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Don Brash talks to Sean Plunket about the banning of karakias in council meetings
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@J67844
@J67844 Год назад
Opotiki 80% Maori Population voted against Maori Wards. Plus racist radicals like Louis Rapihana got voted out with dismal vote numbers. So theres obiviously a big groundswell of people "Maori" who are awake but wont say nothing.
@Ricky-nq7lu
@Ricky-nq7lu Год назад
I think Maori & Non Maori see where being screwed by IWI & Government and see we need a system that works for all of us....
@sox7784
@sox7784 Год назад
@@Ricky-nq7lu agreed 👍
@topgunhitman3856
@topgunhitman3856 Год назад
Yuo
@Wairoa4ever
@Wairoa4ever Год назад
There are NO more Maori, only part - Maori or mixed race at best
@kiriwilliams1084
@kiriwilliams1084 Год назад
@@Wairoa4ever so what what are you trying to say
@maljohn1414
@maljohn1414 Год назад
Its time to Torch the Treaty its just for the rich elite mixed race European/Maori, We as a country dont owe anyone a single thing, I myself got a good education (by going to school) then as soon as I left I started work paying my taxes, then when I got married only had children when we could afford it as a result we dont live in poverty. Race has nothing to do with it, it comes down to personal responsibility, simple really.
@red2775
@red2775 Год назад
Exactly 100% true
@pita3908
@pita3908 Год назад
should move to australia they better
@serenasmith26
@serenasmith26 Год назад
I remember when we were told that Treaty Settlements would end, now they are never-ending
@Anonymous-c4p
@Anonymous-c4p Год назад
Don't waste your time Serena the flock have taken over the shepherd and I'm done💨
@Wairoa4ever
@Wairoa4ever Год назад
That was just the START, when they saw what they could get, they said lets GET more as there useless non maori will bow down and give in really!!!!
@StGammon77
@StGammon77 Год назад
Should never have started they sold, gave away and had some confiscated for murdering pakeha
@mrspecialk1234
@mrspecialk1234 Год назад
Brash was the last decent Nat/act leader and I would swap him for either Luxon or Seymour at the drop of a hat…..history will show him correct
@Jay-oh1li
@Jay-oh1li Год назад
The year I turned 18 was the year I got to vote for Brash. I never considered voting for National since then.
@andreatodd3095
@andreatodd3095 Год назад
Good point Sean, I understand I have no rights on a Marae, I would not dare to speak or make any statement on a Marae...it's a given. So please don't hold up due process at council meetings that elected officials are paid for by EVERY rate. payer they are paid to work on our behalf that should be a given. Each religion cannot be respected equally at council meetings so better to leave it out altogether.
@chrisallum9044
@chrisallum9044 Год назад
We are not the USA. NZ is part of the commonwealth under the King with the King under God...Christianity is the religion of the country. Being Christian we accept others regardless of religion. It is not a secular country. Maori religion is the only other that has a real claim to the country as a whole. You don't have to be Christian to be a kiwi but it is a significant part of the foundational culture. I'm an atheist myself. Just FYI
@Kaboomnz
@Kaboomnz Год назад
​@@chrisallum9044 "Being Christian we accept others regardless of religion".. since when have christians ever accepted other religions?
@banyaga-di-palawan
@banyaga-di-palawan Год назад
@@chrisallum9044 Secular government, not secular country.
@jjbraddock2702
@jjbraddock2702 Год назад
Big difference between creating a bilingual nation and the apartheid (apartness) system called co-governance we are having forced on us.
@NA-sj9jy
@NA-sj9jy Год назад
New Zealand isn't a bilingual nation though. We are an English speaking nation. We have some people here that speak all languages of the World. There's probably more people here than Maori, that speak Samoan, Indian, Dutch and Chinese. This woke Maorifacation of our News, Government departments...is just further pushing people apart, it's making information unreadable and out of reach for most of society in New Zealand, as well as those outside of NZ trying to listen and read our News...I have friends that just unplug now, and don't bother. If the locals don't get it, they certainly don't. Just tune out and the information that needs to be heard, is lost. My friends and I now turn to Australia to get our news.
@jeffjones5777
@jeffjones5777 Год назад
You and your friends sound like cry baby 😢😂
@andriesmaritz2055
@andriesmaritz2055 10 месяцев назад
APARTHEID indeed. I am 22 years in NZ & a Citizen, but often pointed out that NZ practice APARTHEID based on Maori race. Why all the things just for Maori ?? Sport, MP's, TV, ???????????? Should be abolished. We should all be equal . (Dr Andries Maritz)
@shauntempley9757
@shauntempley9757 9 месяцев назад
It is because of Apartheid that the rugby teams were separated. As much as the selectors did not want Maori players on their teams. @@andriesmaritz2055
@berniefynn6623
@berniefynn6623 Год назад
WE DON WANT karakia ,this is a maori custom, ONLY.
@harleynuku7902
@harleynuku7902 Год назад
It’s a NZ custom that has been used before your ancestors arrived on these shores.
@berniefynn6623
@berniefynn6623 Год назад
@@harleynuku7902 ATRIBAL custom you imposed on those here before you, znOT a national custom
@pamh1648
@pamh1648 Год назад
I look forward to the day when we are all considered kiwis or New Zealanders. I resent having to say what my race is on every form I fill out. I consider it to be racist and irrelevant.
@topgunhitman3856
@topgunhitman3856 Год назад
It is rasist and irrelevant.i leve it blank
@maieldmik5233
@maieldmik5233 Год назад
Just put human.too easy
@jeffjones5777
@jeffjones5777 Год назад
😂
@les8518
@les8518 Год назад
It used to be that way.
@bkeepr4246
@bkeepr4246 Год назад
I don't mind stating my race, what I find very irritating, and I express this to those from government with these forms, is that these days they do not include my race. My mother was from clan Ross, my father from an English Law Lord. So I am British, like a large portion of Kiwis, but I am unrecognised and have to tick "other". I am not European, although if I could trace my paternal ancestry further back than 1750 then eventually there must have been a Norman, going by my surname. I am not Caucasian as I don't trace back to the Caucasus region, nor asia. While some may argue that Caucasian simply means a white person, and going far enough back I must be Caucasian, well going far enough back we are all Africian aren't we?
@josephl9619
@josephl9619 Год назад
ive got enormous respect for don brash
@calstonjew
@calstonjew Год назад
His wife is from Singapore 🙂
@josephl9619
@josephl9619 Год назад
@@calstonjew good for him
@jeffjones5777
@jeffjones5777 Год назад
I bet in his wife language he be all for it😊
@Longtack55
@Longtack55 Год назад
He's an adulterer and God-fearing hypocrite. Dogs - fleas. The plural of "Karakia" is "Karakia." It's a Maori word.
@kiriwilliams1084
@kiriwilliams1084 Год назад
Good for you although I don't think people care
@garycody1929
@garycody1929 Год назад
The straightest clear thinking intellectual we have
@calstonjew
@calstonjew Год назад
Yeah, that's sad.
@les8518
@les8518 Год назад
Co- governance should not happen in New Zealand.
@peace2u947
@peace2u947 Год назад
Yeah co-governance is a dumb policy all the way from dumb-dumbville. One person one vote democracy, if you have an NZ passport you are a Kiwi regardless of colour, ethnicity, tribe, age, gender etcetc.. Seymour does do some good things but he has some truly shocking views as well the end of life choice is barbaric. He's gonna need to overturn that one to get into power.
@DW_Kiwi
@DW_Kiwi Год назад
We "need" to have a debate on this!!
@turi03175
@turi03175 8 месяцев назад
Without God in the mids nothing going to get better ever
@Bob-zs3ro
@Bob-zs3ro Месяц назад
Only pakehas say that.
@sherylwhite2201
@sherylwhite2201 Год назад
I used to work for a DHB until 5 years ago. When there were professional development events, they were always started with a karakia. I felt this was an absolute imposition in a basically secular society, and felt really annoyed about it.
@StGammon77
@StGammon77 Год назад
Karakia is witchcraft not prayer to God so it belongs in the past we are a Christian based country
@berniefynn6623
@berniefynn6623 Год назад
They wear a hat in Parliament, protocol dictates that hats be removed,/
@moaripartyareracist1547
@moaripartyareracist1547 Год назад
Moari did do alot of running from the police
@les8518
@les8518 Год назад
Don Brash is a good man. Listen to him.
@rangithorne6038
@rangithorne6038 Месяц назад
🥵
@gregbooth1551
@gregbooth1551 Год назад
Don't agree with all the comments made, but I did find this interview refreshing! Credit to DB for sticking to his beliefs, not easy these days!
@markcrisp8279
@markcrisp8279 Год назад
Completely agree, DB not a person I share political ideology with. His thoughts and breakdown this interview I support. Reading between the lines my thoughts were your either an active part of the community, or your inactive. Side lining people who actively contribute but do not identify as m
@DW_Kiwi
@DW_Kiwi Год назад
Pleased to hear Don Brash and his comments are out there. A gentleman. I'm happy for a Maori to express a prayer. So long as it is Christian!! Secular meetings should be just that...Secular. NO prayers
@emmamarlenesoutham
@emmamarlenesoutham Год назад
are we a christan country? no, therefore what would be the relevance in this, christanity only got brought with colonisation and lets leave it there.
@labellaangora6887
@labellaangora6887 Год назад
It's not a prayer , they only call it that to make it sound 'harmless' and familiar, it's an incantation and calling on the ancestors for 'guidance , protection', great for maori but many other faiths do not call on the dead it is forbidden which is why many don't want it in public spaces, unless people are permitted to leave first, but then maori would be 'offended' so keeping it completely secular is the only solution
@gracefool
@gracefool Год назад
It depends, there are also Christian karakia. But either way shouldn't be imposed on everyone.
@labellaangora6887
@labellaangora6887 Год назад
@@gracefool It wouldn't be Christian if it was a Karakia, that's the whole point, Christians pray to one God not many and definitely not their ancestors, Karakia is not simply the maori word for 'prayer', there is nothing wrong with Karakia in the appropriate settings, that would be where people want to hear it and clearly people don't want it in council meetings
@StGammon77
@StGammon77 Год назад
Plain witchcraft which was left behind in favor of Tikanga Christianity
@francisheperi4180
@francisheperi4180 10 месяцев назад
I think the Maori word everyone here is scrambling for is ''inoi''...that's what the Catholic Church uses for prayer. Man, the old Church knew how to bless a building... lots of holy water; Latin prayers; incense... was beautiful.
@andriesmaritz2055
@andriesmaritz2055 10 месяцев назад
Good interview & I support Dr Don and am grateful for what he is doing. Keep it up. (Dr Andries Maritz)
@t.t6191
@t.t6191 Год назад
A government using the words genetically superior about a particular race is wrong. It's not true. It's offensive and insulting to other races. Asking for a prayer to be removed from government business is not racist, its trying to keep it secular. In saying that, a Karakia is not religious it's cultural. If everyone agrees then imho it can be appropriate for government business in terms of just wishing for good business and a good result type thing. Im going to say this once, to keep saying there's no full blooded left, as a reason, is not a good thing to be repeating, if you do, Maori will feel threatened and it will make it worse. Do you have proof of no full blooded Maori alive? What is that evidence? Because in the mid 90s i had my English teacher say that, whilst my full blooded Maori Koro( grandfather) was at home. I couldn't care what she thought but it shows she was wrong.
@martingray6275
@martingray6275 Год назад
Racism definition: the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another. So does this mean that every time there is a call my one of NZ's cultural ethnicities for special treatment, THEY are being racist?
@Kaboomnz
@Kaboomnz Год назад
The actual definition: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
@gfunk0073
@gfunk0073 Год назад
So labour have swung the pendulum too far left, now it will swing the other way just as far. It must be so disappointing being a labour voter.
@andrewcampbell2903
@andrewcampbell2903 Год назад
Maybe Maori are superior by virtue of their non - Maori ancestry . Just another way of looking at it .
@Eohippus100
@Eohippus100 Год назад
When Charles Darwin visited the Bay of Islands in 1835 he described the europeans living there as quote "the very refuse of society" (Voyage of the Beagle Ch 18) Since these were the first europeans to mingle with the Maori, the poor statistics of Maori may, at least in part, be due to the standard of these Europeans.
@andrewcampbell2903
@andrewcampbell2903 Год назад
@@Eohippus100 My comment was tongue in cheek , written to provoke thought . Your comment , regardless of the veracity of Darwin's comment , suggests very little thought on your part .
@yungnmighty796
@yungnmighty796 Год назад
First off a karakia is not a prayer. Inoi is a prayer lol
@iansmith9706
@iansmith9706 Год назад
Maori are superior at running, look how the ram raiders get away
@jeannibarber1799
@jeannibarber1799 Год назад
I thought they just stole another car
@iansmith9706
@iansmith9706 Год назад
@@jeannibarber1799 adern told our police force just to watch them leave the scene,
@andrewlim9345
@andrewlim9345 Год назад
One possible solution for the Waipara Council karakia dispute would be to allow prayers from all faiths and cultures. If Maori karakia are allowed, I think it is fair that prayers from other cultures also be allowed.
@StGammon77
@StGammon77 Год назад
No the commonwealth is Christian and Maori were too along with Chiefs they chose Tikanga Christ and if maori now want to honor the Treaty then get born again
@gregpember1680
@gregpember1680 6 месяцев назад
I don't think Maori would mind at all tbh.
@raymondlogan7807
@raymondlogan7807 Год назад
The Platform is a must watch talk back. So informative, just great.
@marshallgarrett1593
@marshallgarrett1593 Год назад
Excellent interview well balanced
@accessaryman
@accessaryman Год назад
would labor hold a referendum on the issue of co governance. john key held one on the flag issue, i doubt labor has the balls to hold one , because they already know the outcome of it, this shows the whole population how weak and woke labor is, they are a government voted in by the people working for the people, just an FYI the whole population of new Zealand are the people, not just a select few,
@29Ni8
@29Ni8 Год назад
Don attempted to establish chair board committee for the mongrel mob 😂no lack of trying though
@tonygee3284
@tonygee3284 5 месяцев назад
GO Don your ban this rubbish.
@marshallgarrett1593
@marshallgarrett1593 6 месяцев назад
I’m wondering what the agenda is with the coalition government to change the government department names back to English cheers
@pauls9322
@pauls9322 4 месяца назад
Luxtons knees will buckle in the slightest breeze, so we have winny & seymore to hold him up.
@cthlite
@cthlite Год назад
With these karakias, Who are they praying to? Which God or gods?
@StGammon77
@StGammon77 Год назад
These customs and beliefs of maori should be done only on their land they own not anyone else's especially the Govt
@calstonjew
@calstonjew Год назад
"Mr. Local Iwi rose to speak, raised his taiaha, ruffled his moa feathers and began..." For a full transcript of Mr. Local Iwis speech please write to this address: 7 Ooga booga Rd. Ponse.
@Kiwi-pp7rg
@Kiwi-pp7rg Год назад
Well I'm a white guy and no Moari athlete has caught up to me chasing me with a knife
@samsonmorrell
@samsonmorrell Год назад
A Karakia isn't a Māori Prayer. Karakia is The Māori word for prayer which is spoken in Māori Shaun 😂😂😂 You should know that because it can be easily translated into English 🤦🏿‍♂️😂
@StGammon77
@StGammon77 Год назад
Stop changing our sacred prayer language to yours you never had our prayers before leave them in English otherwise meaning is lost just like what's happened with the maori version of the Treaty
@deanpendigrast7255
@deanpendigrast7255 Год назад
Maori didn't now what clay pot was
@gregpember1680
@gregpember1680 6 месяцев назад
They do know 😆 now aw idknow
@stevehorner8302
@stevehorner8302 Год назад
We all live in one country, all this crap needs to be stopped and the reason for it is our wonderful government
@readthinkhunt
@readthinkhunt 10 месяцев назад
Well done Sean on letting the guest speak. I wish you would extend the same courtesy to other guests, it makes for a much better product.
@serenasmith26
@serenasmith26 Год назад
Accusing everyone else of racism WHILE being the most racist of all, that's what you get when you let Maori have their way all the time! (Slow clapping).
@jontyfernandez5146
@jontyfernandez5146 Год назад
The victim becomes the perpetrator
@calstonjew
@calstonjew Год назад
'victim'?
@jontyfernandez5146
@jontyfernandez5146 Год назад
@@calstonjew yeah
@calstonjew
@calstonjew Год назад
@@jontyfernandez5146 who, Maori?
@jontyfernandez5146
@jontyfernandez5146 Год назад
@@calstonjew there's a lot of writing about the above quote that impacts all people's psychology, it nothing to do with race. Look it up
@serenasmith26
@serenasmith26 Год назад
Maori are not victims, they have being too spoilt actually!
@williemrebekahmaclutchie-e7654
we all 1 people ok,i dont c any martians
@MichaelWilcox001
@MichaelWilcox001 Год назад
Interesting that you've got a commenter here going by the name Zyclon B - the gas used in na
@drinkingup2157
@drinkingup2157 Год назад
Its rather childish really
@calstonjew
@calstonjew Год назад
I'm happy to concede that Maori are physically stronger if they concede that Europeans are mentally superior.
@peterSapper1971
@peterSapper1971 Год назад
Just go to any school in New Zealand lately.....
@edwardparsons5316
@edwardparsons5316 Месяц назад
Always the mono culture bent get as much support as you can makes little or no difference racist certain maybe non secular perhaps but continuing resistance to any Maori ideas or practices we get you its mono culture like you're Tupuna who continue to break and show no respect for Maori nothing changes maybe you're gonna take advantage when it suits you for our / your identity and international recognition Used to be proposed as an egalitarian heaven unless you ever managed to or bothered to put light on it. Yeah/Nah
@Bob-zs3ro
@Bob-zs3ro Месяц назад
Become an mp a cop join the Army or shut up , from the RNZIR typical armchair generals.
@berniefynn6623
@berniefynn6623 Год назад
FOON says a maori consultation group at Waipa is not racist/
@HannahFittings
@HannahFittings 2 месяца назад
We change our national anthem then Dr Don Brash cuz im sick of signing god defend New Zealand
@berniefynn6623
@berniefynn6623 Год назад
NO karakia at council meetings.
@normanmacritchie9267
@normanmacritchie9267 Год назад
this legistlation all talk about was start by act like rodger douglus richard prebbe been around sense 1986
@dosentmatter982
@dosentmatter982 7 месяцев назад
So maaori can learn English but English won't learn maori
@dosentmatter982
@dosentmatter982 7 месяцев назад
Hu brought racism to Aotearoa?
@lynnedevereux8806
@lynnedevereux8806 Год назад
All through govt agencies as well.
@garys6135
@garys6135 Год назад
Does that mean we quash the anthem God defend New Zealand , sounds pretty secular to me .
@geoffmorgan2794
@geoffmorgan2794 Год назад
Depends on which God you Follow!!!!!
@lilyfuzz1
@lilyfuzz1 Год назад
the use of maori is bringing our nation together and enhancing our identity
@StGammon77
@StGammon77 7 месяцев назад
Ahhh no it isn't you lost Mana and respect we don't care about your pigeon English
@chrisallum9044
@chrisallum9044 Год назад
We are not the USA. NZ is part of the commonwealth under the King with the King under God...Christianity is the religion of the country. Being Christian we accept others regardless of religion. It is not a secular country. Maori religion is the only other that has a real claim to the country as a whole. You don't have to be Christian to be a kiwi but it is a significant part of the foundational culture. I'm an atheist myself. Just FYI
@michaelverbakel7632
@michaelverbakel7632 Год назад
I have always wondered this about non-believing atheists. Who does an atheist pray to at the end of their lives when they are in the hospital dying from nothing.
@tomcoomber3161
@tomcoomber3161 4 месяца назад
Nice interview.
@geoffreydawson5430
@geoffreydawson5430 Год назад
I never trust an ex-Doctor that continues to use the medical school tone of voice to gain trust.
@richardmunford9352
@richardmunford9352 Год назад
I don't think anything Don brash said tonite was extreme
@michaelpatterson8799
@michaelpatterson8799 Год назад
Dont want to lose face. That sounds ccp
@berniefynn6623
@berniefynn6623 Год назад
The human rights Comm. say it is not racist to have a iwi consultation group.
@StGammon77
@StGammon77 Год назад
They are only IWI on land they own not crown or private land according to the Treaty. Maori can only be tangata whenua on land they own neither do they have control over other enterprises or business land etc
@pita3908
@pita3908 Год назад
karakia is a prayer..
@StGammon77
@StGammon77 Год назад
It is not a Christian prayer it's witchcraft of their mythological gods
@StGammon77
@StGammon77 7 месяцев назад
No, maori did not pray!!
@bkeepr4246
@bkeepr4246 Год назад
Don, stop using a Maori word to specify a group of citizens of this nation who are not Maori, it's racist and derogatory. It is similar to the now obligatory greeting in Maori by police officiers who then go on to speak with me in normal English. At best it is woke, at worst racist. It tells me that the person will speak to me in English but first they must display what they consider the superior language, so I know my place.
@jennyhart4587
@jennyhart4587 Год назад
Maybe on your death beds,all of you who feel prayer can be inappropriate,you might see things differently,let’s hope you can resist if you happen to be in a council meeting??!!
@geotruthnz7013
@geotruthnz7013 Год назад
I'm centre right conservative and Don Brash is the worst thing that has happened for our side. He & similar types are the reason everyone thinks right wingers are a-holes he is an elite corporate bankster. I do agree though that Maorifying everything in NZ is painful even though I am Maori.
@dubemccready7438
@dubemccready7438 Год назад
Obviously anything Maori, will cause those who may/may not understand that simply a Karakia is just a nice way to bless those at any such meetings, it is a blessing to those in attendance, carrying on the days duties in a blessed way and in safety. Now all of a sudden it is detrimental to all those in attendance or otherwise, I sense it is another excuse to vilify anything Maori, it is not a vicious attack to anyone tho I suggest Don Brash is on the band wagon because it suits his agenda. Go figure
@peterrhodes5663
@peterrhodes5663 Год назад
If someone stood up at that meeting and started pushing another religion or belief, that would be equally out of place. It's no different than those annoying Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on peoples doors every month, and pushing their nonsense. If a meeting is nonreligious, then leave all that religious stuff at the door. Simple.
@johnmartin7158
@johnmartin7158 Год назад
Until Mayor Jepson made it into a drama and acting like a spoilt child no one minded the Karakia.
@NA-sj9jy
@NA-sj9jy Год назад
Yes, then have a blessing in English then, and every other nationality on the council...they a blessing. Next thing you know, half an hour is tired up of blessings before the council can get on with what they are meant to be doing. Where does it stop?
@labellaangora6887
@labellaangora6887 Год назад
@@johnmartin7158 They probably did mind but you see what happens if you object, a mob gathering at your door hurling abuse and threats, he has been calm and clear, he even tried to compromise but the 'spoilt children ' outside say it's not good enough, it's all or nothing for them , it's a tactic that has worked for decades, I'm not too sure if Kiwis have the patience for it anymore
@peterrhodes5663
@peterrhodes5663 Год назад
@@johnmartin7158 More like tolerated it for fear of being branded a racist, just like important visitors to NZ have to tolerate a bunch of idiots wearing grass skirts, carrying clubs, and poking their tongues out, holding them up, before they can clear the airport. If they arrived in a European airport, and had to endure a bunch of idiots dressed like cave men, they'd laugh at them. What a crappy first impression.
@dougbulldog9947
@dougbulldog9947 Год назад
I'm sure there is some Maori science behind this, that will enlighten us all, Like I'm sure we will all be better off if we follow the Maori ways of doing things.
@gcallananpainting
@gcallananpainting Год назад
We are all Maori in the linguistical sense. Just like we are all tangata whenua.
@dougbulldog9947
@dougbulldog9947 Год назад
@@gcallananpaintingyeh common people of the land
@tasselhoff
@tasselhoff Год назад
So you ban prayer because they are secular, but you force secularism in its stead?!
@Anonymous-c4p
@Anonymous-c4p Год назад
Yes this doesn't bode well for NZ 🤷‍♂️
@johnmartin7158
@johnmartin7158 Год назад
I support the Karakia. Why is Mayor Jepson and Don Brash making a big deal about it. What’s the drama about the Karakia.
@Cyril_Squirrel
@Cyril_Squirrel Год назад
You support karakia, others don't. That's the big deal.
@vanessamay3689
@vanessamay3689 Год назад
If it is was a prayer in English which stands alongside maori there will be an uprising.
@andreatodd3095
@andreatodd3095 Год назад
It's the time it takes up and that time is meant to be used for council business, the only blessing needed is for the work to be done for the tax/rate payers. Simple.
@StGammon77
@StGammon77 Год назад
If you don't know then learn about the foundational faith of this commonwealth Nation, Tikanga Christ with Mana of the Christian Queen and her predecessors forever. Defenders of the Gospel of God's law not the tribal cruelty of the jungle, the Chiefs abandoned that and left a legacy of speeches and principles you should read them.
@berniefynn6623
@berniefynn6623 Год назад
WHO is Brash to say our governance is secular, bloody arrogance, keep secularism out of our governance.
@berniefynn6623
@berniefynn6623 Год назад
@Beau Timberland Far better than secular, look at your world.
@richardmunford9352
@richardmunford9352 Год назад
EVERYTHING THIS MAN SAYS IS TRUE
@kiriwilliams1084
@kiriwilliams1084 Год назад
In your opy
@1080sucks
@1080sucks Год назад
Is there a possibly we end up in open conflict in NZ???? Both on the race issues & or the implementation of communism/Tyranny.
@1080sucks
@1080sucks Год назад
What do people think?
@CelestialInsights
@CelestialInsights Год назад
I believe that is where our society is headed, absolutely!
@1080sucks
@1080sucks Год назад
@@beautimberland6771 People seem more angry with all the three waters etc stuff going on. I guess the removal of freedom's & rights may have left a bad taste & they are just lashing out, verbally. Aderns people control extremism is also, disconcerting to say the least. Nats & ACT dont appear to be much better, at this point anything is better than Adern. From MY point of view she is just hate & bile.
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