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DOUGLAS AIRLINERS - Part 2 of 3, The Great Douglas 4-Engine Propliners 

Celebrating Aviation with Mike Machat
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The heyday of the piston era in commercial aviation!
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@engrpas
@engrpas 9 месяцев назад
I flew in a DC-4 on a charter flight operated by Maritime Central Airways from Vienna to Moncton NB (Canada) with over 60 other Hungarian refugees in 1957. So this airplane has a special place in my heart. We made two fuel stops - in Prestwick and Keflavik.
@colonial6452
@colonial6452 9 месяцев назад
I flew as a passenger in a US Navy C-54 in 1967 on a reserve flight from Roanoke, Va,., to Willow Grove, Pa. to Norfolk, VA, with a return to Roanoke a few days later. Seating was a canvas bench along the sides of the plane, with rubber plugs in the windows for ventilation, along with a plywood floor. In 1979, I had a flight in a Colombian DC-6 cargo plane from Barranquilla to Miami (I was a vice-consul and my boss asked me to fly along to make sure that the line was legit.). Plywood floor again, with a flight engineer who kept looking out of the windows with a flashlight to see how much oil the engines were throwing. The plane's cargo consisted of three engines being transported to Miami for overhaul. At the time, the cargo lines considered the DC-6 the most efficient cargo carrier. Others used in the area were the C-46 and C-47. One of my more interesting tasks was to track down the identity of a crashed plane that had been coming in to pick up a drug shipment. The only piece given to the consulate was a metal plate showing a part serial number. We managed to identify the aircraft as a former USAF C-118 (DC-6). Another interesting Douglas plane was a confiscated DC-7 sitting on the ramp at the Barranquilla Airport, which had been captured by the Colombian Army when it landed carrying a cargo of children's toys to be traded for drugs. I am retired now and only see these planes in museums.
@Agislife1960
@Agislife1960 Год назад
During the 90's I was a flight Engineer on DC-6's for NAC in AK. The Six is one of the finest machines to ever take flight, designed by smart men using slide rules. The saying that we had at that time was, The DC-6 was the best prop liner Douglas ever built, combined with the best piston engines that Pratt & Whitney ever built.
@colgatetoothpaste4865
@colgatetoothpaste4865 Год назад
I have been saying this these whole years we must show respect to those forgotten heroes 👏
@johnparrott4689
@johnparrott4689 8 месяцев назад
I had the honor of riding an NAC jump seat c 2003. My only experience in a big piston propeller airplane. The NAC crew were first rate and the plane beautifully maintained, even the pressurization worked.
@dmfinpa
@dmfinpa Год назад
I was an aviation crazy kid in the 50’s, and my very first flight was on an Eastern DC-7B from Bradley-Hartford to Philly. Only an hour flight but I was in Seventh Heaven. I still have my ticket and Golden Falcon envelope along with a half-dozen old B&W snapshots my dad took of me deplaning. What a memory, and how nice to revisit it through this great video featuring the very same type aircraft. Oh, and in 1968 in the Air Force I had the opportunity to catch an instrument training flight from Langley to Colorado Springs in a C-54.
@mikeguthrie5432
@mikeguthrie5432 Год назад
Ahh, I love those old birds. I worked at United Air Limes SFO maintenance center back in the 60s on those DC-6s. They were very dependable machines. And fairly easy to work on. I did sheetmetal/structural repair on them until they were retired in 1969.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
Great comment, thanks!
@jamesfisher9288
@jamesfisher9288 4 месяца назад
Thanks for a really great video and the wonderful memories it conjured. My first flight at 14 was on a DC-3. The male flight attendant passed around a basket of Chiclets chewing gum to help relieve our ears in the unpressurized cabin. 3 years later we flew to SFO on a DC-6 with a semi-circular lounge in the aft of the cabin, where the hostess (that’s what they were called in the 50’s) sat with us & played cards. Several years later we returned from the UK to the U.S. on a Pan Am DC-7B. I turned 21 on that flight & while I was writing in my travelogue at midnight, the steward wearing a white jacket & black bow-tie set a martini in front of me. My birth date was listed on his manifest. Those were the days.
@sillybirdy1994
@sillybirdy1994 3 месяца назад
This is a really cool story! Thanks for sharing!
@WAL_DC-6B
@WAL_DC-6B 3 года назад
I grew up in Park Ridge, IL which was just east of Chicago's O'Hare Field. I recall the old Chicago-Douglas plant that built most of the Douglas C-54 Skymasters (all the C-54Ds). The main assembly facility, located at the far northeast side of O'Hare, was a long, mostly wooden structure with a classic "saw-tooth" factory roof. As a little six year old kid I was able to get an inside view of this plant when after the 1964 Armed Forces Day aircraft display at the military section of O'Hare, my dad lifted me up to look through one of the windows of this huge assembly hall. The whole place was completely empty! Not a machine in sight. I remember being disappointed. Turns out after WWII all the jigs, tools, machines and C-54 parts were packed up and sent to Canadair at Montreal, QC to build the DC-4M/Northstar. The whole complex was torn down about 1966.
@craigpennington1251
@craigpennington1251 3 года назад
Flew on the prop airliners and loved it very much. Never ever had a mishap of any sort that I can remember. No matter which airline you flew, all were top notch people and the ground crews were too. Sure miss the sound of those big radials.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Agreed 100%!
@craigpennington1251
@craigpennington1251 3 года назад
You're welcome.
@ralphe5842
@ralphe5842 Год назад
DC-6 like most piston engine aircraft weren’t nearly as safe as planes today and the 6 was a bit poorer than most of its contemporaries accidents per passenger miles were actually appalling by modern standards
@kevinwelsh7490
@kevinwelsh7490 3 года назад
In 1965 our family of 6 flew on vacation Vancouver-Reykjavik-Gatwick 18 hrs on Dan Air DC-7. I think of how thrilling it must have been for my parents. 8 years earlies my family immigrated to Canada arriving in NY on an ocean liner. On the flight I was 4 years old, vague memories only. So I can say I have flown trans-Atlantic on a prop airliner! and I'm only 60! Thank you for the history of DC 7 prop airliner.
@glennweaver3014
@glennweaver3014 3 года назад
Another excellent job Mike. I never grow tired of seeing and learning about Douglas propliners.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Thanks Glenn, and Part 3 on Douglas Jetliners will post this Friday.
@auntbarbara5576
@auntbarbara5576 3 года назад
@@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 It's excellent as always!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
@@auntbarbara5576 Thank you for your lovely comment and kind words on the channel - really means a lot! It's comments like yours that make producing these videos so gratifying, knowing that viewers like you are truly enjoying the content. Appreciate your taking the time to write that, and great to have you aboard!
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 3 года назад
My father worked with American Airlines in the 1950s. I flew on DC3s often from Washington National Airport to up state New York. I still remember them doing "run-ups" at the end of the runway prior to take off. Real meals and great flights.
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 3 года назад
Correction: DC6s not DC3s. However, I have flown on DC3s with American Airlines once.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Great comment, thanks!
@kennethramonet5421
@kennethramonet5421 2 года назад
Man, I LOVE everything about your RU-vid videos! Nothing fancy, just chock full of interesting info, interesting pics/clips, and a no nonsense voice over delivery. Very well done!!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 2 года назад
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@Skeeterguy24
@Skeeterguy24 3 года назад
I’m realizing this morning that I’ve had a huge gap in my air history from 1945 to 1958! I’ve always thought first about the Connie and 707. Douglas was a huge player and now I’m up to speed! Have a need to see The High and Mighty complete without commercials. 😊
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Thanks for the comment Jerry, and yes, The High and the Mighty was the quintessential prototype for every single disaster movie ever made. Enjoy!
@Skeeterguy24
@Skeeterguy24 3 года назад
Comedy too! (Airplane!)
@sparky35805
@sparky35805 3 года назад
As the story goes,when Eddie Rickenbacker of Eastern was told about Capital painting squares around DC-4 windows,He replied that the next thing they would do is to paint faces on the windows to make it look like they were carrying passengers.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Yes, I do remember hearing that 'Captain Eddie' story, thanks!
@jkdm7653
@jkdm7653 3 года назад
I read this story also, but in that account, Captain Eddie was referring to the DC-4s of rival National Airlines.
@Redgolf2
@Redgolf2 3 года назад
The Connie DID start life as an airliner, an idea and request of Howard Hughes that was taken over by the military at the outbreak of war, that was the 049
@erwinschmidt7265
@erwinschmidt7265 10 месяцев назад
On Lan Chile DC-6 Panama to Miami, in middle of Carribean, #2 blew in fireball w/one bottle put-out, #3 blew in fireball w/both bottle put-out, then #4 just died in pity for it's buddy. Mid-Ocean, #1 lone soldier, stewardess crew gave ditching instructions in English, Spanish, & French, & we struggled on. Approached Cuba & MIG 15 materialized off each wing. I only 9, waved to Pilot, passengers freaked, but he just waved back. Suddenly, rt. MIG zoomed up, over, & behind, but other MIG followed quick. I believe had shoot-down orders, but lt. MIG didn't like it, so they zoomed left of Liner & fought it out until rt. MIG took up his station with lt. MIG following suit. Nearly out of power, we cleared Cuba, MIGs came back w/lt communicating with our Capt, then driving out in front, buddy buddied up astern, & we were Push/Pulled to Miami. Huge flotilla out by Airport wantin' to see the big crash at dawn, but Capt & MIG Pilots disappointed. MIGs broke off last minute, plane struggled over landing light gantries with #1 still at full supercharger, & we dropping gear as cleared last. Gear locked and half second later landed on grass of threshold. We rolled a bit but then bumped up on Foote of runway, & Capt announced, '"Welcome to Miami!" MIGs outta gas circled, landed over us, and taxied back to say. "HI". Pilot from lt. spoke Russian & Spanish but Buddy spoke only Spanish. Passengers, crew, & Pilots all went to Souvenir Shop, so Dad paid for MIG Pilots & they bought a lot of stuff to remember when!! MIGs, gassed up, so left in magnificent takeoff, but 20 minutes later USAF appeared "to save us"!! 15 min later, State Dept Reps showed up in DC-3 to help with "rescue". They took our sht, and balked when hit my DOD Top Secret Security Clearance Card in billfold, and then Dad had one too!! No passengers, crew, nor Pilots could remember seeing a MIG that morning, which I'm sure didn't agree with Airport Personnel. Dad handed card with just phone number on it to SOS honcho, & asked him to dial asking for Dwight. He started speaking with, "Have trio of spies down here in Miami blah, blah,blah....ah what.....both Erwin Schmidts...and guy's Wife. Well, we were just doing our jobs Sir....ask Wife for cookies?" Honcho most tamed, asked Mom if would have Boys drop off 5 doz peanut butter cookies at earliest convenience. Mom scared shtless, just nodded, so he continued, "Cookies baked upon return home, Boys happy to deliver, and they'll be starting back in a couple minutes! Thanks for taking my call, Mr. President...no there'll be no further troubles, and apologize for interrupting your breakfast, Sir. Poor bass turd neutered, fell back in chair, then escorted us to luggage pick-up, told Dad to drive carefully, and we were off!! DC-6 so powerful it can make destination even if doesn't have enough energy or power to do it! Now that's an airplane!! And Yes, Ike got 7 doz cookies in about a week. I was jet aircraft designer for DOD, and therefore for Ike, so he loved explanation of return trip from Panama. He laughed, and laughed, and laughed...then told us DOD & CIA were investigating Ruskies having some type of cloaking device, as pair of MIGs had appeared and then disappeared before their eyes. Ahh, I didn't see anything....did you???
@GH-oi2jf
@GH-oi2jf 3 года назад
One of the first flights I took was on a DC-6. I remember that I could see fire from the exhaust ports. After that trip, it was almost always on a jet.
@Glen.Danielsen
@Glen.Danielsen Год назад
This is thoroughly delightful, Mike. Thanks for your work! My father was a aeronautical engineer with “Douglas Aircraft,” which of course later became McDonnell-Douglas. He was a principle engineer in cargo systems. His prides & joys were the DC-8, DC-9, DC-10, and the C-17. Cheers, sir.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
Many thanks!
@williammcintosh6267
@williammcintosh6267 7 месяцев назад
@@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 What a great channel! In the late 50's, I used to go to English Field in Amarillo and stand by the fence and watch Super Connies and Convairs land and depart in TWA and Braniff livery. This was before the internationalization of America brought about all the hijackings and security problems of later years. Little did I realize at the time that I was witnessing the very best era of American aviation. And the flying experience was so much better, too. It was about so much more than the money. It was about people who loved what they did. To fly was to do something special. Now I don't fly at all, and the whole thing of what aviation has become here is just a damned shame. Thanks for the memories, sir.
@RedArrow73
@RedArrow73 Год назад
My visceral reaction as a 10yo boy to the sound of the DC-4's engines, having first sampled DC-6's owned by United and Universal, was, "Holy S*** I'm never riding in one of those". The R-2800 ran with such grace and authority and confidence you just knew you would get there.
@klesmer
@klesmer 3 года назад
I consider myself very fortunate. In 1959 on our way to join my father in Germany [He was in the US Army] we took off from Peterson Field in Colorado Spring in a Vickers Vicount to Stapleton in Denver. There we boarded a DC7c and flew to Chicago and then on to New York for a three day stay at FT. Hamilton. Then we boarded a Mats DC6b a LaGuardia and flew over night to refuel at Shannon Ireland and then on to Reinmain in Frankfort. Quite an adventure for a 12 yr old airplane nut. Thee years later we came back on a DC8. Those were some of the best years of my life.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Wonderful story, and thanks for sharing!
@ludwigmesser106
@ludwigmesser106 3 года назад
BEA flew a Vickers Viscount from Heathrow Airport London to Salzburg, Austria/Europe when we visited our Relatives. All the Best, Ludwig Messer
@klesmer
@klesmer 3 года назад
@@ludwigmesser106 When I was in high school we lived in Widefield Colorado just south of Colorado Springs airport Peterson Field. I remember many a snowy night laying in my bed being serenaded to sleep by the sound of four R/R Darts and their Viscount master . The mixture of wind blown snow and the haunting howl of the Darts is something I will always remember and cherish. Those days are gone forever.
@rickey5353
@rickey5353 Год назад
Fascinating presentation, sir. It appears we both are from the round engine era and can appreciate just how stunningly beautiful these queens of the sky truly were. Alas, every aircraft we fly aboard already has its replacement on the drafting table.
@jerrypoller6902
@jerrypoller6902 Год назад
From the glint of sun off the spinning props to the exhaust fire during night flight there was nothing more beautiful.
@ClearView141
@ClearView141 Год назад
Mike: I encourage you put together a video history that focuses on the Douglas DC-6, as I consider it to be the first modern airliner that had it all together in its standard production configuration: pressurization, air conditioning, constant-cross-section fuselage, hot-wing de-icing, cruise speed of more than 300 mph, tricycle landing gear, weather radar, and doppler radar (eliminating the need for navigators). (And please correct me if I am wrong about any of those.)
@bertg.6056
@bertg.6056 3 года назад
Mesmerizing historical data and photos. Fabulous, Mike.
@dragonmeddler2152
@dragonmeddler2152 Год назад
Very good instructive video. Thanks for your work. These were the common airliners (along with the Connie) that graced the skies over my Kansas home as a kid. We were located about 60 miles west of the Kansas City MKC Airport, so I was looking up most of the time. Later, when I started flying, I purposefully chose flights with DC-6 & 7 and Convair 440 service just for the fun of it, knowing I would spend the rest of my future years flying on jets. The prop flights were always relaxed and had a local feel to them. A 1966 Central Air Lines 440 hop from KC to Little Rock thru Springfield, MO with about 10 business and salesmen types and the lone stewardess sat with us and even had a couple drinks and smoked along with the pax. She was probably mid '30s and had been doing these flights for many years, appeared to be acquainted with several of the middle age men passengers. I was reporting to my first Navy duty station at NAS Jacksonville, FL. Never forgot this flight.
@brentdykgraaf184
@brentdykgraaf184 7 месяцев назад
Your content rocks...your narration and research and pictures takes us back...thank you soo much for posting.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 7 месяцев назад
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@johnparrott4689
@johnparrott4689 8 месяцев назад
If anyone has a chance to visit Goodyear Airport in west Phoenix, the very last Douglas prop liner ever made, a DC-7C originally delivered to KLM, is there. It’s visible from the surrounding road. It appears intact and well preserved. Thank you for a wonderful series of videos, Mike!
@davidduganne5939
@davidduganne5939 3 года назад
Excellent! Nice mid week treat--thanks!
@loveaodai100
@loveaodai100 Год назад
I love this video especially the beautiful high definition images. I am old enough to remember seeing and hearing these planes at nearby Laguardia Airport as a child in the late 50s and early 60s. I think the sound of four radial piston engines planes is getting extremely rare but I was lucky to experience it by way of a flight on a B-24 at Republic Airport (Long Island) in 2014 which I did as a tribute to my father who was a crew member on one during the Second World War. Thank you for sharing this!
@arthurschipper8906
@arthurschipper8906 5 месяцев назад
For years i used to watch old 4 engine dc aircraft converted to fire fighting duty fly out of Abbotsford, BC Canada. Loved those piston jobs.
@johncolwell7554
@johncolwell7554 3 года назад
My father was chief tooling engineer at Douglas Aircraft Santa Monica he told that the DC6 DC7 DC8 AND the DC 9 was the best passenger Air craft built. I grew up close to the Douglas plant in Santa Monica some of the still pictures are amazing no houses and a short runway . ..great video thanks
@jdub4221
@jdub4221 10 месяцев назад
Wow!!! Just subscribed. Absolutely amazing how you present these vids. Well done! Appreciate your passion and knowledge. Keep ‘em coming!!!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the comment and great to have you aboard!
@moriver3857
@moriver3857 3 года назад
You definitely know your prop airliners. Already watched your part 3 first since I worked and was a crewmember on the jets in part 3. Glad someone is still passionate about the 4 engine DC prop airplanes. The golden days of passenger flying.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@hertzair1186
@hertzair1186 3 года назад
Love “The High and the Mighty”....the clip of Wayne slapping the Captain, played by Robert Stack, is still shown today when teaching CRM (Crew Resource Management).
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Yes, I've heard that from several airline flight crew friends. Pretty ironic!
@ROBSHOTZ
@ROBSHOTZ 3 года назад
That same DC-4 disappeared over the Pacific between SFO and Honolulu. Strangely like the movie plane almost did.
@Liberator74
@Liberator74 Год назад
🤩 Beautiful footage - oh, to go back in time and experience this!🤩
@TheGbeecher
@TheGbeecher 3 месяца назад
Great video...thank you...😊
@johnplaninac9980
@johnplaninac9980 3 года назад
Another great video of the great airline’s that used to be and the great plane’s of the time. Great photos.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Thanks John, and the first 'live' in-studio video on Republic's F-15 proposal model posts tonight at 5:00pm. 'Hope you like it!
@johnpinckney4979
@johnpinckney4979 2 года назад
June 1965, a Delta DC-7B became my second aircraft type. We flew DCA-CLT-ATL. First class was really First Class back then. I enjoyed it. That long weekend had two "one-and-only" rides. The other was a DC-3 on Southern Airways. But, the CAE-CLT-DCA ride was the first of many Electra trips I'd take over the next two years...
@PA28-181
@PA28-181 3 года назад
Love this stuff...brings back memories of flying for the first time when I was 11 years old. It was a Lan Chile DC6 or B. I wish I knew more .
@icxcnika1823
@icxcnika1823 Год назад
Fond memories, took a flight with TAA from Adelaide South Australia,to Darwin Northern Territory . Beautiful DC 6 aircraft. Beautiful and friendly air hostesses. Back to Adelaide SA week later , same airline, same DC 6 aircraft same crew . Missed those days !
@suzanneleather2748
@suzanneleather2748 Год назад
As a aircraft mech in the early 80s@BOS , South side ramp, I happened to look over toward Easterns terminal and saw an amazing sight! A PBA DC-3, a Zantop DC-6, a United DC-8, a Eastern DC-9 and an American DC-10! On the taxi-way. Only missing a 4 & 7. Took a photo with a little 110 Kodak I carried. They weren't in line by number, but the Doug's were only broken up by another Eastern (whisper!!jet) 727, yeah real quiet! I did contact work at the time and worked PBA, Air North's DC 3 frieghters and Zantop Electra's and DC 6s when they came in,. Those were days work was fun! And greasy! The end of an era, glad I didn't miss it
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
Great comment, thanks!
@suzanneleather2748
@suzanneleather2748 Год назад
@@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 ☺️!! Piston pounders forever!
@fubarmodelyard1392
@fubarmodelyard1392 10 месяцев назад
Very informative and great pictures. In 1946 Santa Fe railroad started Santa Fe Skyway with the DC-4. It lasted until 1948
@Yosemite-George-61
@Yosemite-George-61 3 года назад
What a well produced, nostalgic and entretaining video, one of your best. You put me "there" I could almost hear the engines and smell the coffee... The DC-7C is my fav. prop liner, my grandma had a collection of Reader's Digest from the 50s and often I saw a Douglas, one page commercial with a Seven Seas that was pushed by two big hands just behind the engines... it spoke about the speed and power... Never forget that image.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
My Mom always read Reader's Digest and I remember that ad!
@HootOwl513
@HootOwl513 3 года назад
I flew on a MATS C-118 from NellIs AFB [NV] to Langley AFB [VA] in 1974. The seats were set up backwards. She flew pretty low, about 10,000 feet. I noticed the inboard starboard engine was spewing long red/purple tongues of flame. I mentioned this to the AF MSgt sitting next to me, ''Oh yeah. Number 3's running rich, '' and went back to his book. Long flight. Fuel stop in TX. On arrival at Langley, I caught an expensive taxi ride to NAS Norfolk. Next morning, I got a hop on a Navy C-9 NightIngale to my PCS duty station, MCAS Cherry Point NC. The C-9 was convertible: Forward was one pallet with 9 seats, behind that it was empty as Jonah's Whale's belly -- just a sea of deck rollers. Fast hop, pro crew.
@jerrypoller6902
@jerrypoller6902 Год назад
My dad was the Chief Check Engineer for the DC6B at Pan Am. He started on the Boeing 314 and his last equipment was the DC8. I got to "fly" (on autopilot) a DC6B as a 12 year old when my dad took me up to the cockpit to meet the crew - that'w when flying was truly an adventure - I miss it terribly.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
Wonderful comment and story, thanks. Any chance you lived on Long Island NY?
@jerrypoller6902
@jerrypoller6902 Год назад
@@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 Mike: Just wondering why you inquired about living on LI.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@@jerrypoller6902 Hi Jerry: In 1956, I was 9 years old and lived in Bellport, L.I. My Dad was in Real Estate,and one day took me to a client's house somewhere in Suffolk County. This gentleman was a pilot for Pan American flying the DC-6B and based out of Idlewild Airport at the time. Wondered if there was any connection to your story, thanks.
@hadial-saadoon2114
@hadial-saadoon2114 10 месяцев назад
One of my early memories, enhanced by conversations with my mom was of flying from London to NY in 1958 on a Pan Am DC-7. Most notable in my memory of the flight were the exhaust flames being thrown by the Turbo Compound engines, just outside the windows. Also interesting was flying on an Eastern Airline Super Constellation later that month from Idyllwild to San Francisco.
@LMays-cu2hp
@LMays-cu2hp Год назад
Looking very nice. Thank you for sharing.
@power4things
@power4things Месяц назад
Oh, Mike, thank you. Great video and someone else who says "Life imitates Art"! Like with so many technologies, the Douglas piston airliners were perfected on the eve of their obsolescence.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 16 дней назад
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@xpkbrz
@xpkbrz Год назад
Another first class presentation. Keep up the excellent work!
@Mannix2023
@Mannix2023 Год назад
I loved prop planes the sound of them the fire and smoke when they start the engines the sound you hear from a prop plane up in the sky as a kid I remember flying in one 4 prop and I’m glad small cargo companies they still fly them .
@keithwood641
@keithwood641 3 года назад
My family flew from LAX to HNL and then on to Pago Pago, American Samoa on a Pan American DC-7C in 1961. I was almost five years old at the time. Two years later we flew back to the United States on a Boeing 707. While we were in Samoa Pan American began jet service and we were at the airport when the first 707 arrived with lots of fanfare and dignitaries. Have a soft in my heart for the DC-7C.
@wkelly3053
@wkelly3053 3 года назад
Great connection to history. Before my time, in the late '40's and '50's, my family flew in Douglas props from CA to NY and back a few times. My dad flew in the Convair twins for business within CA. My first airline flight was in a 707 in the early '60's. For a long time I didn't realize the DC-4 was unpressurized. It must have been difficult to maintain a schedule in adverse weather.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Thanks for the comment, and good point about flight cancellations for weather with DC-4s. Biggest problems for passengers involved rapid changes in altitude - 'worst ear infection I ever had was caused by a too rapid descent into Tokyo on that AIR AMERICA airplane pictured at the end of the video. Air travel has come a long way indeed!
@stevenhoman2253
@stevenhoman2253 Год назад
Hi there, You are such a wonderful resource for aircraft not normally covered. Most channels are preoccupied by fighter planes and supersonic achievements, which is nice, but my own background, hearkens back to these DC series, of my childhood. I spent so much time during my school holidays playing in and around these planes, and I still have the scars on my head to prove it. Those antennae and pitot tubes and what not, were difficult to spot sometimes.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@alanknollmeyer9904
@alanknollmeyer9904 3 года назад
Have watched a dozen or more of Mike’s classic airliner and model videos. Great job across the board, non-stop facts, accurate, error free. Great information. Thought I knew a lot about the golden days of airline travel but I am learning new stuff with ever video. Well done!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@zelphx
@zelphx Год назад
Your videos are sure to be excellent; I have watched a great many of them multiple times. Thanks for your efforts!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@MShilobrit
@MShilobrit 3 года назад
Mike, you ROCK! Besides being a phenomenal artist you are a great aviation historian. Love your book on the Rainbow, by the way! I also have several of your signed prints on my walls at home! Cheers!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Appreciate the comment, thanks, and honored to have my artwork in your collection!
@carlhaluss
@carlhaluss 3 года назад
Treasure trove of into and wonderful photos! I learned so much from your presentation! I certainly had never heard of a 'Super DC-3', Harry Truman's special aircraft, and did not know the DC6-B was a stretch of the regular DC6. Thanks so much!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@freddyblack8394
@freddyblack8394 3 года назад
Thanks again for another great jurney through the golden years of air travel....
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@dalewiley1756
@dalewiley1756 3 года назад
Great video, the pictures are all great. Some great views I have never seen before.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Many thanks!
@fredschwarz9502
@fredschwarz9502 2 года назад
I really enjoy your vids. Couple of notes: 1. C-117 @ 4:10 is a RATO (rocked assisted) takeoff. 2. Made my one and only military parachute jump at Navy Parachute Rigger 'A' School (NAS Lakehurst) in 1969 from the Navy/Marine Corps R4D-8 version.
@Matt_from_Florida
@Matt_from_Florida 9 месяцев назад
In more modern times (1980s to the present) It seems like *the regional Florida airlines* (Silver and its predecessors) *are a simile to the modernization which occurred earlier on a national scale.* I missed the propliner conversion of the '50s & '60s but flying locally in Florida from the early 1980s I experienced either Martin or Convair radial airliners to Bandits to Beechcrafts (C99/1900C/1900D) to Brasilias to SAAB 340s to ATRs. I romanticize what my grandfather got to experience as a frequent international traveler in the 50s/60s/70s, but from my Florida experience I can understand how he probably viewed modernization of his time as welcome upgrades. Would love to hear from the *DIRECT PERSPECTIVE* of '50s & '60s travelers!
@hangie65
@hangie65 2 года назад
Awesome review, Mike! Great effort and thanks for posting.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 2 года назад
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@kennethcrowther2277
@kennethcrowther2277 Год назад
Nevertheless, having just been very picky about the performance figures you gave, I must say, great video, and I love your work getting this stuff out on RU-vid. Great presentation! Please keep up the great work!
@xpkbrz
@xpkbrz Год назад
First class presentation, as always. Golden age of aviation
@bkailua1224
@bkailua1224 3 года назад
I flew the 6 as FE FO and CA. I flew the DC-9 and DC-10 also
@michaelcoley7649
@michaelcoley7649 3 года назад
There was also a non-Douglas DC4, the DC4M with RR Merlin engines. It took 3 days to go London-Singapore in September 1953. I was 7.
@jakejacobs7584
@jakejacobs7584 3 года назад
Thank you. After spending a 41 year career flying some of these old birds you kind of get jaded and forget. Watching your work brought back some of the magic of it all. Again, Thank you for some well done pieces.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@tonytango6676
@tonytango6676 3 года назад
There was a DC6 parked on the west side of the terminal in Yellowknife, NWT for a number of years in the 1980s. The belly of the plane was shiny metal with a stage coach and team of horses painted on it. The story I heard was that the airplane landed in Yellowknife and needed a bunch of repairs which the owner couldn’t afford at the time. Then the parking fees got to be pretty large.
@jimandmandy
@jimandmandy 3 года назад
Flew up and down the West Coast in United DC-6/7 along with Western DC-6 and United Convair 340. Great memories of noisy, smoky engine starts.
@user-jg9ms6pu1g
@user-jg9ms6pu1g Год назад
Really excellent work.Wonderfull to listen to you describing all this information about these great aircrafts that I loved since I was 10 year old. .Thank you so much .
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
Appreciate the wonderful comment - many thanks!
@albertschultz7151
@albertschultz7151 Год назад
Many thanks. Excellent editing and narration of a dynamic period of Aviation greats.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@johnlawrence9491
@johnlawrence9491 10 месяцев назад
In Jan of 1964 I flew on a navy c-54 from NAS Glenview to Guantanamo Cuba nonstop for about 12 hr. We took off 3 tons over weight. The #4 engine would not start (it was about -20 f) we went back and forth on the runway trying to windmill the engine to start it. Finally got it going had to refuel and then got going about 5hr late.
@mikearakelian6368
@mikearakelian6368 Год назад
My mother used to fly to NY on connies,Connie's, DC6 7s. Out of oak...that's what started my interest in aviation...hired by eastern,Eastern, JAL....retired now.
@samlogan8096
@samlogan8096 Год назад
Great review of Douglas airliners. With the discussion of the relatively minor cargo variant at 3:38, I thought the C-74 Globemaster and C-124 Globemaster II should also be mentioned. There was definitely crossbreeding of these two planes to the later Douglas models. Over 460 were built and they were fixtures in the USAF from the 50s to the early 70s. The C-124 was called "Old Shakey" because of vibrations and the ongoing joke stated it was 150,000 rivets flying in loose formation. BTW, I flew on DC-3s in Canada in 1975. I was slow and noisy but it worked. I flew to Ireland in 1960 on a 4 engine, single tail prop plane -- I guess it was a Douglas model but not sure what version.
@TheStimpy60
@TheStimpy60 3 года назад
Thanks Mike , well done as always. If you are ever in the need of an idea, you could do a whole episode just on the DC-3 😎 !
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Thanks Dave, and you're right - a DC-3 feature is something I should add to the list.
@babaji1947
@babaji1947 Год назад
I flew on a Swissair DC6-B from Cairo to Zurich, with a stop in Athens, in the summer of 1960.
@royfearn4345
@royfearn4345 Год назад
No mention of the Canadair C4M, basically a pressurised DC4 fitted with Rolls-Royce Merlin engines specifically for BOAC for its Empire routes. Many were sold to Overseas Aviation based at Gatwick. Derby Airways bought four surplus from Overseas, one of which was lost at Manchester when, due to a poorly designed fuel selector valve, lost all four engines when turning finals over Stockport. The crew managed to make a dead-stick forced landing in Hopes Carr but with some loss of life.
@garfieldsmith332
@garfieldsmith332 3 года назад
Thanks for a great history lesson. A nice way to see the progress of a line of aircraft from the beginning. Those plans still look great today; and I have always like those prop jobs. I flew on a turbo prop in 1966 (Air Canada) but do not remember the aircraft. Possibly a Canadian North Star (CD-4 variant) or a Vickers.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Appreciate the comment and if you flew in an Air Canada turboprop in 1966, depending on the route, it was either a Vickers Viscount or the larger Vanguard. Very cool!
@garfieldsmith332
@garfieldsmith332 3 года назад
@@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 NYC, so I figure the Viscount then.
@MrRandomcommentguy
@MrRandomcommentguy 2 года назад
If ever there was a generic airplane it was the DC-6, and I mean that as a compliment. This is what pops into my head when I hear "airplane"
@lightbox617
@lightbox617 3 года назад
I was a passenger on DC7 planes as a "non rev" between Chicago and Syracuse. I remember that it was loud and watching my coffee form concentric patterns on the surface as i sat on the plastic tray that pulled down in front of me.
@kojikanemoto5144
@kojikanemoto5144 Год назад
Mike, thank you again for yet another well documented trip down memory lane. As both parents are now gone, I will never know what plane we took from Tokyo to Los Angeles around 1957. Dad had left the US Army but chose to remain in Japan and worked as a civilian employee until he made the decision to return to the US. All I vaguely see in my clouded memory were the windows were at the right and above the wing as I could see the props. Was it pressurized? Who knows! I don't recall any curtains but I am leaning towards the aircraft being tied to the military as Dad certainly couldn't afford regular airline tickets. How I wish it were a Connie though - with all due respect to the Douglas airliners in yoiur presentation.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
Hi Koji, Sorry for this belated reply, and thanks for your neat story. You may just be in luck on having taken a Connie on that transpacific flight, as military families were flown on piston-powered MATS transports in the 1950s, and specifically Lockheed C-121 (military version of the Super-G) Constellations which had good transcontinental range with full loads before the jets came in the 1960s. For me, it was San Francisco-Honolulu-Tokyo on a Braniff Boeing 707 MAC charter flight in 1967. 'Hope you're doing well and best for the Holidays! Mike.
@stevenhoman2253
@stevenhoman2253 Год назад
From an engineering perspective, I have always been amazed that those monstrous radial engines, gave such range and speed, with just the fuel contained in the wings. It just does not appear plausible, that those slim wings held sufficient fuel for that to be achievable. Remarkable efficiency!
@henrychubbs2823
@henrychubbs2823 Год назад
Nice work. You brought up facts that I've never heard before-like the square windows story and planes where first class was in the rear. I would have added another sentence or two on the 7Cs (Seven Seas) word play since not everyone would figure that out. Please keep the videos coming.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
Many thanks!
@bobteter4300
@bobteter4300 3 года назад
Great video. Thanks
@carlmalone4011
@carlmalone4011 3 года назад
Excellent channel.
@robertk.5195
@robertk.5195 3 года назад
In 1963-64 I was an aircraft electrician stationed at Langley AFB in Virginia.The Indepenence had ended up a VIP for the brass at TAC. I got to work on this plane on several occasions.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Never knew that - thanks!
@soundsandrelaxing
@soundsandrelaxing 6 месяцев назад
Very good job...
@rickyjohnson4623
@rickyjohnson4623 Год назад
Excellent video
@ditto1958
@ditto1958 3 года назад
I saw lots of those Convairs from North Central Airlines in Green Bay
@cruzcontrol1504
@cruzcontrol1504 2 года назад
They all used to fly over my building in the Bronx, I could tell them apart by the engine sounds
@maxsmodels
@maxsmodels 3 года назад
another great one Mike
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Thanks Max - I think you'll enjoy all the jets coming in Part 3 next week!
@maxsmodels
@maxsmodels 3 года назад
@@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 I am sure I will
@henryjames5663
@henryjames5663 9 месяцев назад
I flew on a DC4 Manston UK to Naples 1964, the flight time was over six hours
@hertzair1186
@hertzair1186 2 года назад
3:26 that scene is often used as an intro to CRM (Crew Resource Management) training classes.
@12345fowler
@12345fowler Год назад
Douglas always build massive single slotted flaps with huge throw. Up and including the MD-11
@jjsifo1
@jjsifo1 3 года назад
Excellent!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Many thanks!
@Bernard-fo2qo
@Bernard-fo2qo 10 месяцев назад
I flew on a propeller airliner between Philadelphia and Chicago in the 1950s when I was about 5 years old. Our seats were behind the wing and engines, and I remember seeing the engines, but all I really remember is how extremely noisy it was, like sitting inside a food processor or a blender on high, or next to a rock grinding machine for several hours. How did people stand the unbelievable noise levels back then??
@erbman89b
@erbman89b 3 года назад
Another great presentation. I love these because this kind of information on airliners is not as readily available as for military aircraft. I couldn't help noticing in the picture of the DC-2 cockpit that the pilot and copilot yokes were about 180 degrees out of alignment. I'm guessing the airplane was not flight ready when that picture was taken.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Thanks, and yes, good catch on the DC-2 control yokes. Very possibly a production line photo taken on a tight deadline.
@Skeeterguy24
@Skeeterguy24 3 года назад
Thanks for the confirmation. I believe almost all US produced aircraft have synchronized controls. A feature that stayed in place until Airbus.
@kcouche
@kcouche 3 года назад
I flew that particular ATL-98!
@flymachine
@flymachine 9 месяцев назад
As a professional airline and corporate aircraft livery and interior designer I can tell you that window masking and dummy windowing is as old as commercial aviation itself, even some GA types came from factory with a dummy window in the scheme, to this day ion fact. The latest trend is to put a black mask over the forward/cockpit windows to look like one piece of unframed glass. The square window making is actually brilliant, the effect on pax confidence would have been significant over its operational life.
@tracylemme1375
@tracylemme1375 3 года назад
I flew in a military hop from Langley AFB to Nellis AFB. In 1967 it was a C118 or a DC6. I was confused when I first boarded, because all of to seats faced the tail.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 года назад
Yes, to this day all military transports have rear-facing passenger seats for safety - deceleration pushes you into the seat, not out of it. Thanks for the comment!
@rEdf196
@rEdf196 2 года назад
I saw a flying DC4 Carvair variant in Honolulu Hawaii in 1980.
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