How many attacks did he stop without even getting out of the saddle? I was wondering why he wasn't saving some energy for the Tour, but now realize that this is what saving energy looks for him.
@@amit_perezLet's wait for another 5 years or even more and we will find out if he is 'clean' or not. We were thrilled by Lance A. and we all know what happened later. 😅😂
@@dilligaf2818 and that's whose fault? btw i don't even agree. it's like 2 or 3 races in one. 1 who can pogacar unexpectedly beat on this stage 2 who is going to be 2nd and 3rd and 3 how large can he make his gc lead
@@recordednowhere their TDF lineup is their strongest lineup but it's still not stronger than VISMA when Jonas is there. But in all reality, Pogi is so strong they don't need a team that strong at this Giro. They will need a strong team at TDF if Jonas makes it to the TDF. They can really put a hurt on UAE easily AND even wear Pogi down like they did a few years ago. I forget the year and the stage but it was incredible how they just attacked him and let him respond then another VISMA rider attacked him and he responded and VISMA did that about 10 times and Pogi was all by himself and wore himself out trying to respond to every attack. That's the strength of VISMA that UAE does NOT have 🤘🏻🏴
@@magguscrow good on ya mate. Not enough people are admitting this. People are just believing the UCI when they said "cycling is the cleanest it's ever been"😂 It's ridiculous. Every time I mention this I get cursed out😂. The most common response I get is "he's never given a positive test result" or "what's your proof?" First of all all the BIG KNOWN DOPERS got away with it for YEARS!!! Secondly my proof is all these superhiman feats of strength and endurance we see from him. It's getting so blatantly obvious. I'm just glad to speak to someone who isn't blind to this issue Cheers 🤘🏻🏴
Yes it is on MAX in the States. I watch every stage, FULL coverage with preshow and post show coverage. I think I pay $10/month and it's WELL worth it!! So many other races as well 🤘🏻🏴
Some guy from Bolton who feels the need to pronounce Martinez more “authentically” than a Spanish speaker would. And you asking that means you've never listened to an Eurosport cycling wrap up.
Every time I talk about this YT removes my comment. I'll try it one more time . . . When a handful of riders are MILES above the rest of their peers it is blatantly obvious. People tell me "he's 'all natural' and has never given a positive test result". Well guess what? Lance didn't get caught for 12 years and it wasn't the testing that got him caught. He beat the testing system his entire career! Once people do the research and look into how doping is done and how the testing protocols are majorly flawed, it will then be clear. People actually believe the UCI when they say "cycling is the cleanest it's ever been"😂 That's insane! All the the riders that were on "the program " were doing it for most if not their ENTIRE careers but they got away with it and only some of them got caught ONCE! It's not physiological. It's not improved science. It's not better technology. It's not better understanding of nutrition. It's not "marginal gains". It's not the expensive fabric they use to make the team kit. When these riders and teams are spending €100,000s on Drs, the first and most important thing they need to learn from the Drs is HOW TO NOT GET CAUGHT. There are MANY ways to beat the testing. It's not hard. The riders passport is something these riders use to HELP them get away with it. It allows them to stay within somewhat "normal parameters" for a "clean athlete" and even when they do go outside the "normal parameters" there are ways to explain it away. You can microdose EPO in the evening and beat a test the following day. You can say you trained at altitude a few days before you gave a test that says your red blood cell count is too high because that's what happens at altitude. There are other ways also. These lads are smashing records of KNOWN dopers. Once people take the time to research this themselves it will become very clear what is going on. This is so blatantly obvious and people just say "he's never tested positive" or "what proof do you have?". The proof is right in front of everyone. People just refuse to admit it. A little research goes a long way. It's like TEAM SKY, when they were winning their fans refused to accept it but when new and better riders with better Drs came along and beat them they started saying those lads are on "the program". It will be the same with what's happening now. When these lads start losing to new riders that are getting better PED's with better Drs people will accuse THEM of being on "the program" but they won't admit it while their favourite rider is clearly doping now. This is not hard to understand. It's really quite simple with just a little research into the subject. When will people stop lying to themselves? Oh, I know! When their rider starts getting beat by a new rider with better PED's and Dr's but they won't say their rider was on "the program" when it's right in front of them!!! 🤘🏻🏴
With respect to giro d'italia there is no doubt that tour de France is at a much higher level. Much better organization, intelligent stage planning, live and online coverage, attendance and many more things will says us: tdf is in another league
Has killed in perfectly correct. I have watched the highlights but not anymore. Wasting m. time. Most boring Giro ever. Only Slovenia is interested in it
@@danielkaminske5048 Bugno won the opening 13km time trial in the city of Bari. Bugno became the fourth person to lead from start to finish. Joining Giradengo 1919 , Binda 1929 , and Merckx in 1973. Sources 1990 Velonews magazine which is part of my Velonews collection and a quick search on line .
Tour de France is already over because of the crashes of all the top contenders like it was last year with Pog. I got the feeling Pog will win all of the big three this year and will be the first one to do it. History in the making
Im watching Remco on his YT channel showing his recovery process. Everyday he uploads I believe. He will most likely be there and it appears that Jonas will be there also. Not sure how on form they will be tho but I do think they will both be there and I'm sure. Roglic is going to be there. He wasn't injured in the crash. He just abandoned because it was too dangerous and didn't want to get injured causing him to not make the TDF or not be on top form for TDF. He had already had an incident a day or two before the big crash so he just left the race before he did get injured 🤘🏻🏴
@@kennykaniff any missing races because of a injury is bad for top riders form as was the case with Pog last year. Any injury and crash can have a terrible impact on their season and I don't believe they (other top riders) will be at the same form as Pog if he stays injury free
@@viktorkalef you're absolutely correct!! It would be an act of God if Jonas made the tour and won. He suffered very serious injuries in that crash. Him and Jay Vine had the worst injuries. They were not nice injuries. They were very serious. Jay Vine had broken vertebrae i believe and Jonas had pneumonothorax. I also believe he had another very serious injury because pniemonothorax is usually one week in hospital. Jonas was in for 2 weeks!! I think they didn't report one of the more serious of his injuries. I definitely believe the team was hiding SOMETHING from the public 🤘🏻🏴
Yes it is. It's not like the 80s, 90s racing generation. There's so much money at stake in the sport now. Plus Pogi is just being greedy I've come to realize. It's taken the races within the race out of the equation. Who is going to spend energy gaining KOM points for 1 or 2 or 3 stages when Pogi is going to come along and wipe out all your efforts in ONE mountain top finish!!! There's no incentive to battle for the KOM with this kind of greed from Pogi 🤘🏻🏴
good on ya mate. Not enough people are admitting this. People are just believing the UCI when they said "cycling is the cleanest it's ever been"😂 It's ridiculous. Every time I mention this I get cursed out😂. The most common response I get is "he's never given a positive test result" or "what's your proof?" First of all all the BIG KNOWN DOPERS got away with it for YEARS!!! Secondly my proof is all these superhuman feats of strength and endurance we see from him and others. It's getting so blatantly obvious. I'm just glad to speak to someone who isn't blind to this issue Cheers 🤘🏻🏴
A friend says, when it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. Is Pogacar clean? He's made winning look so easy this year, you gotta ask. I wanna believe he is clean and the entire sport is clean but until they all show power numbers all the time, I'm conflicted.
Well don't feel conflicted. I did the research myself. I looked into it and looked at how doping is done and how the testing protocols are flawed. Not enough people are admitting this. People are just believing the UCI when they said "cycling is the cleanest it's ever been"😂 It's ridiculous. Every time I mention this I get cursed out😂. The most common response I get is "he's never given a positive test result" or "what's your proof?" First of all all the BIG KNOWN DOPERS got away with it for YEARS!!! Secondly my proof is all these superhuman feats of strength and endurance we see from him AND OTHERS. These lads are smashing records of KNOWN dopers. It's getting so blatantly obvious Cheers 🤘🏻🏴
Every time I talk about this YT removes my comment. I'll try it one more time . . . When a handful of riders are MILES above the rest of their peers it is blatantly obvious. People tell me "he's 'all natural' and has never given a positive test result". Well guess what? Lance didn't get caught for 12 years and it wasn't the testing that got him caught. He beat the testing system his entire career! Once people do the research and look into how doping is done and how the testing protocols are majorly flawed, it will then be clear. People actually believe the UCI when they say "cycling is the cleanest it's ever been"😂 That's insane! All the the riders that were on "the program " were doing it for most if not their ENTIRE careers but they got away with it and only some of them got caught ONCE! It's not physiological. It's not improved science. It's not better technology. It's not better understanding of nutrition. It's not "marginal gains". It's not the expensive fabric they use to make the team kit. When these riders and teams are spending €100,000s on Drs, the first and most important thing they need to learn from the Drs is HOW TO NOT GET CAUGHT. There are MANY ways to beat the testing. It's not hard. The riders passport is something these riders use to HELP them get away with it. It allows them to stay within somewhat "normal parameters" for a "clean athlete" and even when they do go outside the "normal parameters" there are ways to explain it away. You can microdose EPO in the evening and beat a test the following day. You can say you trained at altitude a few days before you gave a test that says your red blood cell count is too high because that's what happens at altitude. There are other ways also. These lads are smashing records of KNOWN dopers. Once people take the time to research this themselves it will become very clear what is going on. This is so blatantly obvious and people just say "he's never tested positive" or "what proof do you have?". The proof is right in front of everyone. People just refuse to admit it. A little research goes a long way. It's like TEAM SKY, when they were winning their fans refused to accept it but when new and better riders with better Drs came along and beat them they started saying those lads are on "the program". It will be the same with what's happening now. When these lads start losing to new riders that are getting better PED's with better Drs people will accuse THEM of being on "the program" but they won't admit it while their favourite rider is clearly doping now. This is not hard to understand. It's really quite simple with just a little research into the subject. When will people stop lying to themselves? Oh, I know! When their rider starts getting beat by a new rider with better PED's and Dr's but they won't say their rider was on "the program" when it's right in front of them!!! 🤘🏻🏴
Pog is a man racing boys. It's not even a fair fight. If this were the Armstrong era, Lemond would be calling him a doper--and he'd be right. He is simply on another level. Jonas is pretty close to that level--but given identical team support I'd pick Pog over Jonas just about every time. The times that Jonas has beaten Pog in the GC (Tour de France) he simply had a MUCH better bench to pull from... essentially the dream team of pro cycling. That's over now... and Jonas is injured and may never fully come back from that--unfortunately--the same way Froome-y never quite got back to full form after his devastating crash. Shit happens. And sometimes it changes a sport forever.
@@andrehufschmid Eh. Sometimes. Depends on the day... depends on the course. If you neutralized the team advantages I doubt Jonas would beat him on 6 out of 10 stages consistently. But unfortunately we'll never know... because the crash will not always be used as the reason why Jonas lost his top form and (perhaps) never regains it. Now, if Jonas does end up riding in the Tour this year... AND wins... well, that would be pretty clear evidence that he's a better rider. But I don't see that happening.
Giro designed without respect for sprinter teams. the short time trial did not reward pure chronomen. From a sporting point of view it's a disastrous Giro, one of the worst I've ever seen.
As much as we want to enjoy the race. It's really becoming boring AF!. When one rider is super dominance above others(Like Eddie), and rampaging every stage with a win. Literally, the other team are just scrambling for runner up. They are becoming a decoration for tadej red carpet procession until paris. If other teams just play for the second place, and do not contest this race (which is more likely gonna happen). Without the big guns from the other team (like jonas, remco or rogla) this tour is already secure for UAE , the downside that I see is that like I said earlier, it's becoming less fun to watch nor its becoming interesting in some fans anymore. On the flip side, we should still acknowledge pogi skills and presence here. He is such a cool and funny individual. When someone like him is exceptionally good and dominant. There's always a good and a bad side in this kind of scenario for the sports. But still I'm hoping for a battle for the GC and the other team will not just give an ez win to UAE.
So lionel messi and ronaldo are also doped bcuz they are the best? Just bcuz you are the best doesnt mean you take dope 😭. Wait until vingegard, evenepoel (and maybe roglic) join and you will see there are others who play at this level 🤡
good on ya mate. Not enough people are admitting this. People are just believing the UCI when they said "cycling is the cleanest it's ever been"😂 It's ridiculous. Every time I mention this I get cursed out😂. The most common response I get is "he's never given a positive test result" or "what's your proof?" First of all all the BIG KNOWN DOPERS got away with it for YEARS!!! Secondly my proof is all these superhiman feats of strength and endurance we see from him. It's getting so blatantly obvious. I'm just glad to speak to someone who isn't blind to this issue Cheers 🤘🏻🏴
@@JzuzuBzzz 😂😂😂 Do the research like I did. I looked into how the doping is done and how the testing protocols are flawed. These lads are smashing records of KNOWN dopers. It's clear as day!! 🤘🏻🏴
not without extreme heat and equal competitors. He stayed under threshold all day until the final sprint. He will be very comfortable the rest of the way.
I mean, last year they literally just followed each other until the final time trial 🤷🏽♂️ I’m not sure what you where expecting, he’s arguably the best GC rider of his generation (JV has an argument of course)
Dont watch more ok, and not be problem!! For us Slovenian we like see this. Last year Roglic this year Pogačar!! And with 2 milion people only. You are bored with stupid comments!! 👎🇸🇮💪
the trackers are incompetent. It's been like this for 10 years, they no longer allow sprinters or one-day heroes to take the pink jersey. I believe it is done on purpose to ensure rich teams have the greatest possible visibility for sponsors. but then TV viewers drop. we are in the hands of idiots.
good on ya mate. Not enough people are admitting this. People are just believing the UCI when they said "cycling is the cleanest it's ever been"😂 It's ridiculous. Every time I mention this I get cursed out😂. The most common response I get is "he's never given a positive test result" or "what's your proof?" First of all all the BIG KNOWN DOPERS got away with it for YEARS!!! Secondly my proof is all these superhuman feats of strength and endurance we see from him and others! It's getting so blatantly obvious. I'm just glad to speak to someone who isn't blind to this issue. It's getting really sickening!! Must be the fabric they use to make the team kit with😂 Cheers 🤘🏻🏴
Jonas doesn’t win everything just high mountain stage cuz he’s extremely light . The drugs need to be regulated . Everyone should get the same drugs then we will know who really is the best ! 🤪🤪🤪
@@danielkaminske5048 if you can't see what's right in front of your face then it's willful ignorance. It's obvious. Right after a Time Trial....blowing people away at the end of that Sprint today? C'mon. lol
good on ya mate. Not enough people are admitting this. People are just believing the UCI when they said "cycling is the cleanest it's ever been"😂 It's ridiculous. Every time I mention this I get cursed out😂. The most common response I get is "he's never given a positive test result" or "what's your proof?" First of all all the BIG KNOWN DOPERS got away with it for YEARS!!! Secondly my proof is all these superhuman feats of strength and endurance we see from him and others. It's getting so blatantly obvious. I'm just glad to speak to someone who isn't blind to this issue Cheers 🤘🏻🏴
the stuff these guys are using falls under the legal umbrella ....just as alcohol is a drug but its ok to get drunk but not disorderly ironic isnt it:?
Absolutely!! good on ya mate. Not enough people are admitting this. People are just believing the UCI when they said "cycling is the cleanest it's ever been"😂 It's ridiculous. Every time I mention this I get cursed out😂. The most common response I get is "he's never given a positive test result" or "what's your proof?" First of all all the BIG KNOWN DOPERS got away with it for YEARS!!! Secondly my proof is all these superhuman feats of strength and endurance we see from him and others! It's getting so blatantly obvious. I'm just glad to speak to someone who isn't blind to this issue Cheers 🤘🏻🏴
Armstrong and Froome did this with theoretically equal opponents. Who of the others has anything to show from the past years (yes, Thomas has had a great time, but that's years ago and he reached an age, where many others had already retired)
@@markcarmichael7141 You need to compare it to the performance of other current top riders, Vingegaard, Roglic, ... Is he faster? Don't know. Guess not..
