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Don't bother with the M2 Pro Mac Mini! 

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The M2 Mac Mini is out, this time with a Pro version, the M2 Pro Mac Mini. But who needs the M2 Pro Mac Mini and why did I chose the base model , with the "doomed" 256GB SSD and only 8GB RAM?
Having used the M1 Mac Mini for over a year, I am using my experience to know that for the workflow I will need, the base model will be more than sufficient. I have included realistic tests (this is not just an unboxing video) using Software developer example with IntelliJ, as well as a home worker scenario, gaming and video editing (because it wouldn't be RU-vid without it 🤣)
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@raskarl
@raskarl Год назад
Really great video Alex. I quite enjoy your straightforward and down-to-earth style of reviews. You keep it real and talk from the hip. I appreciate that. Subbed and notifications are turned on!
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
I appreciate that Carl! And thanks so much for not just subbing but coming back for this one, this is what will get this channel to grow 👊🏼 And hopefully, with this support I can continue to create these videos more often 🙏🏼
@tauqeer1036
@tauqeer1036 Год назад
No sugar coating, just a fabulous show-don't-tell! That's what I'm here for. Not many other people showed it in action like you did. Very pactical narrative man. Hope to hear more like it. Subbed!
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thank you so much!! I’m glad this worked, I’m not the fastest to get reviews out but I like taking my time to actually use it 😊 welcome to the channel 🙏🏼
@SamiPaju
@SamiPaju Год назад
I bothered, but I understand your rationale perfectly well. Mine was that I am still using a 2017 MacBook Pro but the battery is the weakest link. A Mac Mini doesn't degrade that way. So I am expecting to be using the M2 Pro Mac Mini for at least 5-8 years to come. In that timeframe the upgrade from base model to base M2 Pro seems maybe a bit more reasonable:) It's about future-proofing.
@andreamoorcroft6127
@andreamoorcroft6127 Год назад
This is what I wanted to know, whether it's just good enough to do the jobs I'm doing and a little bit more. Thanks for saying how it is for people who don't care about bench marks and just want to know how it works.
@Ozzie4Para
@Ozzie4Para 8 месяцев назад
I run Chrome all day along with a TV steaming app and some day trading software. This consumed about 7GBs worth of memory on my previous M1 Air. I thought about getting the base Mac mini but I chose the Pro version that comes with 16/512. I'm glad I did because this thing is a beast. It has yet to use any swap memory. I know it's too much computer for what I do or need. But I don't plan on buying another machine for at least five years so I know my M2 Pro Mini will definitely have enough horsepower until then.
@johnhricko8212
@johnhricko8212 Год назад
"...this ain't your father's 'swap memory'. SSD's changed the playing field, ESPECIALLY for swap mem. And Apple maximizes that 'traffic' on the M series. And yeah, buy it! If you find yourself waiting for rendering, that must mean you can afford the faster one!.... For us mere mortals... base model is amazing power/cost.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Agree, this feels way more capable than traditional computers with the same specs. I’m intrigued though as how swap memory is different in SSDs. Can you point me to where I can read out about this? My understanding is that writing and re-writing on the SSD cells will eventually cause slowness, in a way just like it did on spinning disk sectors
@johnhricko8212
@johnhricko8212 Год назад
@@AlexGTech yes, and this is _precisely_ why Apple should allow upgrades / slotted memory AND SSD! Would you pay $200 for slots?.. I WOULD....
@johnhricko8212
@johnhricko8212 Год назад
@@AlexGTech I remember first learning about swap. 486s with HDD. Swap=slow. I'm referring to the huge leap in performance from HDD to SDD.... Combined with advance memory management...
@kirkharris1825
@kirkharris1825 Год назад
I really enjoyed your video and have subscribed. I am new to Mac (from windows pc) and have some concerns. I have heard Mac mini can have issues with ultra wide resolution. I have a dell 3421WE. I also read that I you can’t control monitor speaker volume with keyboard function keys? Is this true. I use logi MX keys. A gain thanks for a great video. I am going to get a Mac mini and dive into the Mac world.
@MGA19a
@MGA19a Год назад
A question -> what would you go for if you would need to use (pretty intensely for work) mainly office365 directly on Mac BUT also Parallels with Win on VM (with office 365 - mainly excel) - mini m2 with 24gb ram or m2 pro with 16gb ram (both would have 512 ssd inside - of course attaching external ssd for anything else) as this would be my struggle now what to order ? Thank you in advance for answer ! 😁
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Oh my God!!! I literally just uploaded that very video!! 👊🏼
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1ezNpy1vBqQ.html
@kostgright2705
@kostgright2705 Год назад
Thank you! A real thank you! God knows I was hoping someone might do this kind of review. You have my upvote, and from now a new subscriber.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Awesome, thank you! I am so glad this has been helpful! Am doing another video on it this weekend, so I hope to see you there 👊🏼
@RealJoseph123
@RealJoseph123 Год назад
I’m not a desktop guy, but that M2 Mac mini is perfect. The Max Tech video on the Mac mini doesn’t really make me mad, they lowered the price so I don’t care. The M2 MacBook Pros are another story, but the Mac mini price is a steal.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Hi Joe! same here, I think if we are talking to tech geeks then I see the point but for a lot of people, this machine is more than capable
@RealJoseph123
@RealJoseph123 Год назад
@@AlexGTech I make the same mistake when talking to regular people. They were looking at me weirdly when I was talking about Apple because they had no idea what the heck I’m talking about. They also were staring at me with a blank expression. I think we need to tone it down a bit. Feels like we are just making it a bigger deal than what it needs to be. The Mac mini is still a very capable machine for the low price!
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Absolutely!
@marshymellow6335
@marshymellow6335 Год назад
At last..someone who tells you what the base model is capable of doing and if it’s worth buying. I’ve always used an iPhone,iPad and found those easy to use and wanted to add a MacBook or Mac mini to my setup as everything works and syncs flawlessly together . But only ever using a windows machine I didn’t know how much of a transition it would be. Great video,keep up the good work and glad I found your channel 👍. YNWA
@garrettleonard104
@garrettleonard104 Год назад
The issue is the more SWAP used, the more it'll kill the onboard drive faster, the lower the onboard drive quantity is (Smaller it is) the fewer reads and writes it can do before it dies.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
That's true, for the odd spike in usage it's fine but running constantly on the edge is not going to be good in the long run
@bp24964
@bp24964 Год назад
You my friend, have found another subscriber. It's so difficult to find good reviews that focus more on everyday use instead of pointless benchmark scores - as if all I'm doing with my computer is run Geekbench and Blender benchmarks all day long till the next version comes out 🤦🏻‍♂
@RichardServello
@RichardServello Год назад
Just from the title I'm going to say, ignore this video. The M2 Pro Mac mini is FANTASTIC and an excellent machine. Been loving it since release.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Cool story
@MosesJSaldanha
@MosesJSaldanha Год назад
Did you get a Prime sponsorship? 😮
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Haha 😂 I wish! It’s my son’s bottle
@MosesJSaldanha
@MosesJSaldanha Год назад
@@AlexGTech Haha cool cool. Nicely done review appreciate it. Subbed good luck to the channel .
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
thank you, welcome aboard!
@mgscheue
@mgscheue Год назад
I did order the Pro to replace my 2018 i5 mini (which also is still going great but I'm going to relegate that to a secondary machine), but I also know it's probably overkill for me. I agree 100% that the base mini is great for most people. Thanks for this very balanced, thoughtful review. Nice Monza poster, too!
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Good choice though, if you can afford it and you’re not looking to upgrade again for a while, this makes perfect sense!
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
And yes, these are the tracks I’ve been to, one day I will do a tour of the studio 😊 lots of F1 stuff
@mgscheue
@mgscheue Год назад
@@AlexGTech Would love to see that. I’ve only “visited” Monza in iRacing.
@mgscheue
@mgscheue Год назад
@@AlexGTech Yep, I tend to keep things for a long time.
@p6x2
@p6x2 Год назад
Absolutely correct! we don't need anything but the Mini M2 stock: 8Gb and 256 Gb SSD; here's why: -I am currently using a Mac Book Pro from 2013, with 8Gb memory and 256 Gb of SSD. I do amateur photography and video, use Affinity Photo and iMovie. Of course, the productivity is not stellar, but as I am not a professional, my 10 years old Mac Book Pro still cover all my needs. -Do not succumb to Apple's obvious marketing tricks! what they want, is to create anxiety since they know that you know that you are going to be stuck with your computer without any way to upgrade it. The 8Gb memory is adequate, especially is your 256Gb SSD is used as a memory swap. You can easily add 1 Terabyte of external drive as your storage. All the Mac Mini M2 ladder is conceived to make you want to get the next model. -I use a NAS system. Network Acess Storage. It means that I have a 2 Terabytes central storage connected to my modem router and accessible from WiFi. This is slower than a drive attached to your computer, but with the new WiFi standard, it can only get better. Any computer in my house can store files on this NAS Cloud.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
That's incredible! What a great statement of durability there. And couldn't agree more, Apple will always try to make us believe we have the most obsolete computer, even if it's a year old! NAS is such a great move, that is what I use too, as well as my M.2 enclosures for mobility.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Are you team base model or upgrading? Reply with 🍟 if you're team base model and 🌶 if you are upgrading! By the way, sorry I am late on this, but I thought I'd use the machine before doing the video. I hope you appreciated the tests I've done here and there's definitley more to come on this! I was able to run a Windows VM, play Forza Horizon online and run many apps simultaneously. This base model machine absolutely flies for many different types of workflows. Have a great day! 🙏🏼
@geegamiing
@geegamiing Год назад
🍟
@taskman28
@taskman28 Год назад
I'm still on the fence.. I have a 2018 Mac Mini i5 Intel w/512Gb SSD & 8Gb Mem. If I spec out an M2 w/512Gb SSD & 16Gb Mem for $999 or M2 Pro Base system @ $1299 other than IO ports in the back what am I gaining? I'm a casual user and trying to decide on the M2 or the M2 Pro with the same specs. How much more future proofing am I doing with the Pro over the standard M2?
@joakimtollerud2172
@joakimtollerud2172 Год назад
how about 10 bit 4.2.2. 4k video, with color correction and some luts? 5 -10 min videos. Will it skip frames a lot on the time line?
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
@@joakimtollerud2172 I will try that (the video I was editing (using an external M.2 enclosure) as a quick test was my Apple Watch ultra review (about 10 mins long 4K 10bit 4:2:2 filmed in S-Log on the A7Siii) so should be a decent test.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
@@geegamiing 👊🏼
@Halo9K
@Halo9K Год назад
It would be great if you would do a video focusing on how you run Windows 11 and how to set it up. Thanks. Great videos!
@alexandrgarlock4075
@alexandrgarlock4075 Год назад
THANK YOU. Exactly just use the thing! I replaced my Mac mini 2014. LOL Blows it out of the water the base model.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thank you! Which one are you considering for your work?
@BarKeegan
@BarKeegan Год назад
I’ve been yo-yoing between upgrading to this or a prebuilt PC. I usually run a machine into the ground after about 10yrs, so wondering which will be best bang-for-the-buck
@jacobrich7785
@jacobrich7785 Год назад
Genuinely the most helpful review I've seen so far. I'm having some issues with my base m1 MacBook air slowing down when browing or heavy research for school. Thinking I'll switch to the m2 mini with a 16gb upgrade. Student price should make a it a good deal at $680!
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thank you so much Jacob, glad it was helpful! Uploading another video today as I tried to push the M2 a bit harder. Still amazed at how much it can cope with. 16GB will be even greater for multitasking
@DanielMiller82
@DanielMiller82 Год назад
using memory swap on SSD can very quickly kill it.
@erikwestre7970
@erikwestre7970 Год назад
The base model of the M2 mini makes no sense to me. A refurbished M1 Mac mini with 512/16 would be far more capable. It would also run colder and most likely throttle less, and/or make less noise. No point having the M2, if the slow ssd and thermals lets it down.
@carboncarbonx43
@carboncarbonx43 Год назад
Your reviews are par perfecto mungo! Muchacho De La Cine Premiere! OLE! I let you kiss my sister.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Hahaha I love that, it made me laugh 😂
@MosesJSaldanha
@MosesJSaldanha Год назад
I just ordered this. I have a couple of the M1 ones and I was worried after all the reviews but this put my mind at ease.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Glad this helped! It’s certainly a highly performing machine, early days but I’m really impressed!
@MosesJSaldanha
@MosesJSaldanha Год назад
@@AlexGTech Thank you. Not so worried anymore. 🙏😊
@strider316ny
@strider316ny Год назад
But isnt memory swapping a bad thing for the life of the SSD? Better to be safe and get the 16 ram
@strider316ny
@strider316ny Год назад
@@swenyb.2976 I am not familiar with prices in Europe but here in the U.S. you can get the Mac Mini M2 for $499 (education price). The Mac mini M1 (same specs 8/256) cost $599. Price wise makes sense getting the newer model and use the $100 savings in upgrading the memory to 16 and in my case also upgrade the storage to 512. I am not transferring extreme amounts of data and waiting a minute extra won’t make a difference. I’ve read and watched information regarding memory and pretty much the common consensus is to upgrade to 16 as a recommendation.
@bernieburnalot
@bernieburnalot Год назад
Wow! What a truly unique and advanced perspective in this review. I was sitting on the fence about this, worried about the base model M2, considering the fact that I do video editing and heavy duty music production. You are absolutely right about the SSD, and worrying too much about transfer speeds, export times, etc. Subscribed!
@mich8261
@mich8261 Год назад
Thank you for this assessment. It is exactly what I was looking for. So many other reviewers “you need to increase memory to 16gb and SSD to 512, but for a mere $300 more you could have the M2 Pro”. That’s ridiculous because in order to arrive at the “mere” $300 difference you have had to spec up by $300. In any case, I am only looking to run Lightroom, some Photoshop, and Topaz Labs plugins. I will likely end up with the M2/16GB/512SSD.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
My pleasure! And I 100% agree with you, memory to 16GB I can see for some use cases, even for myself if I didn’t have a MacBook Pro. But upgrading the SSD on a desktop feels like a bit of a waste for that much money
@castielvargastv7931
@castielvargastv7931 Год назад
I dont buy the cripple mac. The 256 ssd thing is a typical apple shit move. To me it makes no sense to buy a small computer if i have to rely on externals and cable because apple thinks super small , super slow ssds are a thing in 2023. if i put a ssd in my computer i start with 2 terrabyte .
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Really can't disagree with you. Apple ARE indeed cutting corners here (and in other devices too). But objectively, the target consumer for a Mac Mini will not be pushing those boundaries that we see here on YouTUbe (4K and 8K video editing). In my tests, 4K video editing is possible without multitasking whih I am amazed by. But not everyone is a content creator...
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Also, not sure I'd want give Apple an extra 600/800 dollars for 2TB when I can pay about $200 for an SSD that performs just as well for my needs.
@chasing-liberty
@chasing-liberty Год назад
I think the best argument against buying this machine is that the SSD is going to get thrashed resulting in it dying before you would like. SSD's have a finite number of read and writes, you pointed out that the Mini and OSX is doing a great job of managing the memory, this means lots of swap file usage resulting in multiple read and writes to the realatively small SSD, both a larger memory pool and a larger SSD will reduce the number of read/writes and result in a longer lifespan for the SOC memory
@TheDanEdwards
@TheDanEdwards Год назад
No computer should have just one boot disk. Making a second boot disk is easy in MacOS. Just buy a Thunderbolt external enclosure for SSDs, get a good 1TB SSD, and use that. I priced these at a total of $160 just recently. A Thunderbolt 4 external SSD will be faster than the internal SSD anyway.
@codenamegrs9278
@codenamegrs9278 Год назад
people that have been buying Apple Macbooks since 2016 are consenting to Soldering the SSDs onto the motherboards and are also consenting to Apple's overpriced SSDs (3x - 4x more than any other manufacturer on amazon like Samsung , Sabrent , Seagate , Kingston , Western Digital ) Example : 2TB @ Apple ---> 800$ while on amazon a 2TB Samsung980PRO (easily replaceable) costs 200$. what are we doing broskies?
@suitcafe
@suitcafe Год назад
Its the same as saying a base Porsche. Is there really such a thing as a base Porsche?
@eddiegardner8232
@eddiegardner8232 11 месяцев назад
The only problem with RU-vidrs doing reviews is that what they do routinely is process large video files. Most of the rest of the world doesn't process large video files, and is not too concerned with multiple video decoder hardware or copying 40 Gigabyte files back and forth, or trying to edit videos and keep them fitting into DRAM memory. The more mundane stuff fits into 8 Gig main memory with only occasional swapping onto the SSD when a large number of Safari tabs or several other programs are all running at the same time. Need a Pro chip? Hardly. If so, get a Studio instead, where the base configuration is sized for more Pro needs, including the cooling solution.
@bennym1956
@bennym1956 Год назад
So IF you don't code, do RU-vid vid's, no Photoshoping like me aka a casual average user then it's probably a great cheaper step-up from an Intel iMac !!!!???!!! Miss the days of completely upgradable Macs, so ole legends say...lol But true !
@sidpablo
@sidpablo Год назад
Hey Alex. Thanks for sharing your experience which is very informative and good editing too. I might go with the m2 pro mac mini with the 16gb and 512 base model just cause im going back to study at the uni and the machine will be used for a lot of stuff (coding included). Id like to say that the base m2 mac mini model is sufficient enough compared to say my 10th gen gaming laptop. Which is like a vacuum cleaner when on performance mode. I was thinking of getting the m2 macbook air so as to get the screen and keyboard but that will just tempt me to bring it everywhere and i dont like my work/study with me in bed. 😅 Love seeing your content. Definitely will turn on notif from now on.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thank you so much!! Yes, 16GB RAM would be the minimum upgrade I'd recommend if y ou are looking to push the computer. M2 Pro of course is even better, but in today's video (uploading right now) I managed to "break" the 8GB RAM, but the processor itself was actually only 10-15% utilised. I was being very silly though, doing somethign that I wouldnt even try on my M1 Max so I am still impressed by how much it took to make it struggle.
@sidpablo
@sidpablo Год назад
@@AlexGTech And thats a real tech reviewer always pushing the limits of his gears.
@Arkadietza
@Arkadietza Год назад
Why nobody share info about how the games like CS GO and Diablo are running on this one? Also why nobody gives an info does 1TB SSD is splitted to two different chipsets or not? That's what I am looking for. Rest is in description.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
I will try CS GO. Will it run on a Windows VM? I have GeForceNOW but I am guessing you want to see it on the machine itself? Never played Diablo but will give it a go!
@jirikocman
@jirikocman Год назад
Switched from M1 MBA few months ago to Windows convertible, 14" 2,8k OLED touchscreen laptop, but I missing MacOS feel. So those new M2 Mini seems really goog, especially with lower price, Here in Czech Rep. M1 Mac Mini was starting at 22k CZK, M2 Mini starts at 17,5k CZK which is 20% lower price, my favorite seller offers it cheaper for 16,7k. So, my wallet is ready to place order, but I have no pragmatic reason to buy third computer - one Windows gaming machine and mentioned laptop... But that feel that you missing MacOS machine is here, so will see if realistic needs wins against tech fan wishes. Maybe I will wait few weeks to see that used market will reflect new prices of M2 Minis and there will be better offers for M1 Minis, right now I was able to find cheapest base M1 for 15k CZK, but if I can buy new M2 for less than 17k there is no reason to buy used one. But for something like 12k it will be great deal for me even 2yrs old M1 Mini and I will most likely pull trigger. I will even look for M1 16/512 version for less than 20k to pull trigger. If I dont fined used one for my price, I will opt in new M2 Mini 16/256.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Hi Jiri! Yes that price is tempting! I’m glad Apple reduced the price for this machine. You’re right, because the price is quite close to the M1 it makes more sense to get the M2. Based on my last two days of usage I’m quite impressed by how much I was able to do on it, even though it’s the base model
@jirikocman
@jirikocman Год назад
@@AlexGTech Hey Alex, your comment makes me more interested to buy one. But I have to repeat to myself: dp you really need third computer? :-; NOO! But that feel buying new stuf.. hard to say no.. Guess You know what I'm mean, right?
@MarineX
@MarineX Год назад
Finally someone that stopped the cap. Ppl grabbing this won't care about SSD speeds
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thanks man! Right?! This is a great machine for a heck of a lot of people, I’m amazed at how much I was able to throw at it.
@captureinsidethesound
@captureinsidethesound 9 месяцев назад
Apple doesn't seem to put much effort into programming applications that could really harness the full potential of the M-Series GPU's.
@slackliner
@slackliner Год назад
Finally. I watched so much recent videos and all of them after paper unpacking are mainly bullshit benchmarks with some trying to measure export times. Nobody talks really about the usability and flow during the real use. Thanks god I stumbled on this video (YT recommended). Real life use talk!
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thank you! (And thanks YT algorithm 😂) I think you’re gonna like todays video too!
@PantalonesFrescos
@PantalonesFrescos Год назад
So the base model can handle Lightroom just fine with 8gb of ram or will it struggle?
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
100% fine! I will play with a bit more and try exporting like 20-30 images at once, but first signs is that this will cope just fine. How busy do you get with Lightroom?
@melee75
@melee75 Год назад
The title of this video is confusing. You’re reviewing the base model M2 Mac Mini not the M2 Pro Mac Mini. Or am I missing something.
@igorcosta5482
@igorcosta5482 Год назад
If you compare this $499 machine with an fucking Mac Pro 2019, it’s crazy.
@thepurpleufo
@thepurpleufo Год назад
Everything you say makes perfect sense for the vast majority of users. The kind of users who really *need* a lot more power and speed already know they need more and won't even be looking at the basic stuff.
@AndyJMacLeod
@AndyJMacLeod Год назад
Great video. My M2 Mini arrived today. I went for the 16GB, 1TB model. Got the educational discount, so it was £1099. If I was to spend any more than that on it, I would jump to the Pro chip…
@nobo6687
@nobo6687 Год назад
For fractals use iPhone apps they are crazy fast ❤
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thanks for the tip! Any specific apps?
@DeltaGaiya
@DeltaGaiya Год назад
Okay, honestly, I’m going to be getting one of these for 2D/3D Art where I’ll likely be blending 3D elements made in blender into my 2D environments fairly frequently. The 3D assets might get a little large from time to time, but it likely won’t matter that much as it’ll probably still be used for my 2D workflow. I currently have the M1 Pro MBP and it works just fine (surprise). Should I shoot for the M2 Mac mini and look for upgrading memory, or go with the M2 Pro instead??
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
M2 Pro would be the safest bet of course, but I'd be curious to know if the standard M2 would cope with it. I am happy to test this for you, but I have no idea how to push it in 3D work. So if there are simple workflows examples that a noob like me can follow, I am happy to include it in my next video. I've done some tests on the M2 iPad Pro with Nomad and Shapr3D but not sure if those are relevant for you: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-svY0Mv5I_80.html
@philipward7883
@philipward7883 Год назад
​@@AlexGTechr
@ChrisDarby80
@ChrisDarby80 Год назад
Watching those videos where they say like "the M2 with 8Gb took 1 minute 7 seconds to render while the M2 with 16Gb took 1 minutes and 5 seconds to render... clearly if you're serious about your render times you must get the 16Gb" I use an M1 Macbook Air with 8gb/256 and have done for the last 2 years... i'll be upgrading soon, because why not... but so far having to wait an extra minute for something to render... what kind of crazy deadlines are people on that they need that extra minute of time saved!
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
agree - for serious work and rendering times people will go for the MacBook Pros or Studios to be honest...
@ambiencenatures
@ambiencenatures Год назад
Hey Alex I'm on budget right now hmm 24gb unified memory and 256gb ssd is enough? and I should buy a 1TB external SSD?
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Hi there! Really depends on what you will use it for. In my experience with the M2 MacBook Air (which has 16GB RAM and no fans!) that was more than enough for me. I’ve done a few videos about that machine so you can have an idea of what I was able to run with 16GB and 256GB SSD. Because the Mini has cooling I’d imagine the performance will be even better! So 24GB RAM should be plenty, and maybe even too much depending on your workflow
@onimashou8705
@onimashou8705 Год назад
To the point I like that subscribed
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thank you so much! 👊🏼 welcome to the channel
@BradyReading
@BradyReading Год назад
Excellent content. Real world usage should be king in reviews. "Who gives a shit what the benchmarks say" - Exactly. Can I get my work done? Yes? Cool. $600 is a steal.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Exactly! I love geeking out on this stuff, but ultimately is about getting the job done.
@Michaelaz62
@Michaelaz62 Год назад
Alex, what ultra-wide monitor do you recommend? I am a college professor, I use Microsoft products, and watch a lot of YoutTube. Please help.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
I use the LG 34" at home. Nto very expensive and not really gaming-like performance. But perfect for my 9-5 work and light consumption like you're saying, RU-vid and Netflix... This is the model I went with: geni.us/mPAMQB7
@horstlippitsch
@horstlippitsch Год назад
Great master! Which kind of Mac Mini are good for Musikproduktion? And what kind of monitor do you use?
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
I'd say for music production you may want to consider a bit more memory or even the M2 Pro (I am reviewing that soon!). My monitor is an Alienware gaming monitor, this one here: geni.us/9eOsAs
@88haiduk
@88haiduk Год назад
Great video Alex. Could you tell me please which monitor do you use? I'm looking to buy mac mini m2 and looking for a monitor too Thanks
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thank you! That's the Alienware 34": geni.us/9eOsAs
@MarcosRavena
@MarcosRavena Год назад
Ladies and gentlemen we have the killer review. Thanks Alex! The prices are lower in USA. But in Brazil a M2 Pro Mac mini would cost about R$15,000. So it would be a better deal take the M2 model with 16GB of memory and 512GB of storage and pay about R$8,500 on unofficial traders. For those who already have monitor, mouse and keyboard would be even better. Which is my case. I’m currently using a 2014 i5 Mac mini. Working as a product designer this upgraded M2 would be great. Most of my work is online: Figma and FigJam files, Google based tools and other management tools. I hardly use Photoshop and Illustrator. Sometimes I work on Final Cut and Logic Pro editing light weight projects. What do you think!? Thanks again!
@edsonsantiago9135
@edsonsantiago9135 Год назад
Bom dia. Qual monitor você usa com o mac mini? Qual você me indica? Obrigado.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Oh Marcos!! You're making me blush 😊 Holy moly, R$ 15,000!! You can buy a car for that 🤯 YEs, for your workflow at the very least the 16GB upgrade would make sense. Adobe apps take between 1.5 and 2GB of RAM, even with nothing open! Final Cut... Well, you're gonna like today's video 🤣
@MarcosRavena
@MarcosRavena Год назад
@@AlexGTech nah! Here in Brazil due to the crisis car prices are getting high. R$60,000 for a popular base model. Certainly I’ll watch your new video. Thanks again!
@MarcosRavena
@MarcosRavena Год назад
@@edsonsantiago9135 eu estou usando o Samsung U28R550UQ. 28” 4K. Paguei R$2.100 há exato um ano. É excelente. Havia outros mais baratos, mas fiquei com medo de não ter suporte, caso precisasse. Samsung é bem consolidada no Brasil. Precisa apenas ficar atento ao modelo do Mac mini, pois a saída HDMI é defasada nesse modelo de entrada. O meu modelo, por exemplo (2014 8GB i5), 4K só via HDMI e a 60hz. Apesar do monitor ter saída Display Port, que costuma ser melhor, não daria pra usar 4K, que seria via adaptador Mini Display Port (Thunderbolt 2). Dependendo do seu uso nem precisa ser 4K. 2k entrega uma qualidade excelente. A Dell tinha alguns modelos nessa categoria. No meu caso 2k resolveria, mas como sabia que trocaria de Mac em breve, preferi pegar um “future proof”, como dizem. Além do modelo, pesquise ofertas. O site zoom é muito bom pra comprar preços. O meu eu achei com desconto num site chamado Eletrum. Acho que atende o Brazil todo. Boa sorte!
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Desculpa Edson pela demora, esse eh o Alienware 34" Ultrawide: geni.us/9eOsAs
@JoeCastellon
@JoeCastellon Год назад
To be honest, I'm more curious about that item that appears to be a riser with an LED bar that's on your desk right under your monitor 🤔
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Haha it’s a lovely bit of kit! Check it out here: bit.ly/3JjYAOn
@JoeCastellon
@JoeCastellon Год назад
@@AlexGTech that is lovely!! I’m saving this link because I’ll be able to afford it someday. I appreciate it!
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
My pleasure. I am uploading the entire setup tomorrow, I think you will like it 🙏🏼
@dodger2876
@dodger2876 Год назад
Thanks a lot for this video without stupid benchmarks or reading the specs etc. I prefer real world experiences. Watching your clip was the last step to my the base model as an addition to my Windows PC and the 2017 MacBook Air I own since September (my first Apple computer).
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Oh thank you so much! YEs, I do like to include some tests in my video but I think it's best to actually use it! I think you're gonna enjoy today's video too: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1ezNpy1vBqQ.html 🙏🏼 have a good one!
@harmindersinghsangha1716
@harmindersinghsangha1716 Год назад
Hi perfect video, I was looking for a video like this and subscribed, not a pro nor a creator, I am just wondering for the long term if base model m2 with added 8 go ram and added 256 gab memory would be a wider choice, for 5 + years timeframe
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thank you so much! Honestly, this means a lot. Doing this on the side and hearing this makes all the hard work pay off! Welcome aboard 🙏🏼
@MrDragonwriter
@MrDragonwriter Год назад
Seriously thank you for this. I’ll be getting an M2 with a single hard drive and either 16 or 24 gig upgrade. I do photo editing word processing mostly, but I’m getting into AI artwork
@syedazmatali5707
@syedazmatali5707 Год назад
what monitor are you using?
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Hi there, it’s an Alienware 👽 Here it is: geni.us/9eOsAs
@angeltan3622
@angeltan3622 Год назад
Excuse me? for students is not $599. It’s $499. 😢
@vitusyu9583
@vitusyu9583 Год назад
I’d like to know more about how did you setup windows vm under this M2 Mini. I have got a good insight from you regarding the base model, but I also wanna run a Windows inside the Mac.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
If you go to Parallels dot com (it requires a license) you can give it a go. Fairly easy to follow along.
@anonymous_friend
@anonymous_friend Год назад
How do I run a Windows virtual machine on mac ?
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Check out this video here where I explain that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vYe3xTU01ws.html
@anonymous_friend
@anonymous_friend Год назад
@@AlexGTech I didnt see that in that video
@codykill2
@codykill2 Год назад
Love the review! Thank you 🙏🏼 also I really like your desk and want to buy one for my studio, what desk is that you use for your setup?
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Hey Chandler, thank you so much!! The desk is from Aktiv Desk (Swedish brand) this one here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ejGjL9F4dQI.html
@segiatera
@segiatera Год назад
So maybe 16gb - 256gb for a start, maybe add external in the future would be the best path?
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Yes, I'd always recommend prioritising RAM these days as you can always add fast storage later.
@PeterMossUkulele
@PeterMossUkulele Год назад
I have been using a MacBook Pro mid 2015 intel i7 for creating and editing 2x 1080p video layers interlaced with titles and music jingles. It has worked fairly ok for the past 3 years but the Mac is on its limits and when using Final cut, as I have to constantly let it catch up and the noisy fan seems to be on most of the time. I am in the market for a new Mac mini M2 and hopefully by adding 16Gb Ram there should be an improvement. I plan to keep it for 3 years and then trade it for the M4/5 ?? or whatever is out by then. Your thoughts please........
@scottaubrey8392
@scottaubrey8392 Год назад
Can I ask what monitor you’re using please?
@AGPreston12
@AGPreston12 Год назад
I appreciate the perspective, I just got the base model, M2 Mac mini today, I don't create content, but consume it and this should be more than enough.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thank you, I am glad you found it useful! It's a super powerful Mac, it will cope with the majority of use cases, I feel. I did try to break it in today's video 🤣
@lowrivera
@lowrivera Год назад
Ironic, after a minute and fifteen seconds of arrogantly taking himself up, he claims "down to earth".
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
😘
@adrian_s9849
@adrian_s9849 Год назад
Is the Mac mini base edition with 8gb ram good enough for Adobe apps like illustrator, indesign photoshop etc? Thanks
@captureinsidethesound
@captureinsidethesound 9 месяцев назад
Yes. The older Intel based models could handle it and the M-Series beat most of those to a bloody shame. Its really the GPU dependent applications that really put up a challenge for the M-Series in which most do not need that performance scale. GPU dependent scales like 3D rendering, +4K resolution video editing and gaming. Illustrator, Photoshop or any other image/vector editing software is mostly CPU dependent so you very much covered there. You need nothing more than the older M1 Mac Mini and 8GB of memory and although having the 16GB model is nice its not worth it unless the price different justifies it.
@maxwellgerard8384
@maxwellgerard8384 Год назад
What monitor are you on here?
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
It's the 👽 Alienware 34 inch: geni.us/9eOsAs 👊🏼
@bladirosario
@bladirosario Год назад
Nice! Do you think it can handle games like C.O.D. Warzone?
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
I haven't tried that yet!! Will definitely give it a go though, I love that game
@bitcoinisfreedommoney.fckt2663
Thanks I also find those in-depth reviews are bit too much. I’m pretty sure an M2 with 16GB RAM and 512GB storage is enough for my uses
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
oh yes, that will be enough for a lot of people. I have a similar confif M2 Macbook Air and that thing flies!
@WBBPhotography_Maine
@WBBPhotography_Maine Год назад
MONZA! The 2023 F1 season starts in a few weeks! My Mac M2 Pro Mini arrives today. It is my first foray into the Apple "sandbox". I have been a Windows user for 30 years...... It's time for me to make the change and these Minis just make so much sense! Thank you for the video! (And yes, I watched A WHOLE BUNCH of "mini videos" before I placed my order. ).
@abuyco
@abuyco Год назад
For me.... I'm happy to hear my M1 Mac Mini SSD speeds are faster because it's a perfect reason to remain Happy NOT upgrading to the M2!
@pedrog4651
@pedrog4651 Год назад
Nice video and presentation. Which Alienware monitor are you using ? Thanks.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thanks Pedro, it’s this one, 34 inch: amzn.to/3wxOuld
@rmaha1965
@rmaha1965 Год назад
I'm continuously impressed by the content of your videos and thank you for making this as it answers questions that I had from a "normal user" and non-content creator perspective. I'm thinking about getting the new Mac mini as I previously had the Intel i5 and liked it very much but it became slow. I'm a "gamer" on a Mac (I know, shocker) and run a high end flight simulator program so the graphics capabilities are important to me as is the RAM and higher storage SSD. Keep up the great work.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
You're very welcome Rob! I think 16GB for that sort of gaming is probably better but for clouda gaming like XBox/GeForceNOW this base model isnt't really breaking a sweat. I haven't tried installing a full game on my Windows virtual machine, but that would be quite silly with only 256GB 🤣 Thanks so much for the kind words and hope to see you here agan soon 👊🏼
@ZhuJo99
@ZhuJo99 Год назад
Even content creators will have a hard time to utilize Pro. For Photoshop and other 2D work, web development you really don’t need 20 cores, powerful GPU and other things. What has changed in 10 years in this area when even base Mac mini beats Mac Pro from a few years ago? Nothing. Really, absolutely nothing. But suddenly, it’s “not enough”. Nonsense.
@chasmiller312
@chasmiller312 Год назад
I like your suggestions! What the monitor the you are using? Would it be good for photo editing?
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Hi there, thank you! This is a gaming monitor so not really the best for photo editing, might be ok for people portraits but you will get some fringing artefacts especially in text, if you’re photographing products. This is the one in this video:amzn.to/3Hy65jg This is a good 4K one (very colour accurate)I use and reviewed it in the channel before: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZKsdHmCa5JY.html
@RameshKumar-ng3nf
@RameshKumar-ng3nf Год назад
Hello Alex, Please say honestly if i am wrong or right here. I ordered the regular M2 mac Mini with specs - 24GB RAM , 512 GB SSD storage. Didnt go for the Pro M2 mac mini as i never use the extra ports for more than 1 monitor. I am more in to a programmer studying Engineering and occasional video editing in FCP , Guitar recording projects in logic proX. Please let me know if the above specs will be enough for my works for long term use . Thanks !
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
More than enough! By my tests eve the 16GB would have been ok, think you’re safe there!
@RameshKumar-ng3nf
@RameshKumar-ng3nf Год назад
@@AlexGTech Thanks a lot Alex 😊. I feel relieved i am safe & okay with my specs😊. Have a good day !
@MATIvmr
@MATIvmr Год назад
Cool vid Subbed 👊
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Awesome! Thank you!!!
@jurajjakubik7258
@jurajjakubik7258 Год назад
Great video, Alex! I think this is exactly what buyers needs to known between PRO and classic. My question is: what brand is your bottom down T-shirt you are wearing in this video? Thanks
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thank you! 🙏🏼 This shirt is by a company called AndSons - love their stuff! Maybe I should ask them to sponsor me 🤣
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Hi there, I was getting a lot of nice comments about the shirt so I contacted the brand and they are giving all my viewers 20% OFF. www.andsons.co.uk/discount/ALEX20 use ALEX20 at checkout 👊🏼
@EvansAudio
@EvansAudio Год назад
Nice
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thank you kindly! 🙏🏼
@BryanSnider
@BryanSnider Год назад
I purchased the $799 to replace a 2009 Mac Pro that I used as my backup computer to my main Mac Studio M1 Ultra. I’m very happy with decision. In fact I got to test it out in a real world setting. While working the other day, I accidentally deleted some important OS filed on my Mac Studio Ultra. So while I reformatted and freshly installed Ventura, I used my new Mac mini m2, 512GB and 8GB ram to finish editing photos for a client. I was a bit nervous but to be quiet honest I was blown away. The M2 mini felt just as fast. I’m sure technically it was slower, but it wasn’t noticeable. At one time I even subconsciously opened 14 or so photos in Photoshop from Lightroom and edited them as well. Exporting felt just as fast. In other words, this machine is a steal and like many people have said, apple def tries to give you FOMO with their upgrade ladder. I think tomorrow I’m going to edit a clients video on it for the fun of it. Again I mainly bought this as a backup computer and it’s blown my expectations
@lazyhexican
@lazyhexican Год назад
Would the m2 mac mini w/ 16gb ram be ok for obs stream with a camera and able to show videos or webpages and also to edit some videos in a non pro way? 🤷‍♂️ at the very most play around with blender?
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
oh absolutely! I think you will enjoy today's video! I actually managed to make it sweat. But it required a lot for that to happen!
@lazyhexican
@lazyhexican Год назад
@@AlexGTech Thanks I did watch that! Also reordered the M2! Awesome videos!
@carldaniel3155
@carldaniel3155 Год назад
M2 pro 16gb ram + 512gb SSD blackmagic speed test...Write 4619 Read 2816. Same machine with 1tb SSD = Write 6046 Read 5073. 30% faster Write and 80% faster Read speeds. Just wow what a difference. See videos on you tube from Mcstudio FPV and thefly1976.
@MarvinConnell
@MarvinConnell Год назад
Good day... Can the M2 Mac Mini base model be set to Ultrawide\21:9 refresh rates of 120Hz(2560x1080p 120Hz for example)in the Mac's Display settings? Thanks...
@robwarner9371
@robwarner9371 Год назад
New subscriber as of today. It’s great to see this kind of review. I’ve been hovering over the “Buy” button for an M2 Mini for weeks now. I have a low-end Windows 11 machine for backing up my iPhone/iPad and storing my ripped CDs in iTunes, but the cheaper machine wasn’t a good buy, and it takes so long to start up iTunes that I usually give up. As a result, I’m looking for a more logical computer to back up my Apple devices and use iTunes, so the M2 Mini is an obvious choice. Do you think 8GB will suffice for iTunes/MS Office? Great channel - so pleased I found you! Rob
@SeanTube2099
@SeanTube2099 Год назад
That’s the perfect attitude. For the majority of people the base m2 Mac is all they need.
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thanks Sean!! Absolutely, these chips are no joke! Unless you’re doing some heavy graphics or processing a lot of code, etc this machine will be great for a lot of people
@maksrej5082
@maksrej5082 Год назад
2gb swap memory is alot? i constantly have more than 20gb swap memory
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
I think that’s cumulative to be honest, I should’ve mentioned how long it took to get to 2gb.
@colindoyle9876
@colindoyle9876 Год назад
Boot OS from Thunderbolt external storage - use internal for static files
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Great shout!
@Whowhatwherewhy
@Whowhatwherewhy Год назад
I find the other influencers to be somewhat intimidating. Sure, Id like to afford the full-blown models but I'm not them. I don't need all the bells and whistles. I did get the base Mini yesterday and love it. $599 is the value and performance sweet spot. Then add in the display-- $1000. For that money, you do get a damn fine setup. If I were a pro anything and someone paid of it, yeah go big. Gave this a lot of thought to usage and this checked all the boxes. Thank you for this video for anyone who feels guilty not buying into the go big or you're a punk.
@PoeticWhiz
@PoeticWhiz Год назад
Alex, you're Shine as bright, just as that light you've. Really in love with this desktop setup...
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
Thanks so much Aabid, that’s nice to hear!
@PoeticWhiz
@PoeticWhiz Год назад
@@AlexGTech if I’d a desktop setup. I would probably rock this light setup…
@MrSpike77777
@MrSpike77777 Год назад
Good video, I was considering a m2 mini pro with 16gb / 1tb and running a vm for windows. Best of both worlds. I don't know if you mentioned but which VM are you using and do you recommend doing this or avoiding it?
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
I was using Parallels, Windows was running really well and I was able to play Forza Horizon (via XBox app) as well as run office apps all on the base model so I think the 1TB and 16GB will be more than enough - of course depending on how much you want to do on it
@MrSpike77777
@MrSpike77777 Год назад
@@AlexGTech Great thanks, I had used parallels back in 2013 with my macbook pro. It did a decent job. Appreciate the reply and info.
@carboncarbonx43
@carboncarbonx43 Год назад
Bloody Hell!
@AlexGTech
@AlexGTech Год назад
I say that a lot 😂
@charlesm.9858
@charlesm.9858 Год назад
This will be our first Apple computer so I don’t know anything that you talking about regarding worried about lag and we got the 512g so hopefully it will move a bit faster then the 256g Mahalo for your video!!
@michaelkaercher
@michaelkaercher Год назад
I think this is a compelling offer. I am not at all an apple nerd and I write that on a PC. A year ago, I bought an mac for my wife. I decided for a macbook air instead of a mac mini because the price difference was minimal. Now, the mac mini has become cheaper while the macbook air is more expensive. That makes the Mac Mini compelling. An even in absolute terms. If I configure a similar PC, I end up with a higher price. Now, the upgradeability still speaks for PCs but I tend to agree to you. For a stationary machine, you can add an external ssd and then you have a very capable machine for a decent price. That is the first mac for a while which I would consider buying for me.
@Kyle-rf5mb
@Kyle-rf5mb Год назад
Based off this a mac mini pro would be plenty for me as a train software developer? Front end, UI, some graphics and some video editing (but not proffessional be for buisness adverts for myself etc at max if i do learn editing) Anybody who has one that could confirm the pro would be plenty? My options are either upgrade the Ram to 32Gb but then its £1800 which is close to mac Studio range which i was thinking about waiting for but after this video it could be overkill for my use.
@simplydan
@simplydan Год назад
dont forget about the education shop which can get you $100 dollars off so I got the base model for $499. i'm not sure if they offer similar discounts in other countries. I'm new to MacOS I want to learn it better. I still got my windows desktop if i need to use handbrake for any heavy video compression. i'm probably one of the few who still purchase physical media but this is as heavy as my computing gets.
@laserjakk3629
@laserjakk3629 Год назад
Ótimo vídeo Alex. Estou pensando em comprar um Mac Mini M2 Pro e fazer upgrade apenas do HD pra 1tb e manter cpu 10core e ram 16gb. Meu uso é produção musical. Estava pensando em esperar mais alguns meses e comprar pelo ebay sempre aparece oportunidades ainda na garantia com bons preços daquele cara que ganhou do escritório que trabalha e já tinha um notebook ou do cara que comprou mas se arrependeu depois de alguns meses por precisar de portabilidade. Me diz o que acha.
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