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800 hour pilot, subjects himself to the flying skills test he took 10 years earlier, makes silly mistakes.
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@AndyWhite
@AndyWhite 5 месяцев назад
Your dedication to sharing what goes wrong as much as what goes right in all of your videos is right up there with the ethos of commercial airline safety culture. It's so great to see it.
@nottoolatetofly371
@nottoolatetofly371 5 месяцев назад
Honestly, why they’re still requiring the use of pen paper and math in the cockpit rather than 2023 technology is beyond me. In the real world NOBODY does it that way anymore. We have multiple backups. Having to be heads down trying to draw lines, do math and find a point on a paper chart (not even discussing the fact that nobody has up to date paper charts anymore), is just increasing risk of the worst dangers. Why not get modern aviation students absolutely slick on modern technology and testing their ability to quickly, accurately and correctly use all available technology.
@CharlieLamdin
@CharlieLamdin 5 месяцев назад
I had to do 3 hours of dead reckoning with an examiner for “rectification training” after my airspace infringement (which didn’t involve any navigation problems, but hey!) and it really brought all that early nav training back. Great video Jon. I really battle to keep up my proficiency with everything else going on in life. Thanks for all the hard work making these videos. That one must have been a big edit! 👍🏻
@janlievaart
@janlievaart 5 месяцев назад
Brilliant video greatly contributing to flight safety. In the pro world we have to do a skills test every 6 months in the form of either an LPC or OPC. In the private world this is different and John really stuck his neck out here and did well. It can always be better which applies to every one! Great stuff!!
@Thinkflite
@Thinkflite 5 месяцев назад
Good friend of mine told me to never go flying without a goal of practicing something... On a A2B flight, lots to learn. Really excellent video and don't knock yourself... for only a few minor bad habbits to settle in after 800 hours, that's pretty robust! How many could say the same about driving a car?!
@ivorevans1795
@ivorevans1795 5 месяцев назад
Well done John. Takes a bunch of very good qualities in a human being to share that sort of thing. What I got from the video is that you have all the skills to fly through a tough checkride, its just proficiency that erodes. We ALL need to work on that. As a well known aviator across the pond reminds us often - currency and proficiency are very much not the same thing.
@PghGameFix
@PghGameFix 5 месяцев назад
I totally understand. I'm starting on my IFR training... and some PPL stuff has slipped away. While I am a safe pilot... I haven't don't "Standard Maneuvers" in a while. My younger cousin is getting his PPL, and he will ask be "Text Book" questions... and I really have to dig to remember some of them. Good vid, and nice flight.
@CJThePilot
@CJThePilot 5 месяцев назад
Good episode John that highlights how easily our skills can fade. I think it's really important we continually practice different things and ensure we have not developed bad habits. Personally I make a real effort to try to construct various general handling exercises for myself whilst en route to practice different things, rather than just flying from A to B. Ironically my next RU-vid upload is of a flight where I do exactly that to maximise the time in the air. I'm sure many of us regularly fly with an instructor in order to keep ourselves current with PFLs etc
@user-zo5bi7kz6g
@user-zo5bi7kz6g 5 месяцев назад
Passed my test a year ago ago at Earle’s colne and without doubt going to have a lesson with my old instructor very good episode
@Volksplane1
@Volksplane1 5 месяцев назад
Your humility makes you a good safe pilot and practiced skills of course with a sprinkle of being a clever person. Wish there were more humbles like you in GA. Top man Top video
@sixtiethofasecond
@sixtiethofasecond 5 месяцев назад
Brave, brave man - well done. The nav bit - well, we only use a map when the satellites are jammed. The PFL, you got down and would have walked away - that was to me the most important bit. My tip though, hold the map up to the window so your periphery eyesight will tell you if you are descending or banking. I'm guilty of left banking if I look down as my left hand is still on the yoke. I'm practicing a PFL next time I'm up. Good to brush up on those touch drills.
@bigcityuk
@bigcityuk 5 месяцев назад
Great video, appreciate you sharing these videos where not every bit of flying is “perfect”- helps us all learn and improve. I’m a recent PPL and find these videos immensely helpful so thanks.
@matthewmoy9760
@matthewmoy9760 5 месяцев назад
What a great exercice. As well as a good proof of humility! Thanks for sharing :)
@marvinsmith4322
@marvinsmith4322 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Jon for yet another open and honest piece. It would be easy for any ‘armchair’ critic to have an opinion on each and everyone’s flying but as you highlight skills fade happens to us all. A timely reminder that practice makes perfect and reliance on modern tech is something more than one or two of us have been guilty of - but only if like you we are honest withourselves!
@ghoflyer
@ghoflyer 5 месяцев назад
Passed 9 months ago and I am for sure rusty on some of this. Patiently awaiting your lee on solent episode
@davidnorman9701
@davidnorman9701 5 месяцев назад
Great video John, really useful reminder to us all to keep skills sharp - I try and have the discipline of doing specific practice flights with a focus on one or two items each time - reality is with pressure of time, weather etc it can often be sometime between these!! Keep the great content coming 👍
@TheFlyingReporter
@TheFlyingReporter 5 месяцев назад
If you're a regular cross country traveller, I don't think it's possible to keep on top of these manouvres/skills. I think you'd have to dedicate specific sessions to do it. And, ideally with an instructor. They can spot your shortcomings, where you cannot.
@QuantatativeStealing
@QuantatativeStealing 5 месяцев назад
Imagine turning off the Sat Nav and giving a modern Driver an A-to-Z to find his/her way to the destination the old fashioned way..AND Drive the Car...most couldn't do it😮 Great Video. It looks daunting to me as a VERY low hours student pilot😂
@TheFlyingReporter
@TheFlyingReporter 5 месяцев назад
Don't be daunted - as you saw, there's a fair amount of discretion allowed, plus your instructor won't put you forward for the test until you're ready.
@QuantatativeStealing
@QuantatativeStealing 5 месяцев назад
@@TheFlyingReporterThank you.. I'm itching to get into the Air and continue the journey..the Weather in the NW has killed every Lesson Booked since August 🙄
@joejdl
@joejdl 5 месяцев назад
Got to do a skills test again to convert my ICAO PPL license, so a timely and helpful video, thanks Jon!
@davelee212
@davelee212 2 месяца назад
Catching up on videos and this is exactly what I needed! I've not flown since early October and, in that time, both my medical and SEP have lapsed. I have my medical next week and doing an LPC with Nigel in a couple of weeks. I think I need to hit those checklists and memorise some procedures and brush up on my nav skills!
@abdulmismail
@abdulmismail 4 месяца назад
I love your honesty, Jon, and for highlighting that someone who has flown hundreds of hours can still get rusty. Watching these videos confirm the necessity to avoid over reliance on SkyDemon. I'm learning a lot of how I should fly - and perhaps mix SkyDemon with dead reckoning in order to avoid getting complacent.
@antjrice1
@antjrice1 5 месяцев назад
Fantastic content for a pre skills test student!
@CaswellGuitar
@CaswellGuitar 5 месяцев назад
Very brave to put yourself in that position John! Great video yet again though with a good message to always test yourself and be aware that nobody is perfect. 👍 Well done!
@coenkuijpers1800
@coenkuijpers1800 5 месяцев назад
During my last IFR renewal I was asked to perform a stall. As I was approaching the stall speed and getting ready to react the plane suddenly pushed down the nose by itself, much to our surprise. Both the examiner and completely forgot about the ESP of the autopilot 😂
@Rodhern
@Rodhern 5 месяцев назад
Brilliant. Turned out to be a more useful exercise than you (or I) would think then. That is funny.
@surideedesigns
@surideedesigns 5 месяцев назад
Love your content John! Don't beat yourself up, most experienced drivers wouldn't pass the driving theory and practical tests again 😂
@TheFlyingReporter
@TheFlyingReporter 5 месяцев назад
I'd agree with you there. Only, risks are higher in the air.
@barrywood5357
@barrywood5357 5 месяцев назад
Nice to see you still got it sir.. the truth is we all have traits that are good bad forgotten or not worried about but will catch you out if you dont practise these every so often crack on
@Steeyuv
@Steeyuv 5 месяцев назад
The nav highlights a chart-reading issue I found on one trip - I am so familiar with that area, I don’t need the chart, which limits the usefulness of the exercise. Practise manual navigation in strange areas! GPS is not infallible, but my chart has never gone blank mid-flight…
@TheLincolnshireFlyer
@TheLincolnshireFlyer 5 месяцев назад
We can all learn from this one Jon 😊
@colinbartram3467
@colinbartram3467 5 месяцев назад
Great video. I'm working on consistency in stalls, steep turns and pfl, before I can take my skills test, and found much useful content here. Thanks!
@ajs1691
@ajs1691 5 месяцев назад
Me too! It is exciting but nerve wracking 😅
@ajs1691
@ajs1691 5 месяцев назад
Super timing! I'm brushing up for my ST, exactly these things 😅
@seanpinnell4806
@seanpinnell4806 5 месяцев назад
This channel is fantastic!
@sonarand
@sonarand 5 месяцев назад
All good as usual, but gear down into a field after engine failure ! Piper Arrow will land gear up with minimal damage [ given that the engine has had it anyway ] and you won't tip over.
@zakdolenc4032
@zakdolenc4032 5 месяцев назад
Amazing video. I have just finished my PPL and i must say this video has still been benefitial to maybe look at some of my flying from a different angle. Thank you :)
@papics
@papics 5 месяцев назад
Good, honest video, thanks for sharing it, there should be more like these in general (not talking about your channel, but in general the GA RU-vid). I fully understand how difficult it is to share mistakes online, I have been doing the same very regularly, and while I am getting quite used to it now, every time I am editing a video that showcases mistakes, I have a difficult feeling in my stomach. :) Still, I always try to share my mistakes in my flying videos, because 1) I am so embarrassed of them, that if I put them in a video, I will never forget them, but also 2) because I have received a lot of positive feedback about sharing mistakes in a world where most people only show their best online. I have always been very good in navigation with a chart during my PPL, but I have also never ever flown without SkyDemon since then (albeit in my case it is just a bit more than a year since my skill test). While I love maps and I understand the whole theory of speed vector triangles and whatnot easily with my astrophysics background, I always hated preparing navigations on the map, simply because it takes so much time. I agree that classical navigation (dead reckoning) is a skill that needs to be taught and learned during the PPL, but I also think flying with SkyDemon should be covered during the training, as there are good and bad practices there too. When I fly with SkyDemon, I still identify ground features regularly to be aware of where I am, I run a timer, and I have the navlog printed from SkyDemon with me (with all the columns necessary to do a proper dead reckoning too) for the completely unlikely case when my 2 SkyDemon equipped devices, my onboard GNS unit, and the GPS in my backup handheld radio fails (and of course paper maps for the route too in the flight bag). You can still fly using the classical acronyms, prepare the Heading-Altitude-Timer for the next turn and make the turn based on the DG and not by looking at the magenta line, and so on. Using both SkyDemon and the VFR map in the proper way is a skill that needs to be learned. Following a planned route with SkyDemon is of course easier, because if you want you can indeed just turn until the magenta line and your projected track aligns even without thinking of any heading values, you could fly like this without displaying ground features and be completely oblivious to where you are, but of course that should not be the case. When people plan a route with SkyDemon you still need to be aware of all the airspaces, rules and regulations, performance (make sure your aircraft profile is actually adjusted for your actual airplane, especially for the weight and balance, etc.), etc. But there is no doubt that when used correctly, SkyDemon is an amazing tool that increases pilot awareness (location, airspace both horizontally and vertically), decreases workload (visualisation of arrival aerodrome circuit, noise abatement areas, loading in charts, potentially display some of the traffic, etc.), and as such has the potential to contribute to a safer flight. The problem is that when used incorrectly, it can have the opposite effect: one might tend to only look at the map instead of scanning outside (which is a very big no for VFR pilots), or one might be tempted to keep doing stuff on the iPad instead of looking outside, etc. It can be a distraction when not used correctly. Since we know that basically everybody is using SkyDemon, maybe the good practices of flying with SkyDemon should be part of the PPL training. For dead reckoning and SkyDemon I always come with the example of learning mathematics: in school we start be understanding the logics, then we learn the most basic tools to make calculations following those logics (arithmetics with pen and paper), but then when we have proven that we understand the logics and we can make these calculations using the basic tools, we are all allowed to move on to making calculations with a calculator or a computer. I have an astrophysics degree, but I would really not want to start making a float division with pen and paper again, and honestly, I am not sure I could at this point. But realistically speaking, why should I?... All this "rant" is of course only about SkyDemon, and I agree that basic flying skills such as emergencies and stall recoveries should be practiced regularly, as they are safety nets in critical life and death situations.
@utah20gflyer76
@utah20gflyer76 5 месяцев назад
With the limited amount of training time it seems like a better use of that time to train with the airplane with the equipment you normally use. I don’t even carry a paper chart with me anymore. What good is it going to do me to practice with one? I could know my GPS navigator better though and that’s being used every flight.
@blacknenesse7501
@blacknenesse7501 5 месяцев назад
Another great video John! Thank you so much! Flying and verbalizing actions, is not natural. Well done for passing this test. You do push yourself hard, you just show us the way, the right airway ;-) Merci beaucoup Pilote!
@DanSmithBK
@DanSmithBK 5 месяцев назад
Great video Jon, and it makes me wonder why flying schools don’t offer this to seasoned pilots. I think it would be a great investment of time and money, although I’ll stick to SD, thanks ;-)
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 5 месяцев назад
Do they not offer it? I suspect you would have to do it with an instructor rather than an examiner if you aren't internet famous, but that shouldn't make much difference. I can't see why an instructor would refuse to do a mock test with you if you asked.
@QBziZ
@QBziZ 5 месяцев назад
Good old navigation is well and all, but looking at your lap this much in a possibly busy airspace cannot be deemed safer than glancing towards a panel presenting all the information in one space.
@kevchilton908
@kevchilton908 5 месяцев назад
Not a bad effort at all, Jon, well done! Plus, it made for a very entertaining and informative video 👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@mirkoramphul5898
@mirkoramphul5898 5 месяцев назад
This is amazing about to do some notes
@deanharding740
@deanharding740 5 месяцев назад
Great video John 👌🏻
@fishhisy
@fishhisy 5 месяцев назад
You should invest in a pivot case. A much cleaner ipad mounting system.
@leehewitt9559
@leehewitt9559 5 месяцев назад
Excellent Jon. 👌
@deandmb5201
@deandmb5201 5 месяцев назад
Great video Jon and very helpful
@andycampbell5491
@andycampbell5491 5 месяцев назад
If your RT wasn’t up to scratch, there’s not much hope for the rest of us. I guess if we didn’t have SkyDemon and onboard moving map displays, most would likely fail a skills test. However, our SA because of this equipment is far better for it and dare I say safer too. Fly regularly, train often. Another great warts and all video.
@TheFlyingReporter
@TheFlyingReporter 5 месяцев назад
Interesting pilot briefing incoming about electronic conspicuity etc...
@patrickshea-simonds5827
@patrickshea-simonds5827 5 месяцев назад
Another great video and a really useful reminder of the skills to maintain - many thanks
@jeremykemp3782
@jeremykemp3782 5 месяцев назад
Well done John
@thisandthat871
@thisandthat871 5 месяцев назад
A really Interesting video Good to go back to basics once in a while
@franknutt1876
@franknutt1876 5 месяцев назад
You make great videos!
@jp4163
@jp4163 5 месяцев назад
John i see you have your automatic landing gear extension disabled on your arrow like me!! LOL.
@TheFlyingReporter
@TheFlyingReporter 5 месяцев назад
Definitely for stalls/PFLs and glide approaches.
@evanscm3
@evanscm3 5 месяцев назад
interesting video. I suppose we all form our own habits over time which diverge from those as taught in the syllabus - relying on moving maps etc. Always good to brush up on the general handling side although I do hate PfLs personally. Navigating by DR is almost certainly a lost art to some/most of us (myself included!) - I always carry a plog and a marked chart but am definitely guilty of relying on a GPS and the ipad!
@bobcomm8070
@bobcomm8070 5 месяцев назад
Great video Jon, I had to do a Biannual a few weeks ago, and we did stalls, and mainly because we try to stay away from stalls if possible, i'd forgotten the correct procedure, I did OK but it was good to be told how to do it properly again. We also did recovery from Spiral Dive, which was also interesting to say the least!
@TheFlyingReporter
@TheFlyingReporter 5 месяцев назад
Remembering the correct order in a spiral dive isn't intuitive eh.
@davidwhite8633
@davidwhite8633 5 месяцев назад
@@TheFlyingReporterWell, as the wings are leveled, the a/c will automatically develop a powerful upward pitching moment depending on the A/S at the time anyway, since the a/c is speed stable so if the maneuver was entered at cruise power and trim -- there you go !
@theflyingfool
@theflyingfool 5 месяцев назад
Oh... this is all so familiar LOL! I have to say I feel very sympathetic to your pain during that mock GFT. One thing I would say is that I have a rigid schedule of doing the general handling maneouvres in sequence, one type per flight, and I try to do a PFL en route on every XC flight I do as well. Even though I plan every XC using the map & whizzwheel I do tend to rely a bit too much on Skydemon during flight. Every day's a school day isn't it :D
@TheFlyingReporter
@TheFlyingReporter 5 месяцев назад
Well, I'm impressed that you're this discinplined.
@theflyingfool
@theflyingfool 5 месяцев назад
@@TheFlyingReporter ta Jon! It doesn't take much time and it keeps me on top of them. I record them in my log book so I can see which one is due...
@darthstemcell
@darthstemcell 5 месяцев назад
Awesome
@robertmailer4978
@robertmailer4978 5 месяцев назад
Very good Jon, have about the same hour, alway sure bi annual check in plenty of time for that very reason 🤣🤣🤣
@Rodhern
@Rodhern 5 месяцев назад
Magnificent episode! Out of weird curiosity, why is Nigel so concerned with the power and pitch attitude sequencing during stall exercises? At 18:28 you unload the aircraft G-force just before applying power. What is to be gained by delaying the (deliberate but not rushed) power increase?
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 5 месяцев назад
As Jon says in the video, you don't want to get an uncommanded yaw from the p-factor by adding power while still in a stall.
@Rodhern
@Rodhern 5 месяцев назад
@@thomasdalton1508 Thanks.
@Robinbamv
@Robinbamv 5 месяцев назад
Can someone please explain why the examiner said the prop pitch should be pulled back during the forced landing ? I am at a bit of a loss as to why you should spend time on this while in such a high pressure situation.
@TheFlyingReporter
@TheFlyingReporter 5 месяцев назад
If there’s oil pressure and you pull the prop to coarse you will have less drag and more glide range. Whether it would work with a complete engine failure- not sure as oil pressure would quickly fall causing the prop to go back to fine.
@Robinbamv
@Robinbamv 5 месяцев назад
@@TheFlyingReporter I thought that might be the reasoning but at the RPM during an engine failure the CSU is likely to be below its controlling range. I would expect the RPM of a failed engine to be in the 11-1300 range. Next time you get into your aircraft set the RPM to around 1200 and see if the blue lever has any effect, my guess is the prop will stay firmly on the fine pitch stop.
@farmer6861
@farmer6861 5 месяцев назад
I think there’s a difference between passing a test and learning to fly. What’s scary is the number of middle aged men flying who are put off notifying the CAA of a new medical condition for fear of the consequences and I include instructors who obviously need to pay the bills! You are clearly a self-improver probably operating to airline competency, and are candid about any medical conditions. As with drivers on our roads, there are undoubtedly PPLs who have the hours but don’t recognise in themselves when it’s time to hand your licence back. Anyway, another thought provoking video on what for many will make for uncomfortable viewing! 👏
@classicraceruk1337
@classicraceruk1337 5 месяцев назад
Instructors would find it very hard to hide medical conditions. Their medicals are a minimum Class 2 and that would pick most medical conditions. If these instructors are commercial pilots as well they would need a Class 1, that to my cost I know is a very different beast. I believe John had a warning from his AME and had to take steps to change things. Comparing the requirements for pilots and cars is not useful.
@josephgunnett7715
@josephgunnett7715 5 месяцев назад
Are we not all trying to improve by definition, I detest the term self improver,it's a label.Self sponsored reflects the truth.
@fillywinks
@fillywinks 5 месяцев назад
Nicely done. You're being way to harsh on yourself IMHO
@petermartin9494
@petermartin9494 5 месяцев назад
It makes me a bit sad to see how hoplessly outdated these aircraft procedures are. This is probably the way things were done in the 1950s.
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 5 месяцев назад
Yes, they should really be testing your ability to fly using digital aids, since that is what you will actually be doing once you get your license. They added satnav to the driving test years ago.
@utah20gflyer76
@utah20gflyer76 5 месяцев назад
I’m sure doctors are still tested on defunct procedures and computer programmers are tested on old code that no one uses any more, 😆
@davidwhite8633
@davidwhite8633 5 месяцев назад
Well, what do you do if you want, or have to , fly a 50s ship without all the modern gew-gaws on it. Your PPL presumably says you can fly all SE ships under such and such a weight ; should it be limited to only those that have all the modern equipment ?
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 5 месяцев назад
@@davidwhite8633 The modern equipment in question is a tablet that you bring with you. The aircraft type is irrelevant.
@davidwhite8633
@davidwhite8633 5 месяцев назад
@@thomasdalton1508 Nothing to do with Glass vs Steam instrument panels then ? Just curious .
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