Douglas Murray Gives His Thoughts on Privilege 

My white male privilege alarm clock goes off at 5:30am, 6 days a week. I'm also privileged enough that I'll have to work until I'm 68 before my pension kicks in.

Privilege was brought home to me some years ago seeing 2 (of the many military amputees from afghan) in hospital. Both were early 20s, both white, and Both had lost their legs. One was from a reasonably wealthy background with a messed up family life who joined up to get away from all that. The other was a poor bloke from a shitty estate in Middlesbrough who joined up to get away from the circle of shit he found there. Both came back from there in the state they did. The wealthy chap was surrounded by his bickering awful family who literally argued over his bed about how they would spend his compensation money. He despaired because he was going back to that life. The poor bloke was also surrounded by his family who were supportive and understanding however he also understood that he had lost his chance to get away from that life he knew in Middlesbrough. Which had the privilege there? Who can even measure it. The people that spout about privilege need to grow up.

Mr Murray is an island of logic and reason in an ocean of insanity.

A coworker was very jealous of me because of my looks. She is Caucasian and is very intelligent and had a very ideal upbringing but she isn’t very attractive and can’t control her weight. I’m Mexican and suffered from unbearable abuse in my childhood and had to struggle for every ounce of self-worth I have. I was envious of her. I felt her happiness was handed to her on a silver platter - she never had to fight for her sanity! Well one day she shared that her husband had an affair and now has twins with his mistress while I am happily married to an honest, dedicated man. How can we judge each other just by skin color when life is so complicating and difficult for EVERYONE.

People are so desperate to be a victim these days

"Might there be some type of people who pretend they have suffered more racism in their lives because they recognize to make that claim will advantage them?" *Jussie Smollett has entered the chatroom*

Shhhh everybody, be quiet - Douglas Murray is speaking.

Every time I listen to, or read Douglas Murray, I learn something or, at least, see another way to think about something. Thanks.

White guy here. I believe my real privilege comes from having two parents who taught me about personal responsibility and if you want a successful life you are going to have to work very hard and not go around blaming others for any of your misfortunes. I wish more black children could enjoy this privilege, this won't come from white SJWs it will only come from culture change from within the black community. I wish them the best!

This is my BEST Douglas Murray that I have ever watched!

If u look up privalge in the dictionary it says Prince Harry, if u look up hypocrite it says see privalge.

Brilliant and surgically precise. Douglas Murray never fails to find the kernel of the nut, and he explains it in the clearest way imaginable. I never miss an opportunity to listen to him.

"The Privilege Game" is exactly that. The game itself produces more hate and discontent than it will ever solve.

First off I don't care your color, if you are poor, you don't have thoughts of privilege or any privilege at all...That is FACT. If you breath you are privileged. If you get to eat be thankful and grateful...That is the poors life. Now I want you to tell Douglas when you see him, thank you. You are one of the Worlds Better Angels...YOu are who you say you are....I like you stamina...Douglas...Look after the children...They need us...make it your life's work please...You have what it takes. My opinion....but it is the Truth...Carolyn D Hogarth

Douglas Murray is a treasure to humanity, logic and truth.

Wise beyond his years. Enjoy listening to his opinion.

The whole clip is awesome, but the first 30 seconds is priceless! LOL!

Douglas, so glad I discovered you. You're insights on this are brilliant.

Douglas has been getting buff over corona. Respect.

There’s one main privilege and that’s your childhood. Were you raised to be a stable, confident, secure and independent person? Or did your parental influence make you susceptible to anxiety and depression? If you have depression and anxiety no amount of looks or money will compensate for that suffering,

Such a brilliant man is Murray.love what he has to say.

Douglas Murray is so clear in his expression, he makes one see his points. Which makes me think a little deeper. Thankyou for your lucidity.

Why isn’t this guy Prime Minister yet? It’s because he’s rational, intelligent and logical ...

Prince Harry attractive? Really? Honest? Wow

Privilege is what you make of it. It doesn’t happen by itself as it is the fruit of one’s choices and efforts.

Thank you Douglass Murray!

excellent

The Privilege Game is essentially unwinnable because no person can really know another’s pain in all its ramifications and permutations, just as none can know another’s joy or other emotions fully either. So then we are reduced to what can descend into a sort of silly or doctrinaire oneupmanship. In fact, we now see that this is what has happened, and is continuing to happen in increasingly alarming ways.

Awesomely response!!!

The other problem inherent to this Privilege Game is that even if one could theoretically depose people from their privileged places in society, one would either reduce everything to the lowest common denominator, or one would, perforce, create new classes of privileged people who had been under privileged before. They would, by definition, then become the privileged and would presumably have to be dethroned as well unless one simply wanted to set up a reverse hierarchy. The trouble then would be that people would grow dissatisfied with the new inequality within society. This gets back to one of the problems with egalitarianism brought up by Tocqueville: under revolutionary democracy, as in France, which he was surveying, the principles of liberty, equality, and fraternity, are not all of equal appeal. Humanity may love them all to some degree, but what they really hate is inequality. Demagogues see this and call for equality at all costs. This kills first liberty and then fraternity because it can only be achieved by the imposition of equality from on high by a relentless oversight of society by a busybody bureaucratic tyranny in which nobody can be free and resentment and suspicion are rife leading to the death of any fellow feeling. This then creates a situation where the vast majority are reduced to radical competing individuals fighting to make sure no one gets ahead or is even free to attempt to do so. This then leads to the control of the masses by a state which proclaims equality to be its highest goal in which all but the controlling elite are reduced to slavish adherence to the requirements of equalisation whatever they may be. History shows us time and again that this leads to monstrous regimes in which, to borrow an image, the boot of unrelenting tyranny is stamping on a human head forever. This is the outcome of the Privilege Game taken to its logical conclusion. It is a dead end which must be avoided at all costs for the sake of the wellbeing of humanity.

As an asian raised in North America, the first time I encountered racial discrimination was when I went back to Asia. I was prejudiced against by people who looked like me. He's right - it's an impossible game. Here's my perspective: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iTSA8HsEMzo.html

Identity politics and privilege are two sides of the same coin - it ensures there is no objective right and wrong because it depends on a calculation on each individuals identity score. The whole thing just makes life worse, creates needless victims and heaps poison onto nearly everyone's life.

God, even the tagline is stupid and tonedeaf. "How do I win at privilege?" The zero- sum game mentality is exactly the problem.

A beautiful mind tops the list. If only we could have a Douglas Murray at every bus stop to chat to.

"If you play the game of privilege dishonest actors will take advantage" Jessie Sommelet I'm a actor that must be me.

I'm fed up with all of this shit.

One of only two proudly conservative people in recent times able to make a coherent case for the right . The other being the late Roger Scrutton . Murray's "The madness of crowds" is a gourmet dish of a book on culture .

Douglas Murray is such a smart gentleman... I love him.

NPD worries me there’s so many people that have it. The condition is serious for society the traits are Victim mentality, covert liar, Mirroring, cheating, gaslighting, pathological untruths. The turn violent if opposed, they take no ownership of their issues, it’s always others fault. If many people have NPD which develops in early child hood due to trauma, the primary care giver didn’t give solid foundations and caring. This leads to corrupt unethical Society 🥺

Douglas Murray makes me wish I was Gay.

Brilliant

So much sense

Yeh that really got me thinking 🤔

In that game all the victories eventually taste like ash.

Why would anyone play the, ‘Heads I win, Tails you lose’ game?

The first School I went to I was in a class with a girl who eventually became a girlfriend of Prince Andrew and then became Lady Derby. My second school another alumni was Stalins Grandaughter then my final school I share with Jamie Oliver. How many privelidge points did I loose through this journey?

This started off topic so I thought as he talked about the privilege issue off of race and then in the last minute made the perfect association ! I thought he was rarely missing the whole point of “white “ privilege as a political tool. Excellent. Excellent way to make the point !

It isnt privilege. Its progress. Some families have more evolved structures than do others. The relationship between parents and children has an impact on how much the child's innate capabilities are expressed. Some parents have more issues when it comes to family dynamics. Those problems have a negative affect on the performance of their children which in turn has an effect on literacy and graduation rates, which in turn has an effect on employment opportunities. Which then leads to underachievement.

I think a lot of people are mistaking being handsome for being attractive.

imagine a game where playing was the only purpose and winning was not the goal

The only aspect I disagree with Douglas on is Harry's attractiveness, no no no!

This man is amazing! Thank God! Another like Jordan Peterson.

I have white male privilege to work my whole life to take care of my family, home, etc., However, I will never have the privilege of some who get every government program in America to be taken care of, get free services, like education, housing, food and medical, while sitting at home living on Welfare, and telling the world they are victims, and pulling the race card whenever they don't get what they want for doing nothing to earn it.

He has the guts to tell the truth.

I'd argue that playing this "evaluating the validity of Privilege" game is already a loss. It concedes that the concept has value, and turns the discussion to the details. Rather, let's attack the validity of ANY concept that confers a benefit on ANYONE for being LESS good at something. Let's think that through... The concept of Privilege is a penalty for success, and since everything is comparative, it is also a boost for failure. ...it grants advantage to failure... That's bad. In fact, that is as bad an idea as any that has ever existed. It is not hyperbole to say that it is an existential failure. If we confer benefits to failure, we produce more failure and less success, which does LITERALLY jeopardize out long term existence.

Is inequality not also a meaningless idea. Here in South Africa it is everything to the politician in a downward spiral that is going to end in the worst tragedy.

I have gay privilege. I get to see the world differently, love differently, admire people differently, just plain have a different experience and it can be an exciting journey. Why can’t that be a “privileged” status? Furthermore, out of spite, I tend to believe that gay who believe in gay marriage (but mostly the bullies on the Left) have more “privilege” than those with traditional views on marriage and sexual stewardship. 🤷‍♂️

Douglas, u remind me that it is all real bullshit.and thank god we have guys like u.

Hey, the world would be a better place if we can just get rid of those damn child labor laws!!!

"Legislation creates privilege." Greene

You know who has the privilege by what they can get away without any repacussions

A person's birthright is not the results of chance, it is the results of CAUSALITY not privilege. You exist as you are as a direct result of the countless choices your ancestors made, therefore you justly deserve your birthright. That being your innate talents, your personal achievements and your family inheritance. A poor person in another country could have been born here in the United States, had their parents moved here before they had a child. Take that back as many generations as you like. It still holds true. Recipients of affirmative are not entitled to the benefits they receive. The outcomes do not reflect the decisions made by their ancestors.

The first incredibly fraught problem with the discussion of "privilege" is that they are using this word, which carries all sorts of implications, namely that those things being called "privileges" are arbitrary and explicitly provided perquisites established by some institution (which could be anything from a government from to a private club). And that word, much like many of the words that the wokists twist to their ends, carries some moral implications, but also more crucially that everyone who is so "privileged" benefits from said "privilege". And that's just wrong at the start, because most of the things they are talking about (with the notable exception of wealth) are usually inherent and immutable characteristics that in some situations, historically, have statistically implied some kind of advantage. Most of the things also suffer from apex fallacy. Maybe the elites of some society have xyz characteristics, and are doing pretty well for themselves. Maybe the majority of people in that society have xyz. There are also some people in the society who are abc, who aren't doing so well. So statistically, you're more likely to be doing well if you're xyz than abc, but the situation on the ground could still be that the vast majority of xyz are just as bad off as abc, because these letters aren't the ruling feature. The ruling feature is usually wealth, just btw. This is a huge problem with this "privilege" model without even getting into particulars. When you get into particulars, the "privileges" are generally just various kinds of advantages, which are always going to be distributed unevenly and willy nilly through any society, because most of them are either biological (smarter, stronger, etc.) or situational (good parents, well connected) and aren't generally correlated with what the woke call "privilege".

Don't bring Diane Abbott into this!

It is a little funny that if privilege had a voice it would sound like Douglas Murray. Gotta love that posh accent.

the privilege game is designed to stigmatize success and encourage and excuse failure.

It’s sad that just because someone is rich or famous or beautiful that them losing a loved one is for some reason no longer sad because they have “privilege”. And don’t get me wrong they do have privilege but I put air quotes around it because I feel like they’ve changed what privilege means. Privilege means that you have advantages in things that others may not but that doesn’t make you any less of a person or make things any less sad.

Somewhere there's a book that gives us the roadmap to see and be happy with our own level of privilege or in spite of the lack thereof. It's celebrated and decoded regularly in many, increasingly under-visited, venues, all of which are open to every one of us. The stability of our very society depends on our thirst for its knowledge, passed down to successive generations. The insanity around us resides in the place beyond the tipping point, where the measure of that collective knowledge has shifted into negative territory. That book may be gathering dust on some shelf in your own abode.

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Lacking humility enough to accept that they can't win in the short term, they play a game of comparative grief, sacrificing their chances at succeeding later, in the long term. I didn't do that. I let others have their rightful glory while I scavenged in solitude for knowledge and advantage. Eventually, I earned privilege. I won't stand for people that can't accept humility because they won't stand for anything when they get privilege.

Privilege is the result of making good decisions for oneself or others making them on your behalf. Misery is earned the same way. It’s simply reaping what you sow

Not only do people not know how to prioritise different kinds of privilege from their own perspective, it changes from person to person, making it completely subjective too. Ironically, the same people who complain the most about hierarchy are the ones also attempting to build one, albeit a much, much poorer version.

That’s rich, the royals lecturing us on privilege.

People have advantages. It's different from privilege. Privilege is if you have an advantage in the eyes of the law.

Mr Murray, it's simple you look at how the sun reflects off the person's skin and that tells you how privileged they are. It's very scientific and relieves people without the ability to think but with big Twitter accounts from being found out.

white privilege seems to come from having a 2 parent home and being taught a good work ethic like " don't call in sick crawl in sick to work.

"Ordinary Language" philosophy analysis of the concept of "privilege" - good analysis too. I know what he would like to say though and that is any society has to have the "top dogs" running things but who are they going to be?

The DM just actually enter 2001 Space Odyssey

What I like to do is go into the hospital burn unit and talk to straight white males with 3rd degree burns and try to get them to acknowledge their cis straight white male privilege. That's preposterous of course since I, like 99,94% of the population, have non-burn victim privilege. But somehow that does not stop high income people from hectoring low income people about their privileges.

True it is hard to measure the quality of life by simple measures. I haven't a lot of money but feel I live a far richer life than many multi millionaires. But when talking economic wellbeing, there are haves and havenots.

Whether or not anything serves as a privilege depends almost entirely on the environment in which any particular trait finds itself. For instance, France during The Revolution was not a great environment in which to be a royal. Even Sam Walton died of Cancer.💯

I don't agree with DM on many levels and I feel he is much more right wing than I like, but he seems a sensible chap and I would happily enjoy a meal and a nice glass of wine with him. His views on privelege are quite understandable, and, I would say, even agreeable. 😎 If most right wing people were more like him, the world would probably be a slightly better place.

We do have the time when we are not writing books.

I wanted to be a dancer but I was disadvantaged by my pigon toes!

A lot of people have confidence privilege over me. I require them to stand back and hand me the things they had the confidence to do. I have single privilege... I'll let you fill in the rest 😋

The RU-vid advert for this was pure irony. It was to sponsor an animal to be slaughtered in sacrifice to Mohammad (apparently peace be upon him). What has become of the 21st century?

Isn't it odd that the people going on about the privilege of being male are often rich white attractive women themselves?

We're told some people are "under privileged",and some other people are "privileged",so what's the word for all of us in the middle,the majority of people who are just ok,getting by,not having much but enough,there is no word. Where I live I'm often in propinquity to Muslim ladies,at the bus stop,on the bus,in the shops. Now I'm the white lady so I'm the "privileged" one ok,so how come they all got top of the range mobile phones while I got a 20 year old simple black Nokia,but that's from my choice but I'm just saying. Anyway due to work needs I'm getting a smartphone soon so I'll be joining them. I held off as long as possible. I hate being sucked into The System. I spent most of my life keeping outside it. As an Unattractive Female I have an inbuilt tendency to think Beautiful People have it made,but I do know that's not true, but I always resent THEM having problems,how dare they,they should try being me for a bit! Harry is a GINGER! And he's the spitting image of his Dad,he looks nothing like the Prince of Wales. Lol,ha ha!

Since there is no objective truth, who is anyone else to judge another's oppression level? What you think is a relatively low level of oppression might be higher to the person experiencing it. You might consider Harry's privilege diminished by the death of his mother. But he might say that her death was more devastating than you thought. So the privilege of being born into royalty pales in comparison. That's his truth. You can't argue that a person's truth is invalid.

I have to admit I get shitty with people who moan about being broke when they have have enough to see them through the next year without any worries. People would slag me off for whinging about being broke when I have a roof over my head and an internet connection. So it goes right down the line. There's always someone worse off etc. i think it comes down to choice. If you choose to be a loser then you deserve nothing. So if you work hard do you then deserve good-things? I don't know. Does it really come down to whether you're a good person, and who gets to judge that? It's a right fucking mess. Just be decent, that way when you do get crushed by society at least you'll be justified in feeling good about yourself..

Thanks to DM and FP. Interesting. The Windsors and their spawn should really keep to their core business and try to stay as far out of the limelight as possible; it will not end well for them. The Rich are particularly assumed to be 'privileged', and yet what does that even mean. I don't dislike them because of it; the reaction is more along the lines of 'good for you', except in those cases where revelations show that they cheated their wealth out of less fortunate people, in which case it turn to anger. On the other side, who's to really know if those revelations are real or fake news published by their competitors? Irrespective of the source of their wealth, it leads me, at least, to take their advice on life with more than a grain of salt. If they have mental and health problems, then they can at least afford the best that money can buy and don't need our sympathy.

Shes so lucky shes a star but she cries cries cries in the lonely heart, thinking, is there something missing in her life? Then why do these tears come at night

True, if you're being earnest and honest about the privilege-calculus it is an impossible task, but they are not interested in that. Such calculus is only good to them insofar as it serves its function as a tool to redistribute power according to their aims. They need no complete reduction scheme, but only the parameters that achieve their aim. They will pick the parameters.

Can't believe a conversation on this subject at this time would not include at least one mention of Baroness Dido Harding. Doesn't seem to be much appreciation here of the realities and consequences of the workings of privilege.

Now there is an avalanche of ‘victim’ privilege.

Only the truly privileged have the time to consider if they are "privileged". The rest of us,know they are and that we aren't- until we examine what makes one truly "privileged". It's all relative.

how dare you deploy logic all willy nilly with no regard for emotional power and misdirection

Some people will always be better at stuff than others. They only way to have equality is to enforce it with an iron fist. And history shows equality means poverty and misery.

The sad part of it taking so long for me to talk and having so long a story that I couldnt finish it in our lifetimes or in 12000 years that if you dont start just taking my word for the truth than I will never have enough time to prove it to you because you cant live long enough to be as smart as I already am. I made my money legally the hard way and 67 trillion legally takes a long time for the average man to make. Because of my abilities I was able to do that much legally already in 40 years in conscience flesh.

Privilege whiners all sound the same to me: "Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!"