DON'T BUY this WHEEL for this WHEEL BASE! Why? Watch this VIDEO! SIM RACING Moza R5 CS V2 

It’s not whining, man, but useful information so that people know what to buy or what to expect when buying such expensive gear. Not all people have pr should have knowledge in this field, or how much something weighs, just to enjoy a lap on the track. ‘Though thank you for the useful info. I appreciate it.

Yes, it’s all about FFB. As I said in other videos too, if FFB is set under 95%-90% they’ll never overheat. (I’m talking about the R9 too). From here on there’s an entire subject of discussion. If you want more power, more torque you should get a more powerful wheelbase, but maybe not everyone can afford one, and they’ll want all those 5nm , 8nm or 9nm they bought… And it’s not about GT3 have power steering, it’s all about user preferences… Not everything should be 1:1 with the real cars, even though a real GT3 car get up to 12-13nm torque.

Enjoy it man, and cross my fingers you got a good one, without overheating problems.

Actually that's a big possibility. I will do another video in AMS2, with the CS V2, to see if I get the same result or not. Thank you for the suggestion.

Yes agree it would be nice to have an apples to apples comparison to ensure the difference in simulators doesn’t have an influencing factor. Looking forward to a new review. Great video by the way 😊

Yes, I mean as long as it works once, it should always work (of course once the telemtry is configured), but, at least in my case, that doesn't happen. In one of my old videos, in ACC, i started recording with the lights not working, Moza PIT house was open in background, and like after half an hour of gameplay all of a sudden they decided they should work. 😀 I mean, this is not a deal braker for me, somehow I find it funny, and mostly, I don't care about that, but I was curious if anyone else has the same odd experience with the rev bar as I do.

@JulianNDL Probably worth reaching out to Moza support for that. I had issues with my rev bars in the past, but that was mostly me forgetting to turn the wheelbase on before starting the game.

@wisllayvitrio I'll do it just to see what they say about it, but again, I don't care about that, hehe. If i turn on the wheelbase after i start the game, the game isn't recognizing it, so I have to retsart the game.

Of course I have tried it and it doesn't overheat. The CS is just a huge and heavy thing which puts a lot of pressure on the electric motor.

@@JulianNDLlol not how it works buddy

Yes, that was a test rig. It looks worse than it was. During gameplay, you don't feel it that much.

The new room is not that small anymore. The old one was indeed tiny, and yes, it gets hotter, mostly from the heat that the PC is creating. But I don't think that is the problem, mostly because the facts i presented in the video are chronological, and it cooled down and stabilised with the ES formula wheel, when the room had the highest temperature, after many hours of gameplay. I honestly didn't expect it to happen. I thought it would be somehow the same case as with the R9, but it wasn't. Yes, regarding how the CS feels paired with the R5 i was impressed and I still am, because that thing is huge and heavy, i think it's the heaviest wheel I own, but the R5 is just that amazing. Like i also said in the video, even with limited FFB, it still felt amazing. The last gameplay footage, at the end of the video, is with limited FFB, but you can still see how great it reacts and how fast it turns back to the center.

It's funny enough that for me, it did not overheat with the ES formula wheel, even more it cooled down, even though room temperature was higher than it was when I had the CS on. FFB and torque in pithouse were at 100%, and ingame FFB was set to 96% in AMS2.

how did you install the fans? is there a link to a tutorial on everything?

@Djaym0 I mounted them behind the wheel base on the monitor stand. It all depends on how your setup or sim rig is. I've posted some pictures on the community tab, here on the channel, that I've received from a subscriber and his simple solution for mounting a fan to the wheel base.

@@JulianNDL i will have to have a look. thanks.

@Djaym0 It also depends on which coolers fo you have. I bought some really bad ones that created interference on my monitor, but they have a small stand, and with the help of that, I attached them to the monitor stand. I would recommend getting some Noctua USB fans because they're dead silent and easier to attach them to the wheelbase, unlike mine that sound like a jet engine. :))

Hahahaha. Good one!

My pleasure. Yes, the R9 is a better choice paired with the CS steering wheel.

Do you think so? :)))

@@JulianNDLya the tsw wheel is fine on the r5

Enjoy it, man! Good choice buying it. 🤗

@@JulianNDL thanks man, loved the review. Definitely saved me from wasting money on a bigger wheel, will go for the 12 inch es mod instead😁

That’s the better choice for the R5, the 12” mod. Thank you and see you on the track.

:)) Dude, it is so simple to have a look on the channel or on my other videos, to see that this was just a test rig. But why do that when you can just throw free hate, right?!? You gotta loose that steam somehow. :))

Ah, yes, completely forgot to rate your absolutely incredible logic there. The R5 overheated with the CS V2 on because the rig I used in this video was wobbly! Jeez!

@@JulianNDLAh arguging against hypothetical points you've decided i made. Its just hilarious you spend money and time on equipment and then cant be bothered to tighten things down. Again, this laziness / ignorance just brings everything else into question.

@forestnfren8146 Dude, you’re just acting stupid right now, and honestly can’t help you with that. It was a test rig, of course everything was tightened down, but that rig was just that bad. Jeez! I’m telling you man, haha, i’ve taped them on the rig. Jeez!

@@JulianNDL0:30 your entire hub and wheel are moving about 1" along the vertical axis. Its clear as day here, and again the fact you didnt notice is .-.

I really have no clue. Maybe the wheelbase boosts power a little bit to handle the wheight of the CS V2? I really don't know, but I would have expected that the R5 would feel weak paired with it, but it didn't at all. That is why I think it somehow boosts its torque. I may be completely wrong, though.

Quite simple, the weight of the wheel does very little. What however makes a huge difference is how hard you are fighting it. With a bigger wheel you get alot more leverage against the motor. So the strain on the motor increase massively with you getting more leverage against it.

Resistance=heat

These are real life scenarios, man. You know, the temperature differs all over the world and these wheel bases are a global product and they should be developed to work in all these environments. And let's be real, these are not desert like temperatures. Further more, there's no where in the manual book of these wheel bases that you should have aircom in the room where you're using them. I don't think there is one single person in this world that turns the aircom on before turning on the TV, or the computer, or you name it!

I am so sorry to hear that. Where are you from? Did you buy it directly from Moza or from a reseller? Have you tried contacting them?

@@JulianNDL to make a long story short, I was scammed by the original buyer and never got the receipt as promised. I'm in Sweden, the unit should have been bought from sim motion in the UK as I understand.

@Xpl0jd1 Ah, I see. So if I understand correctly, you bought it used? I am so sorry to hear that. That is why I never recommend buying them used, because this can happen and you can't do anything about it. Again, I am so sorry for you, man.

@@JulianNDL used can be good if there is a good person selling. Moza say I have a issue with the motor, I'm guessing more of this issue will be seen soon enough. 😊

@Xpl0jd1 Yes, that's also true, but you never know. I hope they'll find a solution for you. It's good they answered you because i've heard so many guys saying that it is almost impossible to get Moza to answer

Who is asking?

It is not that bad. Yes, it overheats sometimes with the CS V2, but if you mount an external USB fan to the wheelbase, it will handle good the CS V2. If you're satisfied with the R5, i would suggest just to get a USB fan, and you'll be good with the CS V2.

Thx for the info!@@JulianNDL

That would be the best and easiest way. Even if it would be an external fan, but, unfortunately neither the R5 or R9 don't have an active cooling solution.

so im thinking i see people still enjoying their rigs with it either way, i would be starting on a game like forza and ac and then moving up to iracing. do you think ether way i will enjoy my experience. i have only my desk and a nice gaming pc. my end goal is vr and the seat rig

@NewGen6597 For sure you'll enjoy it and I think everyone who bought them is enjoying them. I sure am every time I use my R5 or my R9. Also, if you're willing to lower the FFB a bit and not keep it at 100%, they will never overheat. From my experience, they only overheat at 100% FFB and TORQUE in Pithouse.

yes, this is around the lines i was thinking. putting it just under and i would still get the experience. im no sim racing god just a noobie XD @@JulianNDL im making my pick soon they both seem to come to like $450 where i live for like a table mount kit and 3 pedel. awesome. hopefully i can use a shifter from a different company because i wanna drift down the line

@NewGen6597 Moza just launched a relatively cheap shifter that looks good.

It's the playseat challenge. It folds up, so it's the best thing when you don't have enough space.

@@JulianNDL thanks!

Its a crappy stand tho. As u saw in that video there is waaaay to much flex. I would never use a dd wheel on a stand with that much flex.

@Doctor_Wodka It is a crappy one, but it is good if you don't have enough space. There are some mods you can do to make it more stable, plus, to be honest, it is very comfortable

Of course. For this video, I used a TV that was actually mounted on the wall, with a fair distance from the wheel base. Even so, if it would have come from the TV, it should have also be the same case in ACC, not just in WRC.

Actually this was an AI voice. I started using my voice though in the latest videos.

Hahahahah. This is a new one on the list. =))

Yes, i think it is too heavy for the R5.