@@douan6363 least conclusion jumping edgy rick stan Also if you want actual evidence of all of this being false, @ me in my discord and ill send you it.
So one thing I have been thinking about is that the Random Character may be the creator of the Codex Umbra, with the tophat and gloves hinting at him potentionally being a magician and his coat/cape being styled like the Nightmare throne
To be clear, what the thunderbirds do to call the lightning is visually reminiscent of the idea that if you could create an ion imbalance in clouds you could artificially induce lightning. Scientists have done stuff like this in the real world with some kinds of lasers and (more commonly) just firing rockets attached to electrically charged cables into the clouds directly. The thunderbirds could very well be doing that instead of shooting the lightning themselves as you describe. Very interesting theory nonetheless, and a very well made video!
Funfact: The Lord of the Flies is based on a story where a group of boys were stranded on a real island. But they didn't turn wild and didn't go on to kill each other.
Yeah, it's a satire on the book treasure Island (along with other classics with similar settings) The satire comes from how the British schoolboys from treasure island were depicted as "civilised" as opposed to the "savage" natives, while LOTF depicts them as the savages
First about when the pigs were born : i think it's after the ancients but maybe Maxwell created the pig society in the hamlet after he came to the Constant. Since Maxwell spent a looong time in it, it's likely possible. We know pigs in the hamlet can use magic but they don't abuse it like the ancients (maybe they know something). Maybe during the war, the king deserted bringing his followers with him in the main land and shutting the "gates?" the pigs may have made. By this logic, some pigs after that became unloyal toward the king and were thrown in the ocean (becoming the wildbore and hardly living due to be alone). In the wilderness of the mainland, the king and his followers went a bit backwards mentally but still a minimum civilized. The pigs heads, they activate during the full moon, during the time "Alter" is at full power on the mainland. We know his power can revive things like hounds and pengulls so the activation of the head is explained (they are literally resurrected zombie pigmen heads). The mysterious man theory is interesting. An unknown hero hiding in the constant, forgotten but knowing a lot
I think you put a lot of pieces of a puzzle together, except you are trying to put together 2 different sets of puzzles. Maybe even three. I definitely question the involvement of Birds in this theory, but I would like to know your Bird theory. Most of the birds in the Constant are large to gigantic, with the exception of few that have presumably entered from the other world, like the Crows and Wes. As a Woodie main, I know these damn birds are up to something.
What if Pugna became more 'boarlike' after he met with the pigs? Like you said, a pig can become a boar in the right circumstances, so what if the Random Character photo was before, and Pugna now is the 'after'?
@@cactusgamingyt9960I mean, woodie’s moose form is much larger than his human form. It’s possible this transformation happened over a longer period of time to pugna.
The closest match we have to the identity of the Mystery Man might actually be an unimplemented character, Wallace. Comparing his portrait on the DS wiki to the Random Character portrait in-game, his beard fits the profile, and what little there is of his clothes seem to line up too. More than that, one of the developers has (supposedly) implied that he is Scottish, and the Mystery Man is clearly wearing a kilt and sporran.
I noticed the random player's icon wears a Scottish Kilt. Given the fact that there is only one species that have Scottish origins (the McTusk's) could it be that they have some connection to each other? Edit: In addition, its not really confirmed but Webber could be Scottish (or of Scottish roots) given the fact that when inspecting the Tam O' Shanter he says it reminds him of his grandpa. Outstretched i know but could all those three characters have some connection?
This came out before the Wilson update, but I think we can safely say that the Daywalker / Nightmare werepig is Wilbas father,probably. Great video as always
I wonder if the mystery character after successfully starting the apporcalypse became the ancient herald, but when the apporcalypse ended he was trapped. Maybe he was sent by Them in order to corrupt the pigs? I also feel like if you are right about the pigs curse being caused by the apporcalypse, maybe the swamp pigs were cursed pigs sent by the queen in search for a cure and the rest of the cursed pigs went with Pugna to find and defeat Them. Also maybe the apporcalypse made it so any future pigs were cursed, so the hamlet pigs besides Wilba were born before the apporcalypse and stayed alive with the fountain of youth(perhaps that’s why they are taller?) and the pigs in the rest of the constant (besides pig king) were younger and born after?
That's an interesting theory but is Hamlet really happening in the Sky? Because how would you be able to move to another island by travelling trought ruins, what if Hamlet was taking place in a chain of mountain ? Edit : to apply my theory let's take the BFB island, it's in a rock biome wich could mean than the BFB is on a really high mountain (wich Can also be in a implicit way be seen on how you leave the said "island") and some species of large bird prefer to put their nest in some really high place and you cant tell the Y axe in Hamlet so this is my theory.
The bit at the end with silver oincs actually reinforces this theory. If the BFB went and got silver from the swamp pigs, then perhaps Hamlet's pig faction is fully immune to lycanthropy BECAUSE of the silver oincs! This then gives a reason for Hamlet's pigs to use the coins to trade and why they are so greedy. With enough 10 piece oincs, you can invalidate the werepig effect. The centapiece oincs are worth more because they are fully refined silver, and one is able to fully negate the effect if worn! The reason Wilba is not affected by this is because silver must be worn. He necklace is actually a refined centapiece made to have the least amount of sanity stress on the queen's daughter. In fact, this implies that the other pigs need much more silver than the queen/Wilba, and that is why they are so focused on making money, as the more silver you have, the less sanity drain you have as a pig during the full moon when negating the lycanthropy. The queen has a sort of silver ring on her dress, and with that much silver, there is little to no sanity drain. Thief pigs want silver so they don't go crazy during a full moon, but there is not enough silver brought from the gorge to go around, hence it becoming a currency, simply because it is invaluable and there is no way to get more. TL;dr The more oincs a pigman has, the less sanity drain they have when a full moon comes by. That is why the Pigmen in Hamlet trade silver for services and items, and always want more of it, due to it being in limited supply and in huge demand. Thanks for coming to my TED talk!
Something one has to wonder about is WHY do the Pigs of Hamlet not have Werepigism but the mainland ones and Wilba do? My thoughts are that either those who get infected with Werepigism are exiled from Hamlet and many of the pigs on the surface world are those or descendants. How is Werepigism caught? Who knows but I think it might have relations to the habitual consumption of monster meat, something the greedy pigs of Hamlet refrain from eating. So it's likely Wilba's father was a decendant of one of these exiles who perhaps managed to return to Hamlet-which might be where the silly string in the Royal Gallery originates from. Or maybe he somehow contracted Werepigism and used the Amulet to hide it but with the birth of his daughter only one of them would be able to wear it, giving it to her, he could no longer live in Hamlet. As for the Pig King? I think he might be from Hamlet and for some reason or another came to the mainland; he's also referred to by Wilba as the "Trader King" and perhaps he has means to sending things back and forth from Hamlet, hence his use for the trinkets as well as his supply of gold-he also refuses to take monster meat as legal tender (an education common in Hamlet), which is perhaps why he isn't infected with Werepigism. The long term or even generational effects of Werepigism is mysterious too, it does seem that the pigs infected with it are more subnormal than their "pure" counterparts: Whether this is cause or effect isn't certain: Maybe the lower caste of pigs simply have Werepigism but that feels too shallow of a conclusion. Regardless those with Werepigism don't seem to produce as advanced socities or even proper speech like those in Hamlet, even Wilba's quite derpy despite her Royal upbringing. Personally I do enjoy the idea that Wilba's father isn't around because he had to give her the Silver Amulet in order for her to keep her Werepigism under control and thus not be exiled from Hamlet
I had to do a double take when you brought up Curio Collector. I just made a lore video about him and you didn't know about my process so it was just surprising we made two videos about him on the same day.
@@minespatch perhaps… an examination of deerclops along with the no eyed deer? Deeclops seems like it would be one of Maxwells first major creations since it’s always had the lowest HP of any seasonal boss, it’s even similar to the tall birds for being a passive mob you normally see, then suddenly being weird and stronger.
Not only do i subscribe to this theory but now your channel as well. Great video, never knew the narrative importance of Lord Of The Files and Shakespeare narratively had on Don't Starve but it makes sense and fits.
Yeaaah.... That Lord of the fruitflies part seems like kind of a stretch to me. I mean, yeah, it does have a similar colour palette to the Queen, but, other than that, it doesn't look like her at all. It just looks like a weird ass fly to me.
I openly believe that the enticing thing about Don't Starve is the illusion of a story, which itself doesn't actually exist... Much like a staged play, the constant comes up with whatever backstory it wants for each world. To such an extent where even the real world as we know it is questionable. But in case I'm wrong, you're going pretty well with this...
I believe that the Pig King is 100% Wilba's father. The argument that he does not turn can be explained pretty easily. He is surrounded by obelisks, these are clearly a conduit for Nightmare energy....when they activate you can clearly see shadows going into them as they go up. He likely is able to counter the curse by use of these draining the dark magic that turns him into a werepig....similar to how Wilba can wear a necklace that stops her from transforming from shadow energy. The argument that the civilized pigs do not turn can be explained as well, the Pig King is very likely to be the prime culprit behind whatever is happening to the pigs in the first place....none of the civilized pigs took part in it, and therefore do not share the same curse as him. He was even exiled from his land for a crime he committed. The pigs in the constant are likely his direct descendants, so they share his curse as well and take on his more barbaric features as they aren't in a proper place to be educated like the Hamlet pigs are. The identity of the creators of the robots is, in my opinion, the DST crews efforts combined, at a different point in time. I don't think they had anything to do with the Mant war at all, their true purpose was to create an ultimate weapon to defeat Them. The robots are actually able to do damage to nightmare creatures and will aggressively seek them out if they're nearby, and Hamlet has an apocalypse that is prophesized to occur where a powerful herald of darkness covers the land in eternal darkness, when this happens, the machines power up on their own...as if they are specifically designed to do battle when this happens. Using the power of the fountain of youth, the player can finish the ultimate and true end-game of the creators...by creating a literal mecha-suit the player can wear that allows them to punch the shit out of nightmare creatures, see in the dark...clearly being shaped in the form of a human. When examined, the part of the ancient artifact players can create often has the characters quoting on it's ''arcane'' nature, they say Arcane quite frequently....and what did the DST crew recently uncover in the ruins? They got pieces of arcane knowledge poured into their heads. There are many hints that an unknown force is aiding the Singleplayer experience....ever wonder why when you defeat the Sealnado in Shipwrecked, it's not hostile? Because it's a magical creature, with a magical item in it's organs that makes a powerful weather-controlling device. The real boss is the device that captured it, a device which steals everything in the area that's on the ground. When Wagstaff examines the iron turbines(the item that captured it) he will say ''Made of iron, is there even iron in this world?''. This is also why killing the seal immediately sicks Krampus on you, it was never hostile towards you in the first place....and if you walk away without killing it and then come back, something DOES kill it and leaves the magic-seal item on the ground for you to pick up. Someone, or something, is traveling across the various worlds in the game and aiding you. You can take this a step further, DST introduced the character Wanda, who literally time-travels and is being hunted by the shadows. Her examination quotes on various characters seems to imply she has been with the characters for a long time, commenting on things they've done throughout various times. It could be her. I don't think the Mants play into any significant lore at all. Don't Starve in its original context was a commentary on Western Colonialism, every character is an immigrant to the constant and is forced to do terrible things...like killing sentient-named pigs for survival, a land full of native cannibals(including the pigs). An island where an ancient force of nightmarish conquistadors tricks the native ancients by giving them drugs (nightmare fuel) and then absorbing their culture and land as they destroy themselves on the addiction. This commentary is also for Hamlet, because the story had not been rewritten to distance itself from those concepts when the game turned to DST. That's why they were originally going to add Warbucks, a stereotypical colonist who uses a gun, loves money, is a picky eater and refuses to eat raw foods like a savage. The mants are the stereotypical image of a native, warlike, species frustrated at having their lands invaded by a foreign colonist presence and bide their time to raid and attack the land they believe belongs to them. Pugna, and his faction of pigs, may originate from Shipwrecked. The Dark Sword, which looks like a pirate-scimitar in nature, has the exact same stats of the Cutlass you can make in Shipwrecked, many of the shadow items the player could originally make in Don't Starve seem sea-based and pirate-like in nature, this is even more important when you look at Woodlegs, a pirate who when examining nearly every ''shadow'' item will often speak very positively of them unlike other characters. He was originally going to be ''cursed'' to turn into a skeleton but the developers couldn't manage to make it work in coding but his natural affinity to dark items shouldn't be overlooked. You know what else shouldn't be overlooked? The Forge is fiery and volcanic in nature, kind of like the volcano in Shipwrecked? This is already turning out to be a massive wall of text, there's a lot more hints to this that I can point out, but my current theory is that Shipwrecked was in a time before Maxwell's time in the constant, this is where Pugna may have resided. It was ''blessed'' by the nightmare creatures the same as the constant was, and destroyed. The Shadows then absorbed the fruits of Shipwrecked's culture and likeness into it's growing expanse of power, and then abandoned it, where it moved to the constant(and other places). The current cast of the DST crew are being subtely groomed into being the champions for a final, upcoming war with the shadows and at the end of the story in DST will likely team up with their various backgrounds in building and culture and ancient knowledge to build the robots that will be the soldiers. Something will happen that turns Wilson into the ancient herald(notice it's hair), his current rework gave him a passive to take less damage from nightmare creatures and deal more to lunar creatures, and the current playable Hamlet will be a future-version of whatever happens after the war, with our current Wilson from Singleplayer still new on his journey being none the wiser that he himself was a major player in its current state, in a different timeline.
9:49 I would like to put out the fact that that is not can’t be Wilson or yellows, but your reason is off because the fact that when they die, they canonically come back in a different place in the constant
Also, there is a Lord of the Flies character called Percival (which is Wilsons middle name) There are quite a few names that are in both such as Robert (Wagstaff) and Jack (Maxwells brother) Pericival just stuck out for he because its quite an unusual name
My idea of the iron hulk that a hell of a long time before the actual pigs managed to get to this level there were some sort of precursors, like pigs but with an hell of a tecnology, then when the lobsters came the precursors crafter the iron hulks to fight em, cuz you can see that the tecnology and style is similar to the forge style, similar materials, made to fight ect, then somehow the precursors died, and the hulks where deactivated, but not destroyed, also i have an idea to why the forge pigs are so feral (?): they were positioned there during the war to defend the iron hulks production, but after the precursors death they devolved so much until they knew just the basic thing they were sended there for: defend and war, thats why they are so feral
A recommendation again for the music in these, it should be about a third as loud as your voice instead of almost on par, aside from that great video, keep up the good work.
I have a small theory on why the mant workers don’t immediately kill you if you wear a mant suit and mask, they are scared into submission, they see right through it, they just don’t have the strength to attack and kill someone doing that, hence why the guards do immediately go right after you, or the guards are motivated by revenge for the death of the mant you killed wearing that
I've got a pretty big counter to a fair amount of this theory. Horror hounds, moonrock pengulls and shattered spiders all exist in DST, countering the theory that the mants are the primary cause of the lycanthropy as they don't exist in DST.
3:15 the lower left corner hieroglyphic for Staff, it closely resembles the Chinese character for wood (木). Not sure if there’s more interpretation to gain from that
the bird thing might be wrong since maxwell says he doesnt know how ravens got to the constant and we found out the birds came from when wes went into the constant
Also, the pug who trades hats named Alice is not a joke by Klei. It's Alice from the Wonderland. Which obviously means the constant is in the wonderland since there is no other explanation of course
The Mayan Calandar is a big stone circle that doesn’t move, the Aporkalypse Calendar is more like a bomb with a countdown. A calendar tells you what day something will occur, and those dates are set in stone. The Aporkalypse Calendar seems to actually CAUSE the Aporkalypse, since you can choose when to trigger the Aporkalypse. For example, you could make a calendar to predict when all the Full Moons in the game will occur, but you can’t make a calendar to predict when the Moon Staff Event will occur because it’s an event that requires “man” made structures. You can’t “predict”when you, the player, will put the staff in the moon shrine, but you CAN put it off by deciding to do it later in the same way you can postpone the Aporkalypse So I guess the question is: Who benefits from the Aporkalypse?
I didn't say crows. I just said sentient birds in general. However it could techniquely work with crows seeing as to how the constants way of time is kind of all over the place. I was simply using corvus as an example
All though both the pig societies are are under a monarchy system, the pigs in Hamlet are economically Capitalist whereas the pigs in Vanilla/RoG are seemingly Communist. At first I thought the pig king's society was just more primitive but if they really left because they didn't like how things were run then it is likely that they prefer a society where nobody owns anything and are "happy" and "equal". Perhaps they are starving like people living under communism and that is why they will gladly fight to the death for some raw monster meat, meanwhile the pig king doesn't care at all what happens to the people he is responsible for so long as he owns everything and can spend all of his wealth on worthless trinkets.
The Black Hand references here are great. I remember gasping bc of course i know the deets on TBH and there's a great vid on The Great War that has a lot of that
idk if anyone mentioned this but when Warbucks (deleted now haracter from hamlet beta) examines the severed pig head on a stick he says ,,It appears there are warring societies here''
I don't mean to be nitpicky, but it's implied that Krampus, Klaus, and Wortox are imps, not demons. Wortox even says Klaus and him are of the same kin, I'm pretty sure. However, there is a REAL demon called by name right out of Wortox's mouth... the fuelweaver.
Where are you all finding all of this animation and backstory? My version of the game has none of that. No tutorial, no cut scenes, no explanation for anything. I don't even know why I would want to build many of the items, because the game doesn't explain how to use them.
i don know entirely what im talking about but... what if the ancient herald is the random character? er- like, wilbas father and whatnot? i mean, it would probably be less weird than a human, and it would explain the knowledge of how to make these things and the bad intentions that it appears to have had
Well theres a new candidate for Wilba's father, the new boss in DST, its clearly a werepig that has been much more darkened then normal, and its chained, clearly indicating that something did defeat and was able to contain it, not kill it though. Why? Pugna may have defeated it in his youth, saving the pigs (which is why he became a respected member to them) but due to it being Wilba's father, Pugna doesn't seem like a terrible person, so out of empathy he instead chained up the beast, hell maybe some pigs still fear it can come again, and leave the heads around as offering to hopefully ease it, the thing is a giant werepig that can clearly rip people into shreds and destroy towns
