Dover & Out: The Team That Forgot How To Win 

remarkable that the manager says "there's the plus there it is". Imagine being bottom of the table with a -62 GD and still being able to find positives to motivate his group. Mindset 100/100.

Respect to the chairman to sticking to his promise that he made to the fans.

Super film, loved it. A horrific season - certainly the worst in my 38 years of supporting Dover Athletic. But Jim (the Chairman) was right. Football is about following your club, meeting your mates and enjoying yourself on the terrace. What league you happen to playing in at any one time is just detail. COYW!

My team when i was a kid was like this. Pinner town. We went 2 or 3 seasons without a win losing 99% of gamesWe drew a game 1-1 against a good team and half our team was in tears celbrating on the pitch at the end. The other team was like wtf lool

Covid 19 Dover 0. Thank you Jim for all you have done. At least the trees are growing back now Effiong can’t hit them anymore. Dover til I die

What the owner said was spot on. The clubs who tried to break away from the PL got a slap on the wrist but Dover got deducted points for making the best financial decision for them. Its completely unjust.

Schalke managed something similar going without a bundesliga win between January 2020 and January 2021, although we won in the cup against lower league competition twice. Currently on a streak of 37 1st division away games without a win, we're paying the price for years of terrible mismanagement

I turned this club around on FM so it has a very special place in my heart even as a northerner

This was more compelling viewing than the entire season of Welcome to Wrexham

It's insane how you're willing to create amazing documentaries time and time again and then willing to show them for free. Great Job!

My Physical Education Teacher in my secondary school was called Chris Kinnear, he was a manager at Dover Athletic Fc for a combined 15 years, I believe they let him go despite the club being in the National League and being 8th the previous season before he left, he also got the club so close to playing in League 2, so sad to see what’s happened

Respect to the manager for sticking with the team through the whole season.

From a Celtic fan this is PROPER football hats off gents 👏🏻🍀

Great documentary! Nice to see the inside story of this absolute crisis. Such a likeable manager too. All the best to Dover going forward!

We miss you Copa

I never thought I would be so invested in Dover Athletic. Great film as always COPA!

Amazing story. Not enough has been produced on the incredible rort that happened with money during COVID. There are some people in the game who at a minimum should be out of it, if not in prison for misappropriating funds. The people who just look out for themselves when times are tough are the ones who burn things to the ground rather than create legacies. Well done to everyone involved in this club. The tough times may last a year, or many year but you have to keep going. As they said early, you don't want to be a Bury and have that community lose a key pillar of the towns identity.

Andy is a top guy! Had the pleasure of playing under him a few years ago 💪 Huge respect to the club, we had done great memories there 🙌 DAFC!

I remember when I was a boy Dover were the team to beat in the old Beazer Homes League they came to Crawley Town's old town mean ground and blasted them 2-1 I remember them being so good. For a long time they were the best team but couldn't go on because their league was naff. Never forget that night I was so impressed they had a black guy up front who was levels above on a sand covered bog, my dad whispering to me to watch how he closes down and how alert he is. I use to love going to Crawley. In those days you could sneak in to the bar and see the players talking to fans. To those young eyes it seemed so bloody epic.

Love the way the manager handled the season. Never gave up on his boys.

27:45 I don’t know how good his tactics are, but you can tell, especially here after being sent off, that he knows how to lead a locker room and manage his players. Great coach from what I can tell.

Outstanding stuff. I'm Sutton, so that season was our first in the Football League - Sutton and Dover are very similar clubs, we spent most of the last 30 years playing each other, either in the Ryman, the Conference South or the Conference, and it could very easily have been the other way round.

This is why non-league football is the BEST! I'm American, but love English non=league football (my team is Weymouth), but it's amazing how these non league teams are able to survive with a payroll less than one Premier League player! But the players, fans, and communities get on, and there's a stronger community bond with these non league teams than with top tier teams. Funny comment by Dover's chairman about foreign owners not wanting to invest in a small club like Dover. I wish I had the money to invest in Weymouth. Non league football isn't about raking in tons of money - it's about the community! As for the Premier League - they have no problem sending young players to this level on loan for experience, but how about sending money to this level to improve the facilities?

Marvellous documentary. It's a sad story. The club has a lot of heart, but it was a sorry place to be when Southend visited. Dover put up a good fight, and that fight is well represented in this film. I hope they can enjoy better times moving forward.

Been waiting for a new vid for what felt like forever! LFG lads!

Fantastic documentary. Really shines a light on the situations of the lower level clubs

The Intro with that Song gave me Goosebumps and I dont even live in England and cannot relate to Dover

Luton fan here. Never give up. You have a really good set up and a ground that deserves better. The good times will return if you believe.

Great documentary. Gillingham fan here (and of Kent football), hope Dover can get back up to the Conference within a couple of years. I'm sure Hessy's a lot less stressed nowadays 😆

Hi good friends,and I cry in my heart after one of my favourite respective clubs ever Dover Athletic who are right now,currently playing in the National League South and in fifteenth position with forty three points would at times,would not get to win a football match but luckily so far this season as they have won eight out of their thirty matches and they need to win some more matches to finish at least in the top ten and start the next season all over again but in a positive note!!!COME ON DOVER ATHLETIC!!!🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️🏋‍♂️

Dover will always be my club. I have supported them more than 40 of my 78 years. We will be back up there to scare you teams looking at these comments. We are building a strong young team with new players to come. 2023 It will be our year. COYW. Thank you for this video..

This is brilliant. As a Hereford fan I'll keep an eye on their results from now on.

Can't believe Nicky Adams is still at it. Well played lad, a true Bury boy!

Amazing documentary. Top tier. Should be on BBC. More like this please. Fabulous. I'd like to see a Barnet one; one of the best yo-yo clubs in the conference and one about the lowest division in the country.

3:18 with the scarf went to 15 away games last season and saw the only away win of the season!

I'm dedicating this to my club. .Leeds United..The Team that forgot how to win.Great video.

grassroot football always has so many great stories to tell... kudos COPA90 for capturing this paricular story..

I remember the covid season when they couldn't fullfil their fixtures because they were on furlough and I thought "serves them right the other clubs are still playing" but watching this now and his view on being debt free my view has totally changed... Oh and btw I'm a Morecambe supporter you beat us in the first round in the F.A Cup a few seasons ago in better days. All the best for the future. ♥️

Thank goodness you lot uploaded.

My favorite FM english club from day 1. COYW

I know that feeling, I’ve made my own team last year April 16th, 2021. I named Excelsior United and recruited few players. The first season almost made it to playoffs in 8th place and suddenly went down to 15th place in the first season few wins and more losses. through the year my teammate is very talented not gonna lie, it just the chemistry that I need to improved. My team is still considering amateur not ready for semi-pro yet until we make it through more phases. It frustrate me a lot, and almost giving up as an owner but gotta remember how I started before and continues to grind. My team is going to be champions one day. In conclude, never give up. No matter how tough the year is.

like the chairman said the clue was with us, i live in dover so i support dover and Newcastle because some family were born there so yeah, i used to watch every home game from 2015 to 2019, i stopped because my dad died and he would take me , so i stopped watching 2020-2021 i watched a bit 2021-2022 nothing , but am going back to watch they next home match. Btw it seemed like my dad was the thing holding the club and town together as when he died in 2019 it all went down but before that we were playing really well with people like Rickey miller who was so good he got pushed into 3rd tier. rip

love hearing about clubs most people dont think twice of. just proves we all have our own stories

Wow. Those facilities have certainly been upgraded since my days at the club. Good watch. Sorry that the club had such a horrendous season! Good luck next year.

Big up dover, battled well at many places despite being relegated early, from a shaymen.

STILL the best!!! Thank you SOOO much for this content! You ARE football!

Despite not understanding them half the time, i lik this documentary..

At least dover athletic fc are still up n running never say die keep going lads

Great programme all the best to Dover for the future

Compare the "Fairy tale" of Wrexham to the reality of this. This film says so much more than anything "Welcome to Wrexham" could about real football.

“OH MY FUCKING GOD” best quote

Great club one of the only things to proud of being from Dover

Hess is well known mostly for taking Gillingham to the top 10 of Championship and playing in the sides that got to the play offs. His management is pretty no nonsense but his players just weren't performing. The points deduction didn't help but some of them looked like they have an ego and not fully putting their all into the team

Thing is with players who moan after the game is it’s very frustrating for the manager as the players have 90 minutes to hold on to a game so it must be the most annoying things hearing players moan after a loss. Also there’s a difference e between frustration and just moaning

Another club to follow, go on dover!!!

You should come do a derby days in Monterrey, Mexico. Two teams that are playing very well and with fans that are very passionate.

About time you lot uploaded on this channel again

Great club, I hope things work out for them.

Was a horrible season. Watched 4 away games and only missed 1 home game as I had to isolate before surgery

Great video & love the house tunes too!

Amazing documentary!!!!

Save Dover Athletic FC 🙏🙏

It was wrong what they did to Dover. The fair play rules were brought in because a couple of clubs went bust to gain an unfair advantage. Dover didn't do that the same as my club Wrexham didn't do that and it almost destroyed our club completely. Dover we're fantastic at Wrexham and very unlucky. Hopefully they can build again and come back stronger.

Dover's got over the hump, but Durham AFC is still very much in it

Loved it. Great to see 👍⚽️

Couldn't agree more in regards to how the money situation in English football is totally messed up. Being a Millwall fan which in comparison to Dover are doing far better in terms of finances but even in the Championship you have related clubs coming down with parachute payments who then almost always go straight back up and if not in season 1 they will be back up within 3 seasons. This cycle has been going on for over a decade now and we have clubs being brought, dodging FFP rules and dominating not because they have some magic football tactical skills but because they can buy the very best. Those clubs at the top should have a certain % of the incoming money going down to all clubs right down to the lower leagues.

Used to live in Dover, was a really good documentary & though not this season, will be back promoted to national league again

Great, well made video about grass roots football. Shame This film is not shown to the old boys club( The F.A.), so more of the money from the top league's can be shared out.

Fair play to Hessenthaler

As of Feb 2024 Dover are bottom of NL south, but have won 3 games this term.

Media producer here needs a pay rise. That was unreal!

Last season was shit. But we're still here. Better to be relegated and spend a few years rebuilding than going bust the same way Bury, Macclesfield and most likely Southend have. COYW!

Great story!

For a second I thought this was about Liverpool haha

To think just a few years ago they were knocking on the door of the EFL, being around about the play offs every season

On that "non winning" aspect, I recommend Copa90 and the whole world to look into Íbis here in Brazil. A very small club created and mantained by a family for 80 years or so, with a super small fanbase. Probably the only club in the World that is regional and has a massive engagement on their social media, because they decided to make joke out of their own losses and misfortune. And the misfortune of others in the process, they challenge everyone that loses a game they're really not supposed to or has a bad season. Chelsea was the most recent challenge. They are still the record holders of longest spell without a win, 3 years and 11 months between 1980 and 1984. Their mascot is called "Derrotinha" (the name means Small Defeat). Winning is something to be ashamed of over there, and when it happens, the social media blows up with calls for protests. That rule has exceptions however. They are from the metro area of Recife, the 2nd biggest city in the northeast region of Brazil. Recife itself has three clubs with a good amount of fans: Sport, Santa Cruz and Náutico. Santa Cruz right now is on a horrible, terrible spell. Let's say that they were in hell, climbed up to heaven and went straight back (as in from the 4th national division to the first and back to the 4th, in a decade). As is the rule in many brazilian clubs, the board is composed by a ton of bloodsuckers. Íbis defeated them in the state championship this year. It was the first time ever their fanbase were escorted out of a stadium by the cops.

I've always thought Hessenthaler was a top bloke! Southend United fan.

George is such an impact player, Chelsea will be knocking at the door for him soon mark my words 🤣

That George is abit delusional mind 😂

Could we please get a story on the state of Southend United at the moment? A historical club on the verge of extinction.

Great watch this

Great Film this is 10/10😂

You should make a video about CR Flamengo! The greatest club in all of football!🔴⚫️

Instead of singing I'm Dover til I die They should of sung I'm Dover til they die 🤣

Just found this. As Andy would say F'ing killer . Copa90 thank you so much. Real Footy story.

L.A. Galaxy: Hold my BudLight!

Loved this.

Brilliant. Really interesting

It’s funny how Jim Parmenter doesn’t talk about the fact that Dover were one of the clubs that heavily benefited from the funding during Covid whilst some other clubs who had 5 times the average attendance compared to Dover barely received anything. As good as the documentary is, it really doesn’t give us all the facts about the impact Parmenter (who was on the board for the National League) and other members of the board had on the grants distributions. Their actions actually put a lot of clubs at risk of going out of business when the emergency funding was distributed. This is meant to make people feel sorry for Parmenter but if you know all and ins and outs, you’d change your mind very quickly.

As a dover fan jim doesnt care for the community he cares for profit. He has on number of times he blames fans

As someone who lives in Eastleigh, you’re welcome

"its a poor town" Wrexham ain't exactly Monte Carlo

LTFC supporter here, to myself and many others, the FA will never be anything more than the highest exemplier of ineptitude and corruption. Dover as a club has nothing but the greatest of my sympathies.

Good luck from a Rotherham fan

Chilean national team: FINALLY A WORTHY OPONENT!

seems fitting the club is struggling financially when the chairman and manager are wearing rolex’s and driving bentleys 🤦‍♂️

Come to cyprus for omonoia 1948 again.Now they renamed to omonoia 29 of may and they are 5 games away from the promotion to the 1st divison.

Legends say, that their win is still waitng in traffic.

All the respect to the chairman, i do know from my father how's to invest money in a club and lose everything! hopefully hes not ending like my father in debt.

Very charming video