard but do remember, a 3.28 average in math class does not mean much if the class itself requires a full time hour basis (and yet

Valanthriel the name is the most important part. Employers would rather hire a person from Harvard than a nothing school.

Someone saw the last Vsauce video.........cough cough you did! Cough cough

That's exactly what I thought

+peosea I thought exactly the same ;P

+peosea Vsauce is so popular, its everywhere... ...walks out quizzaciously...

Lmao so true

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That and networking plays an even bigger role in jobs, in my opinion. You'd be surprised what all you can get when you know people and they see you as a nice, generous person. A lot of people who go to very high end schools don't pay for their school; their parents do and their parents have a high reputation to get them a job. Sure, you might have a degree, but I'd rather hire someone's kid because I know their family are really smart workers and I'd benefits form that.

You don't "need" a degree from a really good school to get a great job, but because your employer determines whether or not you get that job, having a degree from a good school can help you get your foot through the door.

Uh, how are we the average of the 10 closest people to us? That is just wrong.

I can tell you're not in Harvard your grammar is terrible

+Hurt Cobain exactly

sat scores arent everything tho, they dont accurately measure someone's intelligence for everyone

HARDward HAHAHA

And Harvard is certainly one of those schools.

why...I mean if you come out earning 1 million a year then tuition is nothing

+Tang Dennis your not guarantee to have a job that pays that much.

+Tang Dennis which job helps you earn a million an year? Enlighten me

+Tang Dennis Life is not a dream where you walk out of college and earn million with 0 experience.

+Tang Dennis A pricey big-name college won't help you become a millionaire any faster than your local university will

Keep ya spirits up! Everyone lies about their gpa in college , keep your head up and keep working and all those "good looking" people will be working for YOU one day!

That's orientation, everyone shows the best of themselves but they most likely are lying about their gpa js...

The only person you should be worried about is yourself. So please don't lose your focus of you goals, by being distracted by others. I started off in one of the lowest math classes you can start with at my community college, and I have worked my way up to Calculus II. Something I would have never imagined when I was in that that low level math and it was all because I didn't let anyone tell me that I couldn't do it. And I still have many more math classes to take but it's my goal no matter it it takes a long time. So don't be discouraged and be prepared for a battle! just my two cents.

In my opinion once you get to college its never competing with your peers. There are plenty of opportunities out there, you dont have to fight with every one of them. It does not matter how many smart people here are in your class, you have plenty to do if only you work hard and smart. Just dont be lazy and loose confidence like me.

be terrified. everyone in college is better than the regular person its absolutely painful to your confidence. hah just kidding everyone in college is an idiot

in my class i have 4 of them 2 seem to know what they are doing and can handle stuff the other 2 are always doubting what they are doing and have anxiety attacks every time they give them an exam after being calificated if there is anything i can add to that, it is... the grade doesnt matter if that means you are gonna live in fear and anxiety every single second of your life, a middle level is more worth it if it means you wont be attacked by your own emotions and fears because of the smallest of the smallest things

Obviously college matters. talking down to any one is not good let alone students in community college, That does not change the fact that community colleges are for below average students and good colleges are for smart people. You can always rise from bottom, but you miss lot of opportunities not attending a good college. I regret for being lazy and attending a shit college.

+mahesh katta not necessarily you can be the smartest person in the world but if you made mistakes that were too late to fix you'd go to a community college, the majority are average people but at the end of the day you get your degree so you can make something of yourself, there are tons of people making six figures after attending community college

+mahesh katta like you said you regret being lazy and Lord knows I do too, but I know you're not dumb and neither am I.

+mahesh katta we both could have done better, laziness is what kills people(not literally).

caleb adams The point here is even if you are smart, a good college helps you to achieve far more better things easily than a community college. You miss lot by not attending a good college. The things you do by working very hard in community college, you can do more in a good college by same work. The faculty, labs, opportunities, your fellow students and exposure makes lot of difference.

Saves a whole lot of $$$ and gets the general courses out of the way at a cheap price

As a guy that went to community college I couldn't agree more. I still have a year left but I'm the only one of my friends that hasn't had to fill out a student loans form

Community college is shitty and full of people who slacked or dumbasses from highschool

@Jackson Cowdrey it is look at the gpa u need to get in those, like a 70. Who were the people who got 70s in ur hs? Academically execellant students getting 70 gpas? If ur smart and decided to goof off in hs and get a 70 gpa u deserve to go to a community college

@Jackson Cowdrey the lowest gpa i gotten in my entire life was like a 83 i cant even get a 77 gpa even if i tried.

That is disappointing for you

i feel you

good luck!

+James Chua I totally agree with this

My dad, and my dads dad had their own successful business and didn't even go to college. I just earned my AA but am thinking about doing the same.

+James Chua, I am sorry but can you plz correct all of your mistakes...

deep

+Todd Vretno You keep on wishing that.

+Todd Vretno There are 765 RU-vid channels with more than 1m subscribers. There are 1m channels that make money. That means 0.000765% of channels make a 'giant revenue' producing RU-vid channels. I'll add the sources later.

+Matthew NotReal so in essence i can drop out and produce videos on why dropping out is good and if those videos reach a million views i can get paid to tell people to drop out

+Oliver Green Your life m8. I say go for it! Tell me when you got your first video

Oliver Green You missed his point. The chances you'll actually succeed on RU-vid is nearly zero. I wouldn't rest my entire future on those odds. If you think you can make good content, try it, but make sure you aren't cutting off your other options in the process.

+Gurinderjit LOL good video!

aha thank U!

+Gurinderjit lol its more like dont goto college for useless degrees. If you spending your college education getting drunk all the time, odds are is that your program is probably useless.

+Eric Cartman lol true

+Gurinderjit it all depends what you go to college for, im going to college not just for the job but because I want to have a career doing something I like and the only way to do that is to go to college

They hardly ever answer the question.

they basically answered it at 2:47

Basically it does matter within reason. If you go to Harvard and you graduate and you compare it to Devry... most likely you will have a huge amount of job opportunities and investment potential just based on the fact that you have the ability to tap into a much more powerful network.

basically they did a poor job ripping off Malcolm Gladwell's book that they barely mention in the end

no

+Logan Kinda does though because you have to get in to the college. Standardized tests may not prove your overall intelligence, but they do show how well you are in general.

+Logan Yeah but it definitely proves work ethic. What good is someone who is intelligent but never even bothers to work ?

+derpy153 but they're still smart, they just feel dumb.

+Logan +Logan standardized test are literally created to test intelligence. And GPA is a good indicator of work ethic. Colleges look at both of these and can can get a pretty good representation of how smart you are.

Logan That quote is very interesting. I've never seen it in that light before. However, I can't fully agree with his quote about people who are lazy but clever. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, where people who are brilliant try to think of new ways to accomplish tasks without hassle and quickly. But I don't really see these kinds of people. Instead of answering with a quote, can you name a few prominent people who have both qualities of laziness and intelligence and how they succeeded?

These*

I think it's more about your group of friends rather then the school

You know nothing, Jon snow

+Feynstein100 Yes, he knows a lot. He goes to one or the top schools

+Radi Bear (Radioactive TeddyBear) they're referencing a TV show

+LummyTum more interesting would be a video on psychology detailing why everytime the topic of loosing weight and getting in shape comes in, everyone in the pc crowd start flipping out and preaching all those 'beautiful just the way you are' bullshit in an effort to hide the issue rather than solving it.

***** not how to lose weight but the science behind it how the fat gets out of your body and bla bla bla :P

***** your words are logical observations and I used them to point out the fact. But every time I did that, I was bashed and labeled as a horrible human being by the sjws are driven away. so maybe there's something else.

+LummyTum fat cells never leave your body, they only shrink in size.

I didnt ask you I just said that they should make a video about the science behind it

Yup

Not if your still in high school

Watching this for my son who is 6 months old.. lol

Isaac Lahr well I’m in quarter 1 of junior year with a 3.3 gpa hoping for the best

Also, don't think everyone around you is coping with ease. I'm sure almost everyone is struggling, they are just doing a very good job of hiding it!

Joey Chavez I'm starting school at MIT in 5 hours...and your comment is honestly a relief.

Exactly. Got into Harvard most likely, because they pitied me and ended up graduating in top 1 percentile.

Dawn Ripper Congrats man! I hope life takes you far!

*_You think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?_*

WOOOOOOOOOW! Great analyical points. Was getting high on some points, but OMG, you just grounded me!!!

salt much

Im assuming you're good at debates😭😂❤️

YESSSS

Fergus no, just truth

Thank you, so much.

so good! thank you, i needed that.

Amen

You're just a fish, you have no idea what you're talking about.

This fish gets a thumbs up

+I'm a fish You need both. How do you get into a good internship or a good opening job, with good grades, then you can go to better jobs.

I had fish for dinner last night... I am so sorry... even though it was good ._.

+Dswwimmer this is so sad and true experience without diploma or diploma without experience the job pool is so small you need both.

what about head of the dragon?

kaz9781 the Microsoft guy didn't went .-.

Caritas Yes he did but dropped out because it wasn't challenging he resently got his diploma

Yes.

Caritas *go.

SuperManBoy1 *recently

Exactly, and you should never have a "give up if it's too hard mentality"

Consider also that some of the dropouts are simply so driven and gifted that they'd rather enter the real world earlier than stay in academics, i.e. Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerburg

The funny thing is that the video is flat out wrong. The 6 year graduation rate for Harvard is 97%. He's looking at which students decide to major in STEM not the drop out rate. lol

@@ben-mx3cs Yes, I completely agree. I am definitely applying for Ivy League, and have done my research. This video is very incorrect. The good schools are, of course, extremely hard to get into, but little people fail or drop out before graduating. They pick the best of the best, and if anyone thought about this logically, they'd figure it out.

+Cupcake Pop Applying to Ivy League schools isn't a choice you make when it comes time for applying to colleges, it's a choice you make in your early years when beginning High School. You reap what you sow.