Notes (Includes Tentative Light Cone Tier List): - HuoHuo can effectively replace a ER Link Rope so that you can index into more ATK% - ER vs ATK (Assuming Dr. Ratio has 8 turns and 0 CRIT RAW DPS Comparison): 2500 vs 2900 ATK (Rough approximation) ER Rope: - 8 skills + 8 skill follow-ups: 8x1.5x2500 + 8x2.7x2500 = 84000 - 2 ultimates: 2x2.4x2500 = 12000 - 4 ultimate follow-ups: 4x2.7x2500 = 27000 - Total: 123000 ATK Rope: - 8 skills + 8 skill follow-ups: 8x1.5x2900 + 8x2.7x2900 = 97440 - 2 ultimates: 2x2.4x2900 = 13920 - 2 ultimate follow-ups: 2x2.7x2900 = 15660 - Total: 127020 As you can see, this damage is comparable when no other sources of ATK% is present. ATK% Rope will be more effective in earlier turns/cycles (MOC gives half energy 70+35+35 = 140 Energy) while an ER Rope will benefit from longer cycles and the existence of other sources of ATK%. - There are Leaks/Rumors regarding a 4-piece set coming soon (maybe next patch) for Dr. Ratio. I am going to pre-build him for the first half of MoC Floor 12, but if you have already cleared MoC Floor 12, you can reasonably wait for his new set before farming for him. We still don't know the damage comparisons for his new relic set yet (tentative numbers) Tentative Light Cone Tier List: 1. S1 Baptism (Signature) 2. S1 Worrisome, Blissful 3. S5 Stellar Sea / S1 Sleep Like the Dead (depends on Crit Rate) 4. S1 Swordplay 5. S1 Only Silence Remains
@@elhant4994 This is because Energy Regeneration generates enough Energy to get your ultimate one full turn faster, resulting in there being ample time to use his two additional follow-ups, while his 8 turn rotation would have just used his ultimate on the 8th turn (Assuming you start with 0 energy in this case). 7 turns and 6 turns also theoretically benefit ER because an ATK% build wouldn't have even casted a second ult, but we also have to account for the fact that outside sources of ATK% will benefit ER more, which would make the frequent ults more valuable.
i would like to note that hanya doesn't have any debuffs, the burden state she gives enemies is under other effects, not under debuffs so it won't count
I liked this guide video, but i do have a question, I have a no wish account and am looking for a team to use dr. ratio in, the best one i can come up with is Ratio, march, pela, and serval, so i can reliably have 3-4 debuffs on the enemy and still be relatively skill point efficient. Double dps is the only realistic comp I see due to the other team most likely being a hyper arry or maybe Sushang and phys trailblazer for a phys break team depending on enemies. I also prefarmed for ratio and have spent the past 3 weeks or so farming for him specifically and have my most well built set for him but im considering using some pieces on other characters and farming his leaked set for him when it comes out. Is it worth it or more of a thing to do when i have more fully built characters? Any help is greatly appreciated and thank you for the guide Trailblazer!
Also, should I consider using yukong with him even if it means I don't have 3 debuffs on him? My yukong needs a lot of work but her talents are almost max so speed tuning her would be all I need to do. One last thing, on my main account I have a silver wolf and every harmony character, so my main question is would it be better for a less skill point efficient team Ratio, SW, Bronya, and sustain like Huo Huo/Fu Xuan or something like Ratio, Pela (4 piece wind for the extra SP), Yukong/Bronya, and sustain? Maybe I should just slot in hanya at the more skill point negative team, but I'm not exactly sure (would Ruan mei be a good character? I have her but the break centered kit seems less synergistic with any imaginary DPS besides sustain welt which is already rather niche). I could figure this out on my own eventually so no pressure to reply
Why didn't you talk about his A6 major trace? It does seem like you can easily achieve 3 debuffs with many different teammates but this trace does say it caps out at 5 debuffs for 50% dmg (instead of 30% for 3 debuffs for 100% followup chance) which makes me think that Silver Wolf will be one of the better teammates for him as of now
If i’m not wrong i read somewhere from leaks that there would b new relics set for him and ruan mei. Ome being increased dmg based on the numbers of debuffs and one being another break effect set So imma wait for the new set to come out
Ruan Mei can fit well in a duo DPS comp with Dr. Ratio and Topaz and Welt can provide imprisonment such that a 4-piece Wastelander set can provide Crit DMG more often. In addition, they both have debuffs that can contribute to Dr. Ratio's DPS, so they can certainly fit with Dr. Ratio in some team comps.
Bronya isn't optimal with him bc her 1 turn DMG buff will not apply to his out-of-turn FUAs. Also the fact March as a Preservation unit with access to Universal Market LC and her Ultimate freeze is a better sustain option. The two debuffs free up the slots for different supports that increase damage or counter the enemies more.
Hey! I just checked over footage while using Dr. Ratio and Bronya together and while this is good intuition, Bronya's skill actually lasts on Dr. Ratio during his follow-up attacks after he uses his skill. Her skill won't apply to the follow ups that occur from his ultimate, of course, but this is still fine in terms of what Bronya is able to contribute with her skill. (This may change by the time Dr. Ratio is released) March 7th or Gepard with Universal Market and their freezes can be an interesting source of debuffs if you're able to solo sustain your team with them. This is a good point!
hi i am a long time dr ratio wanter, about the build, i think it might be better to put him on a crit rate body piece, since if you are using the salsotto set you would need to get him to 50% crit rate plus his signature gives him crit damage, and its usually an overall damage boost since you would crit more, and if your relics on him do all have very high crit rate rolls the crit damage body piece argument would be valid, id recommend 50% crit rate on him to people trying to go for consistent damage on him. nice video !
His traces gives 12% Crit rate and Summation at max stacks of 6 gives another 15% so I feel crit rate body will be an overkill. salsotto gives another 8%
e6 in the night, sushang imo is on far with e0sI seele. my e5 sushang is out preforming my Seele this moc, while using Seele's relics 4pc quantum ( The only diff is Sushang has a be rope and atk orb on the Talia set) hybrid be sushang is still really good into physical moc floors.
@@sleep_something_something Not really. He definitely could use 30% atk over 12% (conditional 24%) crit dmg since his own kit already gave him a lot of crit dmg
@@sleep_something_somethingNah dude he wouldn't be able to max it out 100% of the time. His own debuff requires him to have EHR to apply it, I don't think it would be reliable. 2 pc would be great tho!
