Don't Let Them Bloom: Disbudding Young Roses

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A common strategy with young plants (and not just roses) is to pinch growing tips and young flowers to encourage branching - and focus the plant on healthy new growth. Here I'll demonstrate some of the common reasons this can make sense - and discuss whether it's also a good practice for the home gardener.
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28 сен 2024

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@bbr9707 2 дня назад

Thanks Jason.. That was so helpful. It’s tips like these that help us novice gardeners improve… Please keep em coming. B🤓

@vintagelady1 2 дня назад

This makes sense, especially with some of the really tiny roses I sometimes get from growers. Heirloom roses have been growing for 2 years & usually seem like they can't wait to bloom---they literally explode the first year sometimes, so what they are doing seems to be working. Since I have no room for more roses (sad, crying face here!) I probably won't be doing this, altho I may try some propagation to turn my grafted roses into own-root, & lopping of the blooms to encourage growth would be a good thing there. Thanks!

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 2 дня назад

Thanks. Own-rooting your existing roses is totally worthwhile IMO. That way you'll have replacements ready when/if the graft union fails.

@dao8805 2 дня назад

I have several very young rose plants thanks to your propagation advice and was looking forward to seeing them bloom next year so this information came at just the right time to keep me from letting this occur instead of pinching back to encourage branching. It never occurred to me that disbudding could benefit the rose plant long term. My question is: How long do you recommend disbudding before finally letting the plant form buds and bloom? In the comparison shot of the two plants, is the one on the left at the point where it will now be allowed to form buds or is it better to continue disbudding for a period beyond this stage?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 2 дня назад

I think if you saw branching consistent with the one on the left (and if it's rooted down to the sides and bottom of the pot) you might consider it "mission accomplished" and pot up/plant out and let it bloom. I know some home gardeners who go to the extreme of never allowing blooms even in the first year after transplanting into the garden. Of course it's a personal judgement call, and based on their own growing conditions, but I'd be tempted to let some blooms through as a little reward to myself.

@dao8805 2 дня назад

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm That makes sense. Thank you :)

@PETER-rj4he 2 дня назад

GOOD TO SEE YE FRIEND...always good info..⚘️

@ThatMan-h3q День назад

are you irish

@HoustonKeith72 День назад

Very helpful and makes perfect sense. Thank you Jason.

@mercury_rising 2 дня назад

Always good information!

@frankiepatterson6554 2 дня назад

Darn! Wish I knew this sooner.

@hernang7509 2 дня назад

Thanks for the tips!!

@sunnihunny 2 дня назад

Could you (or ANYONE!) give some tips on mailing a small rose bush? Or if you have a video on such? I want to share with a loved one 500 miles away but im really sceptical with being a novice on such. Thanks.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 2 дня назад

We do a lot of shipping, and if the plant is otherwise healthy and well established in the pot it will generally come through a week or so in the mail with no long-term damage. Stripping the leaves before shipping is something we started doing this year - we found that after a week in the box, many of the leaves either dropped or looked horrible anyway, so we took them off preemptively to reduce the risks of rot.

@sunnihunny 2 дня назад

@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you so much for that information!! I will get right on it. Never thought of stripping the leaves but hey! What's there to lose since I grew the plant myself and only would be out shipping cost if it didn't survive! Thinking I will add a couple of extras just in case. You are too kind.. I appreciate it so much⚘️⚘️⚘️

@andrewjames6676 15 часов назад

Thanks for the tip Jason. By the way, here in NE France a few weeks ago I started some rose cuttings in toilet roll tubes as described by you - some roots are already poking out at the bottom! I'm using the method for viburnum and eleagnus semi-hardwood cuttings too. We'll see ...

@FireflyOnTheMoon 2 дня назад

Thanks Jason

@gunmetal2445 11 часов назад

Certain rose nurseries/ breeders promote the same thing here too in Malaysia...although their logic is to prune all buds/ shoots for a few weeks so that the plant can rest and hopefully encourage root growth.

@marciacunningham5877 2 дня назад

I have always had reasonable results with cuttings, however I have one 5/16" cutting that is 16 months old. It has not shown any sign of rooting, but is still green and alive. Very strange. Any comments? Michael

@pansepot1490 2 дня назад

It’s not strange. It happens occasionally. Give up and try again.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 2 дня назад

16 months is an awfully long time for it to sit without any development. Pragmatically, I'd probably call it a loss and start again with fresh cuttings.

@RayIniego День назад

I was wondering why my roses only have a few major branches with rose buds at the tips! Now I know for next spring! Thank you for this! ❤

@suzetteccc День назад

I planted a climbing rose last May and I haven't disbudded and just trained it against the trellis. It hasn't been covered in blooms, but at least I know I got the right rose this time! It's a Kiss Me Kate and is growing and healthy as ever. I haven't fertilized for a month or so, but I assume it will go dormant.

@janeb.6b 2 дня назад

Clear & concise and to the point, as usual, Jason. You could easily teach, but I'm glad you're here to teach us. Thank you!

@barbarawissinger День назад

Is it better for a amateur to let cuttings bud to be sure that their memory of what is what is correct? I don’t want to plant what I think is a ground cover rose to find out that it is a shrub variety.

@Tim.Stotelmeyer 2 дня назад

I disbudded all but one bloom on each of the cuttings that I started summer 2023. I got some good growth from doing so. And to top it off one bloom turned in a hip. It is rare for the mother plant to make hips.

@sislertx 2 дня назад

What..well now its way too late...oh wait....i got big ones from nursery...oh wait...it was for me..oh well...

@lieslfeldman1725 2 дня назад

I'm guilty of not doing this much of the time. I get too eager to see the bloom. Good thing I don't sell my plants. 😊

@pennydominici4465 День назад

Where do you cut the branch? Just back to a five leaf or even further down the branch?

@judymckerrow6720 2 дня назад

Perfect, thank you Jason ! 🌺💚🙃

@geraldinefields1730 2 дня назад

Thank you. That was helpful.

@elisabethshipman9241 2 дня назад

Hi, Jason! I am so glad to see this video posted. I have six new roses from Rogue Valley Roses in Oregon. They are obviously in their first year (they are rose plugs based on the 3x3x5 inch pots they arrived in). No blooms, not defoliated the way Heirloom Roses does, but survived shipping anyway. I'm putting them into 1-gallon pots now and will overwinter them in my 8b zone on the southeast side of my house in a space sheltered from the wind, next to the house under my deck. Can I assume I need to do this same practice next year as they begin to grow into their new pots and continue to develop their root systems? These are very different from my eight Heirloom roses I bought in June that have thrived and bloomed and grown so much even if they were bigger roses and much more mature, so I know I need to treat them differently. As always, I appreciate any advice you have to offer. 🙂

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 2 дня назад

Thanks Elisabeth. I've had the same size liners from Rogue Valley, and yes, I'd usually pinch and disbud to encourage branching for at least the beginning of this coming growing season. After they've built a bit of a framework and you're getting later into summer, I'd consider relaxing and letting them bloom through. It's always a judgement call based on the size/condition of the plants and your own growing climate, but they definitely benefit from the extra branching.

@elaineyakatan2310 2 дня назад

Hi Jason. Did I hear you right? Leave all the dead roes & hips on the plant? I am in NJ USA Zone 6B

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 2 дня назад

Yes, that's what I'll be doing for a bit. September/October are the months where I really want to encourage my roses to slow down and firm up for winter. Because of their reblooming genetics, some roses will grasp at any warm weather or encouragement (pruning, fertilizing, deadheading) to push more fresh growth. So I leave blooms to attempt ripening hips/seed development. I know it can look messy and sometimes you'll even see the roses pushing long stems that seem like they should be lopped off. I leave that kind of cleanup and corrective pruning for late November or December (in my climate) when it's less likely to spur on new growth.

@suemetcalf3878 2 дня назад

Thank you! We have had a cool wet summer.. many roses look wilted and moldy so I have. Cut them.. any advice?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 2 дня назад

Old blooms will definitely begin to rot - but that usually doesn't lead to many problems for the plant itself. In general at this time of the year, I just neglect the roses for a bit - no feeding, pruning, deadheading or anything that would encourage fresh growth. I leave cleanup and corrective pruning (as needed) for the shorter, cooler days of late November/December (in my region) when it's less likely to encourage new shoots.

@mikedan297 2 дня назад

TRUE. This is the difference between commercial growers and home growers. At home, when we see the new bud, we consider it a success and wait for the flowering to manifest.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 2 дня назад

And nothing wrong with that! Enjoy your roses

@WPHWw-km1tk 2 дня назад

4 years ago I took a cutting from a neighbors rose trellis. It has grown well as a young plant in a pot. But the neighbor does not remember the name of the rose. Is it possible to tell if it is climbing type or bush type from its current condition?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 2 дня назад

You can get a good sense of it just by how long it sends new shoots.

@muffininorbit 2 дня назад

So the hip development helps the rest of the plant harden it’s wood?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 2 дня назад

In my view, yes. Leaving the hips on is the opposite of deadheading - which is supposed to speed the rose's return to fresh young growth. Those new shoots are what become most vulnerable to winter damage.

@outcastrc8052 2 дня назад

Excellent information and thank you very much from Newfoundland!!

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 2 дня назад

Good to hear from the other coast!

@outcastrc8052 2 дня назад

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Zone 5a on the north east coast. Roses do very well here and we love to grow and enjoy them. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and wisdom with us!!

@Alejandro_C62 2 дня назад

Is there another video on how to pinch back the roses?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 2 дня назад

It's exactly the same as deadheading, but you just do it at an earlier stage (when the buds are still developing): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MAg538GYoPk.htmlsi=Y7TzzgmMsA_TXNCz

@brendabailey2307 День назад

Hi Jason Can I ask a question please. Can you think of a rose with Gerry in its name ? I’m in the uk. Thank you

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 19 часов назад

I see Helpmefind lists an 'Aunt Gerry', but I suspect availability would be an issue in the UK. With so many named roses introduced over the decades, it's definitely not a sure thing that any given roses is distributed widely over a long period - and so many fall into obscurity. I could guess that you're looking to memorialize a loved one - and in this case, my advice would be to pick a great grower with qualities that remind you in some way (not necessarily in name) of the individual. I've seen people set on a Francis (for instance) pick out Francis E. Lester, and not be dissuaded at all by the largeness of the rose in the small space they're planting. Associations with a particular color can be useful, and still give you flexibility to pick a rose that "fits" the growing situation.

@brendabailey2307 4 часа назад

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you so much. I’ll have a go at getting aunt Gerry if not I’ll get one I think he would like. Many thanks Brenda

@Mindy-s-channel День назад

I’m in mid Missouri. Should I stop deadheading now?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm День назад

IMO yes. Deadheading now, particularly if you have any remaining stretches of warm weather, could result in renewed growth of shoots without much time to harden off.

@Mindy-s-channel День назад

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you

@lisaserrano2485 День назад

Can you recommend winterizing of roses in pots? I heard you need to transplant into ground but hill them in and cover the graft with 6-8 inches of compost/soil?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm День назад

Hi Lisa. It'll depend a lot on your local climate - but if you're expecting deep cold, that method sounds pretty solid. It'd keep the potted rose at a more stable temperature of the deeper soil. In my climate, because we don't expect to go too far below freezing, I'm happy to leave the pots out during the milder stretches, and them move them into the garage (just above freezing) when we expect deep cold.

@Tim.Stotelmeyer День назад

I have 15 roses in pots that are 7 gallons in size that I leave out all winter in zone 8b. Some are approaching 25 years of age. I only worry about ice storms and falling tree branches breaking the roses.

@lisaserrano2485 День назад

I’m in Zone 5B - Ontario. We get pretty cold winters but the last few haven’t been as fierce. We had a decent amount of snow but also periods with thaw and ice.

@tockalot 2 дня назад

So for my first year Heirloom Roses I should be disbuding them?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm 2 дня назад

Well, awkwardly I made this video in the fall. Granted it's more a general topic video, but the timing can matter a bit too. If I wanted to maximize plant growth and health, any disbudding/pinching give maximum benefit early in the season when the plants have growing time. By this stage of the year (depending on where you live winter-wise, and what kind of protection you plan to offer them) I'd generally be saying leave them alone to settle down for the cool season. If they're still small in spring, and you're trying to build them up, disbudding is a good technique for it.

@tockalot День назад

@FraserValleyRoseFarm i live in south Washington so about the same weather as u. I have 3 that are in pots should I bring them in the garage around first frost? Can I get them healthy in the winter so they are ready in spring?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm День назад

I might play it by ear with the forecast. Anything to freezing or slightly below won't bother your roses a bit, and they can just stay outside in a sheltered spot. But when the forecast shows a longer period of deep cold, tuck them into your garage just for that duration.

@tockalot День назад

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank u for your advice 😊 I watch all your videos now that I found a new passion in roses