I’m 20 years old and I will listen to Mike Joy and Dale Jr and any older gentleman related to racing before I listen to anyone close to my generation. They’ve watched the sport become what it has become and we don’t have the older generation showing these young kids the etiquette of racing. NASCAR especially created their own problem by not having the young guns race against the veterans because they’re sometimes overly aggressive and then throw hissy fits when it’s thrown right back on them. I’m glad someone called them out because it’s about time that someone said something.
Rubbing has always been racing. Part of the issue is non of the new gen is man enough to take out a top guy who is hated. They need controversy to make it more enjoyable. It's so boring now and strategy is thrown out the window with segments.
Mike Joy is the last of the old school announcers. I once saw him in person and his voice is the same. But he really is the last of the real race announcers...Jr is coming up and Burton is great. Gordon is good and actually Waltrip was a good. Kevin Harvick still helps build his cars. But Dirty Mo...great interviews. And Noah is like a young Harvick, he needs an attitude check. "But someone believed in them." and Mike Joy is awesome. The gray he has matches my gray and I've been listening to him for 30 years. I wished Dr. Punch was still here.
Mike is by far the best NASCAR commentator around today. Dale is up there with Mike, the best NASCAR commentating ever was Mike Joy, Ned Jarrett and Buddy Baker on CBS in the 90s. Cant forget the great Ken Squier
@@packisbetter90 you are right. mike joy is throw back. he is the real deal and he and appreciates the history of the sport. he is a good one. i wish there were more like him.
Don't forget the late Chris Economaki who covered tons of races in the 60's, 70's and 80's. Mike is also from back in the old days and I agree is he the best today.
It's always been the case that to be a success in racing required sacrifice by a hungry, determined driver willing to spend his time, money and effort right up to the point of reaching the top tier. That's what has separated race drivers from the stick and ball sports. And why race drivers seldom found themselves in trouble with the law or society at large. Stick and ball athletes are shielded from the consequences of their actions as soon as they exhibit exceptional potential. Signing young drivers in a similar way is going to produce similar results.
They sign kids to offer sheets to Div 1 schools when they are 13, same with young kids to deals for Premierships in England. It’s crazy, and it ruins kids. Stop thinking this kid will be the next this or that, just let them be a kid. If they reach that pinnacle level, great. If not, then they aren’t saddled with the guilt of not being what was expected of him.
Exactly. No respect for the equipment at all. It’s blatantly obvious at the superspeedways. The immaturity of the drivers, the unlimited funding offered by the multi-car teams, and the broken points system is to blame.
It was easy back in the day all you needed was a car , truck , car trailer, car garage with a lift , whole lot of tools, money for tires and entry fees the ability to just not work and go racing all around the country this is all you needed. Oh ya talents and luck.
For context for 5:07 RIP Eddie was a trending tweet for a streamers cat that was prominently featured in his streams who passed away. The streamer pulls about 20K viewers a night and had been streaming at that level for at least 3 years.
Rich elite children get into nascar despite severe lack of talent. A poor very talented driver is guaranteed to not have a chance. It’s not an opinion anymore no way it can be viewed as anything other than fact.
I honestly don’t mind drivers speaking their mind about things. It’s part of what makes this sport different than other motorsports. I’d rather hear that than have every driver say the same things all the time
Mike is just Calling it like it is from a Historical aspect... because people tend to discount the history, and the media "hype" makes them believe the New Kid is the greatest thing to ever happen to the sport.
What Mike is saying here about racing is also applicable to life in general. It doesn’t matter who you are, what you do or where you come from, you must respect those who came before you and who built the world you live in.
A message to all the guys on Door Bumper Clear: Mike Joy was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT in his Tweet and you guys were ABSOLUTELY WRONG in your responses. The was NO air to clear, and Mike had NOTHING to apologize for. Another case of guys working for NASCAR teams who have no idea how out of touch with the fans they really are.
Its not a Nascar issue. Its a generational issue. Many young people are raised with a complete sense of entitlement. Yes, that has always existed as well but it has gone from the exemption to becoming the rule. The simple fact that people are going after Mike for this proves it even more. People just dont want to admit that todays generation acts like a bunch of spoiled children that demand respect while giving none. BTW Im not blaming the kids. They didnt raise themselves. Parents need to take a hard look in the mirror.
Just my opinion about how to get the no name drivers into good cars is to set up a fund that everyone in the system has to put a percentage of there pay into much like a retirement fund (that is properly managed) and then every year there is a board that meets that gets suggested drivers and that big group of drivers goes and tests cars until it’s dwindled down to a smaller & smaller group until there is one or two left for a given ride? Just a thought?
@@OddballHillbilly419 Including a life of an innocent person who just happened to be driving on the same road robbie was. Before it even happened, a judge could have saved both of those lives. Robbie had a couple instances of major reckless driving incidents in the years before the crash, and could have had his drivers license suspended, but the charges were reduced by lawyers each time
Noah Gragson is probably the only highlight in NASCAR at the moment. The young man has talent, doesn't take crap, stands his ground and can wheel a stockcar.
I'm not against him. Kind of like him because he reminds me of what guys like Stewart, Kurt Busch, Logano in his earlier years, Kyle Busch, Spencer, and Robby Gordon were like then. Adds some fun and personality
He’s the personality people wish Nascar had more of. Then they complain when he shows said personality. It gets boring when drivers have an Elliott personality
@@joshjarnagin3161 agree 100% Josh. I wonder what his support rating is amongst the old school supporters. I watch Xfinity to watch him and Josh Berry race.
Money buys rides. Lots of rich pro late teams have 10 times the budget of the average racer. They don't give a damn who they wreck. They have no fear and don't feel they have to earn respect. 14 yr olds bumping to win at all costs like its the Daytona 500. "Its just hard racing" "I didn't see it" "I was being held up" "I race the way I'm raced" All this at 14 -18 yrs of age. Daddy's are often the instigators. If they get wrecked, they just go get another race car. The reality is, most finally call it quits after 400 - 600 grand is spent over a couple seasons. But in the process, they've wrecked teams that have to call it quits after just half a season because they are torn up by these same teams, over and over after a big pile up. And people wonder why car counts have seen in steady decline over the past decade at most Saturday night tracks let alone big invitationals. 🙄 Mike Joy knows what he's talking about. He's been there, done that.
Exactly. There is so much money in Super Late Model racing. When they got rid of the regional Late Model Nascar series, they killed the ladder to the top for anyone who doesn't have money. There are very few parts from a SLM that can be used on an ARCA type car. It's starting over for double the cost and 1/3 to 1/2 of the races to move to the next level. Now there is a bottle neck at the SLM level of people that can't afford to move up.
@@davidfstanford Humpy Wheeler nailed it a few years ago on a Facebook post; ARCA cars should have the following rules; • Series Shock rule with ARCA impoundment • No bumpstops + 5.5" big spring at all 4 corners • Camshaft lift rule (.485) • Cylinderhead rule + 9:1 compression ratio • Impounded stock carburetor • ex-Nationwide cars at increased weight (4,200 lbs)
I'll say the same thing I said last time this was discussed. If you want drivers to have that maturity & respect before they enter the top levels then you need to be advocating for major structural changes. Namely imposed age restrictions, no-one in trucks under 20yo, no-one in xfinity under 25yo, and no-one in cup under 30yo. It's not possible to behave like a 30yo driver who's spent the past 10-15 years saying and doing the stupid things in their late teens & early 20's at races that aren't nationally broadcast, when you're in cup at age 20.
Your still Full of s**t.... lol 😂 oh man good show guys. We got you’re definitely right drivers are not anything like they used to be in quite frankly whatever driver programs there are they should start them off working on the cars understanding the cars before anybody ever touches a steering wheel or a gas pedal do you know when I was growing up that’s what I did hell even to this day I still work on my own even my personal vehicles mainly because I don’t trust anybody else to touch them but it’s called pride.
Why do they need to appreciate anything, Mike. I just don't get your point of view. Let the drivers say what they want to say and do what they want to do. What you're trying to do is called censorship. I admire you greatly but I just don't agree with your opinion.
Noah should be parked for weeks and JR should drop him immediately. He has the money so someone would pick him up but he needs to learn. It was intentional.
id like to see these overpaid commentators do their job and report the action without their opinion ,unless theyre are a former driver they should staY IN THEIR LANE,.
Mike Joy is my favorite commentator in all of sports. I could listen to him and Al Michaels commentate dishes being washed, and I would still be excited.
Add Doc Emrick to that mix, and you might have a perfect broadcast there. Three of the best, and the best in their incredibly deep fields, no doubt... except for maybe Gary Thorne for hockey.
Yeah you dont mess around with mike Joy. That man is HIGHLY and I mean highly respect in nascar and other forms of motor sports for a serious reason. When he speaks like he did today if I was Noah Gragson I would listen, and I would listen good!
Had to like that interview and comment session with . Mike Joy is the best 👌, been watching him (and NASCAR) , for years . You have to appreciate and respect , what Mike says !👍
Are things that Noah has said any worst than what Kyle Busch said earlier in his career? To this day I will never be a fan of Kyle and under no circumstance will I ever pull for him. I once felt that way about his brother but Kurt admitted his attitude was wrong and that he made mistakes and he is a better man for it. Kyle has changed a little probably because of being married and having the responsibility of raising children. But until he confesses his mistakes and owns up to them I can not be a Kyle fan. I don't understand why their team owners don't have a word of prayer with these young drivers. Surely they should be able to control some of these bad behaviors!
Because prayer doesn't fix anything when it comes to attitude. The only way to get to a driver and help they see the error in their ways is pulling them out of the seat and the teams and NASCAR won't do that.
@@Draven_Michael I was being loose with the term word of prayer. Back in my RadioShack days word of prayer meant a woodshed moment or a verbal lashing. Though I do think prayer is a powerful tool in people's lives. But we are all entitled to different of opinion.
Great segment! I had no idea of Mike Joy's personal racing background. Helps put his race commentary in perspective. Very professional for you guys to have him on, one of the best DBC episodes I've seen.
Dale jr has to talk to noah as a team owner sit down and tell noah to tone it down a bit he can still be aggressive but a little bit less maybe ge will win more Noah got skill and equipment just tone it down a bit less aggressive dale jr needs to talk
Freddie needs to take stock of where he's sitting. The supporters of JRM drivers, Gragson included, help fund this show and by association his lifestyle...
I've heard many veteran drivers from Tony Stewart all the way to Rusty Wallace and Jeff Burton say it over and over again. Back when they all came into the sport there was an unwritten code of on track conduct that all the drivers learned along the way when coming into the series. But that was lost once they all left, and now you're left with what you have for drivers when it comes attitude and conduct
I get the point of where the sport comes from but no one uses a washing machine and thinks, "Man my grand parents didn't have this growing up I should appreciate it more."
I mean Mike of course knows there are funded drivers. But the thing is, most drivers get funding from parents up to a certain point if their careers. Then you have the guys that can get the best equipment in the trucks and Xfinity series because of Daddy’s money. Guys like Noah and Riley Herbst haven’t had to work for any drive they have gotten because Daddy always pays for it.
Like the gentleman before me said" seeing Mike Joy in a t-shirt is weird... Seeing Mike Joy in his raceday suit is a class act.... He will be greatly missed when he does retire some day... Just when Ken Squires,, Ned Jarrett,, Darrall Waltrip,, Benny Parsons and great announcers have retired.... All have been missed.., Mr. Joy...... You are greatly appreciated
Brad Keselowski couldn't shut his mouth right from the start. Ryan Newman loved criticizing his own teammate fairly early in NASCAR.. Maybe it's an ownership issue.
