@R. W I agree hes good but hes good because P taught him.. P made him good, but when it come down to it P money is a lyrical genius and In my mind, because let's be honest that's all this is , is opinion, but in my mind P money is 1 of the sickest lyracists out there and dot gave it a good go, he went hard and he dropped some bangers but as a whole, P money rinsed him and hung him out to dry
@@k2thab_SxP p didnt teach him. u ain't from our era. dot was about before p money. there first session on radio with ghetto u can see how dot was ahead of p then. don't get me wrong p is dope but he didnt teach him my guy
@@k2thab_SxP that is what P money said though. There’s no proof that P money taught him. Even if he did you can tell dot just has something about him that sets him apart
Two ridiculously talented mic-men. Difficult to pick a winner in all honesty. Both had bars and both talk nonsense. Won't be a clash like this in Grime again. Personally, I rate Dot over P, but I fully rate both artists. Came with the goods during this epic clash.
I like both p money and dot rotten but dot organised grime and steak beak is one of the hardest war dub in grime but ghetts black winter send is the hardest
ellie johnson nah steakbake was cold so was both real talks. P is hard. But dot beat him. Take out the "hes lying" we dont know who has more facts. But lyrically dot was better.
Dot won marginally in terms of quality of dubs But in life P is in charge and is sticking to facts. Dot changes his stories all the time and doesn't keep it 💯
If we are talking flows and bars Dot won but if were talking facts and just brutality P won, Steak Bake was the best dub but Dot peaked there and the last 2 were meh whilst P Money dubs were all brutal and straight to the point, Dot better rapper but P is better at dissing
P Money won over the beats and performance IMO. I'm sorry but I get bored every time I hear to Dot Rotten. But still I'll repeat P Money songs always. P Money's Real Talk still my best favorite of all this Clash. It became an addiction.
respect Firell Parker,...true say nobody knows but P and Dot,..and close spa's and fam,...its sad that these two both have beef cos they both spit some siccc bars,...i like them both,..but just think Dot is da man,...
Reasoning to oblivion i spoke to someone on youtube who saud they were in nas circle etc. They were neutral or more leaning towards dot. And they were sayong dots facts were current ps facts were old and facts jendor said. Which implied what dot said had some truths.which if thats the case he definately won
So many dot fans saying he won and so many p fans saying he won, it was pure flames from both. Ama P fan and him proving evidence just makes his claims even harder. Mental both of em 🔥🔥
Still banging the whole vid so many bars forget who wins just bare punchlines bars and flows only the vets like ghetts wiley duggz have had battles like this.
I rate them both but this ruined pmoney for me the fact he made man like peri trying to take the piss saying he couldn't afford food and ate leftover chicken then dot bodies that whole song in one sentence in a 7minute song saying hes vegan ahahha
He's taking the piss out of him for having a dead career even though he tried being pop which usually has an audience that is easier to please, which is why he is poor, he's talking about the actions which are the reason for him being poor. big difference.
Some of the comments I'm reading are mad. It's beef. As soon as someone lies, they lose. Comments prove how people just like to believe whatever they want to hear.
ProfessorSuccesor how do we know whos telling the truth both people have been called liars so what do they both lose didnt think so. Thats why you judge it on lyrics mainly
nah P lost, everything P said Dot spoke up and cleared up. Then P came with fake court papers and took another L when that got exposed. Honestly P is a sick rapper but he didn't win this.
You know what I may be biased cause I have never rated P, i think he’s wack as an artist. I gave him the win against Ghetts even though Imo Ghetts is the goat. But fuck me, i think Dot destroyed him. Steak Bake is one of the hardest diss tracks I’ve ever heard. Spirit bomb is a fucking tune. Just my opinion
I dont care who man . just be happy we got some cool beef battles in 2k17+ todays rap scene missing quallity this beef in todays grime scene was lit as F.
Both artists are smashing it... Does anyone else get the impression this is a massive publicity stunt and they are actually both good mates? Either way 🔥
God damn how am.i only hearing this beef now. You can disagree with me but Dot got murdered. When i heard P was involved i just knew its a body i remember P v Ghetts in like 2010 its mad to think Dot and P went at it but it was long time coming. Both sick spitters but my last verdict P won this war. BUT Dot Rottens one Bar tho You remind me of Bellamy from.One Piece you wont believe in my dream till you see me decend from space.
LMAO I must say I ain't no p money fan every since he try come for ghetts but do the facts and wat ever else lyrically and with the beats P fkin bodied dot like foreal lmao P distroyed it fam
B Nada What do you mean everything Dot was saying are accusations no one in their right mind will admit to everything P came with are things that happened almost a decade ago. Dot already mentioned about being broke in his first album "This is the Beginning " and he talks about it. Dot already mentioned the situation about Ms Bratt and lady shivs years ago and even the samurai situation in tracks years ago. Only just come grime fans won't know that because Dot wasn't even relevant RAP WISE and was focused on producing since 2014. And let's not forget how P was saying why are you repeating yourself THEN CONTRADICTS HIMSELF by repeating shit that's already on the internet from years ago. P lost the clash
Youse are all obviously not listening properly if you think dot won this dot doesn't make sense he goes on about 2 thingsall the time and doesn't respond to wot p says or deny anything just goes on about the same thing p money all the way n to top it he not real #masterwriter
Mentions his gay brother p gettig moved too his bro being gay woman beating his weight. But yes same thing. P spoke about what dot being poor even though hes made ps from producing and around 010 was one of the biggest grime artists arojnd his clash with wiley is what messed him up. Him being rushed and old stuff so
Bogeham13 dot got ended where is he now? Dot came to a grime beef with lies upon lies plus the worst thing he came out with rap in a grime beef that's a instant L you're stupid and not a proper grime fan if you think that 😂😂 dot took a BIG FAT L get over it if he did win this beef how come a couple weeks later he released a new song and it never even got 70k views but his dub were getting over 200k because it was beef with p money dots name is dead it will always be dead he is not respected by any grime mc the only people that like him are his old school fans dot took an L just deal with it
I'm frustrated on behalf of P in this beef fr like how am I flaming this guy with facts and he keeps touching mic and just lying but it sounds fucking sick? Long day
0:53 - "Got this bitch lying..." 1:09 - "Came studio tried to rush me, then I G-checked..." Except P punched you up Dot, and you both chat about it several times over the rest of the beef. So... Dot ends himself after 1m10s? His bars are hard, yeah, but it's beef, not who can spit sicker.
Well they already did and told everyone how that went. But I meant more, it's personal beef which Dot has decided to air out in public, but people going on like it's a soundclash and some lyrical battle. If Dot is just saying everything under the sun and P is telling him "you're lying" x1000 then naturally he's gonna sound repetitive.
I don't know shit about what the documents p are flashing are supposed to look like in england, but the shit seems suspect as fuck. Spelling errors and shit.
That thing is some transcript that has been copied down, definitely not a real court legal document or whatever. But... that's not got anything to do with my comment. Did you mean to reply to this?
So ghetts won over p money years ago right but now there both dope spotters ghetts done way more origination while p was kind of average but money's new album has got a few bangers plus he toured Melbourne Australia first prob coz ghetts has a real record
